Ah i see, the G8 meeting was really a cover for the Illuminati or the Bilderberg group, or maybe the reptilians, to work on their plans for world domination, so they set up the bombings to distract the attention of those who were getting dangerously close to the truth .... i see ...

blairs team screwed up by recording the downing street memos and letting them get out so as a distraction blairs team had to take a hit--there is also the convienent distraction from karl rove's spy-gate fiasco

Why do debunkers debunk after so many times they arebombarded with facts? easily forgotten, but they are here. Being biased, i say why let a malicious dictator like sadam be allowed. I also say the same for bush.



Exactly, so if it happens, either it is a controlled war from oth sides or you had better pack bags and head for the hils...







I agree totally, yet the US presedent lied big time to get it to happen (as researched by many who say that it was a colaboration, with all the official evidence). so who are the police for the police? or is there a hint of fascism being allowed by all here? Bush Snr MAY HAVE SAID `Let's do war like Hitler, but get the people to agree this time around.`.....sorry, they agreed then as well through propaganda programming....unless the debunkers are unaware that Big Brother programs it's citizens all the time through electronic devices as well as missinformation.




Farakahn mentioned in the early 1980's that the western world will soon beginto embrace the black man in all aspects of it's media, to hype them up while subtly making the whites more anti through promoting envy...I first noticed this a few years later in france bigtime on Billbords etc. Europe never did it so big. The subliminals are begcoming more adventurous lately.... something off topic. I ask any of you to flick through any general feature socal magazine in the house and focus only on the placings of all ads and catch Phrases while you slowly flick through each page. If ever you see pictures of children, may I indicate to you that if you see adjacent mages leading to red wine or food then you are witnessing one of the Iluminati sexual programs for the brave new world. There are loads of stories one can find by joining up the dots so the experiment means nothing. Until you have a pile of magazines like, woman's weekly or the girly or media mags and some newspapers. Do it and see how much we are being programmed....The answer is unity...but it will never arrive...I know this now. So these facts can also easily be twisted to shape one's views.



what are we really living for, is it ultimately for us to produce weapons of mass destruction?

Nobody punched first in the war on iraq. The richer countries destroyed the lands with factories to build weapons to destroy more land and women and children. If you look with a niave but unbiased miind could you not say that the Iraqui anti westerners are correct in their claims about the infidels. They do not live life building weapons but the westerners have few restraints on selling, even the freedom fighters in the streets are hardly focusing on the weapon's plants, funny that I condone war, it destroys the wildlife otherwise humans can kill each other off on the moon. So I do not believe in Sadam's methods as well as Bush's. Equally so, yet sadam had less interest on building weapons...who designed the bomb, who has killed the most with it. Who invented new diseases, who has killed the most with it?????? None of these are Musilim peoples or african or Chinese or many other countries. The crux of the matter is, when are we going to see people focus on the arms dealers and manufacturers and not just the big bombs(I also condone the blowing up of the odd weapons factory in protest and attempt to focus public interest closer to the cause of the problems).




I wonder what the debunkers were doing when they read into these facts??? If I really believed that the Us was innocent and there is no conspiracy i would imedately shout out asking how correct the information is...I am telling you, some debunkers are agents....they cannot care for their personal views if information like this doesn't shake them...It is a natural reaction for a person to be allarmed by the figures above, if they believe the headlines *giggle* So what are they? How many? why are the moderators allowing them???? Why care....freedon fighters will always be...

The press people who were frightened of Michael Jackson being very different made them label him `Wako Jacko` all the way through his career up to the time he was eventuall shown innocent over false claims in court, due to distorted reprots. I gather that it takes a while for the fools who latch on to the media information, to be shaken out of the dream and wake up to the facts instead of holding face with normality as projected by the media....and war is made normal by the media as well as the poisoning of children and the distaste of the enviroment....It's normal enough by being accepted by the majority in the cities by their definate reaction...


Exactly...... would saddam be as nasty a dictator against free loving people if BUSH SENIOR hadn't befriended him, said it's all alright and then sell him some nice cheap weapons..Or would he be a better man if BUSH SENIOR had smacked his wrist, encouraged the UN etc when he realized he was making friends with a meglamaniac...ahem..


..are the US and German's leaders enemies, stale asscociates or business partners?


Planning any policies over the years helps leaders to understand what happens next after i sell these weapons to that unstable guy....whoever did the MANUFACTURING, selling or using of arms are technically all as guilty of the crimes of murder, or should I say mass murder or mass destruction....?

That is a fact those who wish to blame the Bush family keep forgetting, along with a few more facts!




There was another bus bombing smewhere in the world today, where officials state they were electronicly detonated.....sounds familiar hey???

Darn, our cover is blown... head for the hills, Agent Ed, they're on to us...

Yeah exactly, agents, otherwise they are cowering under the mounting evidence.

I know, better call the NWO headquarters and tell them.

better warn agents mulder,dogget,skinner and skully man.oh yeah,and the nwa leader,hollywood hogan!!!

Perusing through the reactions on this site, firstly we seem to have digressed totally off the subject ie: The London Incident
Why poor old Tony Blair gets the blame defeats me. No western Government is to blame. All Western Governments are elected by the electorate. In plain common or garden English means, whoever is in power was put there by you guys! Old Bush is the choice of the American people, and Blair is the British choice, how these guys could actually “conspire” to actually win their respective elections and carry out such delicate planning to pinpoint future events to enshrine themselves in power really is mind boggling.

Actually what is more amusing is there are those who actually believe this nonsense. We all seem to be wiser after the event, but I reckon I am just as stupid after the event as I was before it.

I do agree the popular Media does make it extremely difficult for the general public to be really informed. They re also populated by skeptics, mistrustful paranoid conspirticist theorists and intellectual know-it-alls.

So what do we know?
4 bombs went off
Islamic Fundamentalists claimed responsibility
4 more bombs went off, to a much lesser degree, pointing out that the terror cell who planted the first had just shot their bolt.

The Intelligence gained from these unfortunate events has done more damage to the terrorist groups than the desired result they had hoped. They have exposed themselves, played their hand and the boys in the top room know a bit more than they thought they did.

Thank you for bringing reality and commo n sense to this thread

It wont help, they will never believe common sense.

Of course not. They are entertained by the suffering (or percieved suffering) of others.

Just shows how muchyou people really read...not much. NO islamic group claimed responsibility. However...Blair and Bush are blaming Muslims and Islamists.

Not any one of you has done any research about any of it. Dont waste your time arguing with us, weve done our homework...we have given you details that support foul play...but once again instead of looking at evidence offered you people choose to critisize the messengers...grow up, really. This isnt the whiners or complainers forum...it is a conspiracy forum. Some people here have done some good research...they are on your side in trying to inform you...you should at least treat them with more respect.

The whole London incident looks more like a military/mercenary operation. I repeat...NO muslim or islamic group claimed reponsibility. First clue.

How odd, I could have sworn that a terroist group linked to al quieda claimed responsibility.

What gets me is why fake the CCTV footage of them walking into the train-station.
If Blair and his cronies can lie about that what else are they telling us.

Look at the guy with the white hat,he must be like Mr fantastic with his bendy body.
The bottom parrallel bar is running in front of his body,when he's a few feet in front of it.
And the top bar runs into his head!!!!!
MI5 need to upgrade their photoshop skills.

Blair has never directly blamed Muslims or islamists as you say he has only blamed "extremists" as far as i've seen.

I can't believe that you actually think that the video is a hoax.

It just defies the laws of nature thats all,
The bottom bar is in front of the dude with the white hat when he's a few feet in front,check out the picture.
The top bar is stuck into his head also.
It looks weird but dont worry worry Mr Ed,I dont believe in the lizard men yet.

The Government did not hoax this video.
It is real.

Well I am glad to hear that at least.

Well... if you look at it closely, the guys arm is bent at a right angle just above the place where the bar appears on the picture, his hand is in his coat pocket and not straight alongside his legs, this makes it look as if the bar is actually passing in front of him.
If you ask me about the faces of the two guys at the back then I would have to say
they have been blurred by the authorities intentionally. I think the pic was released when all the terrorists were not yet identified. The pic has been worked on but I don't think it's a fake.

I couldn't see how it was fake either.

I think i get ya,but he would have to have very skinny hips for the bottom bar to be that far into him.If his arm is bent presisely above the bar his left side would still be infront the bars,his left shoulder and below it runs vertical into the middle mans backpack and disapears.
And the bar running into his head looks dodgy.Wheres his legs and feet too?
Sorry if I sound like a crazy person,it just looks strange to me?

It looks completely normal to me.

Especially since they caught one of the guys.

That is an optical illusion created by whatever the guy is holding that makes the bar look like it extends in front of him. very simple.

Oh sure...happens all the time right? C'mon...give me a break. The bar should not be in front of him but why is it there? Explain it away with Republican "fuzzy" math. heh

That guy is pretty skinny alright, most of the lower part of his body is covered by the guy in front.
Take a look at the picture attached; I've circled the portion where one of the guy's shoes is seen and possibly a part of his trousers just above the circled area can also be seen. Now, the bar which you are talking about seems to blend into the strap pattern of the middle man's backpack. All in all I feel it is nothing but a sort of illusion. As for the faces part, I'm sure they have been blurred to avoid the faces from being identified(the police themselves didn't identify all of them yet and were into their own investigations at the time the picture was released). If you zoom the pic large enough, you can clearly see that the face of the back most guy is totally blurred and so it is in the case of the guy we are talking about. The picture IS doctored :YES(for obvious reasons). Fake :NO.