maybe its......... KIM JONG! jk

Well I just got off of work and Im wondering what has been said since the bombing? Any confirmed reports as to who did it?

Seriously, some of the opinions i come across on here make me want to test the forum rules against profanity to their limits.

It was Bush and Blair, was it. Come on, don't hide behind intellectual cleverness and playing with words, if there's anyone who believes it was Bush and Blair and the New World Order or the flaming Illuminati or bloody shapeshifting aliens or any of the other of the whole stinky load of garbage that the conspiracy mongers peddle, come out and say it!

If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck : New York: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning.
Madrid: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning. London: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning.

But hey, there's no proof that there's any connection between them, is there?

Hey, it's a game, isn't it, let's see who can be first to fit it into the conspiracy theory of their choice. It has to be the New World Order; we have proof of that, don't we.

I think we should all be careful about who we condemn for this...it is very important to note that even if it was Islamic extremists...most Arab countries, and clerics condemn these actions as you see in the story below, I pulled it off of Al Jazeeras site. Remember...most Arabs and Arab countries and communities condemn the bombing...this sort of narrows the suspect list a bit. When the IRA bombed something , they let you know it was them...same thing with terrorists...they fight for a cause...and will let you know it was them because they want the recognition.

So don't become racist and mean towards our fellow Arab neighbors!







Al Jazeera


British Muslims condemn blasts

Thursday 07 July 2005, 23:30 Makka Time, 20:30 GMT

The Muslim Council of Britain has condemned the acts
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British Muslim groups have condemned the London blasts, and appealed for calm amid fears of an anti-Muslim backlash.

Prime Minister Tony Blair said there are terrorists who "act in the name of Islam," but said he knew most Muslims worldwide "deplore this act of terrorism".

He welcomed a statement by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), which said it "utterly condemns the perpetrators of what appears to be a series of coordinated attacks".

"These evil deeds make victims of us all," the council said in a statement.

"The evil people who planned and carried out these series of explosions in London want to demoralise us as a nation and divide us as a people. All of us must unite in helping the police to capture these murderers," it said.

Police said they had received no claim of responsibility for the rush-hour blasts.

Police were examining a claim of responsibility on the internet purportedly on behalf of an organisation linked to al-Qaida, but could not confirm its authenticity.

Being targeted



Some London Muslims said they feared they would be targeted as a result of the explosions.

Tony Blair thanked the MCB for
condemning the blasts
"Everyone is subdued, and people are wondering what has happened. People are asking how will it affect us, are we going to be treated in a nice way after this?" restaurant manager Karim Mohammed said. "We have nothing to do with this."


In a statement from his London residence, a grim-faced Blair thanked the Muslim Council of Britain for roundly condemning the bombers who struck in the early morning rush hour.



"We know that these people act in the name of Islam but we also know that the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims both here and abroad are decent and law-abiding people who abhor this kind of terrorism every bit as much as we do," Blair said.

If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck : New York: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning.
Madrid: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning. London: morning rush hour. Public transport targeted. Multiple simaltaneous attacks without warning.

There are differences.
Compare the death toll to those of Madrid and New York.
They were able to kill a lot more people but they didn't.For some reason they seem to be convenient enough with the fear they have caused.
London is supposed to be one of the safest cities of Europe,especially after NY and Madrid,but for some reason they still managed to pull off an extremely well planned operation.I don't think Blair or Bush are involved in this either,but the whole Incident seems strange to me.
If it was al-Quaeda though,we really have to be worried,since they are way more powerful than we at first have thought,and far away from being a few insurgents sitting in mountain caves.

I do not want to say it was anything to do with psychic visions, and I am sure many will think I am a lair, but I am open minded about it. I had a dream the night before Lockerbie when I was a kid, that I was in a aeroplane, and all of a sudden I was falling to the earth, I also had a dream about a week ago that I was in a London underground station trying to get home, and the station was over taken by Islamic extremists, and I was desperately trying to hide from them, and also helping people that had been injured, the dream disturbed me so much I told my girl friend about it the next day, its not until she reminded me about the dream today that I have just realised the coincidental similarities with my dream and the attacks. I have had other strange coincidental dreams before major events in the past. I am open minded to the possibility that I was able to somehow see what was to come, but I am not claming to be a psychic, as I do not believe I am, but I do experiment with psychic theories and it has caused me to open my eyes about these things, but that would not explain the dreams I had as a kid. I have had other dreams where things have happened a day or two later, but they could be coincidental. If you think I am a liar or attention seeker please keep it to your self, all I can say is I have had some strangely coincidental dreams when it comes to big disasters and I would not make up lies about such tragic events. Might well be coincidental, but its made me think again.

So far people...ther have been NO claims as to who was responsible. The news earlier about a secret Al Queda group being responsible is bogus as of right now...appearantly...someone used the website to post something fictitious and the website has since retracted the statement.

What a kick! You actually quoted me? I am amazed!
However, Sun... you missed my point totally.

The fingerprint of those who have gone before creating havoc and death, are all over the attack in London. I don't "already know" and my comment shows NO bias at all! For your information, my "investigative prowess" or, in your opinion, my lack of it, has nothing to do with my comment!

The meaning of my comment is exactly as I stated it. The conspiracy "commumity" seems to have a never-ending source to boast about incidents before the dust has even settled. That, to me, is disgusting.

If your intent was to raise my ire, I am sorry to admit, in this effort, you did succeed.

hey faeden hun, I'm glad you shared your dream on here. When i saw the news this morning i was like that so sounds like your dream you told me about. Also i thought alot about how you and i would have been in the underground of London today if my passport would have came last week. Sounds like you should write down your dreams so that you can look back on ones that have had some disaster or something in it to keep track of the similarities and ones that have come to pass. Love, Jo

Think on this you junior sherlock holmes: This may have just been a demonstration.

"Gee, a demonstration?!?!?! What could he mean?!?!?!"

What city was just announced as the site of the next Olympics?
HINT: the city starts with "L" and ends with "N"

This was a lesson in fear. The message being: We can strike ANYWHERE, ANYTIME and you CANNOT stop us.

Now, how many people are expected to be in london during the Olympics? Think that many will be scared away by this action? Think of the devastation that could result if these motherless cowards do strike?

You theorist pukes really make me angry. Not as angry as the terrorists who plan and execute these actions, but angry enough.

Carry on with your puerile fantasies.

-JMPD! OUT-

No one is going to shake the resolve of the British and American people...we will find those responsible and hold them accountable...life goes on for all of us and right now we should all be on the gaurd for far rightist policies and those who would use this as an opportunity to push an agenda and draconian laws...hope everyone you know is safe.


PS- when no one claimed responsibility, Bush and Blair seemed to already know it was "Al Queda"...they singled out radical islamists right from the start...without evidence. What...no one commits crimes anymore except radical islamists?

Yeah... they couldn't be taking a stab at a good guess or going on the lead that the group claimed they did it?

Well then why haven't Blair or Bush retracted those statements and offer an apology to Islamists?

A group tied to Al-Qaeda HAS claimed it dummy....*lol*.......their the only ones stupid enough too....with the American "Eagle" and the British "Lion" kicking ass and taking names all over the globe....So apologize for WHAT? Calling the kettle black?>

It was proven fictitious "dummy"...get your facts straight...

I saw the latest CBS news feed about it and also stated that the authorities are back to square one...so, Bush and Blair DID have time to apologize for scapegoating a group or race of people.

So how is it in Texas where you are in Reactionaryville? Have you gone looking for Arab folks to harass and let'em know what an American you are?

All I have to say is keep away from those musical ice cream trucks!

lol

Funny how in this post you left out radical in "Radical Islamists". No one will say "sorry" to a terrorist group for saying it might be them. Why would you? They are T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T-S!

Especially since there are so many Eurotrash and Russian terrorist groups looking for a piece of London's hide out of hatred for England. But England did support us through Bush's war crimes against the Islam faith, so this might be reactionary.

But please- please, please, please... don't feed me that "unshaken resolve" crap, because you and I both know that's a load of propoganda. The same two men who drilled that in your head have lost more of our resolve than the terrorists ever did. 9/11 united us as a countryon a rare level, then Bush turned it right around and turned us into divided, bickering children divied into three classes:

1. People who only support this war because they like the idea of legal genocide against another culture for the actions of one group, which somehow speaks for them all.

2. People who realize that Bush is a racist warmonger and want to see him at the wet nurse academy for what they see as a poorly veiled series of war crimes (zero tolerance, patriot act, failure to validate Iraq).

3. People who don't want to get involved because it means facing how rabid groups 1 and 2 have gotten, and they really want to at least look human...

Think about that before you say that line again.

Look Dodo, believe everything the CNN's construct for you. believe everything and question nothing. if they say Islamists did it, then islamists did it, after all, how can they get away with fooling the mass public mind?

Don't be a DODO, f***ing wake up....the leaders of the pack were out hunting yeterday, they hinted at us that they enjyed it. Prime Minister special meeting in the Terra cotta room calling the meeting Cobra. Somehow the future will reveal so so many shocked faces when the facts are realized......terrorist of mass destruction...when they brainwashed the peoples over a period with the silly WMD program, they hardly changed their wordings over a few weeks to stunn the public with an illusive threat. Though there were weapons of a sort, there were never any weapons made by Iraquis. The lie was sold straight and without any fancy spin on top. For many years we have been programmed by the exact same processing about terrorists. we know nothing about terrorists except from what the media force feeds us.....I realize most people would feal mass paranoia if CNN was brought down. Don't believe the f***ing hype... terrorists because of who's description.... If a terrorist organization wanted to destroy Blair or Chirac or Bush, the f***ing job is only a matter of time. security is a farce around them even today after attcks....Fools for believing they are not the real terrorists. Fools for believing in their soy...we really need to throw out our TV sets and take up knitting if we cannot judge the bullshit from the facts.....How easy is it to dupe americans.....I have witness and have been a part of 3 IRA bombings. They all seemed like pointless acts of attack with absolutely no possible gain predicted. Then why lay bombs in public places when the desired effect will happen at govt places...?

OK common sense values work better than most, if you were a terrorist and had 5 chances to make your point against the US people and country leaders via bombs, you wanted to stupidly bomb their conntry to make them stop selling nudity and profanity and other capitalist charms to Islamic children and women. where would you bomb first for the most maximum effect of getting US Uturn policies, then where would you bomb next and then where after that? I would firstly obtain congress member routines and make the goverment bloody or at least scared of it to make them feel what it's like.. Looking at Hamas, and Palastine, IRA and Al Quaeda, as well as the freedon fighters in Iraq. How many of them actively approach politicians with bomb threats these days. None, so strange that. A sniper hitting at any Royal minor representative or royal child or celebrity figure head from any european country would absolutely rock this world into thinking aout policy change. These days the public are in the majority numb. The terrorists are pawns of whom for why? or do you still believe in CNN and the politicians? when Blair began his speech yesterday, his body language was evidently stating that he was not upset and he did nt find the bombings a shock...his body mannerisms howed me that he was telling the wise or the highbrow what did actually happen. I wonder why psychological analysts do not ome up to expose Bush and Blair the way they did with Clinton and the girl....

If you really look closely you can tell that agent smith knew all along just as the architect, they knew what to expect in every one of Neo's moves before Neo. If you looked closely at the media reports over terror attacks you can see that the government leaders knew all along that terror attacks were set to happen.

Do u think that terrorists celebrate London victory on olympic 2012 for London people.

They are great.

May the Force(Terrorists) be with u

Why not make a forum and discuss with those terroists .That will be more great


"I Love u"
"Loving u"
"Just like Terrorists love Bombing"

who cares what the Islamists think? next you'll be marching along side the neo-nazis claiming nothing bad should be said about them too?

Ouch Bathory.

Blair and Bush are increasingly quagmired in new condemning evidence in an unpopular war where "fragging" is on the rise between our troops and their "contractor" superiors. I do support our troops. An event like the London bombing was needed to make a cover for a little while and maybe rush in some new rightist legislation. Oh hey...we have 2 seats open on the Supreme Court...now looks like a good time to throw a couple of fascists in there to make our journey to the dark side complete.

Your boy Bush has been found to lie so many times about such important issues concerning our lives and our future...caught red-handed...it will be no surprise to me to see how these two leaders play this thing out to their advantage...if they don't get exposed first.


Another thing...I do believe the war is corrupt and it is possible that in the future we could see riprisals from third world countries who have been screwed over by rich industrialist nations...but I don't think that is what happened in London.

why is it so hard for people to accept the fact that there are terrorist organizations out there that want to attack? its like every single damn attack has to become a conspiracy because the theorists need something new to talk about.

many people i've talked to have put the idea forward that it may be a french connection to the bombings, but i have no idea...

But the french helped bury evidence of Princess Dianas murder and her boyfreind...why would they conspire against the British and yet aid the British in a murder?

I thought the Al-Quida (i cant spell it right) claimed responsibility last night... but it could be fake.

All I know for sure is that a lot of innocent poeple are hurt,killed,injured and someone is to blame. I feel that the gov.' or someone higher up is behind it but its hard to prove and I wish I could put my finger on it, but something just does not look right, smell right or feel right to me.

Here is an intersting article I found...I really am simple, as I prefer to read only a couple paragraphs and then I tend to go form intuition, also. So if anyone is interested in reading this loooong article and suming it up for me, that would be greatly appreciated Have fun and PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL

Article for your reading pleasures

The French thing is interesting-a man called into Coast to Coast last night and put forward the view that the French were ticked about losing the hosting of the Olympics to London and so...... I doubt that would seriously be grounds for a bombing.

On another issue, does anyone ahve any links regarding the sell-off of the British pound on the market and some funny stock market things going on before the attacks occured? I've heard this speculated on C2C as well as some websites, but guilty parties have yet to be named. George Noory believes that it's more than a few things coalescing together. Perhaps confidential information was passed on to the leader sof the economic pwoers that be and they "cashed in" before teh bombs went off, who knows?

i seriously doubt the french government would ever do anything like a terrorist attack on england,or anywhere else.they are too proper,and too chicken$hit to ever start a war.he'll they can't even finish the ones they start.

I took a look at it Me Again...basically...this site and the republicans views on Al Queda are almost the same. The exception is how they percieve the war in Iraq...they believe we are losing the battle over there. Their assessment of the threat is the samre as the armys pretty much...Islamic radicals are the terrorist...they also appearantly believe in those e-mailed messages supposedly sent from Al Queda yesterday to a website...Ive seen where authorities already dismissed this lead as fictitious.

I do not agree with this site on a couple of things and one is how they percieve the war and whom they percieve our enemy to be. For a leftist site...they sure do agree with the neocons on alot of important issues but disagree with them on the unsubstantial ones...my humble opinion. Regards.

I assume you mean radical Islamic terrorists, not Islamists. Or else it's a very ignorant stereotypical remark towards all Islamic people.

I think this statement was in reference only to the group claiming responsibility for the infamous act, not the religion as a whole. I could be wrong though.

The goverment would not kill its own people like this, don't be so absurd.
It doesn't look right because innocent people died, this was a terroist attack by proabable islamic terroists. Not own our government.

How can you state that as if it were a fact? Is the gov't as a group of politicians beyond corruption and criminal activity? Can you name another legitimately formed group of people who have been proven, as a whole, to break the law with more audacity and regularity? Not each and every one, but as a group, what HAVEN'T they done, including knowing that murder will be a result of their actions, and/or was the actual intent of their actions. Pearl Harbor is now a documented case of a President intentionally acting to incite the murder of thousands of Americans. There are other known and proven examples, even the general public and mass media will acknowledge there is factual historical precedence.

My god, I never said that politicians are beyond corruption and criminal activity. What I have said is that only a fool could believe the government were behind these bombings. There is no way, within all reason, that our government would ever kill its own people in this fashion.

You are sadly deluded if you think otherwise. I am talking about the British government, I do not know or care about the American one, so you brining them into this provides little relevance and proves to me you are grasping at the straws of conspiracy theories.

Do you have a link with a credible source for this; all I've see on this subject was radical conspiracy theories with little to no merit.

Hi girty,
off topic but it's something important to know, certainly historically...the first two links have very comprehensive details of the events leading up to Pearl and they use only valid sources and documents. They also offer counter arguments that show why some people don't think Roosevelt is to blame. But the documents obtained through the FOIA such as this sample below prove beyond doubt that there were plans implemented to incite the Japanese to attack without known warnings being relayed from Washington to Hawaii.
Roosevelt
Roosevelt 2


The below video link is a real treat - it's a well made BBC produced documentary from 1989 that implicates Roosevelt through documentation released on the code breaking the US had done which proves they knew the attack was coming but the messages were sent only to Washington directly, bypassing Hawaii - and then never relayed to Hawaii! The below bold text is the synopsis provided for the video...

Sacrifice At Pearl Harbor

In this authoritative and suspenseful documentary, the BBC takes you inside the secret activities of the Americans, the British and the Japanese as each nation moved fatefully toward the "date that will live in infamy."

For nearly 50 years, the world has believed President Franklin D. Roosevelt's declaration that the Pearl Harbor attack was a completely unexpected assault on a neutral nation. Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor tells another, hidden story - using actual recording of intercepted diplomatic communications, declassified government documents, archival footage and interviews with diplomats and spies from around the world. We now know that intelligence operatives from the US and three Allied nations monitored the Japanese fleet's progress on its deadly mission to Oahu in late 1941. Yet neither Admiral Kimmell nor General Short received a word of warning that might have allowed them to avert the sacrifice of 4,000 American casualties in less than 90 minutes.

Since this video was made, there have been more documents released such as the one I posted a page of.

Thank you for providing the links; I will check them out.

You're most welcome, girty.

Back on topic, these have nothing to do with the British government.

girty - this is a link to download the BBC video (about 42 megs) as the other link I gave you is a streaming video which can have connection problems Sacrifice At Pearl - Video Download

Very sorry everyone, end of the side issue.

Back on topic again - mr. ed, I posted that only to point out that gov'ts do commit atrocious acts. But you claim British Gov'ts would not be capable of such things. How can you back up that claim? I'm not saying that they DID do it, I'm asking why you are sure they DID NOT play a role in it.

I trust our government totally, we have been committed to fighthing the war on terror. We fund the war against them. There is no reason whatsoever for the government to indulge in a conspiracy to kill its own people. No sensible reason at all.

Then you believe Blair in what he says about the Downing St. memo?

The downing street memo?

Good God man, you live in the UK and haven't heard about the Downing St. memos?
Just kidding! They are quite a bomb in Blair's trousers, for sure! From this source (one of too many to list a fraction of)...Downing St.

Will the Downing Street Memo please just go away?

For George W. Bush and Tony Blair, continuing attention -- which is slowly increasing in mainstream U.S. news media -- to the secret British-government document and to others like it (they've now all been dubbed, collectively, "the Downing Street Memos" (AP/Guardian)), has become a festering annoyance.

Michael Smith, a defense correspondent for Britain's sober daily, The Times, broke the stories about the first Downing Street Memo and, when it was later revealed, a related briefing paper for Blair. Both showed that the prime minister and his top advisers knew that going to war with Iraq without United Nations approval would be illegal, and that intelligence would have to be "fixed" (see first Downing Street Memo) to prop up their war-making policy.

Now, in his latest news report in The Times, Smith has reported that "leaked ... legal advice" to the Foreign Office (Britain's counterpart to the U.S. State Department) indicated that American and British bombing raids over southern Iraq, which began in May 2002, almost a year before the full-scale, U.S.-led attack, were illegal. (Times)

Oh I dont care about that. I supported going to war with Iraq fully, even if they didn't have any WMDs. I knew about these documents.

This proves absolutely nothing, nothing at all. This has nothing to do with the government killing its own citizens and therefore can shed no relavance on the situation at hand.