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I am on Elf Tails.
I dont care about spoilers, but wiill someone please tell me if harry ron and hermionie learn how to Apparate?!?!?!?
Lol I haven't been reading as muich as I should, I bet 10000000$$ I am done tommorow or the next day

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Sort of Johnny. Hermoine passes her test with flying colours, Ron and Harry both know how to do ti, but don't pass their tests. Harry because he's too young, Ron because he leaves an eyebrow behind.

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So when they are of age, they can't apparate (ron and harry I mean)

No. It means that Ron will re-take his test in a couple months, and Harry will be able to actually take the test when he turns 17.

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But can they take the test outside of the schools organization?

I have no idea.
Didn't it say somewhere in the book that Harry was going to take the test over the summer, and Ron would take it with him too?

I guess that wont be happening now.

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If Hogwarts does close, I will be so sad! Harry has a mission like you said, but the other magic kids need to be trained.

Hey, can we make a thread for those who have finished the book, so that the story isn't ruined for anyone?

I was quite surprised by Snape being the Half-Blood prince. I honestly never even considered it. I never liked Snape, and I do still think he has some sort of vampire connection of some kind, but I never expected him to be Voldemort's man. I do think he was not kidding and I do think Dumbledor is not coming back.

Can't say I liked Harry/Ginny, but then I am biased (Harry/Hermione for me).

In regards to horcruxes, I believe the last Horcrux to be the scar on Harry's head.

That's a pretty good guess aquatus.

Star, i'm gonna change the title of this thread to make it a spoiler topic, so we can speak freely.

Yes, I like that idea too. But how would they release his soul? Would Harry have to die?

EDIT: Remember, it is advisable not to use living things as Horcruxes, and Voldemort intended to kill Harry, so what happens then?

Maybe a part of Voldemort accidentally split and made Harry a Horcrux. If Harry has a part of Voldemorts soul it would explain the Parselmouth, the powers, etc.

Ah yes, of course! But Harry must have so much good in him that it over powers the evil, perhaps giving him the power to kill Voldemort!

Well, he can love, and apparently that's the strongest power there is!

So cliche, yet so sweet and true. Fits perfectly in the story, I think.

Actually, Voldemort killed Harry's parents, and it is assumed that he attempted to kill Harry as well, but really, what evidence is there of that?

I believe that when Voldemort heard the prediction, he made sure that Harry was neutralized by making him a part of the equation. Harry would not be able to kill Voldemort because killing Voldemort would mean his own death. Similarly, I do not think Voldemort would have even considered the possibility that a baby half-blood would be able to overpower even just a part of his soul.

But why then in Goblet, and in Pheonix, would Voldemort try so hard to kill Harry?

I don't think it would really make any difference if Voldemort's horcrux was walking around Hogwarts, or buried six feet under. We already know the object doesn't have to be living, and, if Riddle's diary is any indication, they can take quite a beating before giving up the ghost, so to speak.

No one would be surprised at Snape being a vampire?

It's definately a good theory i'll give you that!

I've actually thought that often. (Bear in mind, I haven't read this latest book, so I don't know what sort of new evidence has been brought up.) Rowling has always made a point to stress how sallow and pale Snape is, he seems to be oily and sinister. Plus, his interactions with Lupin (another "creature of the night") in the 3rd book seemed oddly paired when he was administering his potions. Not just that Dumbledore had forced Sanpe to do it, it seemed more like they shared some sort of unwilling bond.

Just something I had been thinking...

Ok, I am leaving this thread and NOT READING ANYMORE until I get my own copy.

God, I knew I shouldn't have read through this topic. But since I already know the significant parts of the story, can someone explain what in the hell happened to Dumbledore's hand? I read up to the part after the pensieve where Dumbledore refused to explain to Harry what happened to his hand for about the sixth time.

He got cursed when he was destroying Voldemort's ring horcrux.

I was quite chuffed that I worked it out about half way through



I hope Dumbledore isn't coming back, and doesn't aid Harry in ghost form either - it'd be a cop out if that does happen, just copying Star Wars and LotR.

But I don't like the way Snape has turned out to be on the wrong side, I was convinced that just as everyone finally believed he was still a death eater he'd step in and save the day, maybe sacrificing himself in the prosess. Which I suppose is still possible.... I also can't help wondering if Dumbledore intended things to happen as they did, due to some sort of destiny thingy.



Interesting idea

And the big question is: who is R.A.B.? As has already been mentioned, Regulus Black is a possiblity. But isn't he dead?

The other, even bigger question, is why are grown adults discussing a children's book that they've read within days of it being published?

I wouldn't exactly call it a childrens book, because there are plenty of things in the book that children wouldn't be able to understand. And childrens books aren't usually murder through and through. I like the idea of the scar being a horcrux. Kinda scary though, because then Harry would have to kill himself to kill Voldemort. Of course that's probably what Rowling was trying to do. Lemme tell you the seventh book is gonna be a heavy book.... the end of all we've ever known.

Within days? I was done by the evening of the first night.

Harry Potter, as one of my teacher's once described it, is Pablum for the mind. Its hardly literature. It contains no infinite complexities, or deep, philosophies. It is simple, basic, and easily digested.

And yet, it is inspirational. I conjures forth a beautiful and nostalgic world, one so close, so easy to reach, yet so utterly beyond us forever. It involves us throughly with our anti-heroes, with a young boy thrust unwillingly into a destiny chosen by others, a young girl who has driven herself to excel in ways most of us envy, and a young man who is completely, utterly, absolutely as normal as you and me, yet still walks with giants as an equal, without ever realizing it.

We wish it were true. Oh, how we wish it to be so! Our world, with our infinite universe, with, what is it, 11 dimensions so far? Stars so large as to be incomprehensible, a planet so immense we haven't even begun to understand it yet...but it isn't enough. All the magic of quantum physics, all the mysteries of archeology, all the mysticism of our organic world, none can compare with a simply flick and twist, 'wingardium leviosa'. That is magic of the finest kind. That is the wonderful magic of fiction. That is the power that can draw an ordinary reader into a fabulous tale, give us respite for a few hours from this muggle existance of ours, and once the book is put down, walk over to the windown and, just for a moment, expect to see a young boy riding a feathered lion through the air.

Lol use Neosporin Scar Cream on his head and Voldemort dies...lol!

I am on the Pheonix Lamenent I will be done within the next 3 hours because I got stuff to do, like be on UM. I think Malfoy is going to join the good guys. And we all know Dumbledore is going to 'pull a Gandalf' and come back.

i always get sad cuz i always finish the book in like a day or two after i get it, but i cant stop reading it.

In in the end of the book Dumbeldore's portrait appears in his office. Will this be able to talk to Harry? When Sirius' uncle ( I think) hears about Sirius' death he is sad and goes to Grimmauled place.
Do you think the Dumbeldore's portrait will help?

probably.... the BIG question is WHO IS THE NEW HEADMASTER? Oh god I shouldn't have postes.. i have got a few pages to go... It probably tells

nope it doesn't say. I'll bet they bring in somebody evil that is on Voldemorts side. that is, if the school even opens up next year. Since they don't have Snape in there they'll try to get somebody else in, but they might just put Professor McGonagall(sorry I can't spell) because it would be really hard to bring in somebody that they trust.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/4697779.stm

Well, If you are gonna buy the book like me, be careful, 'cause people were complaining that there were MISSING CHAPTERS ! I heard it on CNN. And I think thats why most of you have less pages.

or it might just be different font sizes.

lol... Anyway IM DONE! best book ever!!!
Lol I say Best Book Ever for EVERY book I read...
I hope Hogwarts doesn't open! The we can have more books!!!

Hi I am new to this site....but I have to start somewhere so....why not on a thread I am into!!..
I finished the book yesterday and am DYING to talk about it!! no one I know have finished it...
I totally agree with the scar being the last Horcruxe!! That makes since to me. I was crying like a baby when Dumbledore died....the whole RAB thing is really bugging me....and I still don't get why Tonks was in Hogwarts?? and How someone as simple as Darco could pull all this off with out some one wiser helping him??

Draco had Snape helping him. Snape is wiser than him. But I'm glad that it showed the softer side of him when he's crying.

Ok, finished it yesterday. Whoo-hoo.

Small gripe: Did anyone else feel the Harry/Ginny felt very tacked-on and out of place? It was almost like Rowling was forced into adding it or something. I don't know...I just don't really care for the way she is writing about the teenagers and relationships. It doesn't seem as realistic as they get older...like she is trying to hard to get them snogging around.

hmm... who knows? I kinda doubt that Ginny would have kissed Harry good night if it was in real life.... o well.

I thought the Harry/Ginny couple was rushed. It was as though J.K needed Harry to have a girlfriend before number 7.

Wishful thinking. JKR said she would only do seven books.

I think it was completely realistic. Everything about Harrys relationships with his friends and girls he likes reminds me completely of my own teenagehood.

Ha ha...yeah, I don't mean the snogging part. THAT'S very normal. I just mean the way it is unfolding seems thrown together. I don't know...maybe I am just not used to the ideas of them getting older or something. Like I said, it was a small gripe.

They're turning 17. I think it's highly unusual they've only kissed a few times each, and had the odd makeout.
Rowling in my opinion is doing an excellent job of putting teenage romances into the story without making it completely gross.

I know, I know...Geez, now I feel like I sound like my mom.

I think I'm just aggravated Ron and Hermione keep up with the silly jealousy games.

I thought she did a great job with the teen "snogging".... I felt 17 again...you know do you like me like me or like like me like me??

Draco wouldn't let Snape know all the details...i don't think he knew about the cabinet at all.... I still think someone else is involved?? about Draco crying, he showed to me he really loves his mom and is really freaked out with his whole "task"...

I dunno about that, I think Dumbledore gave his orders to Snape, they way he gave them to Harry. He knew if Draco couldn't pull off the killing, then Draco would die, if Draco dies, Snape dies, and possibly Lucius and Narcissa.

I'm willing to bet that Dumbledore seemed to have known all along about Draco, and played the fool when it came down to Snape and Dumbledore. I could always picture, even a very weak Dumbledore, not losing his cool. He wasn't afraid of death or dying at all.

I did get a little bored with Ron and Hermoine constantly bickering. God, it's been like that since the first book!!





I'm not so sure.
Why would Snape have died if Draco died? Dumbledore would not have scarificed himself, i don't think he thought Snape would kill him.

it is just such a vicious circle!!! How long do we have to wait for book 7!!??

Dumbledore must of known something reallllllyyyy great about Snape and Draco to sacrifice himself!! Did he seem to plead with Snape at the end?? Was he pleading for Snape to do what Draco couldn't or was he asking him to help him escape???

There are two senarios here.
The first is the obvious one, that Dumbledores trust in Snape was misplaced, and Snape killed Dumbledore because he is bad, then went to join the Death Eaters with Malfoy. All the badguys win: Malfoy lives, Snape lives, and Voldemort is happy with this turn of events.

Or the second. Dumbledore actually asked Snape to kill him, so that Snape could keep his cover and poor Malfoy wouldn't have to be killed by Voldemort. So Snape is still a good guy, but he killed Dumbledore to show his loyalty to Voldemort, as well as save himself and Draco.