im with homer.. very interesting, i never knew of this... thankx for the find.. do you have a source to go with it.. i could read in more depth?
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I have a source for the ruins at Nan-Matal
they are a fictional place that appears in the Solar Pons Cthulu mythos stories
They don't appear anywhere else
let alone in micronesia
hehehe
Next week I'll do a thread on Supermans alaskan home and state
"The present day Eskimos would certainly have been unable to carry out this type of construction."

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According to author Colonel James
Churchward (retired English Army colonel),
Lemuria - Mu - was about 5,000 miles
long and 3,000 miles wide, a beautiful
tropical paradise like the Garden of Eden.

He claims there were 64 million people who
died in the sinking, and that it dated back over 50,000
years. The Pacific Islands are the remaining mountain
peaks of the lost continent. Precise detailed maps of the
lost continent of Mu and Atlantis were found on stone
tablets ( Ref #1 on top of page ) from Pre-Inca Ica, Peru,
by Dr. Javier Cabrera, engraved in stone and photographed
by Robber Charroux.

United Nations diplomat Farida Iskobiet, assistant to United
Nations President Adam Malik, came to Maui in 1972 and
researched Lemurian ruins and history and concluded
that they were real.

One of Hawaii's leading authorities on Lemurian research
was Sgt. Williard Wannall from Army Intelligence in Oahu.
He reported that ruins of a submerged Lemurian city was
between Maui and Oahu. It was a top secret project in Naval
Intelligence in 1972.

Most of these photos originate from Nan Dowas, one of 80 artificial islets. Built between 700 and 1200 and last occupied in 1600's. These huge Basalt prisms where moved from 'quarries' from the four sides of Pohnpei - through means as of yet undetermined. These Basalt logs - some 20 feet long and weighing many tons where stacked to form these once occupied islets.

Some of the stones showed ranges of wear - as if built and/or rebuilt over time with newer stones added.

A short distance off the coast of the remote Micronesian island of Pohnpei lies one of the greatest archeological mysteries in the world, the Lost City of Nan Madol. Built on an ancient coral reef and covering more than 11 square miles, this ancient city is made up of hundreds of artificial islets, intersected by numerous manmade canals. Even more curious, many of the city’s larger islands are connected by submerged tunnels. First discovered in the early 1800’s by European sailors, this baffling and immense megalithic stone city may contain evidence for the fabled lost continent of Mu.

http://www.zuko.com/Mysterious_Planet/Lost_Cities.htm

The mysterious Nan Madol is built entirely out of gigantic magnetized basalt crystals, some weighing as much as fifty tons. In fact, the entire city contains an estimated 250 million tons of the prismatic basalt rock.

How this city came into existence, continues to baffle archeologists. Considering that radiocarbon dating and archeological excavations establishes Nan Madol to be as old as 200 BC, any conventional explanation for this massive construction (such as brute force) simply does not work very well. Native mythology suggests that the stones were magically flown through the air and placed in the city.
Nan Madol is steeped in scientific controversy and legend. The word 'Pohn-pei' means 'on the alter' and 'Nan-Madol' means 'the spaces between', indicating the canals - or spaces between the artificial islands.

-The fact that in all ancient cultures, Lemuria is referenced throughout, and it's symbols appear in many parts of the world at the same time. For example, the Book of the Dead of Nany in Egypt, is speculated by Churchward to be a type of memorial to the sunken homelands of Lemuria and Atlantis.
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The Mauri legends sound fascinating I'd love to hear more about those when you have the time. With regards to your ancestral home being called "Hawaikii" that's a perfect example of one of the points I always try to get across to people, just because we know in modern western cultures know a place as 'Mu' 'Atlantis' or whatever doesn't mean that our name is the correct one, when the civilisation actually existed it could have had a complely different name. What's important is the fact that it did exist, not the label that Western scholars like to give it now. Mauri legend can't be accused of being corrupted and romanticised in the same way that Western accounts can, plus as you point out, there are ancient glyphs that tell their own story as to the origins of the Mauri.

Yap and Palau to the southwest were probably inhabited as early as 2000 BC by Austronesian navigators from the west (Philippines and Indonesia). The Yapese speak a western Austronesian language quite different from the eastern Austronesian languages spoken by the other three states of the Micronesian Federation (Chuuk, Pohnpei, Kosrae) that were peopled much later from the south (Solomons).

The Portuguese were the first to visit Yap in 1525. They were followed by occasional whalers and traders until the 1870s when Spain and Germany both lay claim to Yap. The issue was settled in Spain's favor by the Pope but Spain sold Yap and the other Caroline islands to Germany in 1899. After WW I, the Japanese were given a mandate over Yap in 1919. They fortified it and held it until the end of W.W.II, when it was occupied by American forces.

Yap then became part of the "American Trust Territory" from which Palau and the Marshall islands seceded in 1978. What was left became the "Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) which was admitted in the UN in 1991. The FSM are nominally independent but its "Compact of Free Association" with the US (financial aid for military bases), makes them de facto colonies of the US. The US dollar is the currency of the FSM.

Nan Madol was the ceremonial and political seat of the Saudeleur dynasty, which united Pohnpei's estimated 25,000 people.[2] Set apart on the main island of Pohnpei, it was a scene of human activity as early as the first or second century AD. By the 8th or 9th century islet construction had started, but the distinctive megalithic architecture was probably not begun until perhaps the 12th or early 13th century.

Carbon dating indicates that the construction of Nan Madol began around AD 1200, while excavations show that the area may have been occupied as early as 200 BC. Some probable quarry sites around the island have been identified, but the exact origin of the stones of Nan Madol is yet undetermined. None of the proposed quarry sites exist in Madolenihmw, meaning that the stones must have been transported to their current location. It has been suggested that they might have been floated via raft from the quarry, but no one has successfully demonstrated the process. Archaeologists have yet to unravel the mystery, and some modern Pohnpeians believe the stones were flown to the island by use of black magic. However, a short dive between the island and the quarries shows a trail of dropped stones.

I read somewhere that it was much much older than thatn... found some more interesting info on James Churchwood... then lost it all when my computer played up today.. have wasted hours trying to find these site again...but can't find them!!!

how can sites disappear from google so quickly????

Most of all, at a time when few could travel great distances, he provided descriptions and illustrations of innumerable megalithic ruins throughout the Pacific region, proof that an advanced civilization occupied a large continent in times past. A civilization capable of constructing immense stone structures, walls, roads and temples of 30- to 50-ton blocks, by unknown means, unduplicatible by today’s engineers.



Such ruins can be found on small islands at landlevel or leading into the sea; some stonework is not native to the island it’s on, originating as much as 300 miles away on another islet.




utton has recently (Nov. 2001) stated that there is a good chance the auguries have started: higher incidence of quakes in the South Seas, activity in the Arctic and Antarctic (polar ice melting), increased volcanism in the torrid areas-all signs given by Cayce (#311-8, April, 1932 & #3976-15, January 1934).


The idea that atomic power is exclusive to the past 100 years, is of it in the 1.200-year-old Maha Bharata and the Ramayana, referring to a war some blasted away by the well-known accounts time before in which:

"A single projectile, with all the power of the Universe, bright as the thousand suns, an unknown weapon, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. Corpses burned as to be unrecognizable, the hair and nails fell out, the birds turned white, foodstuffs infected."

And evidence exists, in the fused-glass (vitrified) streets in the ancient ruined cities of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro, where radioactivity takes geiger counters to max readings.



This area is the present Pakistan, and excavations 100 years ago uncovered scattered skeletons stuck down unawares; clay vessels melted into black stones. Identical tales are told in the Drona Parva and the Bhagavad Gita, in Dravidian and Sanskrit, from which Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer quoted, on watching his first atomic test in the 1940s.



Churchward describes the Maha Bharata version of the war as being between the Kavachas and the Pandavas. And Cayce refers to a war between Urlats (Ural-Altaics?) from the hills, and those of the plains, in which "explosives were used," in 1,097 BC (#2717-1 and #487-4). Pakistan is again an area of conflict, from without her borders, and the Khyber Pass to Afghanistan has always been a major escape route in battles. Perhaps it will he again.



In addition to the pursuit of the lost continent, Colonel Churchward opened the door to many topics that are only now being addressed. More than a few of these are vital. Some should be re-investigated, like the Niven records - if possible, a repeat excavation in the area of his "thrice-buried cities," if urban development hasn’t covered it. The matter of South Pacific ruins, above and below ocean level, built with megalithic blocks from six islands away should be given the same deference as evidence in a court of law.



Explanations that include a sunken continent should be acceptable if they are the only ones that work! The Colonel was a remarkable man, and gained much entrée into high places through his connections as a Freemason. His time with the Rishi, even if but a few years, taught him many secrets of hypnotism, some of which he taught P.T., who demonstrated them often for my friends - not the usual parlor tricks. And, one fact he did not mention to our family, was that he was in British Intelligence in India, which would explain the absence of certain records of James’ early background, especially military. This was revealed by Peter Tompkins (who had the information from unimpeachable sources) in his Mysteries of the Mexican Pyramids.


Of all the stone tablets Colonel Churchward came across, there is but one that is erroneous. It is his tombstone at Kensico Cemetery, Valhalla, New York, which says he was born February 1852. His birth certificate is dated 1851

I read somewhere that it was much much older than thatn... found some more interesting info on James Churchwood... then lost it all when my computer played up today.. have wasted hours trying to find these site again...but can't find them!!!

how can sites disappear from google so quickly????

Most of all, at a time when few could travel great distances, he provided descriptions and illustrations of innumerable megalithic ruins throughout the Pacific region, proof that an advanced civilization occupied a large continent in times past. A civilization capable of constructing immense stone structures, walls, roads and temples of 30- to 50-ton blocks, by unknown means, unduplicatible by today’s engineers.






utton has recently (Nov. 2001) stated that there is a good chance the auguries have started: higher incidence of quakes in the South Seas, activity in the Arctic and Antarctic (polar ice melting), increased volcanism in the torrid areas-all signs given by Cayce (#311-8, April, 1932 & #, January 1934).


The idea that atomic power is exclusive to the past 100 years, is of it in the 1.200-year-old Maha Bharata and the Ramayana, referring to a war some blasted away by the well-known accounts time before in which:

"A single projectile, with all the power of the Universe, bright as the thousand suns, an unknown weapon, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. Corpses burned as to be unrecognizable, the hair and nails fell out, the birds turned white, foodstuffs infected."

And evidence exists, in the fused-glass (vitrified) streets in the ancient ruined cities of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro, where radioactivity takes geiger counters to max readings.



This area is the present Pakistan, and excavations 100 years ago uncovered scattered skeletons stuck down unawares; clay vessels melted into black stones. Identical tales are told in the Drona Parva and the Bhagavad Gita, in Dravidian and Sanskrit, from which Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer quoted, on watching his first atomic test in the 1940s.



Churchward describes the Maha Bharata version of the war as being between the Kavachas and the Pandavas. And Cayce refers to a war between Urlats (Ural-Altaics?) from the hills, and those of the plains, in which "explosives were used," in 1,097 BC (#2717-1 and #487-4). Pakistan is again an area of conflict, from without her borders, and the Khyber Pass to Afghanistan has always been a major escape route in battles. Perhaps it will he again.



In addition to the pursuit of the lost continent, Colonel Churchward opened the door to many topics that are only now being addressed. More than a few of these are vital. Some should be re-investigated, like the Niven records - if possible, a repeat excavation in the area of his "thrice-buried cities," if urban development hasn’t covered it. The matter of South Pacific ruins, above and below ocean level, built with megalithic blocks from six islands away should be given the same deference as evidence in a court of law.



Explanations that include a sunken continent should be acceptable if they are the only ones that work! The Colonel was a remarkable man, and gained much entrée into high places through his connections as a Freemason. His time with the Rishi, even if but a few years, taught him many secrets of hypnotism, some of which he taught P.T., who demonstrated them often for my friends - not the usual parlor tricks. And, one fact he did not mention to our family, was that he was in British Intelligence in India, which would explain the absence of certain records of James’ early background, especially military. This was revealed by Peter Tompkins (who had the information from unimpeachable sources) in his Mysteries of the Mexican Pyramids.


Of all the stone tablets Colonel Churchward came across, there is but one that is erroneous. It is his tombstone at Kensico Cemetery, Valhalla, New York, which says he was born February 1852. His birth certificate is dated 1851




Such ruins can be found on small islands at landlevel or leading into the sea; some stonework is not native to the island it’s on, originating as much as 300 miles away on another islet.

I read somewhere that it was much much older than thatn... found some more interesting info on James Churchwood... then lost it all when my computer played up today.. have wasted hours trying to find these site again...but can't find them!!!

how can sites disappear from google so quickly????

Carbon dating indicates that the construction of Nan Madol began around AD 1200, while excavations show that the area may have been occupied as early as 200 BC. Some probable quarry sites around the island have been identified, but the exact origin of the stones of Nan Madol is yet undetermined. None of the proposed quarry sites exist in Madolenihmw, meaning that the stones must have been transported to their current location. It has been suggested that they might have been floated via raft from the quarry, but no one has successfully demonstrated the process. Archaeologists have yet to unravel the mystery, and some modern Pohnpeians believe the stones were flown to the island by use of black magic. However, a short dive between the island and the quarries shows a trail of dropped stones.

(Off Ponape, 1,300 miles north west of New Guinea).

A system of canals, or rather of channels, cut the mysterious city into small islands surrounded by high walls. Gates once opened and closed these cannals on the seaward side. A wall had been built in the sea - perhaps to protect a port.

The present day Micronesians would certainly have been unable to carry out this type of construction.

Why not? Is there something wrong with the present day Micronesians? Is there something preventing them from being able to do this?

I NEVER understand these statements.

HN

That was my first reaction, too, Nibs.

Also, when will this whole Mu business roll over and die. It was only ever created to explain why lemur skeletons were so far-flung; now we know about continental drift. Honestly, if you're going to go full in on some half-cocked idea, at least be aware of where it came from and why it's silly.

--Jaylemurph