These have been seen by thousands of people.They are not Baloons....what are they ? Whats goin on ?

http://www.rense.com/general66/uupd.htm

woah some thing werid is going on. I wish I could have seen that.

Kinda Scary to think they can just fly around like that in such numbers.....surely the Air force could get close enough to snap off a few pics........It looks like an invasion force from Independence day or something !!!!!
Somethings goin on in Mexico at the moment........

Well thats kinda scary! Are they to do with the government or something else?...oo

This is some wierd sh**... mabye that Profhet was right about the ufo's...

UPDATE :
Heres the video's of the above objects.Unfortunately my firewall wont let me download em.....if anyone can put another link to them i'd appreciate it ........Thanks

http://www.rense.com/general66/3mps.htm

weird weather phenomenon??

You see this is interesting stuff, but what is more interesting is the fact I didn't see this on American tv at all. I had to go to this site for this stuff. These are not a weather pattern effect, and not balloons so what are they?

This might work: -click-
Scroll down, click the 'Free'-button.
On the next page, scroll all the way down and wait until the counter reaches 0 and the downloadlinkd appears.

This is so weird i seen this pic on a ufo doc, it does look as if they are about to take over,does anyone know if they found out what this is?

Uhhhmmmmnnn.... This is what they called probing peoples reaction if they go in large numbers. And its THE WAR OF THE WORLDS ! Scarry... but its not impossible.

Just a thought.....where are thousands of missing people every month in the
U.S. alone go ???? Let's say some go to human trafficking, murders unsolved,
cult using human sacrifice, prostitution.

But see the mail in your mail box, where a combination of a child and an adult
are missing ? Is there a connection ? Why most of them had to be related
when they are missing ?

I'm going to cave in and concede something. After reading the expressions given by persons on this thread, I decided to re-examine my personal beliefs. First, I remember press accounts in Mexico, accusing American soldiers of raping Iraqi women. The stories were backed up with 'images'. I recognized the weapons in the images, the uniforms, etc,. and correctly denouced it everywhere as a fake.

So, naturally, that, and other reasons prevented me from going slack-jawed over the ufo flotillas in Mexico. I heard rumors of how they were produced, and why it was done, and who did it. Hat in hand, I'm am not so sure, anymore.

Especially, after tonight. When I dropped my pre-conceived notions, I arrived at these conclusions. First, I was biased (that's understandable). Second, my idea that the objects were balloons, tethered by string, gave way when I observed a
certain maneuver between four objects, and two in particular (the first video on my link, below). And third, I have abandoned the idea that others were nothing more that christmas lights in a window...

I considered the atmosphere in the early hours, with warm air rising from the earth to lower altitudes. The objects hold their positions, as if tied by string, true, BUT some perform maneuvers! What they are, I do not know- Spheres! And, I will say this. If they were hostile, and took up a formation like a V, or some such formation of military-like precision, it would say something to us!

These were apparently spontaneous, loosley organized events. Well attended, well numbered, but disorganized. What does that say? And why Mexico? I'll say this. It is south of the US, and halfway to Venezuela, where the US gets most of its transport fuels. It is also very populous. It also 'snubs' the U.S. Ir also plays into the whole superstition of the world- those who believe in vodoo, catholicism, and they have a great mix of that, as does South America.

I will postulate, this is a crude attempt at something, trying to appeal not to a scientific community, but the mythological depths of peoples perceptions. It may work that way on some, but too many are educated, around the world, to fall for
the return of a modern day Cortez! We see no Quetzal birds!


Here is a link to many videos, all in spanish. The largest files are dead links, designed to make you purchase the DVDs for sale. That is the way of the world-

UFOs Over Mexico

There does seem to be something strange going on in Mexico, particularly around the Arecibo observatory.
There's been reports of UFO's going into the sea around there, starting rumours of an underwater base. Might explain the huge numbers of sightings there. Just a thought.

Put your finger on it there, maybe ... what better timing for the release of a movie about an alien invasion than to actually have an alien invasion ... now isn't that convenient ...

I am not sure what smeg means in Ireland but in America it means something, well "dirty" literally.

That is some pretty strange activity reported here; I wonder why more media outlets did not cover this.

I am pretty sure that if the aliens take over mexico then the rest of the planet has no chance....

Really its an interesting footage but I have to say that the formation looks more to me like a herd of something, rather than a fleet. Maybe they are my favourite sylphs finally making an appearance.

Run for your lives, evil mutant, alien balloons are invading the earth!

Seriously, that's all they were. Balloons. The Governor probably joked they were UFOs and the story snowballed from that....... If you watch the video it's quite obvious what they are! In my book, anything that looks like a balloon, appears to be the size of a balloon, and drifts through the air exactly the way a balloon would is, probably, a balloon....

So unless we're about to be invaded by small bags of rubber filled with hot air, we've nothing to worry about. Except, perhaps, the UFOnuts who think these are alien spaceships. I am a little worried about them.........

Can't see them being balloons because they are so widely spread across the sky. If they were released like in a ceremony then they would have to be quite low still to appear that large, but if they were that low they should still be in a close area not spread over miles. And the large one on the second clip definitely isn't a balloon!

They're not Balloons.....did you watch the video's ??????
They aint Balloons

You try and send up more that 10 helium balloons and see how long they'll stay together .....THEY WONT

NOT BALLOONS..............Next theory please

Only reasonable explanation I can think of is maybe a flock of birds but they don't fly like that so who knows!

Check out the story on the homepage of this site......Not Balloons, Not Birds.....c'mon guys if they were birds we'd all see it at least now and again.......i've never seen birds that look like this when in flight.....silver !!!! Not Birds

Okay well first things first... theres another thread about the US and Russia shooting things in our atmosphere.... se everyone take a look at that.. i'll link it in a sec. Secondly, here's a link http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread151025/pg1 about as flying humanoid over mexico city. Something is certianly going on. War of the Worlds hype, as I suggested in the other thread, is a possibiliy, however, all this needs to be taken seriously I guess. I really don't know what to think.

When I posted in the other thread, it seemed to be publicity, but all this going on at one... thats one big campaign. almost too big?

A somewhat confused Chinnyboo

Okay, here is that link to the other thread I was talking about. Thought I'd be nice for scrollers!
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=44700
Chinnyboo

I dont know what kinda of balloons they sell where you live but i have never seen any balloons look similiar to the ones in those videos. If you released 100 helium balloons in the air like that they would not stay in formation like that they would be all over the place within minutes. ON one of the videos they even zoom in on a larger one that looks like a light with 5 black spheres around it. This along with the ufo video released last year by the mexican airforce is pretty convincing.

After reviewing the footage I have come to the conclusion that they are not balloons. They have made a few aerial maneuvers that would be impossible to do with a balloon just floating around.

And I must say I have been shocked at some of the replies to this post. It is indeed a theory that extraterrestrials may be "invading" Mexican airspace, but some of you have accepted it as cold hard fact. Just because numerous objects that have yet to be identified have appeared over Mexico does not mean that we are being invaded by an alien race.

That being said, I believe that these objects are caused by a purely geological force within the earth. There are several volcanoes in and around Mexico, and I believe some of the gases within the earth may be the culprit for a few of these sightings. I believe I saw a documentary on the History Channel that concluded the same.

Either that or they are
a)balloons
b)some other uknown aircraft
c)extraterrestrials

Have you watched how they drift about relative to one another?

I think too many people want them to be something unusual......

Bear in mind too that the video - probably quite deliberately - gives no indication of height or distance. If you were genuinely filming something unusual, and you had half a brain, you'd make sure you provided context.

Definetely not birds or baloons, ....its sylphs I tell you.....

What are sylphs?

i think when people see this stuff they dont think it all the way through and just start recording without thinking of which way is the best way to capture the video. They could be balloons but its strange they stay in place for over 30 min. People shouldnt automatically believe they are alien ships but then again people shouldnt also discount that they may be something more then just balloons. Unless you were there i dont see how you could make a decision either way. You could only lean more to one side or the other.

slyphs?? Have you actually seen one before. They look like just clouds if you ask me. I am somewhat doubtful of their existence.

They are either balloons designed to look like UFO's or UFO's designed to look like baloons
haha
I dont know, ballons of Aliens that my hypothesis.
Either way it cannot be proved which it is and to say they are not ballons or that they are not extra-terrestrial is to jump to conclusions and most of you are guilty of that.

I agree, however I do not agree they are balloons. If you look closely at the objects, as the clouds move, they do not. The clouds move due to wind and air pressure. If these were balloons, they would move im a similar, if slightly more erratic way. They also move slighty with relation to eachother, almost holding a position (I know, it's a presumption). See how they move only slightly out-of-sync with eachother, why still holding the same place in the sky. Weird. If these were comets, that would make sense, but they'd have to be moving very slowly and be very big to see them from earth if they were out of the atmosphere, and if they were IN our atmosphere, then we'd have them hit already. Just some more fuel to the fire,
Chinnyboo

I think you'll find it's the balloons moving and not the clouds

"People shouldnt automatically believe they are alien ships but then again people shouldnt also discount that they may be something more then just balloons. "

EXACTLY, because you cant prove it, belief is pointless.

Hmm, not so sure about that ...
coz ive seen plenty of clouds move that fast before

If this happen to be extraterrestrial engines then maybe this is an attempt at communication.
Maybe they are trying to display some particular star configuration to tell us where they come from?

I checked on the New York Stock Exchange to see who was in the advertising and novelty balloon business. I found one of the world's largest is CTI, out of Illinois. It has a division in Guadalajara, Mexico, and it is Mexico's largest manufacturer of novelty balloons.

The whole company does between $30-48 million annual revenue, and carries debt
equal to assets. It made capital improvements to the Guadalajara facility about two years ago, that cost $330,000. It was carried as a debt on the books. The business is cost-intensive, with little room for profit. It would not cost a lot to release balloons for publicity, but not to inform investors is to risk possible lawsuits. For an airplane (Guadalajara International) to encounter hundreds of yards of plastic ribbon and balloons is to risk ending up in court, in my opinion. CTI also states they endeavor to be environmentally safe.

The mexican and brazillian ufo investigators claim they have been reviewing films of balloons, like the Pope's visit. They say they have talked to aeronautical engineers, and get responses that rule out balloons. They also invited the representative from CTI, Guadalajara to discuss whether these were balloons. He stated they were nothing known to his experience.

Guadalajara does not look like a place for ufo excitement. A publicity stunt?
The issue has been pursued on Mexican T.V. One last matter. There is an aviation
related law in Mexico- no balloon objects over 4-5 meters, to protect airplanes.

Guadalajara


CTI does have a 17" round shaped white balllon, in the general catalog. But, I still wonder how they deal legally with a mass of balloons larger than legal limits?

CTI Parent Website, USA

Read This

http://www.rense.com/general66/uupd.htm

Scientists have examined the tapes and discarded balloons...also look at the big one among them its a strange shape for a balloon

I know Mexico has long been an haven for UFO sightings many of them witnessed by hunbdreds of people at a time, however I have to sy this picture looks very similar to my Daughters Primary School ballon race day.

They can't be balloons, firstly they're spread over a huge area of the sky, secondly, if there was a big release of balloons like that in the city then it would have had to have been reported because of possible aircraft in the vicinity and thirdly have you ever seen balloons move like that independently of each other, they move with the wind which only moves in one direction at a time. The only plausible explanation is birds of some type but they fly in close formation, so the truth is no one knows what they are

Looks like a very small area of the sky to me. But as already noted, the camera (deliberately?) provides no reference points whatsoever. How far away are they? How high up? What size? Why doesn't he focus in on them? Call me an old cynic (which I am) but the film has been made as ambiguous as possible in order to fervent internet speculation.

My daughters primary school release several hundreds every year as a charity raising event and they are spread over al larger area of sky than those on that picture.

If you watch the first video, you can see how high they are because they go behind the clouds that are scattered around, if they were that high to disappear behind cloud you wouldn't be able to see them from the ground, as they are a maximum of 10in across, and they look like they are made of metal or something not rubber because they are very bright, balloons tend to have a mat finish, and what is the larger object in the middle of the group if it's at the same height as those "balloons" it must be massive.

Update

Another sighting in Mexico City this time....again the balloon theory is vapourised.

http://www.rense.com/general66/sant.htm


If i have one criticism it's this....this Jamie Maussen guy should have camera's at the ready with telescopic lenses...he always seems to be around when it's happening.......Mexico...get some good cameras

Bogeyman-

I have looked at various websites regarding sightings from South Texas (hispanic),
to Mexico. I can only say, that right now, I feel we are being fed a line of c*** and bull. The reasons are as follows-

This stuff is making a mockery of more typical ufo sightings, and it perpetuates an escalating competiton that Mexico is waging for tourist dollars and DVD sales. I think a few individuals are behind this, with implicit disregard by the authorities. It means money. Mexico is anything but honest in its law enforcement- have you seen the drug war shoot-outs between their law enforcement agencies competing for drug territory turf? Cops shooting cops!

And the border scam policies? The kidnappings? The disregard of the poor by the top tiers? C'mon... That place is rife...I live next door.


I watched this for the first time a few hours ago. I had only seen other accounts,
with background music, added for 'effect'. Notice something? Someone has a hacksaw, and is sawing pipe, in the background. They know it's balloons! And the
street voices are TOTALLY non-plussed! They know they are balloons. What we have is a stooge video cameraman, who may have been 'paid'. That behavior is common. And now, the fever spreads, and the same sources feed us the same old c*** and bull! I call them liars to a one! Let them get REAL bonafied outside experts to investigate. Then I'll change my tune.

Street Noise-
GuadFleet.mpg


Possible modis operandi. From the parent website of CTI International Balloons-

How to Make A Mother Balloon UFO Using CTI's Balloons


I believe rare, individual motions to-and-frow are random air currents, and possible editing, at times. I saw several camera flares passed of as ufos by mexican ufologists. I think someone is trying to capitalize on the odd geniune ufo sightings. Brazil pushes DVD sales of mexican balloon sightings. That's because no fool would give their credit card to any mexican outfit over the internet.

They were quick to pounce on Brian Bessent and his 'Smiley Flower Snowman ' ufo film. The hispanics are jealous of what they consider their turf! Everyone is a fraud but them...it's called muscle. And it gives them an ounce of credibility to denounce 'frauds' (outside their region, of course). Bessent was attacked on all fronts, and the Mexicans and Brazillians were right up front from the beginning. I read their views from the start of Bessent's slide into infamy.

And they push stuff like humanoids floating around, at Rense-

Flying Not-So-Superman in Mexico


Its like the fake automobile parts, and fake aircraft parts that come from places in the Far East, and Mexico. Fake labels, in a world of real products...

My opinions, until more proof is given. Thanks.

PS- I do not know if they are tied. I doubt it, because of legal restrictions.
But, put enough balloons up at the same time, and maybe they move en masse.

OH SNAP!!

Was that hands breaking redwood? Or, fingers breaking air?

Having been blessed with no deep thoughts, I am, nonetheless, on my own meager learning curve. Thanks for this revelment of your insight. At least, it seems you may be acknowledging a prior-insight into these matters.
Such brevity betrays you!

lol Bogeyman do you actually apply any of your own common-sense before you repeatedly post sensationalist stories from a well-known sensationalist site?

And for the record I believe in UFO's.

These images are pretty freaky, I do not see how they could have been faked. Unfortunate that a doctor or proffessor was not walking under them when it happened...

You've also been blessed with no sense of humor. What a Crabby Appleton.

If a longer response to clarify my feelings is desired, let me elaborate: I think the video is interesting, or "cool", to use the vernacular of today's youth. It's always difficult to authenticate any such video evidence of UFOs, which is why there remains ongoing debate. It is always enjoyable, however, to see such evidence and respond to it. That is why I refrained from participating in the "is it or isn't it" variety of response and instead posted a two-word description of my feelings on the picture and video clips in question.

I say again, OH SNAP