Full Version: Criss Angel: Mind Freak
I didn't read all 34 pages of this thread, so forgive me if this question has already been asked and/or explained. I'm most puzzled by the trick where Criss asks this lady sitting at a table to take off her ring. He then puts it on the table, places his hands over the ring...and the ring ends up in the lady's drink...frozen in an ice cube. Was she in on it? If not, can anyone explain this trick, besides the obvious.
Criss Angel is one interesting "Illusionist"
I watched "Mindfreak" faithfully, and he never ceased to amaze me, he totally
blows my mind, Plus he is one sexy dude
Unfortunley I don't think he will live a long LIFE, he takes way too many chances that are dangerous
I watched "Mindfreak" faithfully, and he never ceased to amaze me, he totally
blows my mind, Plus he is one sexy dude
Unfortunley I don't think he will live a long LIFE, he takes way too many chances that are dangerous
QUOTE(NYCinematographer @ May 6 2007, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1661881[/snapback]
This will.
First, I think we can all agree that it's not real? I mean, he obviously didn't really bisect a human being! So, now we're down to how did he make us think he did.
You are assuming everything in the segment was shot in real-time. After having watched the video, and as someone who has worked in the motion picture industry for nearly 30 years, I can assure you it was not. Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar7jkOpnYMc and I'll try to point everything out for you.
For lack of a more-sensitive term, a "complete" lady is chosen from the "crowd" and lies down on the bench. When the view switches between her right side & left (between 1:10 and 1:11 on the counter), this is an EDIT involving the passage of time. The jump cut (i.e., the edit) is revealed by the changed position of the shadow underneath the bench, as well as the resting positions of both "helpers". Pause the video, and if you manually try to move the slider back and forth between 1:08 and 1:10/1:11 you will easily see the discrepancies between the two shots. Note particularly the change in shadow position underneath the girl holding the legs. This indicates at least a 5-minute progression of the sun.
A legless lady is now lying on the bench, inside a gimmicked costume, along with a small or very young person acting as the legs (note the smaller ankles and slightly-trimmer "mid-section"). The "legs" performer is lying on the ground underneath the bench with her legs held in a sitting position against the edge of the bench, with the prop skirt resting on her shins and concealing her presence. If you pause the video at 1:38, not only will you see the position of the shadow under the bench has again changed dramatically (suggesting yet another edit - possibly to allow the "legs" performer to move to the top of the bench) but the stature of this person can be better seen.
The fact that there are edits which allowed substitution of performers and props further tells us that everyone in the background is either "in" on the trick, or was otherwise distracted by some ruse while the switch was made (which, of course, we're not allowed to see). The women on the bench, and those holding onto them, are most certainly confederates.
When the gag is sprung, notice the accomplice holding the ankles doesn't pull at all, yet the other one pulls the lady fully across the bench, off the end, and gently helps her to the ground - all BEFORE reacting and running off screaming. Another reveal.
This is no different than an effect made for a feature picture, but it's rather unimpressive for a magician's repertoire. Anyone can do anything in editing!
Best,
NYCinematographer
First, I think we can all agree that it's not real? I mean, he obviously didn't really bisect a human being! So, now we're down to how did he make us think he did.
You are assuming everything in the segment was shot in real-time. After having watched the video, and as someone who has worked in the motion picture industry for nearly 30 years, I can assure you it was not. Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar7jkOpnYMc and I'll try to point everything out for you.
For lack of a more-sensitive term, a "complete" lady is chosen from the "crowd" and lies down on the bench. When the view switches between her right side & left (between 1:10 and 1:11 on the counter), this is an EDIT involving the passage of time. The jump cut (i.e., the edit) is revealed by the changed position of the shadow underneath the bench, as well as the resting positions of both "helpers". Pause the video, and if you manually try to move the slider back and forth between 1:08 and 1:10/1:11 you will easily see the discrepancies between the two shots. Note particularly the change in shadow position underneath the girl holding the legs. This indicates at least a 5-minute progression of the sun.
A legless lady is now lying on the bench, inside a gimmicked costume, along with a small or very young person acting as the legs (note the smaller ankles and slightly-trimmer "mid-section"). The "legs" performer is lying on the ground underneath the bench with her legs held in a sitting position against the edge of the bench, with the prop skirt resting on her shins and concealing her presence. If you pause the video at 1:38, not only will you see the position of the shadow under the bench has again changed dramatically (suggesting yet another edit - possibly to allow the "legs" performer to move to the top of the bench) but the stature of this person can be better seen.
The fact that there are edits which allowed substitution of performers and props further tells us that everyone in the background is either "in" on the trick, or was otherwise distracted by some ruse while the switch was made (which, of course, we're not allowed to see). The women on the bench, and those holding onto them, are most certainly confederates.
When the gag is sprung, notice the accomplice holding the ankles doesn't pull at all, yet the other one pulls the lady fully across the bench, off the end, and gently helps her to the ground - all BEFORE reacting and running off screaming. Another reveal.
This is no different than an effect made for a feature picture, but it's rather unimpressive for a magician's repertoire. Anyone can do anything in editing!
Best,
NYCinematographer
Thanks for the insight. Just wondering, how did he manage to do the "lady running with her arms" scene?
I would like to propose a theory about the recent trick (a video clip shown last night on Jay Leno) of Chris Angel splitting in half a girl in a park.
First, the girl in the trick was disabled and most talented I might add. An athletic woman well practiced in propelling her upper-body with her arms, as evidenced by her expertly moving away from prosthetics when her body was separated.
The prosthetic legs and hips were like "stilts" on which she mounted herself (obviously after much practice!). She moved on these prosthetic limbs with relative ease.
If my theory is correct, then for her to mount these prosthetic legs and hips, her body would have to be that of a midget. Her head being normal size, and her midget body missing her legs due to an accident or birth defect. So, to recap, if you can wrap your mind around what I'm saying, imagine a midget woman (where midgets often have normal size heads but smaller bodies) who is disabled and missing her legs and wearing a normal sized blouse covering her small body. She is mobile, capable of moving around quickly using just her very strong arms. She is good at balancing and learned to cradle her body into the hips of the prosthetics. Using the legs like stilts, wearing clothing to make it appear she has a normal sized torsoe, she is able to go out in public as do many disabled folks with prosthetics. Although these prosthetics are very unique. Chris Angel couldn't resist the opportunity. I'm not suggesting he's exploiting her. Quite the contrary. She wanted to be part of this mind-boggling stunt.
Of course, there might be witnesses claiming to know the girl. If another girl was involved (and the girl on prosthetic limbs was switched for the actual stunt) then the original girl must have been in on it! I didn't see the footage of Chris putting her back together, but suspect that it was someone many at the park knew (a regular to the park). She somehow switched with the girl on prosthetics. Stunt performed. The girl was put back together and the original girl was switched back again.
This is all a theory of mine, filling in the gaps with my sixth sense. After seeing her skillfully "sprint" away from her body using her arms, it reminded me of a special on television about disabled people without legs. I recall a woman who was very skillful at maneuvering around her house with just her arms, doing practically everything, it was amazing. I immediately recognized that aspect. If I'm correct, then if she hadn't been such a show-off and remained near the other half of her body (perhaps slowly dragging herself away) then my mind wouldn't have gone down this road. However, it all seems to make sense, what I just theorized. It's really very clever of Chris to improvise in this manner, giving someone disabled the opportunity to become part of an amazing trick. No wonder he has won awards in magic, the incredible talent required to pull off an illusion of this depth!
First, the girl in the trick was disabled and most talented I might add. An athletic woman well practiced in propelling her upper-body with her arms, as evidenced by her expertly moving away from prosthetics when her body was separated.
The prosthetic legs and hips were like "stilts" on which she mounted herself (obviously after much practice!). She moved on these prosthetic limbs with relative ease.
If my theory is correct, then for her to mount these prosthetic legs and hips, her body would have to be that of a midget. Her head being normal size, and her midget body missing her legs due to an accident or birth defect. So, to recap, if you can wrap your mind around what I'm saying, imagine a midget woman (where midgets often have normal size heads but smaller bodies) who is disabled and missing her legs and wearing a normal sized blouse covering her small body. She is mobile, capable of moving around quickly using just her very strong arms. She is good at balancing and learned to cradle her body into the hips of the prosthetics. Using the legs like stilts, wearing clothing to make it appear she has a normal sized torsoe, she is able to go out in public as do many disabled folks with prosthetics. Although these prosthetics are very unique. Chris Angel couldn't resist the opportunity. I'm not suggesting he's exploiting her. Quite the contrary. She wanted to be part of this mind-boggling stunt.
Of course, there might be witnesses claiming to know the girl. If another girl was involved (and the girl on prosthetic limbs was switched for the actual stunt) then the original girl must have been in on it! I didn't see the footage of Chris putting her back together, but suspect that it was someone many at the park knew (a regular to the park). She somehow switched with the girl on prosthetics. Stunt performed. The girl was put back together and the original girl was switched back again.
This is all a theory of mine, filling in the gaps with my sixth sense. After seeing her skillfully "sprint" away from her body using her arms, it reminded me of a special on television about disabled people without legs. I recall a woman who was very skillful at maneuvering around her house with just her arms, doing practically everything, it was amazing. I immediately recognized that aspect. If I'm correct, then if she hadn't been such a show-off and remained near the other half of her body (perhaps slowly dragging herself away) then my mind wouldn't have gone down this road. However, it all seems to make sense, what I just theorized. It's really very clever of Chris to improvise in this manner, giving someone disabled the opportunity to become part of an amazing trick. No wonder he has won awards in magic, the incredible talent required to pull off an illusion of this depth!
QUOTE(redstone @ May 8 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]1664806[/snapback]
Thanks for the insight. Just wondering, how did he manage to do the "lady running with her arms" scene?
That was the legless lady, who replaced the "normal" lady on the bench after the camera was stopped (the edit point I previously mentioned). She was born without legs, so that is how she's moved around her entire life.
QUOTE(curious111)
The prosthetic legs and hips were like "stilts" on which she mounted herself (obviously after much practice!). She moved on these prosthetic limbs with relative ease.
You're giving the filmmaker (I resist calling him a magician) more credit than is due. There were no prostetics. It was two different women, and they were obviously switched on the bench, the time taken to do this edited out -- as the changed position of the shadows clearly reveal. It's nothing more difficult or elaborate than that.
Incidentally, I believe the legless woman's name is Rose Siggins. She's gotten quite a bit of press.
Oddly enough....
How can fake legs move their toes?
How can fake legs move their toes?
The pictures of the guy levitation posted above are not real magic. Real magic does not exist and thus there is no proof of it or any captured evidence. The lady being split in half is an elaborate gimmick/camera set-up trick. Anymore questions?
The dude in the above pic. is balancing himself on a piece of wood that is under his jacket, which appears to be held down by gravity, i mean, if you can levitate yourself, why not your jacket also??
You're wrong about the method he is using to levitate, but yes there is a practical method.
QUOTE(_hAiLO_ @ Jul 25 2005, 12:27 AM) [snapback]751999[/snapback]
I know, its like a very confusing metaphysical community altogether. I see this and that, and yet people say that and this, and it all conflicts.
Magicians do this on stages and show people, like levitation. That means one thing can be said, Levitation is Real. But I just want to know if anyone out there has an explanation to this?
By means of illusion, do you mean 'Holographic Projector'?
Magicians do this on stages and show people, like levitation. That means one thing can be said, Levitation is Real. But I just want to know if anyone out there has an explanation to this?
By means of illusion, do you mean 'Holographic Projector'?
In case no one posted this yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFvetRFj7A0
Hmmm well this is all tres interesting.
I am a beyond huge Criss Angel fan.
I hear and read a lot of stuff about him that's not so flattering and sometimes a little pathetic and immature. Drives me insane. If you don't like something, don't watch it, shut up and leave it to the people who do care about it.
I love him and I love what he does. I never, ever want to know how he does any of his grand illusions. All I care about is that he is very entertaining and, well, inexplicably hot.
I am a beyond huge Criss Angel fan.
I hear and read a lot of stuff about him that's not so flattering and sometimes a little pathetic and immature. Drives me insane. If you don't like something, don't watch it, shut up and leave it to the people who do care about it.
I love him and I love what he does. I never, ever want to know how he does any of his grand illusions. All I care about is that he is very entertaining and, well, inexplicably hot.
Well he has a tape out that explains how he does every single trick hes done so far. Soooooo yeah.... 
i havent gone threw all 35 pages maybe half....but here is chris himself telling you how to do one of his tricks yall keep wondering about,,and there is nothing magic about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTFXud-GUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTFXud-GUQ
im watching him him right now. he just got run over by a hummer while he was lying on a bed of nails 
Criss Angel is an entertainer not a magician neither an illusionist. He didn’t deserve the magician of the year award since most of his big tricks are mini-plays and not even complete. In the trick were he cuts himself in half he never puts himself back together, neither the lady he cuts in half, who runs away wtf. I can’t find any of his big and mind-confusing tricks perform live on stage or in a theater. Actually I can’t find him performing in a stage anything. By these facts I can tell everyone, even the short minded ones that believes that what he does is real magic, that most of his tricks uses camera cuts and camera angle to hide stuff, and the people that you see on the videos are part of trick 80% of the time. Using camera angle is not a illusion, is special effects, so he deserve a Oscar on special effects not the award of magic. Actually I wouldn’t give that award to anyone that doesn’t do trick in front of huge crowd on a theater stage.
QUOTE(Jesus_is_King @ Nov 13 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]1426430[/snapback]
The forces Chriss Angel uses are completely real. There are no mirrors or people pulling wires. Demons are what allow him to do his tricks. He probably thinks the demons are his assistants who submit to his every whim because he has overpowered them with his mind/inner self/spirit guide, but really, HE is the assistant! All every demon wants is for every single person on earth to be dead. The demons could kill him at any moment, but that wouldn't be advantageous for them. Through Criss, the demons are affecting so many people and drawing them into the new age demonic realm. The demonic realm is fascinating and I understand the pull it has. It pull me too, but regardless of how much it fascinates me, I don't go there anymore because I have found something more powerful. Jesus Christ is more powerful than any demon or Satan could be. It doesn't really matter if a person hates God or Jesus; wouldn't a person want to be on the side that's more powerful? Some people might say they will not base blind thinking on a musty old book(Bible), but if Jesus talks to you himself, it's not blind at all is it? If you are really interested in the spirit world that's more real than this earth, and you really want to be able to know 100% what you beleive, what you know, what happens when you die, and what your life is for, then please search with all your heart, and with all your mind, and with all your soul and you WILL find the answer. Reach out to God and reach out to Jesus, and don't discount them until you KNOW it's not right. God must answer you then. Talk to God, talk to Jesus and yearn for the truth and they will answer you. I know a person and have heard of many more, who became a christian and began talking to Jesus all the time. And Jesus would tell him things all the time. Eventually he started reading the bible a lot, and he realized that many of the things in the bible he already knew because Jesus had told him personally. There can be no doubt in people's minds when Jesus talks to them personally.
If you do not believe in the power God possesses, I dare you to find out. First of all, I dare you to ask God if he's there(out loud/to yourself it doesn't matter). Ask Jesus if he can hear you. Say "Holy Spirit rain down on me, Jesus speak to me, God hear me". Demons hate people to mention those names in that way. If you can't physically speak these words, that is very serious. If you have an inner guide or another spirit, be ready for him to become angry with you for saying that or change form and become very mean. If you don't believe in Jesus or his power, or don't believe saying that will affect anything, then what's it going to hurt to say that? Just try it and want an answer from God.
Ok. If you conjure up spirits or are involed directly with the spirit realm, try saying "Jesus" or "Blood of Jesus" in their presence. You will be shocked at the reaction a spirit will have if you can manage to get that out of your mouth. If you can manage that, try quoting scripture and you will experience first hand the power not even the presence of God, but just the word of God has on spirits.
John 3: 16-17
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17God did not send his Son into the world to condemn it, but to save it."
and Isaiah 40: 28-31
"28 Have you never heard or understood? Don't you know that the Lord is everlasting God, the Creator of all the earth? He never grows faint or weary. No one can measure the depths of his understanding. 29He gives power to those who are tired and worn out; he offers strength to the weak. 30Even youths will become exhausted, and young men will give up. 31But those who wait on the Lord will find new strength. They will fly high on wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not faint."
are good places to start. I dare you to say that in the presence of a spirit or inner guide. In this moment your very life could be in danger because the spirit will be furious at you. You can really only do one thing at this moment. You must ask Jesus to save you. When you realize that your own strength and the power of your mind cannot overcome the spirit, then remember this to prevent it from killing you. Say "Jesus! Save me! I accept you! I give my life to you." Then, face the spirit head on and say, "I command you to leave in Jesus' name! Go at once to the dry places!" If he doesn't leave immediately you can keep quoting scripture, but regardless of how long it takes, the spirit must leave and Jesus WILL save you.
You really don't have to listen to any human. Ask God yourself and find out for yourself the truth.
If you do not believe in the power God possesses, I dare you to find out. First of all, I dare you to ask God if he's there(out loud/to yourself it doesn't matter). Ask Jesus if he can hear you. Say "Holy Spirit rain down on me, Jesus speak to me, God hear me". Demons hate people to mention those names in that way. If you can't physically speak these words, that is very serious. If you have an inner guide or another spirit, be ready for him to become angry with you for saying that or change form and become very mean. If you don't believe in Jesus or his power, or don't believe saying that will affect anything, then what's it going to hurt to say that? Just try it and want an answer from God.
Ok. If you conjure up spirits or are involed directly with the spirit realm, try saying "Jesus" or "Blood of Jesus" in their presence. You will be shocked at the reaction a spirit will have if you can manage to get that out of your mouth. If you can manage that, try quoting scripture and you will experience first hand the power not even the presence of God, but just the word of God has on spirits.
John 3: 16-17
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17God did not send his Son into the world to condemn it, but to save it."
and Isaiah 40: 28-31
"28 Have you never heard or understood? Don't you know that the Lord is everlasting God, the Creator of all the earth? He never grows faint or weary. No one can measure the depths of his understanding. 29He gives power to those who are tired and worn out; he offers strength to the weak. 30Even youths will become exhausted, and young men will give up. 31But those who wait on the Lord will find new strength. They will fly high on wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not faint."
are good places to start. I dare you to say that in the presence of a spirit or inner guide. In this moment your very life could be in danger because the spirit will be furious at you. You can really only do one thing at this moment. You must ask Jesus to save you. When you realize that your own strength and the power of your mind cannot overcome the spirit, then remember this to prevent it from killing you. Say "Jesus! Save me! I accept you! I give my life to you." Then, face the spirit head on and say, "I command you to leave in Jesus' name! Go at once to the dry places!" If he doesn't leave immediately you can keep quoting scripture, but regardless of how long it takes, the spirit must leave and Jesus WILL save you.
You really don't have to listen to any human. Ask God yourself and find out for yourself the truth.
You are absolutely correct brother. Hop on over to this forum and see what I wrote about David Blaine and Chriss Angel:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthr...threadid=409876
Jesus_is_King, Allah talks to me. He told me Jesus does not exist.
People who belive in supernatural power such are sorcerie, witchcraft, demons, angels are more shortminded and morons that the ones who believes that politician are good and doesn't steal money. Plain and simple that sh** doesn't exist. Criss angel is a actor whos trick are mini-movies using actors as crowd and camera cuts to hide mirrors, plataform and ect. David Blain on the other side, do the same but without camera cuts and all his tricks have aftermaths, also he use less people in his trick. For example that time that he stayed inside ice for a long time had nothing to do with supernatural power, just human endurance. He trained himself, asked doctors and ect.
in the topic of Jesus, i have to say that he probably was a liar like any other people out there now that claim that they can make miracle. the movie Leap of Faith (1992) present what everyone who claims to do miracle really do (exept the part where the real miracle happens, witch is a lie). I'm not atheist since i do beliave something, witch is kind of crontradictorie because if there was nothing in the universe, nothing can be created out of nothing and that creation force can't exist unless it was the nothing itself, anyways that creation force, not the one decribe in bible (witch is a novel, who the curch impose by killing lots of people as the "real thing") but "the creation force" is god.
QUOTE(_hAiLO_ @ Jul 25 2005, 01:43 AM) [snapback]751966[/snapback]
Yeah, but are they real? In his show, he has shown you that:
Levitation is Real
And if you care to state otherwise, I welcome you to debunk like crazy.
Levitation is Real
And if you care to state otherwise, I welcome you to debunk like crazy.
No, he is not actually levitating, he shows how it does it on a Youtube video, he is still the best though.
QUOTE(Tripero @ Jun 6 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]1711790[/snapback]
People who belive in supernatural power such are sorcerie, witchcraft, demons, angels are more shortminded and morons that the ones who believes that politician are good and doesn't steal money. Plain and simple that sh** doesn't exist. Criss angel is a actor whos trick are mini-movies using actors as crowd and camera cuts to hide mirrors, plataform and ect. David Blain on the other side, do the same but without camera cuts and all his tricks have aftermaths, also he use less people in his trick. For example that time that he stayed inside ice for a long time had nothing to do with supernatural power, just human endurance. He trained himself, asked doctors and ect.
Wow.. being stuck in ice.. lmao, Criss Angel escaped from the bottom of a part of the ocean having to pick 5 locks to do so... he also held his breath for four mintues while untieing a Somalian knot sequence, has ridden on a helicopter being connected by nothing but his skin, and has been droven on top of by a H2 Hummer while laying on a bed of nails.. forget the levitation tricks, the real stuff that this guy has done destroys David Blaine's holding his breath for like 5 minutes without doing anything at all and then having a seizure afterward lol... and Criss Angel is way cooler and like girls, not guys..
QUOTE(Zero of Deism @ Jun 6 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]1711419[/snapback]
Jesus_is_King, Allah talks to me. He told me Jesus does not exist.
Thats very unfortunate zero, but if you were actually being serious and not trying to pick a fight with a Christian like you always seem to do on this site, you would realize that in the koran "allah" believes Jesus to be a prophet of God, so if you really did believe in allah as your god then he would not tell you such rubbish. But I wouldnt put anything past you zero.
QUOTE(RamboIII @ Jun 7 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]1712561[/snapback]
Wow.. being stuck in ice.. lmao, Criss Angel escaped from the bottom of a part of the ocean having to pick 5 locks to do so... he also held his breath for four mintues while untieing a Somalian knot sequence, has ridden on a helicopter being connected by nothing but his skin, and has been droven on top of by a H2 Hummer while laying on a bed of nails.. forget the levitation tricks, the real stuff that this guy has done destroys David Blaine's holding his breath for like 5 minutes without doing anything at all and then having a seizure afterward lol... and Criss Angel is way cooler and like girls, not guys..
dude it was for 72 hours, in las vegas in a open area were you could go see him if u wanted too. The only people that see Criss Angel performing his trick lives are the actors working for him lol get over it. criss angel is the best at what he do, but it isn't real magic, niether illusions. just camera tricks hehe.
QUOTE(Yasha @ Jul 26 2005, 07:16 AM) [snapback]754063[/snapback]
oooh I did the above illusion in grade 2 or 3...
But yeah, alot of these levitation things are amazing.. even if they're fake, they're very entertaining and very well thought out... Great illusion
But yeah, alot of these levitation things are amazing.. even if they're fake, they're very entertaining and very well thought out... Great illusion
I am interested in levitation, solely because with my disability my legs feel like lead, and just to feel the weightlessness to take the pressure off my legs would be great.
As for the lines, they are both the same size.
Criss Angel does in fact seem to be levitating, as you can't photoshop shadows that sync with the movement. However, whether his ability is G-d given is uncertain, but extraterrestrials certainly have an interest in him, which leads me to think he is an abductee, contactee, experiencer. They may be observing people's reactions to what he does as was shown in the clip when he levitated at the golf club.
However, I saw his explanation for his levitation a couple of feet in the air. It doesn't explain how he moves between buildings and over trees and there is no sign of any trickery involved.
As a believer in G-d, and Yeshua, I know that all things are possible, as I have had experiences from the age of four. However, I am concerned that these acts of levitation could mislead people down the wrong path, as you don't know which side of the fence he is on. Does his power come from G-d, or is he a servant of the dark side. Once I see him give an explanation for the building levitations then I will know one way or the other.
However, looking at his website, it has satanic overtones, which concern me.
So..am I the only one who thinks this guy is a complete con artist?
i hate to say it, but he has gotten a bit shabby lately, i mean, i could totally see how he levitated in the luxor, and figured out how he made that hummer dissapear a while ago because ive seen two people from the "audience" in other tricks aswell :/
QUOTE(xxbattlescarxx @ Jun 15 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]1725196[/snapback]
i hate to say it, but he has gotten a bit shabby lately, i mean, i could totally see how he levitated in the luxor, and figured out how he made that hummer dissapear a while ago because ive seen two people from the "audience" in other tricks aswell :/
Exactly, all his tricks are like that. Just special camera effect, mirros, plataform and fake audience.
QUOTE(Nephilim_Slayer @ Jun 10 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1717683[/snapback]
Thats very unfortunate zero, but if you were actually being serious and not trying to pick a fight with a Christian like you always seem to do on this site, you would realize that in the koran "allah" believes Jesus to be a prophet of God, so if you really did believe in allah as your god then he would not tell you such rubbish. But I wouldnt put anything past you zero.
I wasn't picking a fight, just wanted to see his logic behind figureing out who's experiences are real and who must be lying. Tis' all, don't get all upset.
QUOTE(_hAiLO_ @ Jul 28 2005, 06:01 AM) 
You guys keep telling me, 'Its an Illusion', 'Its impossible', 'Its just a trick'. And I do understand that a magician cannot reveal his secrets as you pointed out Rayce. But as far as you guys trying to tell me the truth, your telling me that what ever paranormal Criss Angel performs, he is a total fake.
Yes, your giving me theories that the volunteers are not actually volunteers, but very good actors just playing along. A very interesting theory, but that still doesn't explain how the 'Levitation' is fake. The girl still levitated from the ground and was afloat in mid air, I have never heard of an acting trick that can go as far.
Another interesting theory, Criss Angel makes our minds perceive that he is levitating, but he really isn't. Does that mean your promoting another metaphysical feat? That magician can alter our minds from a camera's point of view? If he really isn't levitating and the illusion is just tricking our minds...in my opinion, that is very illogical.
Whatever is recorded on camera is recorded on camera. Correct me if i'm wrong, but an illusion doesn't have to do with the alteration of film so that Criss Angel looks like hes levitating. Also correct me if i'm wrong, an illusion doesn't have to do with the placing of mirrors? I didn't see mirrors on the street (not that it would have effect, there is a very large crowd around the performance.
What i'm trying to say that, you guys are telling me that his performances are only illusions, which gives me the notion that your proclaiming it as false occurences. I see things on camera and I think its true, I wanna know why you guys think its false
Yes, your giving me theories that the volunteers are not actually volunteers, but very good actors just playing along. A very interesting theory, but that still doesn't explain how the 'Levitation' is fake. The girl still levitated from the ground and was afloat in mid air, I have never heard of an acting trick that can go as far.
Another interesting theory, Criss Angel makes our minds perceive that he is levitating, but he really isn't. Does that mean your promoting another metaphysical feat? That magician can alter our minds from a camera's point of view? If he really isn't levitating and the illusion is just tricking our minds...in my opinion, that is very illogical.
Whatever is recorded on camera is recorded on camera. Correct me if i'm wrong, but an illusion doesn't have to do with the alteration of film so that Criss Angel looks like hes levitating. Also correct me if i'm wrong, an illusion doesn't have to do with the placing of mirrors? I didn't see mirrors on the street (not that it would have effect, there is a very large crowd around the performance.
What i'm trying to say that, you guys are telling me that his performances are only illusions, which gives me the notion that your proclaiming it as false occurences. I see things on camera and I think its true, I wanna know why you guys think its false
ok. you want the truth. Yes he does Illusion BUT he does real stunts. Like the fishhooks, they are real. He does real life risking stunts. He is also an illusionist. He calls himself MindFreak so as not to be limited in his career to just the things of illusionists or magicians.
Have you read his book? The one he wrote. It's great that you have faith and I still have faith in him as a performer and an artist. But he himself in his nook no media people magizine rumor crap. he did say he does perform tricks. but since that is not all he does he does not call everyting he does tricks. he considers them all as demonstrasions. I am a VERY deticated fan so do not take me a ranting or dissing Criss because I am telling youw hat he wants his fans to know. He does tricks. He also does very real stunts. a quote from the book "look obviously I can;t make an elephant dissapear"
another important quote "Yes, I have a television show, but every trick, every MINDFREAK you see, I can do live"
but no no camera affects, and for levitating, no helicopter. He does NOT pre-arrange things with fans. If he cannot truely pull it off live he will NOT air it on television.
as for his "psycic powers" He is a mentalist. Quote form criss "It looks very real. As a mentalist, I want you to believe I can read your mind-hear you innermost thoughts. While I don't personally believe in psychic ability, alot of people think a good mentalist possesses psychic skills. While I don't have an supernatural powers, I do have the power of observation. We all do. You just need to learn to tap into yours as I have done with mind"
Don't get me wrong, Criss is EXTREMELY telented and has taken much phisycal pain in his stunts, as for his illusions, he practices for hours on end, learning not only to perfect the trick itself, but to perfect his own emotional effect on his audience using words and actions. He must divert your attention from what he does not want you to notice, and completely mesmerises you with his movements. That is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. He can litterally control the reactions and emotions of the audience, while they think they are in complete control instead, during a performence, with no use of special powers, just great skill.
He does not ell you whats real or whats not because he enjoys hearing what we all think, and he lets us decide what;s real or not. because we are usually wrong when we decide which is which.
(I believed everything he did was real supernatural powers until I read his book, of his words, but do NOT let that drift you from believing in him as an artist and performer. He worked extremely hard to become what he is today and get this far. and I will garrantee I am NOT making anything up from my own mind, this is all from what he said in his book. He wrote his book so he could tell us everything he ever needed to, and everything he thought you should know. He wants us to know him on a personal level.
and like I said. Please Please read his book he wrote -I read it 4 times already- it's worth the money. Here it was about $24.00. It is called Secret Revaltaions.)
ph and by the way. you seem like you are a true fan, you believe in what he does without dout and I respect you. But now the question is. Will you love him even after you discover all the truths, after you discover he is a normal guy, who worked hard for his dream with no help of super powers, that he got here by himself, and He wants you to know that you can do great things like him maybe even more even if you're not a magician or mindfreak or w/e, my last quote "If you can dream it you can achieve it.". That will prove if you are a TRUE fan.
I want to spread the word of Criss Angel, the word he wants to be heard.
I appologise for the bad spelling, overly deep, and very long reply, but once i start I really get caught up in the moment.
You should contact me at: Lady_Nebica@yahoo.com
oh and, good luck.
Nebica (Loyal)
The man has talent that is for sure.
QUOTE(scpg02 @ Sep 7 2007, 11:59 PM)
The man has talent that is for sure.
Yours is the only reply I can agree with. I don't understand what makes some people BELIEVE that what Criss does is real. These people need a mental tune-up! He is good at what he does, but there are individuals out there who can take some of his illusions apart and some examples of these detailed explanations can be found on YouTube such as the levitation he did between two buildings. It looks impressive on first viewing but once you view it constantly looking at different areas of the screen you'll see that the levitation was not done in one take. The sky conditions change while he's seen floating. People that are seen from one angle are not there when the angle changes, and so on. He shows how he levitates up to a chair by showing us his split pants. I saw him remove a manhole cover and then climb up from the manhole whose cover had just been pushed aside. Then he picks up the manhole cover which was obviously made from rubber and he rolls it up. But when you look carefully at the ground you can tell he is not standing in the same place and has moved a short distance. ALL magic tricks are illusions. Some make it look more magical than others. There are a ton of magicinas who were wowing crowds before Criss got famous, and they are still going strong.
there are videos on youtube that show how he does his "levitation" i cant find the link but they are there..... his "levitation" is totally fake
QUOTE(Illicit_moonlight @ Sep 8 2007, 05:54 AM)
there are videos on youtube that show how he does his "levitation" i cant find the link but they are there..... his "levitation" is totally fake
i have been watching criss angel for a long time now. he is truely incredible. he shows how to do alot of his "tricks". i can now do several of them myself. you too can amaze your friends - LOL. here is how he does the levitation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRaRbMixraE
QUOTE(Half @ Sep 15 2005, 11:21 AM)
Criss Angel has been around for a long time, I didn't respect him until just recently, just seeing him on commercials makes you think he's some kind of poser. But the dark make up and special effects aside, he's a great guy who does impossible magic. I wish I had 1/10th of the determination he has. Last nights episode was great too.. I'm a big fan now.
your determination can EASILY developed by chanting 'i make LOTS and LOTS of money being a two-bit hack magician that wears a lot of make-up'
with just a little hard work and knowledge of common tricks...just keep chanting that and YOU can EASILY become successful!
Is it possible that he gets his power from other things and just uses it to do these things? I seen the vids of him walking on water, people swam under him and he let his shoe fall off and when he floated across all these buildings from one rooftop to a far away one with people under him.....
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748584 Walking on water
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748619 Floating from building to building
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3470186 Manipulating Shadows
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3007730 Slides a quarter under his skin
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1477314 light bulb trick ****Explain how he makes is go away from him****
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748584 Walking on water
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748619 Floating from building to building
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3470186 Manipulating Shadows
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3007730 Slides a quarter under his skin
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1477314 light bulb trick ****Explain how he makes is go away from him****
QUOTE(iroc4141 @ Oct 14 2007, 11:56 AM)
Is it possible that he gets his power from other things and just uses it to do these things? I seen the vids of him walking on water, people swam under him and he let his shoe fall off and when he floated across all these buildings from one rooftop to a far away one with people under him.....
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748584 Walking on water
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748619 Floating from building to building
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3470186 Manipulating Shadows
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3007730 Slides a quarter under his skin
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1477314 light bulb trick ****Explain how he makes is go away from him****
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748584 Walking on water
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1748619 Floating from building to building
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3470186 Manipulating Shadows
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=3007730 Slides a quarter under his skin
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1477314 light bulb trick ****Explain how he makes is go away from him****
ITS CALLED ILLUSION. NOTHING MORE. NO POWERS. GEESH.
HERES A FUNNY STORY, you may find it amusing, you may find it rude...but anyways
My friend was in Las Vegas with some friends a while back, and he told me this story and I couldn't stop laughing..Criss Angel was doing a publicity autograph signing outside one of the hotels, and there was a big line of people shaking his hand and getting autographs. So my friend walked up to the front of the line and looked at Criss Angel in the face. Criss Angel said "Hey there man, how are you, you got anything for me sign?" and my friend simply says "LEVITATE." (My friend was drunk and stoned at the time) then Criss Angel said "Um no man, I am doing signing today" and then my friend goes "LEVITATE!" even louder! haha Then Criss Angel said "Ah sorry, I won't be performing today, but if you have something to sign, I'll sign it" and then my friend goes "COME ON, JUST F***IN' LEVITATE!" and Criss Angel got security on him and they made him leave hahaha
My friends use that as a joke whenever they go to Vegas too, like when they see a sign or poster with Criss Angel on it, they all look to each other and say "LEVITATE!!!" hahaha
My friend was in Las Vegas with some friends a while back, and he told me this story and I couldn't stop laughing..Criss Angel was doing a publicity autograph signing outside one of the hotels, and there was a big line of people shaking his hand and getting autographs. So my friend walked up to the front of the line and looked at Criss Angel in the face. Criss Angel said "Hey there man, how are you, you got anything for me sign?" and my friend simply says "LEVITATE." (My friend was drunk and stoned at the time) then Criss Angel said "Um no man, I am doing signing today" and then my friend goes "LEVITATE!" even louder! haha Then Criss Angel said "Ah sorry, I won't be performing today, but if you have something to sign, I'll sign it" and then my friend goes "COME ON, JUST F***IN' LEVITATE!" and Criss Angel got security on him and they made him leave hahaha
My friends use that as a joke whenever they go to Vegas too, like when they see a sign or poster with Criss Angel on it, they all look to each other and say "LEVITATE!!!" hahaha
WoW most of your are so ****ing stupid he says they are just tricks its slight of hand go watch the ****ing prestige and tell me that is real he sells DvD's on how to do some of the tricks like how he levitates onto chairs or how he gets a coin into the soda can. I knew people could be stupid but this is just sad.
QUOTE(psychoticpengwn @ Oct 14 2007, 04:08 PM)
WoW most of your are so ****ing stupid he says they are just tricks its slight of hand go watch the ****ing prestige and tell me that is real he sells DvD's on how to do some of the tricks like how he levitates onto chairs or how he gets a coin into the soda can. I knew people could be stupid but this is just sad.
Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
It just amazes me how he can say its all fake yet they still believe what he does is real its made to look real and he does it well where has every ones common sense gone next they will start saying Darren Brown is psychic 
QUOTE(iroc4141 @ Oct 14 2007, 04:56 PM)
Is it possible that he gets his power from other things and just uses it to do these things? I seen the vids of him walking on water, people swam under him and he let his shoe fall off and when he floated across all these buildings from one rooftop to a far away one with people under him.....
he gets his power from inner sanctum core of reverse polarity kinetic relay hemi-quasar quark minimal currency.
in simple terms? he bullsh!t morons to believe he is something special so he can get his paycheck. i've seen 6 year olds do better 'magic' than him AND they dont look like a f@g hobo with a cr@pload of make up on!
QUOTE(jasonkrick @ Oct 14 2007, 06:27 PM)
he gets his power from inner sanctum core of reverse polarity kinetic relay hemi-quasar quark minimal currency.
in simple terms? he bullsh!t morons to believe he is something special so he can get his paycheck. i've seen 6 year olds do better 'magic' than him AND they dont look like a f@g hobo with a cr@pload of make up on!
in simple terms? he bullsh!t morons to believe he is something special so he can get his paycheck. i've seen 6 year olds do better 'magic' than him AND they dont look like a f@g hobo with a cr@pload of make up on!
ouch, give the man some credit, he's pretty good.
But Cyril Takayama is still my favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybRNdbzMXgs
I know how he does almost all of his tricks, I would debunk them on here, but some people may get angry with me.
PM me.
PM me.
QUOTE(Smokin-Thunder @ Oct 14 2007, 11:14 PM)
I know how he does almost all of his tricks, I would debunk them on here, but some people may get angry with me.
PM me.
PM me.
It should be pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't munch on paint chips that nothing he does is real magic... Debunk away who cares what people think this is a public board.
A lot of his tricks are clearly staged though and nothing more then good editing and special effects as well.... He uses a lot of mirror tricks and what have you as well.
Levitation - There is a slit in one of his pant legs. This is why you only ever see his levitation from one angle.
As for the really, really high ones? Cranes and actors.
Walk Through Glass - Actors and the glass is trick glass. It sort of has a hinge on it, and the person inside the shop pushes it up so he can fit through the glass, through the paper, and quickly drops it when he is through, VIDEO HERE
Walk On Water - There is fiberglass or plexiglas under him, about an inch or 2 thick. So he can still walk on it, and people can swim under.
A lot of his tricks are stunts though, such as Buried Alive.
I know there are a lot more tricks, but I can't think of any at the moment, tell me if you know some you want me to debunk.
As for the really, really high ones? Cranes and actors.
Walk Through Glass - Actors and the glass is trick glass. It sort of has a hinge on it, and the person inside the shop pushes it up so he can fit through the glass, through the paper, and quickly drops it when he is through, VIDEO HERE
Walk On Water - There is fiberglass or plexiglas under him, about an inch or 2 thick. So he can still walk on it, and people can swim under.
A lot of his tricks are stunts though, such as Buried Alive.
I know there are a lot more tricks, but I can't think of any at the moment, tell me if you know some you want me to debunk.
QUOTE(psychoticpengwn @ Oct 14 2007, 05:08 PM)
WoW most of your are so ****ing stupid he says they are just tricks its slight of hand go watch the ****ing prestige and tell me that is real he sells DvD's on how to do some of the tricks like how he levitates onto chairs or how he gets a coin into the soda can. I knew people could be stupid but this is just sad.
You know what.........***K YOU
Not my fault your a dumb **** that believes every thing he reads btw did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary
Dear PsychoticPenisPengwn,
STFU.
Dude, you are the stupid one because:
1. We know that.
2. We are all not stupid enough to buy it, we can figure it out straight away.
3. I like turtles.
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STFU.
Dude, you are the stupid one because:
1. We know that.
2. We are all not stupid enough to buy it, we can figure it out straight away.
3. I like turtles.
[/letter]
I'm not saying you all are stupid just the ppl that keep arguing over the fact that he does do magic after it has been stated a number of times by himself that he does illusions not magic or anything else like that and if psychics/magic W/e really did exist how is it that this has not been completed to this date http://www.randi.org/research/index.html the day that there is hard evidence to support this is the day I will accept that it exist. Now I applaud those who actually took the time to take the time and research his effects to know that they are fake and not watch it and instantly think he is using "Magic" If there were more people like that in the world it would make things a hell of allot easier.
QUOTE(_hAiLO_ @ Jul 25 2005, 02:27 AM)
I know, its like a very confusing metaphysical community altogether. I see this and that, and yet people say that and this, and it all conflicts.
Magicians do this on stages and show people, like levitation. That means one thing can be said, Levitation is Real. But I just want to know if anyone out there has an explanation to this?
By means of illusion, do you mean 'Holographic Projector'?
Magicians do this on stages and show people, like levitation. That means one thing can be said, Levitation is Real. But I just want to know if anyone out there has an explanation to this?
By means of illusion, do you mean 'Holographic Projector'?
I would say the real test would be if you were walking along with Criss Angel on the street and said, "OK, Criss, levitate now." If he can levitate anywhere and anytime, I would believe it to be a legitimate power. If he can only levitate in a particular place and time, that suggests illusionist tricks, even if they are so good, no one can figure them out.
~~~Cebrakon
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