fallingalien
Jul 27 2005, 07:40 PM
http://www.research-systems.com/codes/nt_codes.htmread those things about it, it's really strange how it predicts things. I'm not sure but I think it's true.
marduk
Jul 27 2005, 09:06 PM
The bible code is a statistical party trick and nothing more
Somebody proved that by using the same system on "Moby Dick" with similar results
Unless you think Herman Melville is the greatest prophet in the history of mankind
i mean the book was good but........
If you're still unsure i suggest that the next thing you read is "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis"
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/StatSci/
Pseudomorph
Jul 27 2005, 09:14 PM
Wow! Cool! Ooh, and we get to buy something too!
steer
Jul 27 2005, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 27 2005, 10:06 PM)
The bible code is a statistical party trick and nothing more
Somebody proved that by using the same system on "Moby Dick" with similar results
Unless you think Herman Melville is the greatest prophet in the history of mankind
i mean the book was good but........
If you're still unsure i suggest that the next thing you read is "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis"
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/StatSci/ 
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i fell it is not true should not mess about with think on the bible only to lean about jeues and god him self
Edited for foul language
isis-999
Jul 27 2005, 09:17 PM
Fallen, Everything is not some great conspiracy.. We have been on this topic already to day.. But since you missed it... Take any book..large book..lots of words....And i promise you :You will find the same codes, it's about the number of words....any large book works.. They have proven this with the book Moby
Dick..
nativechick1989
Jul 27 2005, 09:18 PM
No, I don't think the Bible Code is true. I also heard of that system used on 'Moby Dick' and although fascinating . . . that's just it . . . it was fascinating.
DeAth_Of_CaRTMan
Jul 27 2005, 09:21 PM

OK break the convention of Nostradamus and the like and actually use this so called encrypted prophecy finding to actually predict something
before it happens.
Now that would be impressive.
isis-999
Jul 27 2005, 09:44 PM
They always find the code after it has happen.. Tell me something i have yet to hear on the news..
JMPD1
Jul 27 2005, 10:10 PM
I wonder what would happen, and what 'prophecies' would be revealed if we did this trick with Websters Unabridged Dictionary?
It ought to be..... educational.
Falco Rex
Jul 28 2005, 01:30 AM
We'd no doubt learn that the words "Aardvark" and "Platitude" were engaged in a conspiracy to overthrow the World..
LarryOldtimer
Jul 28 2005, 01:48 AM
QUOTE(DeAth_Of_CaRTMan @ Jul 27 2005, 02:21 PM)

OK break the convention of Nostradamus and the like and actually use this so called encrypted prophecy finding to actually predict something
before it happens.
Now that would be impressive.
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Yeah, but that's never going to happen
isis-999
Jul 28 2005, 01:58 AM
They never could do that and even if they did.. it would be a random find ..Like a bomb going off..something thats going to happen any way!
Alfaman
Jul 28 2005, 11:13 AM
The bible code is rubbish. The way the "messages" are found could lead to anything being found, some of the codes have gaps of 8 letters between the letters used, and they only work if you set out all the letters in rows and columns.
Pyxis
Jul 28 2005, 11:45 AM
Yes I used the same technique on Stephen King's The Stand, and learned that otters are the world's true evil
Alfaman
Jul 28 2005, 11:58 AM
QUOTE(Pyxis @ Jul 28 2005, 12:45 PM)
Yes I used the same technique on Stephen King's The Stand, and learned that otters are the world's true evil

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Always thought there's something shifty about them, it's the eyes
Mr Ed
Jul 28 2005, 12:07 PM
The guy who first came up with the bible codes issued his main opponent a challenge. Come up with a code in Moby Dick.
He did.
Pyxis
Jul 28 2005, 12:07 PM
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Always thought there's something shifty about them, it's the eyes
Yep, they're almost too cute to be good. Definitely evil
Alfaman
Jul 28 2005, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(Pyxis @ Jul 28 2005, 01:07 PM)
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Always thought there's something shifty about them, it's the eyes
Yep, they're almost too cute to be good. Definitely evil
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They'll lull you into a false sense of security then when you lease expect it they'll go for the jugular. Those sea otters even use weapon.
baastetnoir
Jul 28 2005, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 27 2005, 05:06 PM)
The bible code is a statistical party trick and nothing more
Somebody proved that by using the same system on "Moby Dick" with similar results

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Nooo way ... Moby Dick had 3 or 4 "codes", the bible seems to have thousands...
the thing people always ask is why doenst the Bible code predict things beofre they ahppen ??
well first it isnt a "crystal ball" and second you would have to know what to look for ...
Bible Code Index
Pyxis
Jul 28 2005, 12:22 PM
Ok, if you have to know what to look for then using it for anything but hindsight is useless.
And using it to find things that have already happened is just finding what you want to find.
baastetnoir
Jul 28 2005, 12:30 PM
Its not useless...if our future is written there and weare able to find it ...maybe we will be able to correct the wrongs ??
Pyxis
Jul 28 2005, 12:36 PM
I'm not much to believe prophecy because it's always to vague. You can read anything into it. Those that say they new what was going to happen before they it did, are more than likely looking for attention.
If feel the bible code is one of those things. You always learn about what it says after the fact.
That's not prophecy it's hindsight.
marduk
Jul 28 2005, 01:01 PM
Drosnin issued this challenge: "When my critics find a message about the assassination of a Prime Minister encrypted in [the novel] Moby Dick, I will believe them."
Professor Brendan McKay, of the Department of Computer Science at the Australian National University, took up Drosnin's challenge and made extensive computer searches through the English text of Moby Dick.# Using the same method described by Drosnin, McKay found "predictions" of the assassinations of Indira Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln, and others. According to McKay, he discovered that Moby Dick also "prophesied" the murder of Yitzhak Rabin.
he left it there because he'd already proved this theory erroneous
had he continued he would have found just as many messages in the book as drosnin had.
DJ_Quinn
Jul 28 2005, 02:01 PM
Does Dan Brown know about this?
isis-999
Jul 28 2005, 02:24 PM
It would be interesting if they could find just one code, and share before the fact and not after.
Pyxis
Jul 29 2005, 01:56 PM
I doubt that will ever happen.
isis-999
Jul 29 2005, 02:32 PM
Yes i doubt it too.. since they have only been looking for how long now.. and everything, they find has happen years and years eariler...
Mr Ed
Jul 29 2005, 06:24 PM
QUOTE
Nooo way ... Moby Dick had 3 or 4 "codes", the bible seems to have thousands...
I think you will find that is because the Bible is about four times as thick as Moby Dick.
marduk
Jul 29 2005, 06:35 PM
er yes
that and the fact that the guy searching moby dick gave up after finding 5 hits in a row inside of ten minutes having succesfully proved the bible code theory wrong
the guy who wrote the bible code spent years looking
i myself downloaded the bible code software and found several claims that world leaders would be assasinated inside a discourse that i had written myself.
i am not a prophet
neither is my writing
just the opposite in fact
so please people
if you think the bible code is real
then you have to accept me as the greatest prophet who ever lived
because i can predict the future when i'm thinking about the past
kapeesh
isis-999
Jul 29 2005, 06:38 PM
Oh good lord.. Marduk a prophet :
Sorry the

made me do it..
justcallmefox
Jul 30 2005, 04:57 PM
and of course, we can't forget the fact that some of those "prophecies" are quotes taken out of context.

seems EVERYONE can find a Bible quote/hidden message to support their theory.
justcallmefox
Jul 30 2005, 04:57 PM
manitou
Jul 30 2005, 07:59 PM
You can't extract messages from texts or books that have been so heavily adapted and rewritten throughout history. The sourcematerial is gone, there's just another interpretation of it. It's fascinating but very improbable indeed.
Megalomania
Aug 2 2005, 12:40 PM
Piecing together random letters and words from books will give you all kinds of stupid things....
I can't believe anyone would fall for this...
marduk
Aug 2 2005, 12:46 PM
you're saying what now ?
that i'm not the greatest prophet who ever lived
awww
now i'm almost disppointed
isis-999
Aug 2 2005, 01:36 PM
DJ_Quinn
Aug 2 2005, 03:40 PM
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 2 2005, 12:46 PM)
you're saying what now ?
that i'm not the greatest prophet who ever lived
awww
now i'm almost disppointed

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No your not marduk. That prophet in America who can summon UFO's for television news crews is the greatest.
fallingalien
Aug 2 2005, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(marduk @ Jul 29 2005, 02:35 PM)
er yes
that and the fact that the guy searching moby dick gave up after finding 5 hits in a row inside of ten minutes having succesfully proved the bible code theory wrong
the guy who wrote the bible code spent years looking
i myself downloaded the bible code software and found several claims that world leaders would be assasinated inside a discourse that i had written myself.
i am not a prophet
neither is my writing
just the opposite in fact
so please people
if you think the bible code is real
then you have to accept me as the greatest prophet who ever lived
because i can predict the future when i'm thinking about the past
kapeesh

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well, you made it up on purpose, this wasn't, this was way before any of that happened, wasn't it? if you were smart, you would realise that the bible was written before 9/11 before JFK and before Roswell
Pyxis
Aug 2 2005, 04:27 PM
That still doesn't mean there's a code.
JMPD1
Aug 2 2005, 04:37 PM
The point, fallingalien, is that you can find "prophecies" in any work of literature.
And I think that we are all aware that the bible was written many centuries ago.
marduk
Aug 2 2005, 05:01 PM
QUOTE(DJ_Quinn @ Aug 2 2005, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 2 2005, 12:46 PM)
you're saying what now ?
that i'm not the greatest prophet who ever lived
awww
now i'm almost disppointed

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No your not marduk. That prophet in America who can summon UFO's for television news crews is the greatest.
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you mean the one that told the american news that he would summon U.F.O.S. for them to film
they turned up with the cameras
he turned up in his robes
no u.f.o.s were present at any point.
you're talking about the cult of ben yahweh as well. he was convicted of murder and is currently doing life in a Federal prison.
hes better than me is he
thanks for that JPMD
Thats a great compliment
Oops i gotta go now the police are at the door wanting to know why theres 50 people buried in my garden
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