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Jul 17 2003, 03:47 PM
Japanese scientists seeking to clone prehistoric wooly mammoths were preparing their first frozen DNA samples in bid to bring the beasts back to life. Remnants of what scientists think is from mammoth bone marrow, muscle and skin were unearthed last August in the Siberian tundra where they had been preserved in ice for thousands of years.
Researchers at the Gifu Science and Technology Centre and Kinki University want to use the genetic material encased within the cells to clone a wooly mammoth, said Akira Irytani, a scientist at Kinki University in western Japan. But first, they must determine whether the five specimens brought from Russia on Tuesday are really from mammoths. If so, they must then decide whether the DNA locked inside is well enough preserved for cloning to proceed.

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dust19
Jul 17 2003, 03:53 PM
this could be interesting. But would it yeild healthy clones? And who knows how to care for a mammoth?
and just to make a point, I know this sounds stupid........but
Say for instance they clone the mammoth, and raise it. But, since this is an animal we don't know a whole lot about (I assume), what if it had characteristics we weren't expecting. Say, for example, that the mammoth emitted poison gas clouds from it's trunk. There could be a catastrophy....(though i'm sure then they'd just shoot it down from a distance) Very rediculous though indeed, but I'm just making the point that cloning past animals could bring forth complication we wouldn't be expecting...
Starlyte
Jul 17 2003, 04:10 PM
Next thing you know Japan will be the first to have a real Jurassic Park. I think if mammoths were meant to roam the earth still, they would be here.
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Remnants of what scientists think is from mammoth bone marrow, muscle and skin were unearthed last August in the Siberian tundra where they had been preserved in ice for thousands of years.
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What they THINK is mammoth bone marrow?!?!

What if they're wrong?!?!

I just don't think this is a good idea, no matter how fascinating it could possibly be.
snuffypuffer
Jul 17 2003, 04:17 PM
These are going to just be more animals that are asleep when you go to see them at the zoo.
gnalaj
Jul 17 2003, 07:11 PM
Will it taste like beef or chicken? I bet that's what the scientists really want to find out.
Aslan
Jul 17 2003, 07:18 PM
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I think if mammoths were meant to roam the earth still, they would be here.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I think this way lies madness.
dust19
Jul 17 2003, 07:29 PM
| QUOTE (gnalaj @ Jul 17 2003, 03:11 PM) |
| Will it taste like beef or chicken? I bet that's what the scientists really want to find out. |
I'm sure it tastes like mammoth, stupid.
Starlyte
Jul 17 2003, 08:32 PM
Creepy cool new avatar Dust19!
dust19
Jul 17 2003, 08:34 PM
| QUOTE (starlyte @ Jul 17 2003, 04:32 PM) |
Creepy cool new avatar Dust19! |
thanks, i kinda just threw it together out of random pics of my head.
Nethius
Jul 18 2003, 12:03 PM
| QUOTE (snuffypuffer @ Jul 17 2003, 04:17 PM) |
| These are going to just be more animals that are asleep when you go to see them at the zoo. |
HAHA!
Sageghost
Jul 18 2003, 10:11 PM
If we were able to perfect the art of cloning I think it should only be used to bring back animals that we humans wiped out, such as the Dodo. There are arguments that early man may have contributed to the mammoths early demise, but it can never be proven. These animals were highly specialised and adapted to Ice Age life and the unique habitat that the giant icecaps supported.
There was talk of trying to clone the Tassie Tiger - maybe they should concentrate on this species as they would still have a natural habitat in which to be released into and also it has been widely accepted that man brought them to extinction.
Hyperion
Jul 20 2003, 08:57 PM
Cloning Mammoths sounds good. WE need new and interesting things in our very boring lives
Aslan
Jul 20 2003, 09:40 PM
Why not T-Rexs then? Or the Scrofula virus? Or hundreds of Adolf Hitlers?
Kismit
Jul 20 2003, 11:32 PM
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| Why not T-Rexs then? Or the Scrofula virus? Or hundreds of Adolf Hitlers? |
Actually and I know that sometimes I'm not as caring as I should be , I think the T-Rex is a great Idea . I'm really going to get it for this but scientists have not managed to clone an animal with a long life expectancy . Infact the drawback to current cloning techniques is the shortened life expectancy of the clone . In other words it wouldn't live long and the things we could learn from an actuall living T-Rex or Mamoth makes it worth delving into . Makes more sence to me than cloning a stupid sheep.
Question : What's the Scrofula virus ?
snuffypuffer
Jul 21 2003, 07:09 PM
Yeah, but when the cloned T-Rex starts having the zookeepers for appetizers, the whole cloning idea may have to be rethought a little.
Aslan
Jul 21 2003, 07:20 PM
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| Question : What's the Scrofula virus ? |
It's a skin disease, as far as I can remember. It used to be called the King's Evil because people believed that the touch of the reigning monarch could cure it. Interestingly enough, Samuel Johnson suffered from Scrofula, and his mother took him to see the king - either George II or III, my memory fails me - to try and get it fixed. And this was in the eighteenth century, the supposed age of enlightenment.
Basically I picked an obscure, defunct disease to try and sound like a smartarse.
Kismit
Jul 21 2003, 09:02 PM
Thank you Aslan , atleast as a smartass you taught me something new .
Kaj
Aug 17 2003, 10:02 PM
| QUOTE (gnalaj @ Jul 17 2003, 07:11 PM) |
| Will it taste like beef or chicken? I bet that's what the scientists really want to find out. |
"Oh.... can I eat it??"
Humanity sucks...wont say no more on that...promise.
Halo_Jones
Aug 19 2003, 04:54 PM
Oh thanks Kaj for leading me to this, Wow! cloning a mammoth

How cool is that! I sort of agree with what Aslan is saying but if a rare animal is on the brink of extinction would you just let it die out cause it was mean't to be, or do something to help the animal evade extintion? like cloning it then using the resulting progeny for breeding programs.
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| Yeah, but when the cloned T-Rex starts having the zookeepers for appetizers, the whole cloning idea may have to be rethought a little. |
A T-rex!!!! Now your talking.

Tigers eat their keepers all the time but we've still got them in zoos.
I for one, and most of you if your honest, would love the oportunity to see an animal that hasn't been seen by modern eyes.
Sukato-San
Aug 19 2003, 05:24 PM
Why can't Japanese scientists try and clone something worth while... Like Rita Hayworth?
*shrugs* I mean, since nobody cares about wooly mammoths and all.
Kaj
Aug 19 2003, 07:25 PM
I´m not sure I like cloning in every aspect you can look at it.
But sure, I would love to see the mammoth alive and kicking.
Here´s a link, Look at the "Mammoth files" aswell.
LINK !!!!I see it like this: We,the humans have exterminated lots of spieces, why not give something back???
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