Here's a very interesting new article relating to the discoveries and research of alleged Pleisiosaurs around the world, from the Japanese sea creature carcass, to the famous Loch Ness Monster.

In April 1977, the nets of a Japanese fishing ship snagged a rotting two-ton, 32-foot monster-like carcass off New Zealand which many believed to be a plesiosaur. Professor Yoshinori Imaizumi, of Japan’s National Science Museum remarked, “It’s a reptile, and the sketch looks very much like a plesiosaur. It seems to show that these creatures are not extinct after all.” But in contrast to petrified fossils from 65-plus million years ago, this was a fleshy carcass, sans bones. Tissue samples were taken, and the carcass unceremoniously dumped back into the sea lest it contaminate the mackerel catch. Later, these samples were found to yield the same ratio of the amino-acid tyrosine to other amino acids as does the blue shark’s fin. It seems that shark bodies decompose in such a manner that they come to resemble a monstrous plesiosaur, and this sort of subsequent-mistaken identity has occurred on many occasions.

The entire article can be read by clicking here :

http://www.fatemag.com/article.phtml?id=241

That kind of makes you wonder what else is living in the deep waters of the oceans and other mass bodies of water.  Perhaps, not only with a single situation, but perhaps there a dozens of others simular creatures that have existed for far longer than humans, but have thought to have died out.

Just a thought...

FarvMLarion

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Here's a thought: I have heard that woolly mammoths have been discovered frozen in ice and preserved well. I wonder if there are specimens of sea creatures frozen into the ice caps etc and preserved, only to be dumped back into the sea as the ice melts. Then they would decompose in the warmth and float around...
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Loonboy,

Interesting theory!

Odin Supreme

Just to add what Farv said, the oceans are so vast, in terms of area and depth, I think there could be, and ARE, many different creatures yet to be discovered and previously discovered creatures thought to be extict. The discovery of the Giant Squid not too long ago I think adds credibility to that assumption.

Homer  :sj

Yeah they are finding new species all the time though most of them are on the small side. As Homer says the Squids are the most interesting new species they have found recently.

.....hmm yeah, interesting theory there.....and of course, (not related to sea creatures I know) but don't they say that there are something like 1,000's of yet to be discovered species of life within the rain forests....

That's interesting. Isn't that how one of the "ice-man" subjects was discovered, having emerged from thawing ice? Or was that the wooly mammoth? Either way, that seems to be an entirely feasible line o' logic.

What about giant squid? Have we found any living ones? Just dead, decomposing flesh, right? Who is to say that they haven't just thawed out and washed away, landing on British beaches or wherever it happens to be...

-Steven

Crow,
Speaking of the rain forests, the newly (June 1996) identified monkey (mico anão/dwarf cebus), no bigger than a squirrel, is the sixth primate species discovered by scientists in Brazil betweeen 1990-1996.

[glow=red,2,300]Homer :sj

Giant squid have only been found in decomposing flavour so far. but there is a thread here abouts on a new species of squid just discovered which are quite large...  

Where is this mysterious thread?

-Test Bear

PS Has anyone else had typing problems on the board lately? My kbard has been fine but in these little boxes it acts like molasses has been spewed in the little cracks....

Test Bear
Here is the thread  http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=crypt;action=display;num=990642329   Most of the thread discusses Giant Anacondas, but there is part of it that talks about the Giant Squid.
And I haven't experienced any technical difficulties.

[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj

TestBear,

  I've also encountered a problem since the forum upgrade, and is probably related to the fact that I use an older version of Internet Explorer (4.0) for my browser. You may want to check your version. Another thing for you to check would be your connection speed (are you using a dialup modem? 56k? 36k?), which might be causing the problem. There might also a bandwidth problem with your ISP during peak periods. (Lord, do I sound like a computer geek, or what?)  :s04 Anyway, hope this helps.  :-/

Magikman  :sg

my keyboard is fine and i have a 56k modem but i also have IE 5.0.

Maybe you should d/l the latest IE which is IE 6. It's about 20Mb so if you have a fast connection you can d/l it or just leave it on all day if you have a slow connection.

i used to have IE 6 (before i fomatted my computer) and it has a few bugs but it has a new feature that you can report the errors to microsoft so they can fix it


Now i'm starting to sound to sound like some of my friends - who are computer geeks

I think you both sound like geeks :s2   No offense, it's just that I'm so clueless on the technical aspects of computers :P

               
               I wish I was a computer geek!!  Then I would understand what you all are talking about.  You've heard about 'MURPHY'S LAW'?  That was written for me!
I can't wait to set up the new chat room!!  NOT!!!  :s9
It may take from now until Wednesday,  but I'll figure it out (I will keep repeating this,  like a mantra)  ;D

            KC

ROFLMAO  :s2

Place your bets now.....how long will it take Nora to enter the chatroom.  :st

Tommy

:s2 ;D

Here's another bet for you Tommy. Who will figure it out first, Nora or me? Because I don't get it either. I won't make any Wednesday chats, which gives me plenty of time to be ready by Sunday. :P

[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj

:s9

Computer geeks and such, at times it almost sounds as if being a computer geek, or 'nerd' is a bad thing.  But then again, what is bad about it.  I guess that this topic could turn into a mass dicussion about society and other meaningless topics and conversations.

:s3

Hmmm, perhaps I'm rambling, so...

Farv Michael Larion

We don't allow rambling on this forum, Farv.  You know better than that ;D

             

               Homer,

        That's not fair!  Taking til Sunday...didn't I say that first?    :-/
         Anyway,  I think today I was on the right street,  maybe the right building,  but darned (see, no potty mouth this time) if I can find the right room!!  I was this close   :sd.  

             


          OKAY EVERYBODY!!
                 I just went into a room (I have NO IDEA where!)  but there was no one there...unless you guys were hiding!!  I could have sworn I heard a snicker :s8
Very funny,  Magik!  Or was that you,  Tommy?  You put all your money on Homer?? :s01  AAAHH!  It's a conspiracy!!!  
         Hey Tommy,  don't worry,  it's still early!!! :D

:se  Well, my memory these days just isn't the same...   :se

Farv Michael Larion

Nora,

If you're using the unexplainedmirc.exe or unexplainedmirc.zip version of the program then you are definately on the right server - because I took all the other servers off the list to avoid confusion.  ;D

The room you are looking for is #unexplained - you will be able to tell when you get there because the topic will be something like "Unexplained Live Chat Sundays & Wednesdays 8PM GMT".

You can reach the room either by typing /join #unexplained in the text prompt at the bottom of the screen, or by clicking on it in the channels list box that comes up as soon as you've connected.

:sk

             SaRuMaN!

         Again,  thank you,  thank you,  thank you!  I finally made it didn't I?  Wow,  what a trip into cyberspace! (see,  spelled it right this time Dalia! ;D)  
Since I've taken up this subject space with so much of my ****,  I thought the least I could do was bring it back to the subject it's titled for!  Like the giant squid,  I saw there was going to be a special on them and other mysterious creatures on Discovery.   Alas,  I didn't catch the date or time,  but I'm fairly certain it's in March.  I hope it's not a repeat!   :s9

            *Correction on previous post*
     
     Okay,  so I still haven't found any news on the program,  but I did find a report about giant squid,  on the Animal Planet website.  Here is the address(?):
         http://animal.discovery.com/news/reu/20011217/squid.html    
     
       (if someone already reported this, sorry!) :s6
             KC

I'm sorry - but it IS possible to know too much about computers and not be geeky.

Now the question is, was my last statement  meant to convince you guys or to convince myself
:s2

Well, hmmm... :sn

Let me see...  If you were talking to yourself, well then, I would have to say that it sounds like fun, but that usually doesn't work on my behalf to convince myself to the contrary of what I normally think.

If your intentions were to convince us, then, hmmm...have fun! :sm

Farv Michael Larion   :sj

Oh God, I'm tired...

And so with one innocent question in an attempt to ease the ascent into truth, Test Bear manages to birth a mysterious and dangerous creature... a tangent. And as this beast grows bigger and bigger, the plesiosaurs is doomed to fade away from us.... and eventually is doomed to be forgotten...

:s4

What would be the term for killing a species which may already be dead?

Tangents, love'm
Yep.
Love'm

I think my question was more a rhetorical one but it stands nevertheless

Now what were we talking about?

Oh yes, tangents.

Love'm  ;D

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What would be the term for killing a species which may already be dead?

Fruitless Homicide?
Carcasside?
PixieAssassin?

Magikman  :D

Ooh... carcaside has a ring to it. Now that there is a word for killing the plsiosaur, I say we have a nice little going away party, and say some kind words for it.

"I remember the first time that I met plesiosaur. What a pleasant guy..."

Once I knew someone in school who was supposed to do a project about communication amongst early primates. Well, he ended up doing a project on music in Egypt. Now that was a tangent.

-Test Bear

btw, the link for the new species of squid that was found is HERE

(if the password screen comes up, just keep pressing cancel)  :sh

Tommy

:s08 CARCASIDE! :s08 sounds like a good name for a heavy metal band :s01

hehe - in a cheesey Spinal Tap sorta way!

Speaking of Giant Squid, I hope to acquire a lot of baby Giant Squids...then maybe sell then on ebay :)

An intersting article about captured baby Giant Squids clickhere[glow=blue,2,300]

However much i don't believe in animals being held unneccessarily in captivity, the posssibilty of actually finding out once and for all about the giant squid does capture the imagination. I imagine they'll be able to work out once and for all how big they can grow to for starters. I think that is what interests all of us here most!

However it's quite possible that the the Giant Squid wouldn't reach it's full size potential in captivity, and that their size could be determined by their environment. Given the vastness of the oceans, their potential size would never be realized in captivity. Just a thought.

[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj

              I saw the program a few nights ago,  and even though they captured several 'juveniles',  none of them made it back to port.  But after seeing how tiny they are in the beginning of life,  it's so hard to imagine their ability (captive or not),  to grow to be GIANTS!!
Like knowing dinosaurs came from eggs!!  :s01

We've discussed quite a bit about the Giant Squid, but there has been a recent finding of the largest octopus ever seen off the coast of New Zealand. It was about 13ft(4metres) and a weight of about 154-165 lbs(70-75 kg). For more information CLICK HERE

              I would like to have seen a picture of the bright red octopus,  instead of the giant squid again.  (or did I miss something?)  

       

KC,

 Here's a picture of the octopus is question. Not very revealing, but still;

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/27/octopus.nz/index.html

Magikman  :)

O.K. so now we have two links to the exact same article with the exact same picture. Does anyone else want to post the same thing so we can have three?

This is the same article, but has a different picture. CLICK HERE

3 would be "Divine"
After all, it is Good Friday today :s6

                I guess the first article meant to show the picture of the octopus - but it wasn't developed yet!  ;D

KC,

 Here's a link to a better picture of the octopus in question;

CLICK HERE

Magikman  :s02

hmmmmm, weeeeirrdddd  :s4

KC,
That's the second time Magik posted the EXACT SAME LINK that I have, and both times he was posting to the attention of you. Either Magik doesn't take the time to actually LOOK AT the link I provide, or he thinks you would have an easier time understanding the one he provides, even though they are THE EXACT SAME THING.  ::)

          Homer,
               Maybe Magik thinks I'm confused about the articles.  (they were confusing).  It seems that the first article you posted had a picture of a squid (which was caught in the same area).  So I commented on it being nice if they showed an octopus.  Then the next ones showed different pictures with the same article (basically).  Silly thing is,  they all came from CNN.  That's why I made the comment about the picture not being developed yet.  Think about it like this, I can very often confuse people (it rubs off).  
                So thanks to both of you for the info!  :s1