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Cebrakon
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 30 2005, 03:55 PM)
No, I was including races of anything.  Advanced societies need certain things:  resources, stable food supplies, sources of energy.  There just aren't that many of them at the ocean depths.  Everything we have seen indicates they are pretty much deserts.
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rofl.gif The deep oceans support colonies of hagfish. These lovely creatures look a bit like snakes with a big mouth full of teeth. They live on the occasional whale or shark that makes it all the way to the bottom. Of course, they are lacking a few of the things we expect from advanced societies, such as opposable thumbs, speech, culture, large brains etc etc.. laugh.gif

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bacca
why does it have to be a human type species? what about dolphins they are very intelligent
Raptor
QUOTE(FreyKade @ Jul 1 2005, 01:18 AM)
an underwater civilisation is not a far fetched idea. just because we use certain resources, doesnt mean that a civilisation living in water would need to. different enviroment > different needs > different inventions. so maybe sea civilisations exist, they just arent  advanced enough to make contact abouve water
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Thank you! Couldnt have said it better thumbsup.gif
openmind1963
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jul 1 2005, 12:36 AM)
So, how advanced is advanced?
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they are more advanced than the advanced race that advanced is past the current advanced race.get it? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif in other words,they actually understand
eminem's lyrics! devil.gif
aquatus1
Again, if one wishes to argue about 'advanced' having something other than the traditional societal and intelligence based meaning, then you should define it.

If you do not consider this advanced, then what would you consider an advanced race?
JohnnyBoyC
I am not sure about NOW but in about 1.5-2 million years. scientists predicts cephallopods to become highly intelligent. (Maybe even comparable to Homo Erectus!)
(A cephallopod is an octopus or squid type creature if you didnt know)
JohnnyBoyC
for somthing to be considered civilized and therefor highly intelligent the species MUST HAVE

Some form of government or Hierarchy.
Designated Labor
Science, Arts and simple math (just numbers or counting)
A form of speech. Not just any communication. Speech or a language.
Some form of military or designated fighters.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TAUGHT IN SCHOOL 3 WEEKS AGO. If you think Im wrong. Blame school. We were trying to see if Sumerians were able to be consididered civilized even though they were so ancient.
Hirotho
Maybe they are that advanced? I personally think that if thre is some advanced species down there, they'd have societies similar to our cavemen-prehistoric period.
aquatus1
Goes back to resources. There just aren't a whole lot of them down there. Without resources, whatever is down there has to live a very basic existence.
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 1 2005, 08:02 AM)
thumbsup.gif Human's aren't parasites
we're predators
theres a difference you know. thumbsup.gif
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I'd think Mother Nature would differ on that point. yes.gif
aquatus1
You think? Parasites use an animal till it's dead, then move on to another. Humans either breed animals or raise crops.

Like I said, as nice as it is to claim humans are the worst scourge Earth has ever seen, we just aren't that significant in the big scheme of things.
leadbelly
Resources are abundant in the deep. Plenty of cold water and high pressure, for those aqua people! On the other hand, if you like a bit of warmth down around 2 to 2.5 km, those resources are to be found along tectonic plates. Hydrothermal vents support some creatures who advance the idea that life is a gas when temperatures are a comfortable 680 degrees F, or 380 degrees C.

Some think the idea of such a life was way ahead of its time, when it began around 3.5 billion years ago. While some life may have begun in tidepools, it was also happening on the ocean floor. One of the first steps for life is conversion of nitrogen to ammonia. Nitrogen is needed for amino acids and nucleic acids. But, N2 (the common form), is relatively inert. Ammonia ( NH3) can work, though. Iron-bearing minerals (iron oxide, for example) are good catalysts.

With lots of asteroids striking the earth, temperatures may have risen enough to destroy ammonia for a time (>800 C). If life proceeded under the ocean, it would have been a source of renewed biological growth. I'm not certain, but I presume volcanoes would generate NO2 and NO3, and those would react with iron oxide, iron sulphide, also streaming out of volcanic or hydrothermal vents.

I remember that cyanobacteria lived on iron oxide in shallow seas and tide pools. They worked pretty fast. Given the heat and pressure at ocean depths, I imagine reactions took little time. And with the water to control the temperature, it was maybe just right for making lots of ammonia. (380 degrees C is the temperature found at some vents, less than the critical 800 degrees C).

And, ammonia makes a great greenhouse gas. Early temperatures from the sun were less than today. Greenhouse gases kept the planet from freezing.

This unadvanced post comes with a nifty picture. One meter tube worms, with no
mouth, gut, or anus, but lots of symbiotic bacteria. And a pink fish. I think there
are some blue crabs, too.

Tolerant of Depths, and Adept at Life

I forgot about something. One sign of making progress is the use of a pillow.
Yes, that's my belief. And this is a picture of pillow basalt, rich in minerals,
and accompanied by hydrogen sulfide. All just right for a comfortable temperature, way down there.

Pillow Basalt Fresh Off The Ocean Floor
aquatus1
And, if you happen to be a pink worm or a blue crab, these rare oasis's in the desert that is the oceanic abyss would be a great place to survive. Until you get many more resources, however, you will have to settle for living as a scavenger.

You will certainly not have the time to put together an advanced society.
Erikl
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You think? Parasites use an animal till it's dead, then move on to another. Humans either breed animals or raise crops.

You said it here yourself - WE breed animals in order to later on slaughter them for food.
Hence why this is a complex case of parasitism.

look what I wrote early on:
"A. although we do give something to the hosters (the cows in our farms, the tomatoes in the fields), we contribute resources in order to later on kill them and eat the resources in the form of more meat (give more food = fatter cows = more meat)."

We breed those animals, feed them and make them fatter, in order to later on eat more meat. Thus, we are not only parasites, we also developed a way to convert vegetation into meat through our hosters.


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Like I said, as nice as it is to claim humans are the worst scourge Earth has ever seen, we just aren't that significant in the big scheme of things.

I don't think we are the worst scourge on earth, I simply think this is an interesting phenomenon.
Humans do not act naturally because we have gone through social evolution - you said so yourself.
We were omnivorous apes to begin with, hunters and gatherers later on (thanks to the invention of hunting tools), and then became parasites (thanks to us herding animals and raising crops in order to kill them later on).
Shai_Hulud
Sometimes it is taking an analogy too far. Humans behaviour resembles are parasitic in some context, but it cannot be taken to mean that humans are parasites or that a parasitical organism can be use in an analogy to describe their imtelligence. Some parasitical organism does influence the behaviour of their hosts, but only in peripheral way and indirectly at that. At no time is their influence any act of their will. Human parasitism is entirely an act of our will, we decide to do it. A true parasite in the sense of the word is evolved into this function, it does not need intelligence to perform its "parasitism".
Erikl
QUOTE(Shai_Hulud @ Jul 2 2005, 12:08 PM)
Sometimes it is taking an analogy too far. Humans behaviour resembles are parasitic in some context, but it cannot be taken to mean that humans are parasites or that a parasitical organism can be use in an analogy to describe their imtelligence. Some parasitical organism does influence the behaviour of their hosts, but only in peripheral way and indirectly at that. At no time is their influence any act of their will. Human parasitism is entirely an act of our will, we decide to do it. A true parasite in the sense of the word is evolved into this function, it does not need intelligence to perform its "parasitism".
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Ofcourse!
Human parasitism is the result of human civilization.

Look at what I've written.

But did humans really chose to create civilization, or is this part of our evolution?
SnakeProphet
I'd say both.We can choose to evolve into predators again,right?
Misweetangel
well they say we came from apes lol but dna has shown we all came from 2 people so does this mean only 2 evoled? i don't believe we came from apes at all i mean come on if are dna can be traced and it clearly shows we started from two ...how can they say we came from apes and if we did why so we still have apes that has been around sense the time we sapositly evoled would they have evolded the same as us or differently evoled like we saposity have ...evaluation is something they say that happens over billions of years yet he have things that have stood the same for billions of years and will be the same after we are long gone..thats thy i like science all it is a big hypothesis a bunch of random guesses that have been proven in some ways and dis-proven in others. so the topic is could there be a advanced civilized race or species under the ocean maybe >different invierment>different needs>different way of life. as was quoted earlyer . i fully agree. Yet who are we to say what is civilized our term is what we have made it to be the ancient civilizations were as we say civilized but not like how we consider it now in this time and day so maybe they could be just not in the way we think. Native indians were civilized in there terms but when the white men came there were called un-civilized to there point of view. maybe if there is there smart enuff not to make contact with us thinking we are un-civilized in there view.

well hope you could understand me lol i have been taking english for 2 years now
Essan
Hang on! Hang on! Hang on!

I've just noticed the title of this thread. Another advanced race? unsure.gif

I wasn't aware there were any advanced races on this planet w00t.gif no.gif innocent.gif Sure the dolphins are fairly clever, but then they spoil it all by getting all emotional and saving humans for no obvious reason..... And the termites may be great builders, but what have they really acheieved in the past 10 million years?

And let's face it, surely one sign of an advanced race is that they don't sh** in their own beds. So that counts us out! tongue.gif
bornlivedie
I hear the number is closer to 5%, but regardless this is a very tiny number. And yes, there could be millions of more races under the sea, because all life came from there, but i doubt the would have abnormal intelligence, because i think many would be the basic forms of life, and adaptations and the such.
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 2 2005, 04:23 PM)
Hang on!  Hang on!  Hang on!

I've just noticed the title of this thread.  Another advanced race?  unsure.gif

I wasn't aware there were any advanced races on this planet  w00t.gif  no.gif innocent.gif    Sure the dolphins are fairly clever, but then they spoil it all by getting all emotional and saving humans for no obvious reason.....  And the termites may be great builders, but what have they really acheieved in the past 10 million years? 

And let's face it, surely one sign of an advanced race is that they don't sh** in their own beds.  So that counts us out!  tongue.gif
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Duh
are you forgetting the mice ?
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Shai_Hulud
Humans existed at least for 100,000 years before we formed civilized societies. In the last 10,000yrs we accomplished a great deal, so it may be said that human civilization is a byproduct of our intelligence instead of being mandated by evolution. An advance civilization produces an area of effect that can be observed in the environ around them such as waste byproducts, reducion of certain species, temperature and other anomalies.
Maekrix
QUOTE(FreyKade @ Jun 30 2005, 08:18 PM)
an underwater civilisation is not a far fetched idea. just because we use certain resources, doesnt mean that a civilisation living in water would need to. different enviroment > different needs > different inventions. so maybe sea civilisations exist, they just arent  advanced enough to make contact abouve water
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Or maybe they're so highly advanced that they know that if they come in contact with the surface that it could have disasterous results. Think how much humans would want to gather bodies, and even try to exterminate this race?

Or maybe they ARE above the surface. Anyone believe in flying saucers? I'm pretty sure with that design, you'd be able to travel under water, it'd slice the water 'in half'.

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Also, there are some very valuable resources under the water. There are plenty of deposits of metals, even precious ones like gold. If I remember right from science class, these deposits have hot gases coming from the mantle, and in this gas, which is extremely hot, particles of these metals float out into the water, building up.

For all we know, the ocean could (and very probably IS) covered with them, allowing for an unknown race to at least access the resources, if they even need them.

Is it not possible that they have natural body parts that take care of things we need? Perhaps they have claws to provide defense, perhaps their source of communication is with waves (sound waves, echolocation), which in their depths, we'd be unable to detect?
marduk
Mice



Mice are not, as is commonly assumed on Earth, small white squeaking animals who spend a lot of time being experimented on.
In fact, they are the protrusions into our dimension of hyper-intellegent pan-dimensional beings. These beings are in fact responsible for the creation of the Earth.

Two mice (Frankie and Benjy) escaped from Earth before the premature termination of its programme. They had belonged to an Earthling known as Trillian. They were rather keen to remove Arthur Dent's brain to reveal the ultimate question, which they had devoted a lot and time and money to finding.

The whole business with the cheese and the squeaking is just a front.

and the dolphins are smarter than us.
thats why they smile all the time
they're laughing at us. laughing at our ineptitude.
muhahahahahahaha
so long and thanks for all the fish w00t.gif
baastetnoir

yes ther is another[i]advanced[/b] race on our planet...their called insects... they have been here for "gazillions of years", and they can resist to almost EVERYTHING much better than humans...
marduk
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 10:33 PM)
yes ther is another[i]advanced[/b] race on our planet...their called insects... they have been here for "gazillions of years", and they can resist to almost EVERYTHING much better than humans...
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I once had a woman walk down my back in stilettoes.
show me the insect that can resist that. hehehe
How many Gazillion years exactly baastetnoir ?? w00t.gif
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baastetnoir
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 10:33 PM)
yes ther is another[i]advanced[/b] race on our planet...their called insects... they have been here for "gazillions of years", and they can resist to almost EVERYTHING much better than humans...
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I once had a woman walk down my back in stilettoes.
show me the insect that can resist that. hehehe
How many Gazillion years exactly baastetnoir ?? w00t.gif
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ROFL ... Marduk... live those women alone !!! tongue.gif
i did say ALMOST everything... how should i know how many Gazillions Illions?? what am i a scientist ???
marduk
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 10:53 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 10:33 PM)
yes ther is another[i]advanced[/b] race on our planet...their called insects... they have been here for "gazillions of years", and they can resist to almost EVERYTHING much better than humans...
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I once had a woman walk down my back in stilettoes.
show me the insect that can resist that. hehehe
How many Gazillion years exactly baastetnoir ?? w00t.gif
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ROFL ... Marduk... live those women alone !!! tongue.gif
i did say ALMOST everything... how should i know how many Gazillions Illions?? what am i a scientist ???
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was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif thumbsup.gif wacko.gif
baastetnoir
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 06:04 PM)
was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif  thumbsup.gif  wacko.gif
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hehehe... a good whipping session would fix your back pretty good !!! w00t.gif tongue.gif
marduk
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 06:04 PM)
was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif  thumbsup.gif  wacko.gif
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hehehe... a good whipping session would fix your back pretty good !!! w00t.gif tongue.gif
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you sound almost eager.
as long as you promise not to stop if i start bleeding
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isis-999
[quote=marduk,Jul 3 2005, 08:05 PM]
[quote=baastetnoir,Jul 3 2005, 11:13 PM][quote=marduk,Jul 3 2005, 06:04 PM]was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif  thumbsup.gif  wacko.gif
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hehehe... a good whipping session would fix your back pretty good !!! w00t.gif tongue.gif
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you sound almost eager.
as long as you promise not to stop if i start bleeding
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ok Marduke back on thread!!! w00t.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
The Roswell Man
the dolphin race shall rise again.....
Essan
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 2 2005, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 2 2005, 04:23 PM)
Hang on!  Hang on!  Hang on!

I've just noticed the title of this thread.  Another advanced race?  unsure.gif

I wasn't aware there were any advanced races on this planet  w00t.gif  no.gif innocent.gif    Sure the dolphins are fairly clever, but then they spoil it all by getting all emotional and saving humans for no obvious reason.....  And the termites may be great builders, but what have they really acheieved in the past 10 million years? 

And let's face it, surely one sign of an advanced race is that they don't sh** in their own beds.  So that counts us out!  tongue.gif
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Duh
are you forgetting the mice ?
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Ah, well that's a bit embarassing actually. You see, someone left their cage open and there was this cat and, well, er......bye-bye hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings crying.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 4 2005, 04:47 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 2 2005, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 2 2005, 04:23 PM)
Hang on!  Hang on!  Hang on!

I've just noticed the title of this thread.  Another advanced race?  unsure.gif

I wasn't aware there were any advanced races on this planet   w00t.gif  no.gif innocent.gif     Sure the dolphins are fairly clever, but then they spoil it all by getting all emotional and saving humans for no obvious reason.....  And the termites may be great builders, but what have they really acheieved in the past 10 million years? 

And let's face it, surely one sign of an advanced race is that they don't sh** in their own beds.  So that counts us out!  tongue.gif
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Duh
are you forgetting the mice ?
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Ah, well that's a bit embarassing actually. You see, someone left their cage open and there was this cat and, well, er......bye-bye hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings crying.gif
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You need to look up Pan dimensional again Andy
hehehe
marduk
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 4 2005, 05:45 PM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 4 2005, 04:47 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 2 2005, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(Essan @ Jul 2 2005, 04:23 PM)
Hang on!  Hang on!  Hang on!

I've just noticed the title of this thread.  Another advanced race?  unsure.gif

I wasn't aware there were any advanced races on this planet   w00t.gif  no.gif innocent.gif     Sure the dolphins are fairly clever, but then they spoil it all by getting all emotional and saving humans for no obvious reason.....  And the termites may be great builders, but what have they really acheieved in the past 10 million years? 

And let's face it, surely one sign of an advanced race is that they don't sh** in their own beds.  So that counts us out!  tongue.gif
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Duh
are you forgetting the mice ?
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Ah, well that's a bit embarassing actually. You see, someone left their cage open and there was this cat and, well, er......bye-bye hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings crying.gif
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You need to look up Pan dimensional again Andy
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unless it was a pan dimensional Cat
baastetnoir
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 08:05 PM)
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 06:04 PM)
was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif  thumbsup.gif  wacko.gif
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hehehe... a good whipping session would fix your back pretty good !!! w00t.gif tongue.gif
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you sound almost eager.
as long as you promise not to stop if i start bleeding
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devil.gif devil.gif there are really weird species out there ...lol
marduk
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 4 2005, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 08:05 PM)
QUOTE(baastetnoir @ Jul 3 2005, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 3 2005, 06:04 PM)
was i complaining about women ?
should i mention that i enjoyed it a great deal and it sorted that kink out in my back nicely thankyou.. w00t.gif  thumbsup.gif  wacko.gif
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hehehe... a good whipping session would fix your back pretty good !!! w00t.gif tongue.gif
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you sound almost eager.
as long as you promise not to stop if i start bleeding
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devil.gif devil.gif there are really weird species out there ...lol
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Obviously I can't repeat your sentiment personally
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eveningsky339
I see this thread has pretty much died.
marduk
QUOTE(eveningsky339 @ Jul 4 2005, 10:38 PM)
I see this thread has pretty much died.
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It's dead when people start turning up and then posting "I see this thread has pretty much died"
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Maekrix
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ Jul 4 2005, 11:35 AM)
the dolphin race shall rise again.....
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Wait? When was their decline? Haven't you seen those gigantic dolphin-shaped objects in the sky? I suspected them all along... dontgetit.gif
manchiald
okay i havent read this whole thing.. but just to let you know that ants are incredibly surprisingly intelligent, especially with a large amount of them... i was watching discovery channel and it showed ants making high-ways.. not literall ones.. but all the fighter ants would make ant walls (wlls made of fearsome hissing ants) about 3 inches tall.. and they kill anything that poses a threat. In the middle of this "high-way" are thousands of ants (about a inch in length) zipping back and forth taking food back to the home.

also what i herd, is that there is an advanced race in the middle of the earth, im a little skeptical but they say that they are like 17 ft humans there.. and there are enteries to thier civilization all over the earth.. the major entrences are in area 51 and the other major one is in the bermuda triangle. they say that the tunnels are made of a marble finish and are as wide as jet planes.. and the shuttles that transport travel at great speeds.

furthermore, i dont think there is an advanced race under sea, although it is possible.. they say at great depths no sunlight reaches and the water is very warm and there are still an array of species living there... but the reasons why i dont think there is an advanced society is because they would have came to the surface by now.. curiosity would of brought them here..i do think there are animals down there that sharks dont got sh** on. im talking dinasour type animals.. and they cant come this far up cause the water is too cold and/or thier lungs would implode...

but thats just what i think .. i could be wrong tho.
flights of fancy
QUOTE(manchiald @ Jul 12 2005, 09:12 PM)
okay i havent read this whole thing.. but just to let you know that ants are incredibly surprisingly intelligent, especially with a large amount of them... i was watching discovery channel and it showed ants making high-ways.. not literall ones.. but all the fighter ants would make ant walls (wlls made of fearsome hissing ants) about 3 inches tall.. and they kill anything that poses a threat. In the middle of this "high-way" are thousands of ants (about a inch in length) zipping back and forth taking food back to the home.
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Saw the same show.. I was completely fascinated by those little critters..But, everyone knows an ant can't move a rubber tree plant!!!!! grin2.gif
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also what i herd, is that there is an advanced race in the middle of the earth, im a little skeptical but they say that they are like 17 ft humans there.. and there are enteries to thier civilization all over the earth.. the major entrences are in area 51 and the other major one is in the bermuda triangle. they say that the tunnels are made of a marble finish and are as wide as jet planes.. and the shuttles that transport travel at great speeds.
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PLEASE, don't believe everything you hear...you'll go deaf  blink.gif
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furthermore, i dont think there is an advanced race under sea, although it is possible.. they say at great depths no sunlight reaches and the water is very warm and there are still an array of species living there... but the reasons why i dont think there is an advanced society is because they would have came to the surface by now.. curiosity would of brought them here..i do think there are animals down there that sharks dont got sh** on. im talking dinasour type animals.. and they cant come this far up cause the water is too cold and/or thier lungs would implode...
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Advanced race under the sea, possible?????????? puhleees..
If Jacques Cousteau didn't find it, it's not there ph34r.gif
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but thats just what i think .. i could be wrong tho.
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But then again, you could be right!  What then???  w00t.gif



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isis-999
Welcome to um, I hate to sound rude, but there is no secret race,It would be very hard for anyone 17 feet tall to hide for very long. Also, their are volcano vents on the ocean floor, that allow the water to be very warm and in some places hot very hot, This would be the reason for all the species of animals living there,It would even explain the mutilations these animals show, And for A51 and other secret places, these are places for the goverment to build and hide weapons, There are no aliens, no 17 foot hybirds, no hidden tunnels! I do respect what you think but some of these claims are just to far out there it even make since! tongue.gif
LosTSouL
[quote=Galor,Jun 30 2005, 08:07 PM]
This theory has been floating around my head for a bit, but I haven't had time to post it. Basically could there be another advanced race on our planet? I don't mean on land; I mean undersea! Humans have only explored 2% of the Pacific Oceans bottom; what's to say there might not be an advanced race living down there? And also maybe this race is located under the bermuda triangle, explaining all the weird happeninsg there; a crazy theory, but an interesting one at that.

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Why not,i mean as a theory is very interesting.How about this...They are many(ok not many but they are some)critures living 8000-9000m under the water.So why not another species livin there.And for example they evolved there as we on ground.And by evolving there they dont have problems with the big pressure there.As for us is very difficult to go so deep maybe for them is same with goin "up" thats why we dont know bout them.
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isis-999
Well they would have to not only be able to with stand the cold and darkness, they would also have to be able to with stand the pressure of being that far under the water, If this was a advance race; I am sure they could build a structure to support themselves in, But with all the military sub's and other deep water exploration, You would think someone would have found a lost world just hanging around down there! I believe someday we may be able to live under the sea, But i do not believe there is anyone living down there now! no.gif
LosTSouL
QUOTE(Galor @ Jun 30 2005, 08:07 PM)
This theory has been floating around my head for a bit, but I haven't had time to post it.  Basically could there be another advanced race on our planet? I don't mean on land; I mean undersea! Humans have only explored 2% of the Pacific Oceans bottom; what's to say there might not be an advanced race living down there? And also maybe this race is located under the bermuda triangle, explaining all the weird happeninsg there; a crazy theory, but an interesting one at that.

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Why not,i mean as a theory is very interesting.How about this...They are many(ok not many but they are some)critures living 8000-9000m under the water.So why not another species livin there.And for example they evolved there as we on ground.And by evolving there they dont have problems with the big pressure there.As for us is very difficult to go so deep maybe for them is same with goin "up" thats why we dont know bout them.
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manchiald
take for example eels which move in the space way sperm moves... which i thought i would point out because in water plants seeds actually have a flagella type thing.... furthermore the eels burrow inside of the coral structures... so if from water came moss and algea... eventually plants and somehow someway us..whos to say another race didnt decide to stay in the water and from murmaids they burrowed inside the coral reefs and started adapted by looking for larger corals to burrow inside to make tunnels like gophers hince tunnels... so its very possible that there is a race that lives waaaaaayyyy beneath the earth as we know it for sure to be... and the center of the earth is therorized to be a lava core hince the volcanoes that evolve with the georgraphic as the earth as a whole evolved. but humans havent ventured that far deep in the earth. we know for sure like the first like 10 layers of like probably hundreds or thousands... and im talking grass soil the composting soil type stuff (reall deep) so i could believe that there is a race burrowed in somehwere in the earth building tunnels and moving soil around to make big chambers... which could probably explain earth quakes.. when they are making thier tunnels they got to move whatevers down there around so that could cause dramatic sonic booms up here.. anywho.. let me stop rambling on.. you get the point.. kbye.
vanax
Did any of you ever watch "The Abyss" ? thats what the whole movie is all about. any way just thought i'd tell you.
Celumnaz
if there was no need to evolve to survive, would they? If so, then yeah some kind of advanced race might be there. If not, then nah, they've only evolved to the point of survival. Right? or no?
I am
Hmm, dolphins and wales are intelligent. Maybe there's 'intelligent' life, but they can't build/create cities or anything because they don't have any hands.

It'd be really hard to build a space-ship without hands wouldn't it? Hell, it'd be hard to build anything.
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