BurnSide
Jul 27 2005, 11:40 PM
Yes they do, it's said in the book.
saladins follower
Jul 28 2005, 12:47 AM
wut page
BurnSide
Jul 28 2005, 12:58 AM
I don't remember the exact page.

Ron says it. He explains to Harry that Fred and George tried to get Ron to make an Unbreakable Vow when he was young, and his parents stopped them. Then Harry asks what happens if an Unbreakable Vow is broken, and Ron says 'you die'.
Feenix Fire
Jul 28 2005, 01:28 AM
they talk about it at the beginning of chapter 16. pg.325. Ron says "you die" on pg. 326.

i must be really bored!
BurnSide
Jul 28 2005, 01:39 AM
haha thanks for looking that up.
saladins follower
Jul 28 2005, 01:51 AM
QUOTE(Feenix Fire @ Jul 28 2005, 01:28 AM)
they talk about it at the beginning of chapter 16. pg.325. Ron says "you die" on pg. 326.

i must be really bored!
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damn no life
j/k thx for lookin it up
AztecInca
Jul 28 2005, 06:27 AM
Anyone have any theories on who this R.A.B character could be?!?!? As Xyfer said, its bloody driving me crazy!
saladins follower
Jul 28 2005, 10:41 AM
my guesses are sirius black.....or harrys fathere ::no way ::
saladins follower
Jul 28 2005, 10:43 AM
oh yeah.... wut wus i gonna say
is it possible that the killing of harrys parents did not happen.
and that neville is the chosen one.
Red-eye Dragoon
Jul 28 2005, 11:56 PM
QUOTE(saladins follower @ Jul 28 2005, 02:43 AM)
oh yeah.... wut wus i gonna say
is it possible that the killing of harrys parents did not happen.
and that neville is the chosen one.
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I doubt that.
I think R.A.B is Sirius' bro Regulus Black. The whole locket thing in book 5 makes sense. And I remember Sirius saying something about his brother turning against Voldemort and being killed by him.
I personally think that Snape is evil, but i could be wrong and he's just doing what Dumbledore told him to do. I was really shocked when he killed Dumbledore.

I still hadn't fully accepted Sirius' death.
The Harry/Ginny thing is a bit late but good none the less. Too bad it had to end so soon.
Lupin/Tonks was surprising, but still better than when Harry thought that Tonks had a thing for her dead cousin.
Also Book 7 better be pretty d--m long if its goin to be the last. I was hoping for The Half-Blood Prince to be as long as book 5. I can't believe that theres only one more book left in the series. On one hand I can't wait to read book 7, on the other I'm dreading the end of the series. Hopefully JKR will add a few more to the series.
And if she doesn't we can always make her...
BurnSide
Jul 28 2005, 11:57 PM
I know what you mean mate.
That last page is going to be probably the best and worst page i'll ever read.
AztecInca
Jul 29 2005, 06:53 AM
^I agree, its great reading the final book and finding out everything finally, with the usual final showdown, but on the other hand you don`t want it to end, especially such an amazing series as this!
saladins follower
Jul 29 2005, 06:27 PM
who knows after book 7 she might branch out and write wut happens to every one after hogwarts
nick_fury
Jul 29 2005, 07:30 PM
QUOTE(saladins follower @ Jul 29 2005, 07:27 PM)
who knows after book 7 she might branch out and write wut happens to every one after hogwarts

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After 7 I doubt she'll ever write a book again in her life, and let's face it she won't need to. I know I wouldn't in her position, too much pressure to top Potter.
AztecInca
Jul 30 2005, 06:30 AM
^Good point, she would have to constantly have to deal with the pressure of topping her Potter books and that would just about be impossible and with all the money she is earning she could never write another book ever again. It will trully depend upon her love of writing!
Mr Ed
Jul 30 2005, 05:16 PM
How do you know it will end with 7?
Educated guess or fact?
I am guessing an educated guess.
AztecInca
Jul 31 2005, 01:20 AM
^Well she has said that there will be no more Harry Potter books after number 7, so I`m just going on that!
nick_fury
Jul 31 2005, 02:17 PM
Yup, that's when he leaves school. I guess it's good she's ending it there or we could have a good 50 more books following him through the rest of his life.
Book 49, Harry Potter and the zimmerframe of El-Rahib
Talon
Aug 1 2005, 12:53 PM
Pirate Chinese Potter books sold
Unauthorised Chinese versions of the latest Harry Potter book have been sold in Beijing, three months before the official translation is published.
The English language version of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was released around the world on 16 July.
Sold for 20 Yuan (£1.40), the unofficial Chinese version was said to omit paragraphs and contain errors.
Thousands of fans have also posted their own German translations of the book onto an unofficial Potter website.
Author JK Rowling's boy wizard Harry Potter is wildly popular in China, where he is known as "Ha-li Bo-te".
Foreign companies say unofficial versions of goods such as books, movies and designer clothes cause them to lose billions of pounds in potential sales in China.
Action omitted
Published by People's Literature Publishing House in China, the official English-language hardcover Harry Potter books were sold in Beijing for the equivalent of £11.90.
The unofficial translation omitted several paragraphs of action and contained some mistranslations, such as swapping the original word "immortal" for "mortal".
In 2003, the Chinese publisher tried to thwart piracy by rushing out its translation of previous instalment, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, 10 days before its scheduled release.
A spokesman for Rowling's London agent, Christopher Little, said it had successfully taken action against Chinese pirates but declined to give further details.
Potter readers have posted their own international translations of the latest book onto fan websites, with thousands of German versions posted fewer than 48 hours after its English-language publication.
To avoid threats of legal action, fans pledged not to distribute their translations to any third parties.
On China's Tsinghua university website, a fan writing under the name Woodchuckle was so upset by Rowling's ending that he wrote and posted his own.
The university site administrator said it had deleted several postings which contained illegal electronic versions of the book.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/ente...rts/4734161.stm
BurnSide
Aug 1 2005, 07:36 PM
Rowling has offically said many many times that the 7th book will be the last Harry Potter book.
She has also said, however, that she may continue to release some side-books like her two already released, 'Quidditch through the Ages' and 'Magical Monsters and where to find them' or something like that.
TaintedDoughnuts
Aug 4 2005, 05:37 PM
The way Harry was talking by the end of the book, it sounds like she's gonna make a couple more, not just year 7... I forgot the exact quote, and my book's out in our motorhome, but didn't he say he's never going back to Hogwarts and that he's going to find all the horcruxes, and he could take 1,2, or even 5 more years? It was something like that...
BurnSide
Aug 4 2005, 06:43 PM
There will be only one more book.
As i just said, Rowling has said it many, many times.
JennRose
Aug 4 2005, 07:52 PM
QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 4 2005, 01:37 PM)
The way Harry was talking by the end of the book, it sounds like she's gonna make a couple more, not just year 7... I forgot the exact quote, and my book's out in our motorhome, but didn't he say he's never going back to Hogwarts and that he's going to find all the horcruxes, and he could take 1,2, or even 5 more years? It was something like that...
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I think she is setting him up to be killed off, honestly. That way she won't ever have to worry about coming back and adding more books to it...the hero will be gone.
Personally, I think the last holocrux will either be Harry, his scar, or his eyes (bc his green eyes are said to be very important). So he will have to destroy himself in orger to destroy Voldemort.
BurnSide
Aug 4 2005, 08:05 PM
Voldemort knew of the prophacy and decided it was about Harry Potter. So Voldemort decided that, instead of killing Harry, he would make Harry a Horcrux. That way Harry would never be able to defeat Voldemort while he lived, and even if Harry did die then it didn't matter because at least the only one who could kill Voldemort, would be dead. So Voldemort killed James Potter to create the Horcrux, and then used Harry as the Horcrux object. He never intended to kill Lily, but did so because she got in the way.
_hAiLO_
Aug 5 2005, 04:08 PM
Dudes, I heard John Williams was not going to Compose the music for Harry Potter 4!
http://imdb.com/name/nm0002354/Instead, Patrick Doyle will score the music.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0236462/
BurnSide
Aug 5 2005, 04:09 PM
It wont be Harry Potter without the Harry Potter music.
_hAiLO_
Aug 5 2005, 04:14 PM
People are hoping that Patrick will stick to John William's style of the music. So many people have adapted to the music they heard from movie 1 through 3. And I think its called 'Hedwigs Theme' that everyone would recognize as Harry Potter music.
I sure hope he does stick with that same lick we hear everytime you go to the movie theatres...
Here's the lick:
http://www.8notes.com/school/riffs/piano/h...ter.asp?play=on
TaintedDoughnuts
Aug 5 2005, 05:45 PM
QUOTE(JennRose @ Aug 4 2005, 12:52 PM)
I think she is setting him up to be killed off, honestly. That way she won't ever have to worry about coming back and adding more books to it...the hero will be gone.
Personally, I think the last holocrux will either be Harry, his scar, or his eyes (bc his green eyes are said to be very important). So he will have to destroy himself in orger to destroy Voldemort.

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Wow you guys really think deep into this book, don't you?

So Harry will have to destroy himself to save a bunch of people... doesn't this sound like something to you? *cough* Jesus *cough*
I thought the end was pretty sad, the way that Dumbledork died. I heard that some kids had to get psychiatric help because of it.
BurnSide
Aug 5 2005, 05:50 PM

There are hundreds of thousands of stories where the main good guy sacrifices himself to save the ones he loves.
Frodo was prepared to sacrifice himself to destroy the one ring and save middle earth. Is he jesus!?
ABOTU
Aug 5 2005, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Aug 5 2005, 01:50 PM)
Frodo was prepared to sacrifice himself to destroy the one ring and save middle earth. Is he jesus!?

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I hope not....
psychiatric help!?!?
it's a character in a book geezz.
I think if they should bring anybody back to life it should be Sirius since they talk all about the veil and yadda yadda. I think it would kind of be messed up to bring Dumbledore back. What if he died to save Harry like his mom did so "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" can't kill him. or maybe, this is farfetched but it's a hope, Dumbledore created a Horcrux. Even though it's supposed to be for dark wizards it's also for powerful ones..... just a thought
BurnSide
Aug 5 2005, 06:51 PM
A good theory. I never thought about it.
Doubful though.
One thing everyone is forgetting is Dumbledore WILL be in the 7th book. He'll be able to give Harry advice and talk to him as well as whoever the next headmaster will be.
Dumbledore is the moving painting now.
TaintedDoughnuts
Aug 5 2005, 08:13 PM
QUOTE(A Believer of the Unexplained @ Aug 5 2005, 11:12 AM)
I hope not....
psychiatric help!?!?
it's a character in a book geezz.
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But, I guess children love Dumbledork, he was one of the more popular characters. But all of a sudden he dies, and the way J.K. worded his funeral, can tramatize(sp?) some kids. Besides, they need to be told it's just a book
BurnSide
Aug 5 2005, 08:16 PM
I wouldn't consider books 5 or 6 to be childrens books really.
ABOTU
Aug 5 2005, 10:01 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Aug 5 2005, 02:51 PM)
A good theory. I never thought about it.
Doubful though.
One thing everyone is forgetting is Dumbledore WILL be in the 7th book. He'll be able to give Harry advice and talk to him as well as whoever the next headmaster will be.
Dumbledore is the moving painting now.

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I didn't think it would happen, but you wanna be able to hope you know? Also I really want to know what it would be like to talk to a painting of somebody you cared about. weird.
BurnSide
Aug 5 2005, 10:04 PM
Sure would be a little worrysome.
I wonder how the painting works. Does the Dumbledore painting still have it's memories from life, up to when it died?
Megalomania
Aug 7 2005, 08:14 AM
In the last book, I think Harry will have a fatal heart attack, then Hogwarts will go down the plughole...
It makes so much sense!
All those chocolate frogs can't be good for a teenager.
*glares at Freddo*
Uteromind
Aug 7 2005, 11:17 AM
OK since no one will read my thread. I'll state my theory. Harry Potter is the last Horcrux. It only makes (tragic) sense that he has to die to destroy Voldermort. I also think that someone close to Harry will sacrifice themselves to destroy Voldermort
ames2787
Aug 7 2005, 11:37 AM
I read the book when I was on my holiday in Paris, and I was shocked by the ending, I had to read the paragraph with the death in again, to make sure it was really true, I didn't really think Snape would be evil after all. All the theories on here, are very logical and are interesting to read, I guess we'll have to wait til the next one.
I still think children could read 5 and 6, cos although they are dark in many ways, children need to understand the ways of the world, and this would be a good way to go about it, cos lets face it we can't sugarcoat the world for the kiddies, cos they will be naive when it comes to adult hood.
Although J.K. Rowling has stated that the 7th book really will be the last one, who knows she may change her mind, after all it is a womans prerogative! Although I don't think she will to be honest, cos it would seem a bit hypocritical, although she may do some sideline ones. I do agree that Harry probably will die so that he can't be brought back, and as he's so young, you can't exactly do prequels, cos they would be before he was a wizard and would just be boring, and to be honest prequels about the whole Voldemort affair would be pointless as it's already covered in the books the whole backstory.
That's it from me!
Ames x
ABOTU
Aug 7 2005, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(Uteromind @ Aug 7 2005, 07:17 AM)
OK since no one will read my thread. I'll state my theory. Harry Potter is the last Horcrux. It only makes (tragic) sense that he has to die to destroy Voldermort. I also think that someone close to Harry will sacrifice themselves to destroy Voldermort
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If you go back and read what other people have been saying, it's pretty much the same thing....
BurnSide
Aug 7 2005, 02:45 PM
Uteromind, 'your' theory has been stated about 50 times and discussed in full in the topic. Please read the whole thing if you're going to post.

I'm actually reading the book through for the second time now. It's funny you know, with Professor Trelawny. She has actually, never, EVER, been wrong.
For example, when Harry is hiding from her earlier in the book, she is playing with her cards, and pulls out a card meaning that a boy with dark hair who has a great dislike for the seer is hiding' and even in the chpater 'the Seer Overheard' she says that there will be great calamity and death at the lightning-struck tower, which of course, is where dumbledore dies shortly.
I also didn't notice, but the room of requirement in which harry hides his Half-Blood Prince book, is also the room in which Malfoy had hid the vanishing cupboard, and was fixing it it. Harry runs right past it.
I love all the little things. Trelawny wasn't seeing the grim in book 3, she was seeing sirius, so again she was not wrong by what she saw, only she wrongly interpreted. Or maybe she didn't, since Harry most certainly will die in book 7.
aquatus1
Aug 7 2005, 03:42 PM
Oh, theres lots of little things like that. For instance, Ron is always wrong when he tries to deduce something, however when he makes a joke of it, his joke is always correct.
ames2787
Aug 7 2005, 07:29 PM
You didn't notice that Burnside! SHOCK!
Doesn't it say that he threw the book in the room of requirement though?
And doesn't it also say that Draco is always in there, and Harry can't get in there cos he doesn't know exactly what Draco requires it for?
My extremely slow friend, is STILL only three quarters through the book, I'm thinking jeez, hurry up!
ABOTU
Aug 7 2005, 07:30 PM
I don't know if this means anything, but in the book Slughorn mistakenly calls Ron "Rupert" which is the name of the actor who played Ron(Rupert Grint). If it's for him, he must be really honored!
BurnSide
Aug 7 2005, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(ames2787 @ Aug 7 2005, 03:29 PM)
You didn't notice that Burnside! SHOCK!
Doesn't it say that he threw the book in the room of requirement though?
And doesn't it also say that Draco is always in there, and Harry can't get in there cos he doesn't know exactly what Draco requires it for?
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That's not what i ment.
The Room of requirement is whatever you want it to be remember, it's never the same. Of course Draco is always in there and Harry is trying to get in, that's one of the main storylines.
What i ment was, it just so happens, that the Room of Requirement that harry gets into a hides his book, just so happens to be exactly the same room Malfoy was using to hide his Vanishing Cupboard and actually runs right by it without even realising this IS the room that Malfoy was also using and that WAS what he was hiding in the room. See what i mean? As far as harry was concerned, the room that Harry opened may have been completely different from the one Malfoy opened, because it's completely different depending on what you want it to be. But it wasn't different, it was the one and same.
Of course i didn't notice the vanishing cupboard was mentioned at first, because it's not important for several more chapters after this.
MJB222
Aug 7 2005, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(JennRose @ Aug 4 2005, 12:52 PM)
QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 4 2005, 01:37 PM)
The way Harry was talking by the end of the book, it sounds like she's gonna make a couple more, not just year 7... I forgot the exact quote, and my book's out in our motorhome, but didn't he say he's never going back to Hogwarts and that he's going to find all the horcruxes, and he could take 1,2, or even 5 more years? It was something like that...
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I think she is setting him up to be killed off, honestly. That way she won't ever have to worry about coming back and adding more books to it...the hero will be gone.
Personally, I think the last holocrux will either be Harry, his scar, or his eyes (bc his green eyes are said to be very important). So he will have to destroy himself in orger to destroy Voldemort.

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Thats what I think also. I strongly believe that Harrt Potter will die in the next book.
Anyways, I finished reading the book last week. It was okay, but I didn't like the fact that Dumbledore died.

Also I didn't expect the half-blood prince to be Snape,

but it was kinda obvious when I think back.
BurnSide
Aug 7 2005, 07:56 PM
Of course. Potions Master.
TaintedDoughnuts
Aug 8 2005, 03:17 AM
Or maybe J.K.'s purposely setting it up to make it seem like Harry is going to die in the next book, so we all expect to happen, only to find out its the complete opposite, and Harry lives and manages to destroy all the horcruxes without killing himself! Or am I thinking on this too much?
JennRose
Aug 8 2005, 03:29 AM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Aug 7 2005, 10:45 AM)
I'm actually reading the book through for the second time now. It's funny you know, with Professor Trelawny. She has actually, never, EVER, been wrong.
For example, when Harry is hiding from her earlier in the book, she is playing with her cards, and pulls out a card meaning that a boy with dark hair who has a great dislike for the seer is hiding' and even in the chpater 'the Seer Overheard' she says that there will be great calamity and death at the lightning-struck tower, which of course, is where dumbledore dies shortly.
I love all the little things. Trelawny wasn't seeing the grim in book 3, she was seeing sirius, so again she was not wrong by what she saw, only she wrongly interpreted. Or maybe she didn't, since Harry most certainly will die in book 7.
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I give bonus points to JK for her literary knowledge with this one. Prof. Trelawny's first name is Cassandra, right? In Greek mythology Cassandra was a prophetess who was cursed by the gods to have all her predictions come true, but to never be believed (she predicted the fall of Troy, among other things).
Just like how Lupin's first name is Remus. Remus who, along with his twin Romulus, was raised by a she-wolf in Roman mythology.
TaintedDoughnuts
Aug 8 2005, 08:07 AM
They've got some new book out that explains all of those puns in the character's names, I forgot what it's called though
BurnSide
Aug 8 2005, 12:13 PM
Cool, i didn't know that. That is well done.
What's professor sprouts first name? I can't remember. Just wondering since i wonder why Rowling seemed to want to have all the heads of the houses have the same initials for both names.
SS, MM, FF, and i'm guessing SS for Sprout as well i'm guessing.
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