Marketing Primary Technology
Through The Ancient Maya Lands

By Ron O. Cook

Designing the economic structures of the future requires a gestalt or a macroscopic scale of thinking that results in monumental accomplishments. It has been suggested that ancient man did think large and as proof, they constructed some of the greatest complexes and cities that have ever graced the surface of the earth. Currently, ancient American archaeological discoveries are rising to levels as great and almost as old as the Sumerians, and Egyptians thus putting the spotlight on the New World's past.

Perhaps the most mysterious culture was that of the Maya whose writings, mathematics, engineering, agriculture, and science still intrigue archaeologists worldwide. They were a leading-edge civilization for stone age (primary) technology. We are only now realizing how much this complex culture has to teach us about survival in a near-equilibrium social state which teeters on the brink of ecological disaster. That is why we must go to the Maya lands and establish a Multi-Developmental Mayasphere (MDM) for intense research so we may learn from their mistakes and accomplishments. At the same time we will also create new socioeconomic structures for that part of the world.

Primary Technology (PT) research, a new professional field, is the relearning of what ancient man knew almost intuitively because of his close association with the idiosyncrasies of nature. PT is the investigation of what has been provided via nature for the sustenance of ecological systems and mankind -- to live and work in harmony within such a system. To be a Primary Technologist is to live the life of an Indian, yet explore nature's teachings via scientific research. Nature becomes the textbook and the philosophy -- it's where the laboratory is the field. Modern technological innovations only act as an amplifier to quicken the grasping of this forgotten knowledge.

Living within nature means processing the products of first echelon provisions -- use what is provided. A PT scientist lives the data and later uses technology to amplify the data to more ecologically safe uses. It is believed that a PT scientist would better discover how to exist in lands like the ancient Mayans, because he/she would emulate their lives. To discover how to properly use the intrinsic multi-connectedness of ecosystems for our continued existence on earth beyond the age of space and automata and to discover how to save this, our pedestal to the universe, would be the prime directive of PT scientists working at the Multi-Developmental Mayasphere.

The MDM would be international in scope, requiring the governments of Mexico, Guatemala and Belize to negotiate agreements with local, national and international interests, such as the World Bank, the National Geographic Society, universities, foundations, and corporations, to join with them in a gargantuan effort to redesign and rediscover the knowledge of the Maya. In exchange for this planned development of the ancient lands, primary technologists (includes all scientific disciplines) would be able to apply for partitioned-participation leases to explore and develop these ancient lands within the confines of a strict program of ecological, archaeological, anthropological, biomedical and biogenetic amplification. Working within the strictures of the above would be the second multi-level which would see reconstruction of ancient sites, and construction of facilities for advanced studies, research labs and intellectual theme-park development. With such a synergistic plan, the formation of an intellectual sphere of constant amplification within the dictates of ecology, would position this area of the world as a super-critical research zone for humanity.

The Mayasphere would be more than a collection of nations, foundations or corporations, it would be a unique economic phenomena in the world with unlimited potential to impact an area in need of a financial injection and a reason the develop. The indigenous people of the lands would find a source of employment at the various facilities that would begin to be built. Peace could return to the countryside where a joint reason for prosperity would pull minds toward resourceful pursuits. This part of the world could become an attraction where the future was being created via something other than pure high technology -- instead, primary technology and harmonic learning would be the emphasis.

Why is it so important to reassemble the knowledge of the ancient peoples of that part of the world? Because for 2000 years they had the edge on civilization. They did something right with Nature. What it was we are not sure of, but something big happened in the Mayasphere and we need to reclaim and re-learn the mysteries of mankind's intimacies with nature's provisions.

Hopefully we will find some ancient message that will serve as a benchmark to what they were about. The Mayans were the only ancient American civilization with a recorded history of their own; although, new evidence suggests that earlier cultures such as the Olmeca and perhaps others (La Mojarra Stela 1) could have been the precursors to the Mayan system of writing. At any rate, the Mayans broadcast on stone billboards the loudest messages of all Mesoamerican cultures. They recorded on lithic monuments, pottery, papers, and skins, the grand events of their abstruse culture. Though their hieroglyphs remain to be totally deciphered, we may soon have the benefit of viewing an advanced civilization built upon "primary technology" taken to the fullest understanding of nature's provisions. In other words the Mayans went about as far as they could go within a category of earth and stone technology. Their knowledge of the Primary Technology (Nature) surely surpasses ours.

When one considers what the Earth is taking on just in the form of increasing population, to rediscover how one ancient civilization contended with with feeding and maintaining a high-ordered community, would be of great value to our survival in today's complex society. According to Linda Schele and David Freidel in their book, A Forest of Kings , the Mayans did just that for over a thousand years (200 B.C. to A.D.900) with a population of millions crammed into a collection of some fifty plus city-states that occupied about 100,000 square miles. Population density in the lowlands could have ranged from 300 to 400 persons per square mile in A.D. 800. This currently compares with 68 persons per square mile figures for the U.S. The Mayans accomplished this unbelievable feat through what must have been on or above par with what we are now trying to attain with today's research of the universal biosphere.

One has but to look at the massive public structures that inundate the Mayan lands, with its metro and suburban areas supporting populations as large as 100,000 persons (Tikal's metro area), to realize what's really involved here. Most of the once urban sites are still left unexplored and unexcavated (90%?) by today's archaeologists and anthropologists. They sit, still hidden, under jungle growth and the decayed remains of the conquistador's attempts to cover up the magnificence of their engineering and subsequently their agricultural prowess (raised fields, canal systems, and arboreal succession).

Though the present day Mesoamerican farmer slashes, burns and then plants his land, the ancient Maya had to be much more sophisticated to support such large populations. New satellite photos using NASA’s sideways-looking radar used first for the recent Venus mission, show evidence of raised-platform and canal remains covering almost 1000 square miles of the ancient Maya Lowlands. It has been suggested that there is so much data to check out, that it would take 200 years at our present pace to explore the new information. Just another reason why we need the MDM.

Research shows that the Mayans farmed within the harmony of nature, considering every element impacting the condition of a growing situation. In their view, growing could take place on the hillside or in the swamp...all predicaments were met through evaluation of what plants would work with others in a mutualism of ecological design. That is certainly something we could use today.

The Mayans were much more sophisticated than most archaeologists or anthropologists have indicated when they stress the wars between the cities or the rituals of blood sacrifice by the leader/kings or priesthood. The Mayan culture also was preoccupied with science, art, government, marketing, philosophy, letters and health. According to Mexican physician Xavier Lozoya, the Mayans were also involved in the scientific evaluation of medicinal applications to curing what ailed them. An article by Lozoya, indicated (his) research has shown that the 1500 different plants the Mayans used for herbal prescriptions were even more effective than today's modern medical counterparts. The Mayasphere has in excess of 1 to 5 million species of plants to study at the future MDM. Lozoya has shown that the Mayans bested today's medicines for diarrhea and athletes foot. What other secrets still remain hidden in the jungles of the Mayasphere?

A civilization so endowed and imbued with great structure and fine aesthetic touch cannot reach such high levels of advancement unless it is well fed...spiritually and physically. To those ends the Maya must have known something that we are still searching for and in the end experienced something that we are now finding more prevalent in our society...terrorism.

According to Arthur Demarest’s work with the Petexbatun Regional Archaeological Project in the Dos Pilas area of Guatemala, the Mayan civilization began to chew upon itself. Evidence of quick fortification within once grand monumental areas indicates the terror that the people must have gone through to strive to maintain their once great civilization. Warrior kings not unlike some of today’s dictatorial leaders, began to invade the city states with killing in mind. A lack of tradition and law-and-order began to cut at the morals of the citizens. Survival of the fittest began to set in. Preoccupation with war and neglect of their food sources signaled that there were too many chiefs (and their select clans) and too few Indians to work the lands. Social fragmentation began to tear at the bonds that had held people together for some 2000 years. We must learn what their mistakes were so we may not commit the same.

So much could be learned if leaders and entrepreneurs would come together to establish an umbrella such as the Multi-Developmental Mayasphere. Even the new profession of Primary Technologist would serve to reintroduce mankind to the knowledge of our ancestors -- that of living as a guardian of what has been provided...Nature.

Are we meant to pick this apart, or just nod?

Yeah, it is quite annoying when a block of infomation is pasted without much though as to how many people are actually going to bother reading it.

I would love to read and post on this, but it just to long, I hate when people do not take the time to write their own cut, paste and post sucks, Its a shame since this could be worth reading

Orion, I forgot to welcome you aboard; I just now noticed that you were new.

Welcome aboard to the forum! Please don't let our comments get you down, we don't mean anything bad by it. We are, actually, most interested in hearing your opinions. What that means, though, is that we want to hear what you think about the topic, not about the actual topic itself. A better way to get people interested in your posts would be to write a quick intro to what you are talking about, post a link to the information, then write your opinion on the matter, inviting any others to post theirs. By doing this, you won't turn off people who would otherwise have been interested. When you cut and paste things like this, well, most people just haven't got the patience for it.

Again, welcome aboard, and I'll see you around the forum.

Yes that was rude of us sorry, i did not know you were new either, glad you are here, hope you will take the time to let us know what you think, thats all that really matters,

Orion Von Koch may be a new alias
but Mr Ron Cook isn't
i've read a lot of stuff of his on the net at various sites including Mystica and the daily grail.
He makes a lot of sense despite sometimes going a bit too mystical for my liking.
not because i don't appreciate mysticism but more because of the reputation you soon get if you talk about it with your real name attached.

As a teacher, I know all to well that few in this day and age are willing to invest in reading. I had hoped that this site might be different and there might exist some who do read a lot. I will do all I can to post as you are accustomed but I do have some things in my bag that require some length. I am a futurist and have been a publisher of a metro newspaper as well as a university administrator. I have consulted for governors, legislators, and Fortune 500 CEOs. I had money once but lost it all to the oil industry. Now, “I am poor.” No big deal…they were small losses compared to the real folks here. I am an international designer and writer looking to find information that will expand my mind. I saw this site and gleefully checked in. I am an old sort (63) but I am amplified. I have many books that keep me busy and then there is teaching. I am a sculptor and work in clay. My wife and I go to the studio about three times a week. I have painted over 1,500 works and designed some 3,000 publications. I have great students all over the world. I love them all…they were great and are getting better.

I have a dry humor to the point that some are put off with me. Please accept my apology if I offend any of you…I do not mean to…just my nature. If we had a beer or two it would be funny. I LOVE TO LAUGH AT MYSELF.

I love Graham Hancock’s work and Alan Alford’s also. My theory of existence is holo-spirited and reaches back to the Vedic Traditions.

That’s me in a “NUT-SHELL.”

Orion,
I read it, and I don't mind long posts as long as they are relevent, well constructed, and habve a point.
Interesting subject. Ancient civilizations such as the Mayans and the Olmecs were much more advanced in certain ways then most people are willing to admit.

Reverting to nature is interesting. I am always amazed when I go camping just how quickly and how easily I can adjust to a life without electricity and other modern comforts.

I don't see anyone being offended...we just like bite size...

Welcome to the forum....what is that holo-spirited theory?

Holo-spirited means we are virtual beings with atoms rather than pixels manifesting our forms. Holographic Universe. I will post tons in the future.

Orion

Your theory of existence goes back as far as 1500bce Orion
thats a long time

My friend, it goes back to the beginning of Time. I have been privy to some very good stuff on this theory of Virtual existence...It is about to become fact.

i thought it was already fact
but then i probably don't know exactly what you're talking about so i'll shut up until you elaborate

Than please exlain the three big mysteries.

How did we get here,

Why are we here,

and what is our purpose?

Belief in a Virtual World…Will it change History?

Virtual Reality is a human endeavor to participate in a computer-created world via extra-electro-sensors such as viewing goggles, gloves or a total sensor-suit. Those who travel in this newly created world can experience perceptual stimuli that approach the visual and tactile expressions of reality. The Department of Defense and NASA have converged robotics with VR to allow a cybernaut to travel, work, and fight in hostile environs while controlled by a human at a remote site. With such capabilities, we will be able to explore dimensionless universes from our own living rooms.

Imagine putting on a head-mounted display and body-sensor suit that would correspond to sensors in a robot that might be millions of miles away -- say on Mars. You could actually become part of a cyber-being that would interact with the Martian environment. You would be able to experience all the wonders of such a far away place in a direct sensory manner.

One wonders -- would living through this vehicle eventually displace your understanding of true reality? What if you could program its memory with yours, then allow someone else on another shift to pick up and continue with his experiments and program his thoughts in the same robot? Each day the robot would become more sophisticated as its experiences multiplied. Later we could add new advances in micro-machines and nanotechnology to create an evolving robot that would actually grow physically toward higher accomplishments. It could be programmed to repair itself and perhaps even give a cyber-birth to new cyber-forms that would assist you in your exploration.

With new additions being developed back on Earth you could even get the feeling that you were on that planet instead of your robotic vehicle. You might get so good at controlling more than one robot at a time that you would become a family or a nation of robots letting you experience the grandeur of multiple personalities. What fun! I have done this with my XBOX and its games.

Intertwined in this "fun" experience are the length, width, breadth and timelessness of the greatest mystery of the universe. If we can attain the above experience via VR in this rudimentary human invention, who is to say that this is not what is already happening through Godhead at this very instance. It was said we were created in his image. Who can refute that we are all an experiment of a higher being that is currently enjoying a broadcast reality via quantum particles that are electromagnetically constituted into this reality that we think we are experiencing right now. Hindu, the oldest religion on Earth, speaks of the One with no second, who lives through all of us in his "playing." Is God playing life through us and we just forgot that we are part of another realm where experiencing a VR is the preoccupation of timelessness?

Think of your own becoming. When you were conceived you and your DNA program came into a body that was new and hard to maneuver in a physical state. God's VR has a learning curve. You had to get familiar with the new apparatus. REASON or mind began to learn to use the Holy Temple.

When a baby first arrives on Earth he/she is mentally more a part of everything or what some call the other or the essence. Some say we are actually smarter at birth and just learn to be somatically stupid. During the first few months, ego has not yet made its stand against the universe. The ego-image has not yet formed until it begins to observe itself in the eye of the other. Mirroring sets the self into a reality that is shown or received via sensors. Sensory experiences create the other for the individual. Soon you will learn to forget where you came from because of the dictates of this state. Learning to live in this physical world is our crux of being...to become.

We learn to stand upon our experiences as a cushion from the void (a place we only know of in another state). The void represents the unknown or feeling of loneliness. If we are not observed by the other, we begin to feel lonely as if we do not exist. Recognition and observation is basic to (quantum) being for all that makes up the universe. Worthiness began to set the stage for worship when mankind sought to remember his being in this physical state. Religion was once the science of that being.

Do all of our religious writings suggest that at the core of those impassioned words lie the secret and the truth of our reality? God gave us being and the Word -- REASON. Reason or mentality is our existence within the somatic-vehicular experience. Our bodies are our holy temples or means of motivation in a physical state. We should not do harm to our Holy Temples. We should love our neighbors as we love ourselves, because we are our neighbors and at the end of this VR we'll learn that we did all those dirty deeds to ourselves.

Today almost all members of our scientific community are gradually coming to realize that reality is indeed beyond our current theories and some have suggested that our environ is God...the god of Omni-technology...the quantum self. Some say that the universe is a massive computer where numbers are the language that it creates its virtual reality from.

David Bohm, Paul Davies and others marvel that mankind can even contemplate the universe, what Bohm called the holomovement -- a realm that is a manifestation or a broadcast of Being. How can mankind even think about something so magnificent as the makeup of himself and the universe? Quantification is the key here -- to assign REASON is to measure knowing in a physical state. This universe may be a combination of VR, quantum physics, nanotechnology, holography, fractal geometry, plasma physics, computational mirroring, inherent cosmological understanding and much more. The possibility that we may discover the truth of what we are, might just be found in the Virtual Reality Synergism.

Over the next few years mankind will be subjected to the possibility of universal knowing on a scale that could only be called a "revelation." Soon we may all learn that all those ancient words that our ancestors were in awe of will suddenly come into a living understanding that will cause a new birth. This new birth will amount to a being full of billions and billions of experiences incorporated to embark upon a new direction of higher cognition and spirituality. Then, mankind will leave this "wheel" and graduate to things that we can only dream of -- unless our dreams are the reality of this VR?

Look at the screen in front of you as you read this concept. The cursor or leading edge of your thoughts feed back into the computer is virtually you. What we see in two dimensions will someday expand into many dimensions. The key is to see the symbolism of what is apparently being fed to us via our own intellects. Read what he is showing us.

To think that this "Leap of Fate" could happen was once laughed at by skeptics, but they probably have not had the experience of even the current versions of Virtual Reality. If you ever have a VR experience, then you can also...think of all the possibilities. See you on the next wheel.

So, we live in a Matrix?

Yep i think thats the overall meaning of the message. Most ancient cultures do refer to us living in an illusion. I know the Mayans believed this as well as the Hindu's.

you know more than most anthropologists then.

What anthropologists will eventually come around to is the Holographic Universe as reported in the 2003 issue of Scientific American. Basically, we are information within a bag of blood.

by no means would i know more then an anthropologist since thats not my area of expertise. Thats just my personal opinion after reading books on the mayan civilzation. I've read a little about Hindu culture and i got the impression they believed this as well. What they believe and what orion is posting goes together rather nicely.


http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Hindui...d_Maya/id/54124

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID...7AE80A84189EEDF

here is a link to that article.

Orion - I do not disagree with you on the potential value of PT research.

Obviously the Mayan's kept a huge population housed, clothed and fed using what many today would consider "primitive technology". Knowledge of how they did this without ruin of their environment would be of great use today.

There would likely be many roadblocks to such a large project as a Mayasphere. Do you know if there are any smaller projects in the works that utilize PT research?

No I do not. If we don't watch out, we will be attempting to learn it rather rapidly considering the direction humanity is headed.

I did a little digging to see if I could come up with anything. "Experimental Archaeology" seemed to be the closest to PT that I could find. At least, the closest I could find that yeilded any actual results.

I'll pass along a few in case you might them interesting.

Recreation of a British Iron Age farm:
http://www.butser.org.uk/iafintro_hcc.html

Work here involves recreation of ancient Bolivian farming methods (pretty interesting actually)

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cerickso/

and

[URL=http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cerickso/applied.html]
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cerickso/applied.html[/URL]

Thank you so very much. Looks like good stuff.

Marduk, who is this guy,

The deepest truths can only be approached through myths and symbols. They cannot even be conveyed through exegesis or philosophical treatise. The Truth can only be hinted at and, even then, can only be recognized by those who already know it.

he's Orion Von Koch.
his annonymity has been requested

Heck, I am just one of you only new. We just moved in down the street in that little house with the one tree out front. My dad sells tires and my mom stays at home with us kids. My dad likes to buy all those cars you see there, I think we have eight cars, anyway he fixes them up and sells them like new. You want to play some football?

That was me 57 years ago.

Does this mean your a time traveler?

in the only sense that time travel was possible 57 years ago
YES

if you think about it were all time travelers.

Your born and your entire life is a journey through time.

Per Kenny Chesney...I love his music

Looking back now, well it makes me laugh
We were growin our hair, we were cuttin' class
Knew it all already, there was nothing to learn
We were strikin' matches just to watch 'em burn

Listen to our music just a little too loud
We were hangin' in there with the outcast crowd
Headin' to the rapids with some discount beer
It was a long train tussle but we had no fear.

Man I don't know, where the time goes
But It sure goes fast, just like that
We were wanna be rebels who didn't have a clue
With our Rock n' roll T-shirts, and our typically bad attitudes
Had no excuses for the things that we'd done
We were brave, we were crazy, we were mostly
Young

Erm...

Kenny Chesney? Listening to him sing is like having a dog vomit in your face.


I prefer some good Dub poetry:

time travel


A city block divided us
From what was coming:
A future concealed beneath a film of grime
So heavy, so contagious, that the nature
Of its charge was changed.

We looked away from each other.
Black smears of gum of varying age
Caught my attention, looking, as they did,
Like the imprint of raindrops.

As limited as a metaphor is,
I thought, it’s truer than it seems
This teardrop thing—
It’s a two way street, you know,
We’re not talking about Rivers flowing uphill—
For the weight of different things in time
Is not so important as one perceives
Coming and going, avoiding and forgetting,
And such. Though he was wrong,
The science teacher was right
To equate the history of man with a heartbeat.

So, I wondered, in the span of some electrical pulse—
Or something, right? Should I look that up?
The bit of the byte?
The millisecond of the minute?
Or whatever—
The whisper of the intention of the cardiomuscular
To do what it exists to do.
In that span,
how many feet have tread on this blotch
Of black gum? Hundreds of thousands?

It depends of course,
But my intuition—what with too much TV
Last night and the idea of the weekend
Already ruined by a mood that claims me
Early Thursday morning—is no match for the trajectories
That intersect this patch of concrete.

The homeless man, locks of knotted hair
Streaming, storms by,
Hammering my shoulder,
My attention snared by
The grodiness—
Did he leave any on me?—
As much as the violence.
Too late somehow,
Though we’re both safe,
And glad for the supercharge,
The action in an unstimulated
Narrative, I turn to look
And see that it was worse for you,
That I should help you up
And rub your shoulder
Later tonight,
When we get home from work.
Which I did.

What was...is no longer

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse
out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I can't explain I cannot put my finger on it
the child is grown
the dream is gone
I have become confortably numb

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then the one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in the relative way, but you're older
And shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desparation is the English way
The time is gone the song is over, thought I'd something more to say

Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
When I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away, across the field, tolling on the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
And hear the softly spoken magic spell

PF

Great stuff! I love poetry and I also like music...none of it makes me vomit...I guess you had to be there. One must not look past the unseen worth of an event sequence for the message is in pico-seconds and the verbiage is none but symbols.

You guys are great.

O.

I like Pink Floyd. Comfortably numb is a great song. Not a big fan of country though.........

"What is in us,
that turns a deaf ear,
to the cries of
Human Suffering" - System of a Down

Peace

We don't need no Education...I like 'em all once. Lately, I have gone to country since I live in Texas, New Mexico and Alabama. I am threefold don't you know. I like driving down the road in my sports car sounding like a hick...it is what I am and what brung me. UT. I have a few Jeeps too that some of my relatives let me drive. Being old, some won't let me drive anymore. So, I drive in my dreams...those are some vehicles...somewhat stealth.

Thats one of my favs. Alot of meaning to most of the songs in that era.

lol thats awful
when i'm your age Orion i'm gonna get me one of these

then the kids at the local mall are in trouble.
i wanna see if they market one with Boudicca style spikes coming off the wheels

Well, I am not as old as I seem. I once played FB and lifted a few weights (from the table). That looks like a great vehicle...Is it a 350 Z?

O.

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of course i'll have it souped up so it does 0-60 in 2.5 seconds

and maybe have it converted to flight
well it'll be 2027

haha I just got a picture of Orion driving through New Mexico on that thing... It would take a couple of weeks if it only goes 6mph. it does look pretty comfortable though.

and with those all terrain tires getting up to teotihucan should be no problem

I do have one vehicle that does 168 mph. I've only had it at 110. Lots of roads in Texas and New Mexico.