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coldethyl
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Jun 22 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1241476[/snapback]


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Thanks for that! I didn't want to be the one to have to do it. laugh.gif
jay99
that trick were the cell phone ends up in the bottle.. that was is FU**ED how the hell?? lol..
magician72120
Those of us that get a little ticked at the revealing of tricks are the ones who make a living performing magic. Performing effects similar to the ones you see on TV puts food on my table and clothes on my kids' backs. Some of us are dedicated to the art of magic and take it very seriously...I can't speak for others but that's my livlihood.

I find it amusing that people here have to ask if what they see is REAL magic or just an illusion. LOL! And to the person who said that camera tricks are NOT used....think again. About 40% of the effects you see Criss Angel perform have some sort of camera editing done. Sorry to burst your bubble...but I've done television, and I know how the television performances work.
coldethyl
QUOTE(magician72120 @ Jun 26 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1247356[/snapback]

Those of us that get a little ticked at the revealing of tricks are the ones who make a living performing magic.



Hey if you look anything like Criss Angel I'll stop and watch you perform ... magic.... w00t.gif

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Searching for Answers
Criss Angel isn't just an illusionist. He's also a mindfreak, and a magician. He claims to being all three of these things. yes.gif
coldethyl
What's a mindfreak?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jun 27 2006, 11:01 AM) [snapback]1248151[/snapback]

Criss Angel isn't just an illusionist. He's also a mindfreak, and a magician. He claims to being all three of these things. yes.gif

Once again. In a radio interview, he clearly states he does not believe in true paranormal powers. Silly wabbit.
magician72120
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 26 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]1247369[/snapback]

Hey if you look anything like Criss Angel I'll stop and watch you perform ... magic.... w00t.gif

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LOL. We're about the same height and similar build...same color hair, but my hair is really short....I don't go for the rocker look. You can see pics of me on my website....www.michal-angelo.com or click the link below. wink2.gif
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 27 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]1248242[/snapback]

Once again. In a radio interview, he clearly states he does not believe in true paranormal powers. Silly wabbit.

If you saw his latest episode, he does that pepper shaker trick. (The one with the quarter and the napkin) He then does his "real" version of the trick. Idk why he'd do his "real" version of the trick if he didn't really have a "real" version and he already did the fake version.

QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 27 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]1248194[/snapback]

What's a mindfreak?


It's not in any online dictionaries so all I can suggest is that you watch the beginning of the themesong where he has a dictionary flipped to the definition.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]1253943[/snapback]

If you saw his latest episode, he does that pepper shaker trick. (The one with the quarter and the napkin) He then does his "real" version of the trick. Idk why he'd do his "real" version of the trick if he didn't really have a "real" version and he already did the fake version.
It's not in any online dictionaries so all I can suggest is that you watch the beginning of the themesong where he has a dictionary flipped to the definition.

Once again you miss the point. HE HAS ADMITTED WHAT HE DOES ARE TRICKS. ON TOP OF THAT DURING AN INTERVIEW HE SAID HE DOES NOT BELIEVE ANYONE CAN PERFORM PARANORMAL FEATS.
Searching for Answers
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 10:49 AM) [snapback]1253957[/snapback]

Once again you miss the point. HE HAS ADMITTED WHAT HE DOES ARE TRICKS. ON TOP OF THAT DURING AN INTERVIEW HE SAID HE DOES NOT BELIEVE ANYONE CAN PERFORM PARANORMAL FEATS.

He admitted that what he does was real magic. He admitted it Live on the today show and about a hundred times on his tv show. IF he really said this then he might've been trying to cover up for some reason, idk. I really just think that you're either lying, or if someone told you that he said this, they were lying. Or that you thought it was Criss Angel but it was really someone else.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 01:06 PM) [snapback]1254080[/snapback]

He admitted that what he does was real magic. He admitted it Live on the today show and about a hundred times on his tv show. IF he really said this then he might've been trying to cover up for some reason, idk. I really just think that you're either lying, or if someone told you that he said this, they were lying. Or that you thought it was Criss Angel but it was really someone else.

You need a reality check.It is quite pitiful that the guy admits what he does is fake and you still will not except it.
Searching for Answers
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 01:09 PM) [snapback]1254085[/snapback]

You need a reality check.

Wow, that was a really great argument! original.gif
Seriously, if this is all you have to say then I suggest you put down your science book, and get a REAL reality check, cause you obviously need one if everything you believe in came from your science book. thumbsup.gif

I see you edited your post, but seriously, look at my post. I never heard him say this so for all I know, you're probably lying. wink2.gif
And on the todayshow as I already posted, he admits to being a mindfreak. Which should I believe? Something that you said which could probably be wrong, or something that I heard with my own two ears.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1254087[/snapback]

Wow, that was a really great argument! original.gif
Seriously, if this is all you have to say then I suggest you put down your science book, and get a REAL reality check, cause you obviously need one if everything you believe in came from your science book. thumbsup.gif

HE ADMITTED IT. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. My god, unbelievable.

Do a little research? Good lord.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 01:12 PM) [snapback]1254088[/snapback]

HE ADMITTED IT. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. My god, unbelievable.

Do a little research? Good lord.

YOU'RE LYING! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! GOOOD LORD!
If this is the best argument you have then may I suggest leaving this topic? original.gif


If he said this then why don't you try showing me a link? rolleyes.gif If you don't have one then you have no argument. You just keep repeating the same thing. He said that he's a mondfreak on live tv. Why would I believe you if I heard em say this?

Use your commen sense.
esotericEntity
it makes you think, when even criss angel himself asks for one whole take on the camera. in other words. he insists that the cameras are rolling the whole time when he performs a stunt. like the glass penetration stunt
but i do remember watching parts of that interview where he talks about his magic.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]1254091[/snapback]

YOU'RE LYING! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! GOOOD LORD!
If this is the best argument you have then may I suggest leaving this topic? original.gif
If he said this then why don't you try showing me a link? rolleyes.gif If you don't have one then you have no argument. You just keep repeating the same thing. He said that he's a mondfreak on live tv. Why would I believe you if I heard em say this?

Use your commen sense.

You have no common sense. Search the web for interview where he admits. Do you believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny? How old for you?
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1254135[/snapback]

You have no common sense. Search the web for interview where he admits. Do you believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny? How old for you?

FYI, you're the moron who says that he said this. If you want me to believe it, you're suppose to post your evidence. thumbsup.gif And no one believes in Santa. rolleyes.gif
I'd estimate your age range at around 8. wink2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]1254149[/snapback]

FYI, you're the moron who says that he said this. If you want me to believe it, you're suppose to post your evidence. thumbsup.gif And no one believes in Santa. rolleyes.gif
I'd estimate your age range at around 8. wink2.gif

Are you getting angry? Your age is showing.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]1254153[/snapback]

Are you getting angry? Your age is showing.

No, I'm actually quite entertained by your stupidity. original.gif

So hows about posting that link? Wait.. that's right, you don't have one.
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frogfish
http://www.geocities.com/criss_angelweb/cainterview.htm

I recommend you watch the "Science of Magic". A Discovery Channel Show in which Harry Anderson and Criss Angel acted in..Criss himself shows how they are just illusions...not "magic"..No superpowers, just a form of art.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]1254160[/snapback]

No, I'm actually quite entertained by your stupidity. original.gif

So hows about posting that link? Wait.. that's right, you don't have one.
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I will have to search for it. Do you know how silly you look thinking a magician is real?LMAO w00t.gif
Searching for Answers
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 02:14 PM) [snapback]1254163[/snapback]

I will have to search for it. Do you know how silly you look thinking a magician is real?LMAO w00t.gif

Yet another one of your ignorant posts. wink2.gif
Did I say a magician was real? Call it whatever you want, what I'm basically saying is that he can move stuff without touching it, he can read minds etc. thumbsup.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 1 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]1254162[/snapback]

http://www.geocities.com/criss_angelweb/cainterview.htm

I recommend you watch the "Science of Magic". A Discovery Channel Show in which Harry Anderson and Criss Angel acted in..Criss himself shows how they are just illusions...not "magic"..No superpowers, just a form of art.

Bullseye. Thanks froggy. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 1 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]1254162[/snapback]

Criss himself shows how they are just illusions...not "magic"..No superpowers, just a form of art.

Yes, THOSE were just illusions. As I said, he admits to being an illusionist, a magician, and a mindfreak. You're saying that he says all these things on tv then admits to being fake? Why would he do this?

And yes, Criss Angel doesn't consider his gift to be a "superpower". That's not what I said.
frogfish
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You're saying that he says all these things on tv then admits to being fake? Why would he do this?

He doesn't say them on TV...If you can, watch The Science of Magic thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 1 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1254184[/snapback]

He doesn't say them on TV...If you can, watch The Science of Magic thumbsup.gif

When does it come on?
And he does call himself a mindfreak on tv... at least in his themesong.
frogfish
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And he does call himself a mindfreak on tv... at least in his themesong.

LOL, it's his THEMESONG!

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The Skeptic Eric Raven
I have never seen someone so steadfast to believe in someone who says they don't believe in psychic powers.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1254323[/snapback]

I have never seen someone so steadfast to believe in someone who says they don't believe in psychic powers.

So I guess just because you don't believe in something, it's not true? sleepy.gif Funny how your little imaginary world works. rofl.gif

I just noticed your sig btw. The entire reason you joined this forum was to "be a skeptic"? You seriously need a life man. I'm not waisting anymore of my time arguing with you. sleepy.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
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QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1254365[/snapback]

So I guess just because you don't believe in something, it's not true? sleepy.gif Funny how your little imaginary world works. rofl.gif
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Yes. Talk about imaginary world. You are the one that believes in xmen powers.lol. Silly wabbit. w00t.gif
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]1254368[/snapback]

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Yes. Talk about imaginary world. You are the one that believes in xmen powers.lol. Silly wabbit. w00t.gif

Xmen powers? I don't even want to know where you got that. rofl.gif

And you're just proving my point FYI. wink2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1254365[/snapback]


I just noticed your sig btw. The entire reason you joined this forum was to "be a skeptic". You seriously need a life man. I'm not waisting anymore of my time arguing with you. :sleep:

Bye bye then. I will always be here to counter your silliness. thumbsup.gif I suggest you check out that link that Froggy gave you. Maybe it will smarten you up.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:21 PM) [snapback]1254369[/snapback]

Xmen powers? I don't even want to know where you got that. rofl.gif

And you're just proving my point FYI. wink2.gif

You believe that Criss Angel has psychic powers(xmen powers). Psychic powers have never, ever, ever been proved. Silly wabbit. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1254370[/snapback]

Bye bye then. I will always be here to counter your silliness. thumbsup.gif I suggest you check out that link that Froggy gave you. Maybe it will smarten you up.

I did look at it, like I said, he's also an illusionist.

And billions, yes BILLIONS of people believe that he has "xmen" powers, according to studies.

And yes I did post again just to tell you this. Don't make a big deal over it. wink2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1254381[/snapback]

I did look at it, like I said, he's also an illusionist.

And billions, yes BILLIONS of people believe that he has "xmen" powers, according to studies.

And yes I did post again just to tell you this. Don't make a big deal over it. wink2.gif

I thought you were going to stop posting. Billions don't believe. Your wrong, wabbit.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 05:33 PM) [snapback]1254385[/snapback]

I thought you were going to stop posting. Billions don't believe. Your wrong, wabbit.

I wasn't arguing, just telling you that billions of people do believe. And yes they do accordging to studies. wink2.gif
marik
I watch that show sometimes when I am bored. Its obviously done with some sort of trick. I know this really isin't the reply that you're looking for but it's just the TV industry and I am not suprised by their "magic". original.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:36 PM) [snapback]1254388[/snapback]

I wasn't arguing, just telling you that billions of people do believe. And yes they do accordging to studies. wink2.gif

You lied. You are still posting. Show me this study that polls billions of people.

QUOTE(marik @ Jul 1 2006, 05:38 PM) [snapback]1254391[/snapback]

I watch that show sometimes when I am bored. Its obviously done with some sort of trick. I know this really isin't the reply that you're looking for but it's just the TV industry and I am not suprised by their "magic". original.gif

Thankyou.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]1254392[/snapback]

You lied. You are still posting. Show me this study that polls billions of people.

I said I wasn't going to argue with you, not stop posting. And I doubt I will be able to find it but I'll try.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1254394[/snapback]

I said I wasn't going to argue with you, not stop posting. And I doubt I will be able to find it but I'll try.

Liar, liar pants on fire. Of course you can't find the poll it doesn't exist. Otherwise every man woman and child would have been polled. Silly wabbit.
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QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 1 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]1254395[/snapback]

Liar, liar pants on fire.

And you sa I'M immature. rofl.gif

QUOTE(marik @ Jul 1 2006, 05:38 PM) [snapback]1254391[/snapback]

it's just the TV industry and I am not suprised by their "magic". original.gif

I'm not going into this again.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]1254397[/snapback]

And you sa I'M immature. rofl.gif
I'm not going into this again.

Where is that billions poll. I think you should change your name to Searching for Criss.lol
frogfish
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And yes they do accordging to studies

What studies? rolleyes.gif You can take your foot out of your mouth now... laugh.gif
Pax Unum
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1254381[/snapback]
And billions, yes BILLIONS of people believe that he has "xmen" powers, according to studies.

I don't believe 'BILLIONS' think some illusionist has x-men power's... could you back that statement up, and supply a link to that study?... dontgetit.gif
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I guess so...
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What color were its eyes? If red, then I'd say it was the mothman, although there haven't been that many sightings since the Silver Bridge collapsed.
frogfish
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What color were its eyes? If red, then I'd say it was the mothman, although there haven't been that many sightings since the Silver Bridge collapsed.

WTF? Where did that come from?
openmind1963
he's an excellent magician for sure,but there is a trick behind all magic!
i thought the best illusion he performed on the show was when he shoved his arm through the fella's chest a few episodes back.
magician72120
QUOTE(Searching for Answers @ Jul 1 2006, 02:19 PM) [snapback]1254172[/snapback]
Call it whatever you want, what I'm basically saying is that he can move stuff without touching it, he can read minds etc. thumbsup.gif


Both of those things are illusions. Moving things without touching them and "mind reading" are both common tricks used by magicians worldwide. The possibility of camera tricks and editing aside, both of those feats can be accomplished without camera effects and editing. i use both of those effects in my shows and although it is quite convincing...it IS an illusion.
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