thanks
Full Version: new to psi
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Unexplained Mysteries > Metaphysics, Psychology & Psychic Phenomena
I am new to the whole psi thing, so i need some guidance. i am 14 years old, and i have always been interested in what is possible with the human mind. i know that you guys are all going to say that i should enjoy my childhood, but i have and i am ready to try something new. i have tried psi balls, but nothing visible yet. and i would like to get into telekinesis, and i am extremely interested in hydrokinesis, and i have a pool to practice in, if any of you have any suggestions on how i could practice my abilities. well if you have any suggestions for me or would like to be my online or in-person teacher, i would greatly appreciate it.
thanks
thanks
Hopefully this will be the first post in response to you.
NONE OF IT IS REAL.
Sorry, I just think that a sharp reality check is needed before you get sucked into the world of blind believers.
These powers do not exist, and if they do they are not accessible to you.
There is no proof anywhere in the whole entire world that proves the existence of such powers.
There are many people on this forum that will tell you they can do these things.
They cannot.
You can try and do them all you want, but the most you will ever achieve is a slight tingling in your fingers.
This is just a friendly warning, don't be brainwashed by believers, some of whom are scared of reality.
NONE OF IT IS REAL.
Sorry, I just think that a sharp reality check is needed before you get sucked into the world of blind believers.
These powers do not exist, and if they do they are not accessible to you.
There is no proof anywhere in the whole entire world that proves the existence of such powers.
There are many people on this forum that will tell you they can do these things.
They cannot.
You can try and do them all you want, but the most you will ever achieve is a slight tingling in your fingers.
This is just a friendly warning, don't be brainwashed by believers, some of whom are scared of reality.
Gently, Ed, gently. Welcome to the forums, Falimor. Just an FYI, there are sooooo many posts on this. Go to the search box and type in "Psi". Many threads. 
all i have to say to you skeptics, is that it is real, for i come from a family full of people who are trained psions, but their teacher has recently passed on, RIP 
. and they say that it is way to dificult for me to learn at this age, but they will begin teaching me when i am out of school, which i think is bullsh*t. so they said if i can do it on my own or find my own teacher, they will respct my wishes. i have seen them al do things with psi, and i see my father use telekinesis everyday , and he doesnt even act like its a big deal. he even uses it at the dinner table. so you can be skeptic all you want, but i really dont care what you have to say. 
. and they say that it is way to dificult for me to learn at this age, but they will begin teaching me when i am out of school, which i think is bullsh*t. so they said if i can do it on my own or find my own teacher, they will respct my wishes. i have seen them al do things with psi, and i see my father use telekinesis everyday , and he doesnt even act like its a big deal. he even uses it at the dinner table. so you can be skeptic all you want, but i really dont care what you have to say.
Why are you smacking me, Falidor? I thought I was being very nice. 
I think he was attacking me wannabe.
Go away then, these are Forums...
QUOTE
but i really dont care what you have to say.
Go away then, these are Forums...
What a shame.
Another brilliant telekinetic brought down to swearing because he has no proof or argument.
Another brilliant telekinetic brought down to swearing because he has no proof or argument.
i have proof, my whole family is proof. whenever you meet us, by some slim chance of fate, u will see and we will make you believe 
and will someone please back me up on this?
and will someone please back me up on this?
You have proof you are willing to send in?
Maybe film your dad using telekinesis?
If you did, it would be groundbreaking footage that would revolutionaise phsyics and the way we think and interact with the world.
Go to a mainstream, reliable, media source. Take your family there.
Prove the existence of all kinds of kenisis to the world.
I don't see this happening though.
Maybe film your dad using telekinesis?
If you did, it would be groundbreaking footage that would revolutionaise phsyics and the way we think and interact with the world.
Go to a mainstream, reliable, media source. Take your family there.
Prove the existence of all kinds of kenisis to the world.
I don't see this happening though.
Where in NY do you live? I go there once a year and would love to meet your family.
my father likes to keep our secret a SECRET, which is why its called a secret
people will think my family is full of freaks, and we dont need or want the publicity.
and Mr. Ed, i am asking for u to please just leave this posting, PLEASE, because i really dont want skeptics here. it doesnt help me at all
people will think my family is full of freaks, and we dont need or want the publicity.
and Mr. Ed, i am asking for u to please just leave this posting, PLEASE, because i really dont want skeptics here. it doesnt help me at all
You cannot ask for only believers to respond.
These are free forums.
Pm a believer if you want a believers only discussion.
As a member I am entitled to post where I wish to, the same goes for anyone else.
I am guessing your family won't give proof for one of the reasons below:
These are free forums.
Pm a believer if you want a believers only discussion.
As a member I am entitled to post where I wish to, the same goes for anyone else.
I am guessing your family won't give proof for one of the reasons below:
QUOTE
A. Can’t afford a camera.
B. Live in a really remote area.
C. Don't want the media to hound them.
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
E. Can't upload it.
F. They have electrokenisis and whenever they go near a camera it breaks.
G. Are deluded.
H. Say that you wouldn't believe their evidence anyway.
F. Say that they will give you evidence, but it never turns up.
B. Live in a really remote area.
C. Don't want the media to hound them.
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
E. Can't upload it.
F. They have electrokenisis and whenever they go near a camera it breaks.
G. Are deluded.
H. Say that you wouldn't believe their evidence anyway.
F. Say that they will give you evidence, but it never turns up.
Stop it, Ed! 
Listen Falidor, I'm serious. I'd love to meet your family. I won't bring a camera or spread tales or anything.
i am going to go with:
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
and i am sry, wannabeskeptic, but no
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
and i am sry, wannabeskeptic, but no
QUOTE
people will think my family is full of freaks, and we dont need or want the publicity.
Yeah, corrisponds with reason C pretty well too. If you're not willing to show us the proof, then be prepared for ridicule.
Ah, well I would have gone with a few from the list.
I think that is the most common excuse, and one of the worst.
I don't want to come across as making an attack at you, but to me this is what the situation looks like.
You make a thread telling everyone that your family has telekinetic powers and you want a teacher, because they say you are too young to learn from them.
We respond, some of us more skeptical than others.
You swear at me.
I ask you for proof, you choose option D. Big surprise.
Wannabe offers to validate your claims, to prove you right, you decline.
This thread will just spiral in the same direction as all the others that came before it, and all of the ones that will follow it.
Downwards into thread oblivion.
I think that is the most common excuse, and one of the worst.
I don't want to come across as making an attack at you, but to me this is what the situation looks like.
You make a thread telling everyone that your family has telekinetic powers and you want a teacher, because they say you are too young to learn from them.
We respond, some of us more skeptical than others.
You swear at me.
I ask you for proof, you choose option D. Big surprise.
Wannabe offers to validate your claims, to prove you right, you decline.
This thread will just spiral in the same direction as all the others that came before it, and all of the ones that will follow it.
Downwards into thread oblivion.
falimor,
As this is an open public forum, you'll have to accept that any discussion you start will generate differing opinions, skeptical as well as supportive. Counter the opposing viewpoints with credible reasoning or supporting evidense, but don't demand that people refrain from posting to your thread, that isn't a reasonable request.
MM
As this is an open public forum, you'll have to accept that any discussion you start will generate differing opinions, skeptical as well as supportive. Counter the opposing viewpoints with credible reasoning or supporting evidense, but don't demand that people refrain from posting to your thread, that isn't a reasonable request.
MM
i am sorry, but i just want someone to help me to learn, and i really dont need any help at all from skeptics. i respect your views, mr ed, but you dont have to believe me. and you are coming across to me as an attack. so please, i know i cant make you stop posting at this thread,but please stop criticizing me. u dont have to believe me.
QUOTE
but please stop criticizing me. u dont have to believe me.
I am sorry, but I am going to criticise your comments if you make what to me is an outrageous claim, that your whole family can do telekinesis, without any proof whatsoever.
In your mind, can you do anything that is visible?
QUOTE(falimor @ Jul 20 2005, 03:56 PM)
i am going to go with:
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
and i am sry, wannabeskeptic, but no
[right][snapback]744690[/snapback][/right]
D. Don't want to provide proof because they know it exists and don't have to justify themselves.
and i am sry, wannabeskeptic, but no
[right][snapback]744690[/snapback][/right]
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Jul 20 2005, 03:59 PM)
Wannabe offers to validate your claims, to prove you right, you decline.
This thread will just spiral in the same direction as all the others that came before it, and all of the ones that will follow it.
Downwards into thread oblivion.
[right][snapback]744694[/snapback][/right]
This thread will just spiral in the same direction as all the others that came before it, and all of the ones that will follow it.
Downwards into thread oblivion.
[right][snapback]744694[/snapback][/right]
Yep, that's the answer I thought I'd get. That's why I made the suggestion. Granted, if he agreed, I would indeed be delighted to meet him and his family, but considering this particular downward spiral, I have to remain skeptical. I like to think of myself as a very friendly and openminded individual. I can be discrete and totally respect someone's wishes to remain anonymous. I'm sorry Falimor, if you were telling the complete truth, you could have had a fairly believable ally. As it now stands, you have lost any credibility you could've potentially have had.
Has anyone else noticed that I have a certain way of killing topics?
Instead of seeking out a single teacher, you could simply join the Believers Corps. It is a group of believers hwo help one another. In my signature, the "Grand Chamber of Adamantine Opinions" was an early form of the Believers Club which then merged with The Believers Corps. We help each other out, and you are welcome to join.
Hey, Pyro. Since Falimor won't accomodate me, are these guys local? Do they have groups everywhere? Please respond. Thanx.
QUOTE(falimor @ Jul 20 2005, 03:29 PM)
all i have to say to you skeptics, is that it is real, for i come from a family full of people who are trained psions, but their teacher has recently passed on, RIP . and they say that it is way to dificult for me to learn at this age, but they will begin teaching me when i am out of school, which i think is bullsh*t. so they said if i can do it on my own or find my own teacher, they will respct my wishes. i have seen them al do things with psi, and i see my father use telekinesis everyday , and he doesnt even act like its a big deal. he even uses it at the dinner table. so you can be skeptic all you want, but i really dont care what you have to say.
[right][snapback]744650[/snapback][/right]
. and they say that it is way to dificult for me to learn at this age, but they will begin teaching me when i am out of school, which i think is bullsh*t. so they said if i can do it on my own or find my own teacher, they will respct my wishes. i have seen them al do things with psi, and i see my father use telekinesis everyday , and he doesnt even act like its a big deal. he even uses it at the dinner table. so you can be skeptic all you want, but i really dont care what you have to say. [right][snapback]744650[/snapback][/right]
What you just said was an excuse to get pity from a "trained psion" who is probably no more than someone who knows how to blow on a pinwheel.
Because you were insulted by our disbelief in psi, it sounds like you don't really believe in it yourself but merely want to. Those who are true, inexorable believers usually are so wrapped up in themselves and their childish fantasy of powerful psionics that they don't care what anyone says.
Find your own true mental power and capacity first before delving into the unreliable world of psionics.
QUOTE(WannabeSkeptic @ Jul 20 2005, 04:52 PM)
Hey, Pyro. Since Falimor won't accomodate me, are these guys local? Do they have groups everywhere? Please respond. Thanx.
[right][snapback]745200[/snapback][/right]
[right][snapback]745200[/snapback][/right]
The groups are only here on UM.
please, i want someone to teach me psionics. please
Get out Falimor!!! Escape whilst you still can!
I rest my case.....
escape what?
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Jul 21 2005, 04:15 PM)
I rest my case.....
[right][snapback]746110[/snapback][/right]
[right][snapback]746110[/snapback][/right]
huh??
i am really sick of all these skeptics in this thread. no one has to believe me. i am only asking for some help. i just want to learn. that is all. so if any of you have a problem with what i KNOW is true, then you can just get out of this thread.
please, i am only trying to learn, not start fights.
please, i am only trying to learn, not start fights.
Who is going to help you with what? Are there experts in ESP? Who qualifies them? What qualifies you? You may know of your personal experience but in ours people are talking rubbish. If you want to be taken seriously them provide us with information of your alleged abilities and details of events without taking things for granted. We "normal" people are not priviliged enough to have any special powers and so we require some sort of confirmation. Last time I checked, ESP is not 100% established and so its natural to get a negative feedback when you talk like its the norm.
Now take things from the beggining and explain how your talents work and why you think you need help. Perhaps some of us can point out a different way of approaching the problem you have.
Now take things from the beggining and explain how your talents work and why you think you need help. Perhaps some of us can point out a different way of approaching the problem you have.
Biomage, Falimor want's to learn Psi, you fool! 
He doesn't claim to have powers, he just want's one of the'superior beings' who do to teach him.Although he does claim to KNOW these powers exist and I would like to ask, if I may be so bold, how?
Now back to Falimor's original queerie, I believe this man may have some of the answers you are looking for:
All together now!
*hums X-men tv theme*
Come child, I will teach you what I know. Seriously, come on.
I'm just teaching him what he wants to hear. Things that are considered "valid". What he does with the information is up to him.
I'm just teaching him what he wants to hear. Things that are considered "valid". What he does with the information is up to him.
ok, so i want to learn hydrokinesis, although i can already make water droplets move, but that is pretty much it. i need guidance and advice on how to exercise my abilities, and need help.
right now, the most i can do with psi is create a weak pis ball, (not even visible). and make water droplets move around.
i have gotten them to spell out my name before, but it really drains my energy. does anyone have any ideas for me on how to restore my energy, and preserve it, or gain more energy while in the middle of doing psi? 
GhostDJR - will you please give me some xercises to try that work for you?
I really meant for you to give a detailed account of how your abilities work. Saying that you can make spi balls and move water droplets its vague and it presumes quite a bit.
Most of the things you try to do cannot be performed which is why you drain yourself without result. Your psiballs attempts for example, are not invisible because they are weak, only because they are not suppose to manifest in the first place. I am yet to see a footage of one in fact anywhere...
Also GhostDJR is rather not a suitable person to provide you with any useful information. In fact none of the people in here can advise you on something they hardly understand. If you are as accomplished as you claim, then confirm your abilities in relation to medical tests to found your case. Maybe you discover an oddity in your bloodwork or brain patterns that may give you an insight as to what is happening to you.
So far however the only medical theory in my mind, from what you post, is puberty...
Most of the things you try to do cannot be performed which is why you drain yourself without result. Your psiballs attempts for example, are not invisible because they are weak, only because they are not suppose to manifest in the first place. I am yet to see a footage of one in fact anywhere...
Also GhostDJR is rather not a suitable person to provide you with any useful information. In fact none of the people in here can advise you on something they hardly understand. If you are as accomplished as you claim, then confirm your abilities in relation to medical tests to found your case. Maybe you discover an oddity in your bloodwork or brain patterns that may give you an insight as to what is happening to you.
So far however the only medical theory in my mind, from what you post, is puberty...
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Jul 22 2005, 11:44 AM)
I really meant for you to give a detailed account of how your abilities work. Saying that you can make spi balls and move water droplets its vague and it presumes quite a bit.
Most of the things you try to do cannot be performed which is why you drain yourself without result. Your psiballs attempts for example, are not invisible because they are weak, only because they are not suppose to manifest in the first place. I am yet to see a footage of one in fact anywhere...
Also GhostDJR is rather not a suitable person to provide you with any useful information. In fact none of the people in here can advise you on something they hardly understand. If you are as accomplished as you claim, then confirm your abilities in relation to medical tests to found your case. Maybe you discover an oddity in your bloodwork or brain patterns that may give you an insight as to what is happening to you.
So far however the only medical theory in my mind, from what you post, is puberty...
[right][snapback]748091[/snapback][/right]
Most of the things you try to do cannot be performed which is why you drain yourself without result. Your psiballs attempts for example, are not invisible because they are weak, only because they are not suppose to manifest in the first place. I am yet to see a footage of one in fact anywhere...
Also GhostDJR is rather not a suitable person to provide you with any useful information. In fact none of the people in here can advise you on something they hardly understand. If you are as accomplished as you claim, then confirm your abilities in relation to medical tests to found your case. Maybe you discover an oddity in your bloodwork or brain patterns that may give you an insight as to what is happening to you.
So far however the only medical theory in my mind, from what you post, is puberty...
[right][snapback]748091[/snapback][/right]
I once again agree with Bio-Mage on his views of metaphysics. If you laugh at what you thought you could do when you turn 16 or a bit older, than we know it is just puberty.
One way to get energy for anything is calories. Calorie is a measure of the amount of energy food will give you, or
"A unit of energy-producing potential equal to this amount of heat that is contained in food and released upon oxidation by the body. Also called nutritionist's calorie." - Dictionary.com
With one calorie you can heat up 1 kilogram of water by 1°C, unfortuneatly I've yet to see this done with psi, but if psi was/is real, this method of energy would make sense. Eat lots of candy bars before you use psi. You get plenty of calories, and although you might put on about 10-25 extra pounds, who cares, you will have energy for psi.
Hey falimor
I don't really know how to help you. Search the forums for psi-related threads. There is a "Are you learning telekinesis" thread alive at the moment that might have some things worth reading.
Also, psipog have tutorials but it's not very good as a sole source - you need to read other sites to complement it. I jsut recently found out about this one that you could check out.
Chances are low that you'll find a teacher. Tutorials and personal experiences are about the best you can do on the net.
If your family are so very good at it, though, it might be an idea to leave it for now. Clearly they know what they're doing (if we were to trust what you've told us) so maybe they have good reason for telling you that they'll teach you later.
Would it be so horrid to wait a few years? You've got your whole life to learn and master, why rush?
I don't really know how to help you. Search the forums for psi-related threads. There is a "Are you learning telekinesis" thread alive at the moment that might have some things worth reading.
Also, psipog have tutorials but it's not very good as a sole source - you need to read other sites to complement it. I jsut recently found out about this one that you could check out.
Chances are low that you'll find a teacher. Tutorials and personal experiences are about the best you can do on the net.
If your family are so very good at it, though, it might be an idea to leave it for now. Clearly they know what they're doing (if we were to trust what you've told us) so maybe they have good reason for telling you that they'll teach you later.
Would it be so horrid to wait a few years? You've got your whole life to learn and master, why rush?
I don't think you are being responsible by encouraging this.
QUOTE(falimor @ Jul 22 2005, 02:45 PM)
i can make water droplets move around. i have gotten them to spell out my name before, but it really drains my energy. [right][snapback]747981[/snapback][/right]
i have gotten them to spell out my name before, but it really drains my energy. [right][snapback]747981[/snapback][/right]Thats far out man,really?
thanks for the sites, potholer. i owe you one.
and yes, MK ULTRA, really.
and i know its not puberty, people. my whole family can do it.
and yes, MK ULTRA, really.
and i know its not puberty, people. my whole family can do it.
lalala I laugh in the face of newbies HAHAHAHA (lion king) Anywho, this thread gave me an idea for a thread. Huzzah!
QUOTE(Jeremy_Rumbolt @ Jul 20 2005, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE
people will think my family is full of freaks, and we dont need or want the publicity.
Yeah, corrisponds with reason C pretty well too. If you're not willing to show us the proof, then be prepared for ridicule.
[right][snapback]744692[/snapback][/right]
You are wrong; just because something isn't proven it doesn't deserve ridicule, something without evidence deserves skepticism but not ridicule.
Actually though there is possible evidence(not proof; theres a difference) out there but it is always open to being written off as coincidence or such because of its nature.
I am still skeptical, even though I had an experience with someone who to my logical mind could do things that amount to either astronomically unlikely series of coincidences, or that in fact ESP is real . There is a hell of a lot of 50cent frauds, but if you experience the real thing you might not be so dismissive.
Anyway people could show compelling(yet inconclusive)evidence but you will never even get close to proof.
You are unnaturally gifted Falimor, if you can do that, you are a VERY gifted Psion and the psionic energy obviously runs in your blood. I want YOU to teach ME how to move water droplets! If I could do that, It would really be awesome. I can move flames and I am an extremly gifted Aerokinetic. I created high winds wherever I focus and caused trees to bend. When I stop focusing, it all goes back to normal. I also believe I am very gifted at Clairvoyancy and MicroPK to the extrememe (lol who needs card counting when you have Micro-PK?). But I would love to know hydrkinesis.
Falimor, I started experimenting at your age. You should start out with something less intense and work your way up. My family also uses their supersensory abilities. You can't do it all at once because that drains your energy. Baby steps are the answer. When you are ready your family will guide you through I'm sure.
to be blunt, falimore sounds like a wannabe loser... just the way his posts are written... people who really do this stuff, don't practice for years, they don't wake up and find it done, people woh do this stuff, put their intentions and let time do it's magic... your trying to hard, by fighting sceptics, your trying to hard. Your mind is gonna just resist you then. Just put your intention that you want to learn it. Then pay attention. Observe. The human race learns by observation. Science learn by observation. Pay more attention to what happened in your dreams, after you observe, tweak your dreams. Pay more attention to what happens when you "move the water droplets" (although I doubt it) then see what happense when you do whatever else you said you could do. Note the pattern and move on, pay more attention to not what you want to do, but also the process to do it.
just my daily ramble... hourly ramble maybe?
just my daily ramble... hourly ramble maybe?
thank you death of cartman. that is exactly what i was trying to say.
haha, JohnnyBoyC.
i would love for you to teach me aerokinesis. and i don't know how i can do hydrokinesis, my mom says that i always use to do it when i was like 5, but how am i supposed to remember that? and curiosity, what should i start out with? psi balls? i am not really very successful in creating them, and i have read up a million things on how to make them, but i am still unsuccessful. maybe i just need a little, more practice?
thanks again, everyone.
QUOTE(falimor @ Jul 23 2005, 03:20 PM)
thank you death of cartman. that is exactly what i was trying to say.
haha, JohnnyBoyC. i would love for you to teach me aerokinesis. and i don't know how i can do hydrokinesis, my mom says that i always use to do it when i was like 5, but how am i supposed to remember that?
and curiosity, what should i start out with? psi balls? i am not really very successful in creating them, and i have read up a million things on how to make them, but i am still unsuccessful. maybe i just need a little, more practice?
thanks again, everyone.
[right][snapback]749883[/snapback][/right]
haha, JohnnyBoyC.
i would love for you to teach me aerokinesis. and i don't know how i can do hydrokinesis, my mom says that i always use to do it when i was like 5, but how am i supposed to remember that? and curiosity, what should i start out with? psi balls? i am not really very successful in creating them, and i have read up a million things on how to make them, but i am still unsuccessful. maybe i just need a little, more practice?
thanks again, everyone.
[right][snapback]749883[/snapback][/right]
Do you meditate? Have you ever used the power of chakra or aura therapy? These things will help you to build energy and confidence. I found a book recently called How Phychic Are You?by Julie Soskin it seems to be pretty elementary in the way it explains things. It has 76 techniques to boost your innate powers. Don't be in such a big hurry you have a lot to learn and hopefully a lot of time to do it.
FYI there are 2 curiousity/ curiosity's around here. Just thought I'd clue you in. I am curiousity. From what I know of the other one, they have totally different views from me. Although I can't say for certain.
Aero is easy,
I will post a guide later.
I will post a guide later.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.