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coldwhitelight
This thread is about Crimes against Science. It's about how Science and technology sometimes spins out of control. For example scientist are cloning pets for owners who's cat or dog have died. What are some of thing that scientist are doing today that you think is morally objectionable or defensible? Medical, Science and technology Post Here.
Catrat
That's a really interesting thing to bring up. I guess the excuse they can always use is that by cloning and gentically engineering different things they will eventually be able to mess around with stem cells enough so that they can cure cancer, Parkinsons disease, etc. The thing that confuses me about this though is that the world is already overcrowded and as tragic as deaths by these diseases are, they kind of need to happen as a natural cause, as cruel as that sounds.
I think the kind of science that should be concentrated on at the moment is quantum physics, and space flight. At the rate that we are destroying this planet we will need to move somewhere else soon.
As for the morality of all the stem cell research, I guess you could say my mind is not really made up. I think bringing animals back to life kind of destroys death in a way, which isn't a good thing, thinking 'oh well I can use cloning to bring my pet back to life'. Things are meant to die, it happens, it's sad but in the end I think you have to deal with it.
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ROGER
devil.gif I am beginning to think the INTERNET was and is a BAD IDEA. It started out as a means of sharing knowledge and accurate Information. It has become anything but. My E-Mail box is flooded with Things to Buy, scams to Steal my Bank information, or to get millions of dollars from fast talking crooks. It's used to coordinate terrorist attach and lure young children from their familys. Crazy people with their own thoughts of a Perfect world, trying to Harm others.

Yes I am an Old Man, but I have seen what this New Computerized World has become and is becoming. And it's not that Great!
Dando Kast
he has some more here:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...85&#entry737585

It was a good diea to start another topic thumbsup.gif looks like this one might get discussed more....
nensi
QUOTE(ROGER @ Jul 24 2005, 09:00 PM)
devil.gif I am beginning to think the INTERNET was and is a BAD IDEA. It started out as a means of sharing knowledge and accurate Information. It has become anything but. My E-Mail box is flooded with Things to Buy, scams to Steal my Bank information, or to get millions of dollars from fast talking crooks. It's used to coordinate terrorist attach and lure young children from their familys. Crazy people with their own thoughts of a Perfect world, trying to Harm others.

Yes I am an Old Man, but I have seen what this New Computerized World has become and is becoming. And it's not that Great!
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huh.gif yes ,i could agree with you , so why are you actually paying for thoses internet fees.what counts is that the person behind the screen ,make the difference what is rigth or wrong,we have to do that with the internet and or lives too...
thefounder
We have to decide between the fact and fiction on the internet, just use commen sense. I don't mean to brag, but I have never gotten spam on my email because I study the sites which I wish to do buisness with before I give my personal information away.
coldwhitelight
QUOTE(Catrat @ Jul 24 2005, 02:59 AM)
That's a really interesting thing to bring up. I guess the excuse they can always use is that by cloning and gentically engineering different things they will eventually be able to mess around with stem cells enough so that they can cure cancer, Parkinsons disease, etc. The thing that confuses me about this though is that the world is already overcrowded and as tragic as deaths by these diseases are, they kind of need to happen as a natural cause, as cruel as that sounds.
I think the kind of science that should be concentrated on at the moment is quantum physics, and space flight. At the rate that we are destroying this planet we will need to move somewhere else soon.
As for the morality of all the stem cell research, I guess you could say my mind is not really made up. I think bringing animals back to life kind of destroys death in a way, which isn't a good thing, thinking 'oh well I can use cloning to bring my pet back to life'. Things are meant to die, it happens, it's sad but in the end I think you have to deal with it.
Good thread thumbsup.gif .
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Death is a part of life that I agree with. But it is not how you die it's quality of life the person leads. If someone come down with a crippling disease stem cell research could give that person quality of life to be independent and not rely on others to take care of them for the of there lives. Just say a person dose have Parkinsons disease should Science not have the right to cure it with stem cell research?
saladins follower
i can agree with that..but what about the nuclear weapons testing . I dont belive in those, and when they are done with some areas they move out and build stuff and ppl live there ne one agree
Sc4v3ng3r
the problem with internet is that it was introduced to fast for too much people. Anarchy is the transition phase from a social state to another one. Thats what internet is on right now, in complete anarchy. It should in theory be stabilized, where everything will be filtered and control. Its still is young despise its 10 years of existence among civilian. We still are browsing trough 2 dimensional web page. One day it ll be completly virtual. WElcome in the real matrix.
coldwhitelight
At play with firm's clone kittens

A US company offering a pet cloning service has successfully cloned two cats: Tabouli and Baba Ganoush. BBC News Online's Maggie Shiels is the first British journalist to see them. Here, she tells of meeting the copy cats.

To most people, the two kittens running around the top floor of a San Francisco mansion might not seem like anything special. But to Lou Hawthorne, the owner of this house, Tabouli and Baba Ganoush represent a major scientific breakthrough.
And as the CEO of a cloning company, these cloned kittens also spell dollars and cents. Genetic Savings and Clone (GSC), which is based in Sausalito, just north of San Francisco, is the world's first firm to go commercial and offer the public the chance to clone their cats and dogs. Five cat owners have already signed up at a cost of $50,000 to have their pets copied. All of that moved closer to becoming a reality just eight weeks ago when Tabouli and Baba Ganoush were born after being cloned from a one-year-old female Bengal cat. This weekend CEO Lou Hawthorne went public with his unusual offspring and BBC News Online was among the first to see the newborn kittens, which he describes as being cut from the same cloth as their donor mother. "The two girls are identical. They are a clone of my son's cat and I couldn't be prouder. They are beautiful and healthy and strong and feisty just like their genetic donor Tahini," Mr Hawthorne said.
This is an important step in the process for the company that was involved in the cloning of the world's first cat three years ago. CC, short for Carbon Copy or copycat, was a calico cat whose colouring and disposition were different from those of her genetic mother.

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Tabouli and Baba Ganoush are clones of their "mother" Tahini

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coldwhitelight
Dolly is the name of the sheep that became the first mammal clone when she was born on 5 July 1996. She later gave birth to Bonnie in April 1998 and then to three more lambs in 1999.

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robrampage
At $50,000 and a reduced lifespan,a cloned cat is a crime against one's bank balance and nature.

Its one step removed from a cloned army, manufactured to fight an unjust war "better".
whoa182
Mass use of the internet is one of the best things to happen in the last decade. Through it I've been able to keep in contact with most of my high school friends and college friends. I couldn't see us calling each on the phone all the time to keep in contact. We all get together for a chat on msn and arrange to meet up in the city and stuff...

I've also got to speak to lots of interesting people all around the world. I am able to buy things a lot cheaper on the net than I would be able to otherwise. I am able to share my views with hundreds or thousands of other people.

I don't get much spam in my mail box provided by my ISP or my friends email server.

The internet is one of the best ideas, not the worst!
coldwhitelight
This is something that I never made up my mind about. Is abortion a crime? If a women finds out that she is pregnant should she have the right to terminate the pregnancies, killing the fetus/baby? There are all sort of personal, political, and religious views and beliefs on abortion. One of the biggest issues there is Pro life verse Pro choice. Should a person have the right to take away an unborn innocent life? Even if the pregnancies was under the worst of circumstances?
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