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turbonium
Kay Griggs was the wife of Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs. What she has to say will likely rattle any notion of what you thought the US military heirarchy was, and how it is structured to systematically weaken and destroy the US from within.

From this link...Kay Griggs
Colonel Griggs was a Marine Corps Chief of Staff, as well as head of NATO's Psychological Operations. He was also, his wife realized, entirely mind-controlled. Kay, a self-declared Christian, became privy to the real workings of the United States military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins.

These interviews with Pastor Rick Strawcutter of Adrian, Michigan were conducted in 1998, before September 11th
and the installation of U.S. President George W. Bush.
Kay Griggs' report of world events and the power elite paints a picture that begins to explain the hows and whys of our current global scenario.

Kay Griggs quotes....

"They took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany and brought them
over to the United States."
"They get rid of the good guys. The Marine Corps are the assassins for the Mob. The military is run by the Mob. The military IS the Mob."
"He told me what they did. They nurture--they cultivate--the sons of prominent families. They're called "rising stars." They rope them in. Then they "turn" them."


Flash video (8 min.) link Griggs Talks
Part 1 of Interview....Part 1 Griggs
Part 2 of Interview...Part 2 Griggs
scoobysnack
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turbonium
Anybody watched the clips yet? Any thoughts?
bacca
A wife? a self pro-claimed christian? come on! why would anyone believe her....Wives aren't given that type of information. Who is to say that she is telling that truth? maybe she's just upset about something that was done or said and this is her on personal revenge, or maybe she's just insane and thinks that making insane comments is funny?

No I haven't seen the attachments, i have no need to...It's a wife that in itself knocks her out of a credible category to me...sorry, just my opinion grin2.gif
Redneck
"Self-proclaimed Christian" and "southern divorcee," huh?

Wow, those are some mighty impressive credentials there. I'd trust her opinion about the inner workings of the U.S. government any day.
scoobysnack
WOW, Redneck and Bacca are the smartest ones here. There so smart they know everything before looking at any evidence. They just assume it can't be true, because they are so smart they would have heard of this by now. You know what they say when you assume? You make an "ass" out of "u-m-e". She is talking about things not only did she personally learned but also from finding and reading her husband's secret diary.

Watch the video! You may learn you arn't as smart as you think you were. Everyone starts out a skeptic at first. I did.
Redneck
Smartest one here? No.

Smart enough not to believe every crackpot with a web site and a digital camera? Yes.
joc
Good Grief.....and you believe that drivvel? It really doesn't say much for your intellect....you should at least be as smart as Redneck tongue.gif
scoobysnack
You know about this subject as much as a tribesman in Africa knows about this subject.

Out of site, out of mind!

Are you waiting for Peter Jennings to let you know about subjects like this? If you don't believe her, even though you didn't take the time to watch it, would you believe a very similar story to the article I posted above that was going to be aired on the discovery channel? It was pulled by government officials who would be exposed.

"Conspiracy of Silence" by Britain's Yorkshire TV -scheduled for the Discover Channel on May 3, 1994 but cancelled and never publicly aired until now on the web, includes much of the Franklin Committee's video interviews with the child victims."

Larry King --then the rising Black star of the Republican Party, singing the national anthem at the 1984 and 1988 Republican Conventions, later in prison for embezzling $40 million-- was also luring children from nearby Boy's Town and the streets of Omaha into forced prostitution. The clients were prominent politicians, media and industrial magnates around the country -including King, the Omaha Chief of Police, the owner of Nebraska's largest newspaper, the Omaha Herald, and, according to several children, then-Vice-President George Bush the Father. Videos of the "parties" were used for blackmail, which may corrupt our government to this day. Kids were tortured, threatened, and in at least once case, murdered, to keep them in line.



Watch it and learn what you are not supposed to know!

http://www.vote.org/silence/
or
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1579613.php
or
http://www.rense.com/general61/appallingconspiracyof.htm

Once you know what has been deliberetly hidden from the masses, maybe they you will be ready to listen to Kay Griggs tell her story. It is your duty to inform yourself. Don't wait for the mainstream media to tell you every important thing you need to know. There job is to tell you what you need to know to be a productive citizen.
turbonium
I asked if anyone saw the videos and any thoughts on them. So all I get are minds made up after NOT watching the videos! thumbsup.gif
On many news stories, you'll see protestors with pickets marching in front of a movie theater playing a controversial movie, and they almost all say they haven't even seen the film, but "Dammit, I KNOW what it's about, and it's a bunch of lies and trash"! laugh.gif !
Neo2005
I don;t see why this is such a shock.
It's pretty obvious that this is happening.
turbonium
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Jun 27 2005, 10:09 PM)
I don;t see why this is such a shock.
It's pretty obvious that this is happening.
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There are some people who aren't even going to watch the videos because they already know they aren't true!! They must have some sort of special inside knowledge to state that !!
gazerbeams
Somehow, I doubt anyone will be shocked by this. After all, this isn't the first time someone has claimed to have insider info stating that the military/government/illuminati/reverse-vampires/whatever are trying to destroy America.

What all this lacks is a sufficient explanation as to WHY they'd want to destroy themselves. The military wishes to weaken itself? With what purpose, exactly? Just because they can?

Are we really to believe that there's a group of people out there who have nothing better to do than cause chaos and destruction for no purpose other than their own sick satisfaction?
Dr_Strangelove
Right now I'm sitting in a very nice room at the Hampton Inn in downtown Bremerton Washington; about a mile from the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. Today I had lunch with some of these 'Servants of Evil'. Tomorrow I will have lunch with them again and discuss how we can better facilitate their worldwide operations. I'll bring this discussion of mind-control up with them.

Their feedback might be interesting.
turbonium
QUOTE(Dr_Strangelove @ Jun 27 2005, 11:33 PM)
Right now I'm sitting in a very nice room at the Hampton Inn in downtown Bremerton Washington; about a mile from the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. Today I had lunch with some of these 'Servants of Evil'. Tomorrow I will have lunch with them again and discuss how we can better facilitate their worldwide operations. I'll bring this discussion of mind-control up with them.

Their feedback might be interesting.
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Are they higher up brass? Mention some names Kay Griggs talks about and see what they say! (Hmmm...methinks they'll deny it or have not heard of it) Anyhoo, fill us in afterwards. Yes, it could be interesting to hear what they say!! thumbsup.gif
turbonium
QUOTE(gazerbeams @ Jun 27 2005, 10:57 PM)
Somehow, I doubt anyone will be shocked by this.  After all, this isn't the first time someone has claimed to have insider info stating that the military/government/illuminati/reverse-vampires/whatever are trying to destroy America.

What all this lacks is a sufficient explanation as to WHY they'd want to destroy themselves.  The military wishes to weaken itself?  With what purpose, exactly?  Just because they can?

Are we really to believe that there's a group of people out there who have nothing better to do than cause chaos and destruction for no purpose other than their own sick satisfaction?
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Have you not watched the videos? There are reasons given behind why this is going on - Kay Griggs was only nervous the one time she mentions who and what is ultimately behind it all. Check it out.......
turbonium
I found a link to download the full interview in 8 segments here.....Kay Griggs
joc
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There are some people who aren't even going to watch the videos because they already know they aren't true!! They must have some sort of special inside knowledge to state that !!


Yes, I have not nor will I watch your stupid videos........I do know they aren't true......the 'special' knowledge I have goes by several different names...among them:

Wisdom

Discernment

Common Sense

Also if you will take time to read the rules of the forum you will find that 'bumping' your topic is frowned upon by the moderation team as well as by most everyone else...

....now run along and sniff out some more 'conspiracies' for us.....we are all ignorant of the 'truth' under our very noses....what would we do without you? wacko.gif
Purplos
I haven't watched the videos either because I'm on a sucky dial up.

I just wanted to mention that I find it strange that people have to come up with crazy reasons why America is going down the tubes. The apathy of the people and the greed of the governement is flushing us quite nicely.

Redneck
See, you both assumed that I didn't listen to that crap. One raving lunatic sitting in front of a camera expounding on her bizarre accusations and vast conspiracies does not count as evidence of anything.

The only thing I want to know is this: what screen name does she post under here on UM?
turbonium
QUOTE(joc @ Jun 28 2005, 01:26 AM)
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There are some people who aren't even going to watch the videos because they already know they aren't true!! They must have some sort of special inside knowledge to state that !!


Yes, I have not nor will I watch your stupid videos........I do know they aren't true......the 'special' knowledge I have goes by several different names...among them:

Wisdom

Discernment

Common Sense

Also if you will take time to read the rules of the forum you will find that 'bumping' your topic is frowned upon by the moderation team as well as by most everyone else...

....now run along and sniff out some more 'conspiracies' for us.....we are all ignorant of the 'truth' under our very noses....what would we do without you? wacko.gif
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Posting messages with irrelevant content for the sole purpose of keeping certain posts near the top is called "bumping".
So why is it YOU are "bumping" this topic? I've added replies and links, you've added squat to this topic for discussion! Actually, you do lots of "bumping" in the Conspiracies Section! You do us the disservice of not sharing your profound wisdom and wealth of knowledge on these subjects. How about at least something like "Watch not thou slanderous and salacious multimedia! For I know the Truth, and I speaketh only the Truth, for I am All-Knowing, even without being All-Seeing!" laugh.gif
dmgspycat
QUOTE(Redneck @ Jun 27 2005, 08:27 PM)
"Self-proclaimed Christian" and "southern divorcee," huh?

Wow, those are some mighty impressive credentials there. I'd trust her opinion about the inner workings of the U.S. government any day.
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I understand your cynicism...out of all the whistleblowers to come out lately, she seems to know a little too much about things that don't concern your average household wife. On the other hand, is her husband not military? Is this who told her of these things?

While it wouldn't hold up in court, it is still fascinating nevertheless. The thing here is that its not surprising that the mafia and the military have a conection. That has been covered historicly. I haven't seen the tapes yet either but want to . I try not to throw anything aside when it comes to information...why limit your sources ? You can always disagree after giving it a chance.



turbonium
She does have his diary - and that could be admissible evidence in a court case depending on if it details specific criminal activities. But it would be very difficult to get any convictions based solely on that. There would need to be corroborating witnesses, and the chances of that are likely zip.

dmgspycat
QUOTE(turbonium @ Jun 29 2005, 02:31 AM)
She does have his diary - and that could be admissible evidence in a court case depending on if it details specific criminal activities. But it would be very difficult to get any convictions based solely on that. There would need to be corroborating witnesses, and the chances of that are likely zip.
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If the totaly credible issues don't get any airtime, then I'm sure this womans diary will get none either. Ill check it out when I get to my freinds house ...I have dial-up and they have high speed DSL.
scorpio1024
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QUOTE(turbonium @ Jun 25 2005, 07:55 PM)
Kay Griggs was the wife of Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs. What she has to say will likely rattle any notion of what you thought the US military heirarchy was, and how it is structured to systematically weaken and destroy the US from within.

From this link...Kay Griggs
Colonel Griggs was a Marine Corps Chief of Staff, as well as head of NATO's Psychological Operations.  He was also, his wife realized, entirely mind-controlled.  Kay, a self-declared Christian, became privy to the real workings of the United States military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins.

These interviews with Pastor Rick Strawcutter of Adrian, Michigan were conducted in 1998, before September 11th
and the installation of U.S. President George W. Bush.
Kay Griggs' report of world events and the power elite paints a picture that begins to explain the hows and whys of our current global scenario.

Kay Griggs quotes....

"They took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany and brought them
over to the United States."
"They get rid of the good guys. The Marine Corps are the assassins for the Mob. The military is run by the Mob. The military IS the Mob." 
"He told me what they did. They nurture--they cultivate--the sons of prominent families. They're called "rising stars." They rope them in. Then they "turn" them."
 

Flash video (8 min.) link Griggs Talks
Part 1 of Interview....Part 1 Griggs
Part 2 of Interview...Part 2 Griggs
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