UM-Bot
Feb 17 2002, 12:28 PM
Here's something to get you thinking. I watched an episode of Horizon the other day ( UK BBC2 ), which was about the possibility of parallel universes.
It attempted to expand on Einstein's unsuccessful - "Theory Of Everything" which attempted to sum up the entire universe and everything in it with one universal theory.
It is now believed that all matter in the Universe is made up of "Strings" rather than particles, an idea known for many years as "String Theory". The Universe that we live in exists as a membrane in the 11th dimension, in which exist also an infinite number of other membranes, each of which from a parallel universe. This means that there are now believed to be an infinite number of parallel universes, meaning that anything that could happen in this universe, would have happened in another.
This means that in a parallel universe - Al Gore is now President of the United States, and Napolean won the battle of Waterloo. It's hard to get your head around, but this is the theory that scientists are now putting forward as being highly probable.
To top off the Theory of Everything or "M Theory" as it's called, Scientists have now theorised that the Big Bang, is the result of a collision between two parallel universes in the 11th dimension, and that the matter in our universe was created as the result of the rippling effect present in the two membranes that collided.
This "M Theory" seems to be one of the most discussed theories of the moment, and although rather hard to take in, would be an incredible breakthrough in our understanding of the Universe, Life and Everything.
It might sound like something out of science fiction, but it's actually a true and genuinely researched and developed theory. Everything in the universe so far seems to be explicable using M Theory.
All comments and thoughts welcome.
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Loonboy
Feb 17 2002, 02:47 PM
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I saw that very same programme and I have to admit that most of the theory went way over my head.
One thing I don't understand is: if there are infinite parallel universes, and that matter is only created when two membranes touch, are the universes where membranes have not touched empty and void?
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Saru
Feb 17 2002, 03:00 PM
Loonboy,
I suppose that if there are an infinite number of universes, and each of those can have their own laws of physics, then it follows that there are an infinite number of universes that are completely void of matter. There could be a universe in which subatmic particles are totally unstable, making matter formation impossible. There could be a universe in which gravity is so weak, that planets and stars cannot possibly form.
There could even be a universe in which the speed of light is 1m/s - imagine that. A car would arrive and you'd see it half a minute later. The ultimate combination of possible circumstances in a parallel universe could result in the most bizarre environments imagineable.
Loonboy
Feb 17 2002, 07:01 PM
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Ummm, yeah, right. I think I'm outta my league here.
I guess I can't quite get my head around accepting that there are infinite things. This stuff really messes with your mind.
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It does, however, remind me of the theory put forward by Lord Kelvin in the 19th century about vortices. He basically said that energy is composed of 'smoke circle' like vortices which form substances, as opposed to atoms, which are small and spherical.
If I understand parallel universes, they are supposed to be in 'smoke ring' type forms, aren't they?
And many theories about other things are supposed to be circular or ring-like in formation: the laws of karma, time, little gold jewellery items that hobbits are running around with....
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Homer
Feb 17 2002, 10:22 PM
Although I didn't see the program, I'm familiar with the String Theory and the M theory(although I didn't know it called "M Theory), and I have to agree with Loonboy, it's over my head as well. Of course, going over my head is a rather simple task ;D
[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj
ScaryD
Feb 18 2002, 08:29 PM
WOW.
I guess it makes sense, but I am far far to dense to have a scientific conversation about it. I guess, because I believe in all things spiritual and the spiritual laws of the universe (i.e. karma, the human soul, spirit guides, life on the 'other side', angels, ghosts etc) then I can follow that there is more than one parallel universe out there. The 'other side' meerly being one of them.
But if our soul takes 'us' to this universe for a lifetime, does our soul get to go to the other universes out there?
Owch. I think my brain just popped.
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PurpleStuart
Feb 22 2002, 12:34 AM
yeah i love that sensation when you think about sometime tooo "big" and you can feel your brain capsizing...
Anybody know any good links on M-Theory? otherwise i'll have a look round tomorrow if i remember.
Homer
Feb 22 2002, 12:52 AM
I'm sure there are a lot of sites. But...http://www.superstring-theory.com/EnglishVersion.html or http://www.superstringtheory.fanspace.com/ are informative sites
FarvLarion
Feb 22 2002, 10:24 AM
Well, that would be a fanominal (SP?) rate of new parallel universes that would be created every second, less than that actually when all things considered.
But, it's very grounded and I have to admit that it sounds very open ended for a lot of heated debates and additions, which is a universe in itself. (Wow, tonight, I'm not doing to well here with my typing and coherant linguistics.)
Farv Michael Larion :sj
PurpleStuart
Feb 22 2002, 10:31 PM
Hell, it's a friday - i'll be slurring my typing soon too. ;D
Becca_gurl
Mar 19 2002, 02:25 AM
My dad was telling me one day about parallel universes (his dad, my grandpa, was a nuclear physist, sp?) and for what I understood, he was talking about how everyones life was a dimension. When you die, you start the same life all over again. Which explains deja vous. And if two dimensions touch, not collide, touch you will see "ghosts" and other unexplained phenomena. But that is from what I understood. :s03
SpaceyKC
Mar 19 2002, 05:26 PM
That's a very interesting thought. I wonder how many times each one relives their lives? I guess we just do it 'til we get it right!! :sr
KC ( I must be a rookie this time round)
PurpleStuart
Mar 19 2002, 10:47 PM
Maybe living different lives forever :o
Mystify
Mar 20 2002, 08:03 PM
That`s a very intresting theory.... same life over and over. That would explain many things already said... deja vu, ghosts. spiritual beings, shadow people, astral voyages and what not.
I think (ouch.... it`s already starting) that If I too think to much about it I`ll just end up getting mad that I can`t get to one definate answer to the M-Theory and my brain will just cease.
I need a break...
Good topic! :s01
Becca_gurl
Mar 23 2002, 06:56 PM
I wonder what would happen if you knew how your life was going to end up and you changed the course. Would you change other people's life course?
- :shrebecca
Homer
Mar 23 2002, 07:53 PM
Reminds me of the story about Scrooge around Christmas time. But in answer to your question, Becca, by changing your own life's course directly effects the life course of those you interact with, and indirectly changes the life course of others they interact with...etc etc. So the answer is yes.
[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj
Becca_gurl
Mar 24 2002, 06:12 PM
I think I'll end up a hermit...I wonder if you can reach a state of mind where you can see into your future? 8)
- :shrebecca
PurpleStuart
Apr 3 2002, 12:00 AM
Well i suppose if that theory is correct then your lives would run in parrallel, so you shouldn't be able to see your own future or any of your 'others' futures either...
Does that make sense?
SpaceyKC
Apr 3 2002, 04:50 AM
Has anyone seen the movie, 'K-PAX', with Kevin Spacey? (cool last name!) ;D
Homer
Apr 7 2002, 10:08 AM
Nope, not me.
Logic
Apr 27 2002, 10:28 PM
That will be the greates theory ever!
Was it proven correct?
I would love that to be true I mean if there is evidence that the theory is correct.
Imagine living life by life by life......... :)
Kismit
Feb 6 2004, 09:23 AM
I was running asearch for something completely different when I came across this wee gem and thought I might just bump it back up the list ....
Lottie
Feb 6 2004, 09:50 AM
I have been reading up on the 'string theory' recently, its very interesting and very thought provoking if not slightly confusing at times.
Jkimbo
May 11 2008, 02:07 AM
I find the M theory to be absolutely mind blowing and so beautiful! It not only explains the nagging problem of the Big Bang, how the first second could break every law of physics. That is now explained thanks to the M theory! But what really is exciting is how this is still only the tip of the iceberg, or as Einstein liked to say, the tail of the lion!
At first I was not overly excited about the string or super string theory. By themselves they seemed incomplete. But combined with the M theory, they become the mother of all theories! Truly the Every thing Theory! Now it all fits!
Totally mind blowing! We can now look before the Big Bang! We can understand more! We can appreciate time and space and even understand gravity better!
Imagine all these membranes floating around a 11 dimensional space time out side of our universe. Space is not man's final frontier! Just the beginning!
With parallel universes, we can now explore more alternatives and answers. Are we connected to each other in these parallel universes? Is life a endless cycle? Or a evolution to some thing higher? Pretty exciting stuff!
gabolai
May 11 2008, 04:41 AM
How can it be proven though? It drives me bannanas just thinking about it, every time I get into this subject I drive everyone in my family crazy trying to figure it out, to no end.
How do the scientist think about and solve these things? I bet they have diffrent shaped brains
Jkimbo, you are right though the M theory is beutiful, but your avatare scares me

I had to read through your post real fast so he would stop starring at me. . .
Kerkido
May 11 2008, 04:59 AM
lol Nice to post in a now 6 year old thread, and I hope to come back in infinity and post again

The M theory sounds brilliant! In a complex world such as ours, it sounds assuring that there could be an answer/theory for EVERYTHING!
My opinion is biased since I'm a bigger fan of fiction than fact
But perhaps that's why fiction is so appealing, because
subconsciously we all know it could be a possibility in some parallel universe!
Wootloops
May 11 2008, 05:27 AM
I've seen this documentary on the Science Channel and there are just two things about it which I don't understand:
1. Does our three dimensional universe only exist on a small portion of our Membrane within the 11th dimension? Existing on the portion where a ripple on our membrane met and collided with the ripple of another membrane within the Multiverse? In the graphic where they simulated this membrane collision, it depicted several ripples colliding at the same time. Does this mean that there are several three dimensional Universes within our own Membrane that each came about as the result of different ripple collisions; each collision causing a separate Big Bang? And so is the expansion of our three dimensional Universe in itself a ripple effect of the collision between two ripples of separate Membranes within the Multiverse?
2. Are the strings that supposedly make up all particles in our universe each individual or did M-Theory come along and say that the strings are actually all just one string that comprises the entirety of our membrane? And is the Membrane collision thought to have ensued the vibrations that make up the particles we see in our universe today?
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