As many of you may know that most American Presidents were also Freemasons. Yes, Freemasonry is the largest secret seciety in the world, but that doesn't realy mean anything because some of them also belonged to others as well. It is known that the top degrees worship Lucifer and alike dieties. Now It's a far cry to say that its just by chance that most presidential candidates have belonged to the same club. This leads me to believe thatmost elections have been fixed. Democracy is just another word for dictatorship.
Plz post any links with information you submit. Plz no one liners and pointless comments.*cough*pawadanone*cough*
This is one of the links I found in my research.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...entasmasons.htm
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I voted no but theres still somethin fishy goin on!
Maybe these people in power who are in the Masons are only footsoldiers for a much more sinister plan.
They might not have a clue about the secrets involved in the Masons and would rather get involved with the other secret clubs they have joined,yep!,The baby eating,Molech worshipping,bizzarre sex clubs,Yippee!!!!
The Freemasons are quite a noble secret society so it probably sounds good on there C.V too,better than Skull and Bones anyway.
I think these men in power are kindof forced by birthright into alot clubs as part of the "big plan",but who knows what the point of it all is? It cant just all be about strange handshakes,knees and building stuff!
Maybe these people in power who are in the Masons are only footsoldiers for a much more sinister plan.
They might not have a clue about the secrets involved in the Masons and would rather get involved with the other secret clubs they have joined,yep!,The baby eating,Molech worshipping,bizzarre sex clubs,Yippee!!!!
The Freemasons are quite a noble secret society so it probably sounds good on there C.V too,better than Skull and Bones anyway.
I think these men in power are kindof forced by birthright into alot clubs as part of the "big plan",but who knows what the point of it all is? It cant just all be about strange handshakes,knees and building stuff!
How about? No. This is nonsense. That should have been a choice for the poll.
just as a clarification--it is my opinion that they do not worship lucifer at all--christianity corrupted the definiton of this name--the name lucifer originates from the star venus which would announce the arrival of the true lucifer--the "sun" --imo the sun represents "life", love and truth--the focus of freemasons and other "secret" societies is just that ..."occult" or secrecy itself --what are they hiding? the fact that they worship something "other" than life .... "death"--they use it as a tool and lust after its power-- i think its important to clarify that they do not revere the "light bearer" and in fact purposely corrupt its image instead--at the heart of freemasons and anything occult is the worship of death and it is this fact which they seek to hide--heres a good article on the history of sun worship and its corruption
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The Judaic-Christian Bible tells a wonderful story.
is, in fact, often referred to as "The Greatest Story Ever Told".
And so it is! You are now about to find out why!
In the New Testament of Christian Bible, a provocative and most serious challenge is laid on the whole of Christianity. Since it bears directly on our subject, we will quote it: "...if Christ be not risen, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is also in vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God ..
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." (I Cor 15:14, 15, & 17)
In the New Testament there is a warning given to all who would build a house. Namely, before you lay the foundation, find out what the foundation itself will rest on - solid rock, or sand? The reason is obvious...
or said another way; "You need to stand under the foundation to get a true under-standing!"
THE FOUNDATIONS
Let's closely examine the original, conceptual foundations of the faith, and then decide "...if Christ be not risen. " But in order to do that, we must go back, not 2.000 years to the birth of Christ, but 8 to 10,000 years to the birth of modern man. For when one seeks to establish foundations, one must begin at the beginning.
Many thousands of years ago in what we refer to as the the "primordial world" of the ancients, human life was a far different experience to that which we enjoy today. While it is true that we have less documentation on that prehistoric world than we have on our own age, ample enough is known from the ancient writings to paint a rather clear picture of our primitive ancestry. If we have learned anything at all, it is this: The more we change, the more we stav the same. And nowhere is this more clearly demonstrated than in the history of man's quest for "God", and the ancient religion we still keep holy today.
According to the best understanding we have gleaned from the available records, life for our ancient forefathers was a mixture of wonder and fear. Each day, just finding food for one's family without becoming a meal yourself for the roaming predatory animals, was a life and death struggle. (If you have ever ventured out on a cold night with insufficient clothing, and without friend or family near, you could quickly see how fearful the dark, cold primordial nights could be) And then came winter!
It was from these meager, distressful conditions of the human race that our long history of the search for God and meaning has come. Any evolution, at it's most accelerated rate, is always agonisingly slow. But from the beginning, man's' profound questions demanded answers. When no clear answers were forthcoming from the universe, man turned inward, and developed his own. Keep in mind that all the theological teachings of the Western World were developed in the Northern Hemisphere. The study of this subject is properly called
- "Astro-Theology" or, "The Worship of the Heavens".
ASTRO-THEOLOGY
This is the first, original, and therefore the oldest, and most respected story on Earth! It did not take ancient man very long to decide that in this world the single greatest enemy to be feared was the darkness of night, and all the unknown dangers that came with it. Simply stated, man's first enemy was darkness.
Understanding this one fact alone, people can readily see why the greatest and most trustworthy friend the human race could ever have was by far, heaven's greatest gift to the world ... that Glorious Rising Orb of Day ...
the SUN
With this simple truth understood, we can now begin to unravel an ancient and wonderful story.
Today, as in all mankinds' history, it has once again been told anew.
Modern-day Christianity has often belittled our ancient ancestors who are not here to defend themselves.
They falsely accuse that they were nothing more than ignorant worshippers of the sun. Therefore we can, with assurance, summarily dismiss thousands of years of human spirituality as ignominious myth, believed by well-meaning, but gullible primitives. Too much of this kind of spiritual arrogance and religious pride has continued without challenge. The time has come to set matters straight.
THE CHALLENGE
First. no people of the ancient world believed the "Sun" to be "God". That belongs in the "disinformation file".
In point of fact, every Ancient culture and nation on Earth have all used the Sun as the most logically appropriate symbol to represent the Glory of the unseen Creator of the heavens. Here it is important to remember two points.
First, with the exception of Japan, the ancient world mythologies always understood the Sun to be masculine in qualities, and the moon feminine. Second, the English language is derived from the German. In the Germanic, the word 'Sun' is spelled 'Sonne'. The two words can (and have been) used interchangeably.
Old Testament:
"The heavens are declaring the Glory of God." (PS.19: 1)
New Testament:
"Jesus is the Glory of God." (2 Cor 4:6)
Old Testament:
"The SUN of Righteousness will arise with healings in His wings." (Mal 4:2)
New Testament:
"God's Son/Sun...he is risen!" (Matt 4:16)
Saying. "How, often I wanted to gather you under my wing. "
http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/astromain1a.html
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*******************************************
The Judaic-Christian Bible tells a wonderful story.
is, in fact, often referred to as "The Greatest Story Ever Told".
And so it is! You are now about to find out why!
In the New Testament of Christian Bible, a provocative and most serious challenge is laid on the whole of Christianity. Since it bears directly on our subject, we will quote it: "...if Christ be not risen, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is also in vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God ..
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." (I Cor 15:14, 15, & 17)
In the New Testament there is a warning given to all who would build a house. Namely, before you lay the foundation, find out what the foundation itself will rest on - solid rock, or sand? The reason is obvious...
or said another way; "You need to stand under the foundation to get a true under-standing!"
THE FOUNDATIONS
Let's closely examine the original, conceptual foundations of the faith, and then decide "...if Christ be not risen. " But in order to do that, we must go back, not 2.000 years to the birth of Christ, but 8 to 10,000 years to the birth of modern man. For when one seeks to establish foundations, one must begin at the beginning.
Many thousands of years ago in what we refer to as the the "primordial world" of the ancients, human life was a far different experience to that which we enjoy today. While it is true that we have less documentation on that prehistoric world than we have on our own age, ample enough is known from the ancient writings to paint a rather clear picture of our primitive ancestry. If we have learned anything at all, it is this: The more we change, the more we stav the same. And nowhere is this more clearly demonstrated than in the history of man's quest for "God", and the ancient religion we still keep holy today.
According to the best understanding we have gleaned from the available records, life for our ancient forefathers was a mixture of wonder and fear. Each day, just finding food for one's family without becoming a meal yourself for the roaming predatory animals, was a life and death struggle. (If you have ever ventured out on a cold night with insufficient clothing, and without friend or family near, you could quickly see how fearful the dark, cold primordial nights could be) And then came winter!
It was from these meager, distressful conditions of the human race that our long history of the search for God and meaning has come. Any evolution, at it's most accelerated rate, is always agonisingly slow. But from the beginning, man's' profound questions demanded answers. When no clear answers were forthcoming from the universe, man turned inward, and developed his own. Keep in mind that all the theological teachings of the Western World were developed in the Northern Hemisphere. The study of this subject is properly called
- "Astro-Theology" or, "The Worship of the Heavens".
ASTRO-THEOLOGY
This is the first, original, and therefore the oldest, and most respected story on Earth! It did not take ancient man very long to decide that in this world the single greatest enemy to be feared was the darkness of night, and all the unknown dangers that came with it. Simply stated, man's first enemy was darkness.
Understanding this one fact alone, people can readily see why the greatest and most trustworthy friend the human race could ever have was by far, heaven's greatest gift to the world ... that Glorious Rising Orb of Day ...
the SUN
With this simple truth understood, we can now begin to unravel an ancient and wonderful story.
Today, as in all mankinds' history, it has once again been told anew.
Modern-day Christianity has often belittled our ancient ancestors who are not here to defend themselves.
They falsely accuse that they were nothing more than ignorant worshippers of the sun. Therefore we can, with assurance, summarily dismiss thousands of years of human spirituality as ignominious myth, believed by well-meaning, but gullible primitives. Too much of this kind of spiritual arrogance and religious pride has continued without challenge. The time has come to set matters straight.
THE CHALLENGE
First. no people of the ancient world believed the "Sun" to be "God". That belongs in the "disinformation file".
In point of fact, every Ancient culture and nation on Earth have all used the Sun as the most logically appropriate symbol to represent the Glory of the unseen Creator of the heavens. Here it is important to remember two points.
First, with the exception of Japan, the ancient world mythologies always understood the Sun to be masculine in qualities, and the moon feminine. Second, the English language is derived from the German. In the Germanic, the word 'Sun' is spelled 'Sonne'. The two words can (and have been) used interchangeably.
Old Testament:
"The heavens are declaring the Glory of God." (PS.19: 1)
New Testament:
"Jesus is the Glory of God." (2 Cor 4:6)
Old Testament:
"The SUN of Righteousness will arise with healings in His wings." (Mal 4:2)
New Testament:
"God's Son/Sun...he is risen!" (Matt 4:16)
Saying. "How, often I wanted to gather you under my wing. "
http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/astromain1a.html
| Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | Page 4 | Page 5 |
In my personal opinion, whenever someone doesn't understand something (with things like this) they automatically worship Lucifer. 
so to answer your question, I will agree with eric and say no, this is nonsense.
so to answer your question, I will agree with eric and say no, this is nonsense.
Question - is it by chance?
Shouldn't the third option be "No. (it is not by chance) Something fishy is going on"
Shouldn't the third option be "No. (it is not by chance) Something fishy is going on"
Methinks you had better check your facts again... try starting with this page: this page and see how many actual Presidential Freemasons equals "most"... you are doomed to be disappointed.
I would also propose that ALL presidents have been breastfed. How does this get made into a conspiracy theory??
I would also propose that ALL presidents have been breastfed. How does this get made into a conspiracy theory??
how many presidents were masons?i know the last one was bush sr!
Openmind, do you read previous posts? My link will answer that, and put the Bush Sr. = Freemason Urban Legend to rest. There have only been 14.33 Presidential Freemasons - and the extra third is because Lyndon B. Johnson went through the 1st degree before landing in Congress and finding that his full time job would take up too much time.
I voted Yes w/the fishy thing, but it's not really fishy. Anyone who would be President needs political and financial support and the Masonic Organization provides the connections to that necessity. I was told by a Freemason that no one can become president without their approval and that JFK was an honorary member.
I hate to use the word "free" with the term "mason" as that is a contradiction in terms. To be a Mason is to surrender to a mob mentality.
I hate to use the word "free" with the term "mason" as that is a contradiction in terms. To be a Mason is to surrender to a mob mentality.
You've got to be kidding, right?
I can NOT believe that a guy intiated into the Brotherhood would say such a thing. It is my opinion that the guy you spoke to was NOT a Freemason, but a poser/liar that handed you a line. Evidently you bit the bait. Presidents have to have Masonic PERMISSION?!?! Then how the heck did Clinton ever get in?? You were fed a line, by friend.
And you might want to check the terminology and origins of the term "Freemason" - you will find that it doesn't have the connotation you give it.
I can NOT believe that a guy intiated into the Brotherhood would say such a thing. It is my opinion that the guy you spoke to was NOT a Freemason, but a poser/liar that handed you a line. Evidently you bit the bait. Presidents have to have Masonic PERMISSION?!?! Then how the heck did Clinton ever get in?? You were fed a line, by friend.
And you might want to check the terminology and origins of the term "Freemason" - you will find that it doesn't have the connotation you give it.
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