Before everyone starts to say that i'm i liar or something like that i just wanna say that i don't care about what other people have to say, i know what i see. And i just would like some help.

For a while i had a couple of small useless visions, luckely they stopt for a while. They where really annoying because they didn't tell anything 'cept small fragments of what was gonna happen to me that day But now for the last days i keep on having a recurring mental image. I keep seeing America on the news and i keep hearing the date 22/07 . And it's really bugging me. Can someone please help me?

Not really much you can do aboot it. Cept wait and see wot happens in, assuming the date means this year, 2 days. Rather interesting...

If you ask me people should be more neutral with answering any posts in this forum rather then insulting without need, which to be frank disgusts me.

Ah, I recommend you refer to this thread in the conspiracy forum ... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=46037

yep 2 days to go.....what exactly of an image are u getting? Do you see something specific? How did you end up with the date...was that part of the image you saw? What triggered the image if anything?

I am all ears

When was the first time you had these images?

Just one question. I won't be so skeptical on this one, I'm going to wait...you gotta hand it Bio-Mage, something *may* happen.

Due right hailo...I am expressing genuine interest here...just wondering about the details

Well, i'm just going to guess....in my opinion, nothing will happen. But I don't want to be like that until the day comes up. If something will happen, I think it would be a terrorist attack. America on the news. Or it could be what the link said provided above, something about Chicago.

I hope its nothing bad where people get hurt again...why not something nice for change?

I think people usually have visions of doom and gloom because it is traumatic. It is something people want to be warned about. Think about it, would you rather be warned of a nice surprise party in your honor or of the fact that your house might blow up?
If psychics are to be believed, the reason for this is that there is that traumatic events leave a deeper 'imprint' on the environment which is sometimes so powerful, the imprint can actually extend to before the event that left it. SOunds strange and entirely unplausible by scientific means, but I have seen evidence myself, or rather felt, that this is true. Strange, and I cannot prove it to you, but it is something I have noted before.

If The Drake Never looked at that thread, he has true clairvoint ability. Yes be more specific, tell us what the news is saying, and for ore information on the Illuminati, please read Angels and Demons by Dan Brown.

Yes Drake, I'm curious as well. I get very very small premonitions, usually in the form of " a feeling" sometimes in dreams. I'm curious what you think might happen... who will it involve? Do you think that your premonition might be for next year? or ten years from now? I've never had a premonition that specific before... it would be interesting to see what you see

btw... if you have any artistic talent, you should try sketching what you see. it could be helpful. usually in premonitions there are very big clues as to details... like if you see the washington monument, clearly it will be there, know what I mean?

Yes, please describe in as much detail as you can muster about your vision.

Don't post here then, talk to yourself if you feel this. It would be more productive.

Well I can see five explanations here, some are more likely than others.

1) It is a normal dream, you may have noticed these numbers at one time and the country, and now they are manifesting themselves in your dreams.

2) You are seeing a glimpse of the future or are being warned.
If this were true then the laws of phsyics would be made void and everything we know for certain would be overthrown. Life would change forever and so would everything we know and the way we live our lives.

3) You are lying.

4) It is a recurring dream. You are worried about something and it keeps coming up, could be something psychological or just something completely random.

5) You had this dream once, but in it you dreamed that you have it several times and now think that it is a recurring dream.


I particularly like option 2.

He could be getting warned for something personal in his life and unrelated to a national event.

didn't think of that one SP... of course its entirely possible.

why do you always have to be so mean Mr ed? other skeptics have replied without being mean, why not wait and see just like them?

*sigh*

anyway, The Drake (or just drake?) why don't you write down as much as you can about this, and then after the date, if it was something personal to you not a country-wide event (maybe it happened while the news was on? who knows.) then maybe get people who know you to sign that the event did happen as like... backup or something?

I was not being mean, I gave a list of options.
I did not say it was all of them or say which one I thought the original poster came under.

Those were the different things that I saw could apply to them.
Obviously to me, some were more likely than others.

I know that nothing will happen on that day, if it does it is by a freaky coincidence.
If something did happen and it was predicted, then that means Chrisitianity would also be thrown into complete disrepute.

Creepy.Hope everythings gonna be alright!

Well, Drake may have a genuine experience. Do I detect a little envy under the disguise of scepticism??
Anyway it sort of expalins my panicky feelings the last few days and something seems to be pointing at two's or doubles while I am about my daily business. It's unusually vague for me.
We'll just have to wait and see.

If he turns out to be right, this will be ALMOST incontrovertble proof of calirvoyant ability!

OK Ed do not jump so fast there are members of your own group who do from time to time see thing. It can happen, but with out knowing this person as i do some i will just wait and see what happens,

Hi Drake,

Was this mental image in a dream or while you were awake?

Did you just see or did you also feel anything ?eg... if it's a fire you may feel like you're choking from the smoke.

Write down anything you feel strongly about, tell someone you trust as well and then wait and see if you're proven correct.

Yes! What a turning point in minds this would be. If something happened, we'd have a lot of believers. If something doesn't happen, what a train wreck, and we'd have a lot of skeptics.

Actually even if this turns to be genuine, I will still not believe people who say they control fire and make psi balls...!

I am not being harsh Isis, but it is true.

If one person really ever has a vision or omen about the future then everything would change. It would be devestating to many scientific laws and religion would be a really messy argument.

The 22nd of July is a date that's being bandied about a lot recently. I believe you probably read in somewhere, maybe not even realising it, and it played into your head, after all dreams are the thought patterns of the subconscious.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see, either way I won't be losing any sleep over it

Why would it be devestating?
Only to narrow minded people who never wanted to accept there's more to life then what you can see.
Many people out there have predicted things and I've never had a problem with that.

If people have been scientifically proven to have predicted something then everything would change.

Fate would be proved to exist.
There would be no choices.
People would be damned or blessed from the outstart.
Christians would know that their fate has already been decided etc.

Christians already believe that for the most part. Everything is in gods hands and he decides what happens in this world.

Visions are possible outcomes. free will over rides any of these things that can happen.

Either way time will let the truth be known.

I kind of agreed with nick fury about him just seeing that somewhere else on the net or the other thread on this subject. and then just having a dream about it later.

What sort of scientific proof do you want?

Scientific Checks.
Controlled experiments.

Psychic visions are not a controlled quality, you can't make one appear on demand.

I looked at the date and it said 22 but then I realized it as 1:24 in the morning? So what's going on today are the would be bombs going to denoate? lalala Aye I'm leaving monday to egypt! hurray for me! I am bored.

Well we had another bomb incident in London yesterday. I hope nothing like that happens today though.

Safe journey Judo...

*nods* Yeah my foster mum told me aboot yesterday's bombings after I got home from the Delta Goodrem concert.... really got me ranting...

Yes, but if a person is known to have them then they could make a record of whenever they happened and go to a police station when they saw a vision of the future.

Then, if the vision came to light the police would prove to be an infallable source of evidence.

They would probably get locked up and somehow blamed for said event. I think the police would think they had something to do with it before they believe in the psychic ability.

Nope, if they had a vision about when it would happen they could go to the police station on the said date.

One can keep coming up with these scenarious, but do you not accept that they would be able to prove? (the existence of visions).

You may be able to do that in the UK but here in the states they would presume you were responsible and put you away. Especially with all of the hype surrounding terrorism. One day when the world is confident of everyones sensory abilities we will be able to speak up without fear.

Another pefect excuse...

Isn't that just like you to hit & run.

I don't steer away from arguments.

I made an observance and there is no point in continuing this when you just generate scenarios that prove otherwise.

Back and forth, back and forth.

Are you really reading these posts or are you just spouting off? I was telling you about how we do things here in the states and you go off about having "another perfect excuse". What kind of observation are you making?

I was saying that essentially, if someone did have visions of the future then they would be able to prove it.
I feel that they definitely would.

You then said that they would be arrested if they want to the police or were at the police station when the event took place.

I then said that this is just another weak excuse to argue the point.

The overall point I am making here is that people do not have visions of the future because otherwise they would have proved themselves by here.
I merely meant I did not want to get into an argument in which we would argue differen scenarios of whether they would be believed or not, that is what I saw the direction of this thread becoming.

I have a prediction for you, "stay away from the subway and other forms of public transportation, it could be a detriment to you health".
Just kidding, I feel bad for what's happening over there. I can predict it will be happening here soon too. I'm glad they beat the crap out of one of them.

Distasteful joke...

Apologies- the guy who got shot was innocent.

Its today

As the others said, you'd be locked up by the police or mental health team.

I gave an example on TSC forum, nothing major but a vision that did come true. Not all visions are of major events.

I believe this excuse to be far too weak.
Even if you had be locked up you would continue to have visions.
You would shout out about your visions.
They would then know you could not possibly orcastrate or be behind the events that you glimpsed.

Ed, you didn't answer the 2nd part of my comment, but in regards to the first.....

Weak excuse, get out in the real world Ed.

Have you ever been in a psych unit? I've worked in some and there is no way anyone would risk going there just to prove they have visions.

Like I've said before, you can't control visions you may have 3 over a 3 week period and then go a year without any. Also they may just be something small there's no guarantee. You've also got to allow an error % in there. Even the best of any field will never be 100% correct 100% of the time.

You've been watching too much tv or listening too to many kids/ adults with nothing better to do with their time then sprout out untrue major predictions every 2nd day for the attention if you believe that's what real psychics do.