this is a topic so deep that it's just like wow and it makes u think but



wut made the universe?
could there be multiple universes?

I believe God made the universe. The universe did not coincidentally create itself, life, and resources to support life. And no I believe there's only one universe. From my understanding, the universe is considered the physical realm (cosmos) that we are in. Anything anywhere that can be sensed with any of the 5 senses is part of our universe.


Or maybe it's just all beyond our comprehension

I believe that their are already threads on this... and if it's so important why can't you at least use the courtesy to use real words?
...geez, I swear, were devolving

wut r u on abut zudo. dees r reel wurds proppa wurds yano

? who learned you too spoke

i lernded me to spok, i spok gud innit

Most places would consider this some form of spam

but not here

^same with that.

I feel so....Privelidged

If you want to start a new, "deep", topic, you really have to do better than that
I could give my opinion just by saying; Nothing and yes

its a little misleading writing "must read" in the topic and just asking the same question man has been asking since he realised he lived in a "universe".

but the only asnwer is completly beyond our omprehension and i belive nothing to do with the "god" as we know it.

i think god has something to do with it but not with everything, i think there are greater forces beyond his and beyond our comprehension...

Learn. English. And at least offer your own opinion when you make a thread...

(spoken with sarcastic overtones) wow. This topic, as richdog said, is deep. Its as if there are people on the internet without brains, who just flaot from site to site giving their retarded opinions.

If this were an interesting thread, i would stick around but i dont think this thread deserves anything more than bashing the person who started it.

the annswers to what created the universe lies in the simple yet complicated shape of a circle.

my sugjestion is to get high.. draw a circle on a piece of paper and think about it, the answers will come to you and you will be amazed.. of course i could just tell you.. but ... i dont feel like typing 1. because im high...2. because you guys need something constructive to do 3. cause ive already explained it millions of times in other forum rooms on this site.

k bye

compared to the questions that won't let me sleep at night about the universe. Those questions are like 1st grade to me... Think about these...

How can infinity exist within an infinity within an infinity

And HOW CAN THERE BE MORE THAN INFINITY!

I seriously tore some of my hair out last night.

I belive the real question should not be what created the universe... but what was there befor it....

1) Being high isnt an excuse, being lazy is.

2) I think you need something constructive to do, and i dont mean building a bong out of ducktape, tin foil, and a coke bottle.

3) Its good to know noone listens to you.



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as you can see these are all one's. Now if all these 1's represented people sitting at a computer holding down the 1 key that represented people sitting at computers holding down 1 keys, etc, etc, etc. Eventually there would be to many people to keep track of, and it would be an incomprehensible amount of people and 1's. Which is the point, there is no way to comprehend that amount of people, and thats a far cry from comprehending infinity. All you can do is realise that even if you cant see the whole picture, you can definitly see parts of it. You are sitting here reading this, wherever you are there is stuff around you, table, walls, pictures whatever. There are billions of people in the world that dont know that your house exists, just as you dont know all the things that are happening right at this exact second. So what can you do? pretend you can.

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This one represents the universe. What can you tell by looking at it? It can be broken down into smaller parts, for instance the pixels. From there it can be broken down farther and farther until eventually you get to atoms, and then protons and electrons, and then down to quirks, and then millions upon millions of more elemetary particles that make those up made of more even more fundamental particles. Eventually you make it to strings(if string theory is correct) and from there everything becomes simple. Everything is energy, everything is made of vibrating bands of energy. Even if string theory is wrong, they are definitly on the right track. Sight, hearing, touch, taste, and smell all detect the same thing in varying ways. Sight detects very fast moving vibrations such as light. Hearing detects slower, yet still fairly quick moving vibrations(sound). Touch, taste and smell detect the very slower moving vibrations, and with these combined we are able to preceive the world around us. In a literal sense our perceptions is the averaging of all the sensory input we are able to process, there are vibrations that are too fast, too slow, or too subtle for us to detect which can be tapped into given enough patience. You must listen for it, and when you can do that the mysteries of the universe become less and less inticing, because they do not need to be explained in order to be understood. Everything is one, because infinity can only exist if it loops back on itself(like the inside of a sphere, the space inside is finite, but you can travel along the edge in any direction forever). This is how our universe is shaped, with the except that it is the space that is curved. Which means should you fly straight into the edge of the universe you would not feel or see the curve, but you would be traveling along it just the same.

I don't see why so many have to 'bash' really. The questions are deep but should have been presented with more information or an opinion.

I believe in the multiverse. That each universe starts out as a 'perfect circle' or singularity. Although Singularity is visually pleasing in it's design it's rather useless until a catalyst causes symmetry breaking, the big bang. (Much like a human embryo in it's earlier stages it's symmetrical but rather usless unless something breaks the symmetry) With the breaking of this symmetry, elements, stars, planets etc are born. Actually a lot of the heavier elements that we know of today are made within certain stars.

Life is so unique and so rare that some may believe that only a God had the power to create such a thing. There are over thousands of factors that make life suitable here on earth. If one of numerous factors were to be different just by a fraction then life as we know it wouldn't have ever existed. Even the moons of other planets in our solar system contribute to our existence, (The gravitational pull) that's how elaborate the design of the universe is. Whether it was done by God's hand or Scientific probability is beyond me. But if the multiverse theory is true, life on a planet is still rare because of all the factors that make it possible, this is where probability comes in. If thousands of tiny dots of singularity exist then eventually some will have symmetry breaking and will be able to expand into a universe.

This isnt a deep topic, its a battle of two oppinions

A) time has divisions
time is a continuum

ever heard of the space-time continuum?

the universe has always existed in some form.

If it came from nothing then it will die into nothing.

If it came from nothing, then nothing must logically be something.

did you know that our mind stores information holographically?

why is this? naturally this is how it works the best, its what nature does, finds the path of least resistance... so what is the point of the universe? it exists to satisfy an equilibrium and this (reality) is the easiest way to satisfy that equilibrium.

and another thing, particles do not exist, look around, particles do not exist, only waves, points of resonance, standing energy waves... its amazing really to think we exist in a world which is only apparantly solid, not really solid.

(now speaking of quantum physics) One energy "particle" can dissappear for no reason and re-appear a short distance away, "particles" can collide and pass right through each other...

quantum physics tells us this, it is only the comfort of ignorance which allows us to ignore the facts, we are ignorant and skeptical by nature, this is the flaw of mankind.... mabye we brought it on ourselves? because society is so critical of those who are different... we need to open our eyes people, this world is not fine and dandy.

Its the limitations which are put on the universe (the laws of physics) which produce a desired outcome of our universe.

obviously we are little gods, having controll over our immediate realms, and I believe there are larger gods, like higher intelligences, who are no different then us, just more profound and well... "different" who may or may not have created our universe to produce life like us...

either way, the limitations of our universe, however random they may be, produces life BECAUSE WE EXIST AND THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE CONSTANT EVERYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE (which is a fair assumption)

God did not create the universe , if he had done then who created God? Everyone will find the answer at the last stage of their evolution , the final stage . The universe is the biggest secret known to man , once you know how it began you can use the knowledge to your advantage , thats why people evolve ! They evolve so that they are ready to learn this knowledge and use it wisely.

The human race is not yet capable of using this knowledge respectfully , this is why there is the theory of past lifes.These past lifes help us prepare for the final stage of evolution.....

I know people have not heard of any evidence "yet" and yes you might call me weird if you want but you do not have any evidence to prove me wrong...........

The universe is a vast space of nothingness in actuallity. what people THINK is the universe is only the matter and energy filling it (the galaxies and superclusters). It is impossible for people to visualize the concept of infinity which is fundamentally the size of the space. This brings about the question how can the universe go on forever there has to be an end and if there is, what is outside of it. The univeerse DOES go on foreverand just as we cannot visualize higher spacial dimensions, so it follows that we cannot this.

Someone or something had to create this whole thing, so your argument about "who created God" is not valid, or we would fall in an infinite loop, who created god? who created god's creator? and so on.. from what I've been reading and thinking lately in my opinion this is all God's conscience at work nothing exists for real and can't ever exist but "real" is subjective anyways.

Someone or something had to create this whole thing, so your argument about "who created God" is not valid, or we would fall in an infinite loop, who created god? who created god's creator? and so on


It is valid because that is exactly the point, it is impossible!

Why is it so hard to believe that the universe can exist without a 'supernatural' or 'superhuman' subconscious? Why is it that we think we are so important, that we are the main focus of the universe? Whereas in my opinion we are the universes biggest flaw. Not only do we cause so much destruction to the planet and space but we cannot find inner peace amongst our own kind. But then again, this isn't a question of morales. The universe in itself is a god hypothetically speaking. We know it exists and yet we rarely ever take the time to praise what we can see and what we know of as fact, instead we decide to praise things that cannot be proven. Human's have been doing this ever since the beginning of time because we are ignorant and when we don't know something we have to give it a label. If you research the main qualities of religion you will find that the first ones came into being because of superstition, because we didn't know how things work. Then you will come to find that religious stories are recycled throughout the time to fit that era. I don't understand why people tend to ignore this and ignore the fact that science is proving things. Although science consists of theories it's closer to the truth than religion. Theories are tested and retested, sometimes proven to be wrong but the more we discover, the more correct it will become whereas religion stems from blind faith, because it's in human's nature to think that the universe evolves around us and not the other way around.

Infinity is not a number; it is whatever is unending. We never come to the end of eternity, for instance.

Maybe the universe has always existed and always will, in a cycle of some sort. Does it then need a creator?

Since the answer to these questions is unknown, it merely provides an excuse for silly but amusing posts.

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Believe what you want , if my argument is so "invalid" can you please tell me what information you know that i don't , tell me who created the universe , how humans will evolve ? View it from this angle : Its ok for God to create the universe and all humans and creatures to live on there , but where is he now when humans are destroying "his planet Earth" , people give poor excuses for Evil in the human race by refering to Adam & Eve and the Garden Of Eden........Absolute nonsense , Its Evolution , mankind will see , destroy , learn and evolve.

The only reason you disagree with me is because you do not believe in the impossible , but your opinion is welcome...........

All Matter + All Energy in the observable universe = nothing.

Therefore everything comes from nothing.


The universe is simply one of things that happen from time to time.

You talk of approaching everything scientifically. You're mocking science itself! - That God created the universe. You know absolutely nothing about the possibilities. What if God lives in a dimension which is infinite and overlaps all the other dimensions? What if the universe expanded because God moved into our universe? If God is capable of going through in and out of dimensions, then surely this would make sense. Dimensions touching dimensions would definetally create an amount of energy which would all explain your Big Bang mombo jumbo. You people discredit the possibility that WE - humans did not evolve. The explaination is't that hard. But surely your minds are evolving. Yes, they are evolving, and slowly you are all going to have a narrow view of possibilities. Your children and your grandchildren will be just like you. If you are not willing to improve your generation by learning from the past, your children will do the same, thus your line will have a set fate if you do nothing to UNDERSTAND.

I do know something my friend , and as for knowing the possibilities , i am one ..............

God "recreated" Itself before creating the Universe. God had to realize It was God.

HUH?

I dont think our brains are ready to comprehend the universe. It would be like teaching a dog physics and calculus. Their brains can't grasp it.

All physics and mathematics aside, and to make a long story short: Nothing realized it was Nothing by finding a "part of Itself" in infinite movement, therefore, becoming what you may call a consciousness. It began to change dimensions to get back to It's starting point. But at the same point where it "realized" It was moving, It also, over time made a choice to recreate Itself.