I try not to take anything anyone says to heart, to each his own. I would like to clear one thing though. A true Satanist would never preach to anyone or push their religon upon another person, and you are right Boltwave, Demons usually are not friendly to those that are not dedicated, I forgot to mention that. And I would never recomend that anyone try to summon a Demon as some can be quite violent to the wrong people. Anyway I guess what I'm saying is that I didnt mean to make anyone uncomfortable. Sorry. And yeah just for the record things from the bible do not always work, I speak from first hand experience.

Oh and by the way, as far as respect, you either respect a Demon or make bloody sure you never come in contact with one, trust me.

Ah that helps, I respect your opinions, so I will certaintly take what you've said into consideration

what are peoples points of using the board alone, ive come across mixed reactions from people who strictly say not too, then theres people who use the board often alone, i have only ever done home made ones with friends that seamed not to work, i would like to use one alone but i wouldnt unless i had studied it, and how to protect myself for a long time beforhand

I do use the board alone BUT in my religon everyone has a Gaurdian Demon that is there to protect and eduate and I always ask out loud for protection every time I use the board.
I think that the people that say never to use the board alone are saying that out of simple fear of the unknown, people fear what they dont understand.
And that is very smart not to use a board alone unless you know what you are doing. Because then if something happens that freaks you out its so much worse and can really affect you mentally.

Hi All! ;-)

Interesting thread.

In all my many years of spirit communication, I have yet to come across even ONE 'demon'. To me, they simply don't exist. They don't exist because I have been further than any demon or angel for that matter to *know* they don't. Meantime, if I did ever meet one then it would be me they'd have to watch out for and not me them. (Satan too).

As Soveriegn Entities in our own rights, we are *all* bigger than any demon or Satan.

But, each to his own I expect.

Meanwhile, as far as the website advice given earlier on, I thought that was excellent for, I too often say exactly the same. (Brilliant).

For anyone else who use it (ouija) only once, have a 'bad' experience and then throw it away - to then follow that up with advice about how 'no one should ever use one' I feel I must add that, really, it is knowledge that is the key to all things. Get that and you have everything. The knowledge being that, when you truly discover what *really* lies beyond the Ouija Board then you would find that there is nothing to fear at all - except the demons in our own minds. Once faced down and then beaten, literally, the universe is yours for the taking - and yes, even through a Ouija Board. But learn first Ok?

Secondly, you really need to use a board on a regular basis - and I mean, the same time, the same day every week until you get going. In this way, you send out a regular pulse throughout all creation which will then let them know that you're around.

Believe it or not yet, often, when we want to get a hold of someone, it could be that they're busy and can't come in that week (they go off on holidays too you know - and I do mean to the beach and all that. Speak to them yourself and you'll see they do - sunburn, everything) so, we have to try again the next. Children still go to school. people still work (if they want to). People have *lives* over there and are not hanging around with nothing better to do than to speak with us see? (Ask them yourself and you'll see this).

Meantime, the ouija board rarely works for one person alone and this is due to the fact that one person alone just hasn't enough energy within them to facilitate a good strong communion Ok? They use their energies from their side and use ours in tandem. But even then, one is not enough Ok?

Evil or not evil - that is the question. As has also been said already, that is entirely in the mind of the questionaire - but exists nowhere else.

That's my twopenny worth anyway.

Thank you for your time.

Bob Daulby

So for everyone's edification, after you've heard all these numerous negative experiences, people being flung across rooms, demons cursing people and possessing them, boards screaming when you burn them - you say you've never encountered even one "demon", and there's no such thing as "Satan", etc. but how do you answer all these people that say "But I seen it!" Are they lying? Are they simply misinterpreting things? Is it intentional disinformation to keep people from using boards? Did they create these things of their own volition and their fear allowed or even caused them to manifest? Or what?

Hello Jpatt! ;-)

I want to thank you for asking this question because I am sure that it is in the minds of many who would spot what I said above.

Ok.

In being as brief as I can - (is that possible? I mean - it's BOB we're speaking to here you know? lol) - you have already hit the nail on the head with your "Are they simply misinterpreting things?" - because, this is *exactly* what is happening.

...but that it is forgivable and is not necessarily down to ignorance.

All of the above is a misinterpretation due only to *instilled* 'beliefs'.

Now, I am having difficulty in explaining what this word *instilled* means.

Instillment is NOT a choice thing. It is something that has been *driven* into all of us since we were able to form our first thought in the physical body. Not only our parents, but that our grandparents, all relatives, friends, acquaintances, neighbours, peer groups, school pals - right through from then until today, have ALL either subtely, indirectly or openly *instilled* within us things such as 'devils, demons, 'shadowpeople', poltergeists and so on. It is through this instillment that we have also added to that list 'The Fear Of Ouija Boards' and how *never to use one*.

Fear is a marvelous tool. When used properly, we can overcome all kinds of dangers. But, when not used properly, it can also create the opposite. Fear can and will create unimaginable monsters within our minds and, when this has been accomplished, almost nothing but brute force will remove them. It is because they're so instilled that people hang on to them like grim death - as if the fear itself will do all the protecting. But it just wont. Uncontrolled fear, will not only create monsters but will also ADD more of itself.

And when we come to discover that the original fear (for example) was instilled within us from our own mother - our 'protector from all things' - then, just questioning that instillement actually means to question our holiest relative and not the instillment itself. When we love our mothers (in my case, it was my grandfather - bless him), we not only protect their name but will also protect ALL that she ever said. (Just as I did). Our mothers gave us our identity and so, who are we to a/ flout her rules and b/ to question whatever she said?

I know it's hard. I KNOW it is. But soon, each and every one of us must find the strength to - not so much question those we love the most directly but to question that same fear that SHE was instilled with. She, our mother (or whoever we trust the most) gained this self-same fear from HER peers and so on right back into dark history - and even way before then too. So, there has got to come a time when WE, those who carry the future with us - to then pass it on in our turn - MUST question ALL history but especially the actual seat of such fears and instillments. When we can do this, THEN, we can call ourselves 'grown up' But, if we cannot then, all we are, are older versions of the kids that we used to be but who still hang on to mother's apron strings as if she never let us go.

Evolution *calls* for our advancement in ALL things and, if it means upsetting our mothers (or whoever) to accomplish our part in it then, upset her we must. But that does not mean that we are being at all disloyal to her or her name. It means that we take the strength that she gave us to go forward - to lift that curtain ahead that frightended her so much - to *remove* the same fear that she herself was afraid of. Do that, and you *honour* her name and not take anything from her. Do that and you bring MORE and not less value to all SHE is too - as a *mother*.

I did precisely that with a man I loved and adored above all others - my grandfather - and HE a *REVEREND* no less! So, I do know how upsetting this can be. But, you know what? Ultimately, for all my fears yet, instead of losing him (as I feared I might) I gained so much more. Don't forget, I am a regular user of my own Spirit Contact Board (ouija board) where even he regarded this as a tool of the devil. I also know very well that, each time I use it, he's there too. But, is he mad at me? No. He sees what I am doing with it and he even supports me now (and he died in '85). Our love is not broken. No one else's love will be either.

And so, for all the examples you gave above, there are *other* answers for them all and, through my research and own experience, I *know* not 'believe' what *really* happened in all of them.

Do what I did and you too will discover exactly the same.

Overcome one's OWN instillment and - not only proof positive - but that things like 'demons' 'devils', 'hell' and poltergeists ALL die along with it leaving us forever free to explore at will - our backyard called 'The Universe'.

I Thank You For Your Time

Bob Daulby

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How very true. I am often amazed how so many people don't understand this.

my opinion pure evil, olny bad spirits use them from what i have read and if a spirit is nice its lieing

As all these subjects have me transfixed!, I have been in a very subtle way trying to get people i know and have had alleged experieneces with the boards to try and recall what took place, (I tried a board once as a kid and whined for Battleship 5 minutes into it),but the feed back ive got has a presiding theme Evil and Angry, thats the descriptions most recent I was lucky enuf to extract involved this" surrepticious siance (with a board)these kids held in a bathroom only to all see a face appear in the mirror and a claim the thing wouldnt let them out the door! "was holding it shut!".................B

You think Ouija Boards are dangerous... you want to try spending 3 years with a Psychic Vampire........