Hey people I was wondering about pentagrams, and its origins. I did some research about it, and it had to do something with Paganism. But how does it ever relate to Satanism??
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The inverted pentagram is what Satanists use as a symbol of Baphomet which means as above as below, meaning light and darkness are equal. Satanists only started using this from the 1960s when Satanism was invented by Anton Le Vey, although it goes back to the knights templer as in the Baphomet meaning. It was popularised by modern religion and horror movies as a symbol of evil which it most definitely isn’t. Christians, Muslims, and Jews have used it to demonize the pagan religion or the old religion as evil and satanic. Satanism is not a religion, but a ideology and thought, which has nothing to do with paganism or nature worship which is what paganism is, it is the worship of the nature of all things.
The real meaning however is it is a ancient pagan symbol that symbolised nature and life and man kinds connection with the god and goddess.
THE PENTAGRAM (PENTACLE) AND ITS DIFFERENT MEANINGS
The Pentagram can mean different things to different people, its been used to represent good and evil in many religious societies in the worlds history, it goes back as far back as 3100-2900 BCE where it was found on potsherds in the location of Uruk near to the mouth of the gulf, it also can be seen in Babylon, 900 BCE…….. its meaning to early Christians was that it represented the 5 wounds of Christ and was a symbol of Jesus on the cross just like the crucifix is today, but over time Christianity has changed it into a symbol of the devil which is not so as its predated the invention of Satan by 1000s of years. Christianity’s growing belief that the Pentagram represents Satan probably comes from its connection with the star Venus the roman goddess of love that would over a period of time do a Pentagram movement through out the celestial sky.
The Pentagram was also called the Druids foot because its said that the ancient druids wore them on there feet to represent there selves to the earth.
There are many Pentagrams on some of the oldest churches in the UK this might be because of the Christians old belief in the Pentagram representing Christ or it could have been that some of the newly converted Christians form paganism where reluctant to walk away from there old pagan ways completely, this could also explain why many churches and cathedrals where built on old pagan places of worship where ley lines meet and knew that pagan places of worship where of huge energy points so building a church on them would make sense to the Christians of them times even thought they condemned paganism they where using a bit of mix and match.
Above the Baptistory of St. John
Christianity then demonized the five pointed star because it was a roman religious symbol so it was against there lord Jesus Christ, another way they might have looked at it is that it has five points and each points spells out the name of the beast S.A.T.A.N and also when the Pentagram is up side down it looks like the devil with its horns and goatee beard. But some believe that the 5 points on the pentagram spell out J.E.S.U.S when its up the right way.
Above the Pentagram as Christians and Satanists now see it, some would say that the inverted way is the earthly way, the way of the beast, to wear it up side down would mean the individual person and that we are just another animal or beast, which is why many Satanists believe in individualism today. one of the 9 satanic rules (the 7th) is that man is just another animal, because to be an individual is to separate them selves from the flock, which would mean to leave gods flock of a christianised society, proclaiming them self no longer a lamb of Christ therefor one might be seen to be against the Christian god. Also looked upon as the symbol of Baphomet that represents a balance of light and darkness.
Above the Pentagram how some see it as not against god but for god’s good, both of these ideas of the Pentagram are not what neo-pagans or ancient pagans believe or believed, most of the above ideas have been formed over time by Christians and modern day Satanism, this idea is not what most pagans believe.
The ancient connection with the goddess of love Venus (which I might add has been called by Christianity as the morning star In Revelation, Jesus referred to himself as the bright and morning star...... and later the star also became the false light of Lucifer the light bearer) it was seen in the ancient pagan Greek and roman beliefs there are also Pentagrams seen on ancient Egyptian pottery.
The pattern that Venus moves in the sky in conjunctions with the Sun forms a Pentagram being the greatest goddess of all……. The goddess of love to the Romans, and to the Greeks Aphrodite, and the ancient Egyptians Isis
Above you can see that the movements of Venus draw out the Pentagram in the sky.
many political leaders have used the Pentagram as a symbol of power, for instance if you look at the shape the points of a Pentagram make you can see it makes a pentagon the reason the USA have shaped there war operations as a pentagon.
Above the pentagon outside the Pentagram. Most modern pagans are appalled that the symbol of the Pentagram is used by America to represent war and that its used to symbolise evil intent of power.
Also the Pentagram is used on the American medal of honour.
Above the American medal of honour. Its also interesting to note that its used up side down when used for a war medal.
Isn’t it strange that many Christian fundamentalists are pro America going to war when on the other hand they condemn the Pentagram as evil and of the devils sign, theirs something to people to think about.
The pagans meaning to the Pentagram
The pagan belief in the Pentagram is that its four points represent earth, air, fire, water and the top point representing spirit or the higher power, it also represents the minds eye of the figure of a person with its arms and legs out stretched, it represents the higher self of man, the mind and consciousness of man, or our divine self, its why many pagans use magic and the Pentagram to perform his or hers magic(k) as they realise that the power of the divine is with in us all and is represented by the highest point on the Pentagram (our consciousness) its self the focal point of spiritual energy, followed by the hands that can be used to direct this spirit energy’s into the physical world to cause change most of the time for good but in rare cases for bad.
The pentagon in the centre of a Pentagram represents the Solar plexus which means the goddess’s womb, the giver of spiritual life and also symbolises the woman’s womb from which all physical life comes from. the womb also means change to many pagans, its represented by the cauldron
Invoking and banishing a Pentagram will be used in pagan rituals, there is a invoking Pentagram that is drawn into the air to invoke something or a banishing Pentagram that’s is drawn into the air to banish something, but act of ritual are done knowing the energy’s created by these rituals comes from the goddess and god force that we as humans are all connected to.
The Pentagram is a representation of nature which can only exist if earth, air, fire, and water exist its these elements of nature that represent the god and goddess that causes nature to be.... two of the elements are female energies or goddess energies which are represented by a up side down triangle which looks like a cup that represents water and the other two are male or god energies which is represented by a triangle up the right way that looks like the shape of a fire which you can see in the above diagram...... earth and water are female and fire and air are male.
The Pentagram also is a eternal pattern like an endless knot meaning the eternal soul.
My understanding of the Pentagram is that it represents nature as I am a pagan that believes that the nature of both god and goddess can be seen and found within the beauty of nature so, the Pentagram means that man is apart of all living things and is apart of nature that a higher force created, so we as humans should be more responsible and look after our planet as its a stunning and amazing place with a life of its own, the life force of mother nature, she was put here for us all to come to and learn, with out it we as humans would be no where, we would not have a home, so the Pentagram to me and many other pagans is a symbol of my home (the earth) and of the higher powers that created the earth, universe and nature.
All the best
Faeden
The inverted pentagram is what Satanists use as a symbol of Baphomet which means as above as below, meaning light and darkness are equal. Satanists only started using this from the 1960s when Satanism was invented by Anton Le Vey, although it goes back to the knights templer as in the Baphomet meaning. It was popularised by modern religion and horror movies as a symbol of evil which it most definitely isn’t. Christians, Muslims, and Jews have used it to demonize the pagan religion or the old religion as evil and satanic. Satanism is not a religion, but a ideology and thought, which has nothing to do with paganism or nature worship which is what paganism is, it is the worship of the nature of all things.
The real meaning however is it is a ancient pagan symbol that symbolised nature and life and man kinds connection with the god and goddess.
THE PENTAGRAM (PENTACLE) AND ITS DIFFERENT MEANINGS
The Pentagram can mean different things to different people, its been used to represent good and evil in many religious societies in the worlds history, it goes back as far back as 3100-2900 BCE where it was found on potsherds in the location of Uruk near to the mouth of the gulf, it also can be seen in Babylon, 900 BCE…….. its meaning to early Christians was that it represented the 5 wounds of Christ and was a symbol of Jesus on the cross just like the crucifix is today, but over time Christianity has changed it into a symbol of the devil which is not so as its predated the invention of Satan by 1000s of years. Christianity’s growing belief that the Pentagram represents Satan probably comes from its connection with the star Venus the roman goddess of love that would over a period of time do a Pentagram movement through out the celestial sky.
The Pentagram was also called the Druids foot because its said that the ancient druids wore them on there feet to represent there selves to the earth.
There are many Pentagrams on some of the oldest churches in the UK this might be because of the Christians old belief in the Pentagram representing Christ or it could have been that some of the newly converted Christians form paganism where reluctant to walk away from there old pagan ways completely, this could also explain why many churches and cathedrals where built on old pagan places of worship where ley lines meet and knew that pagan places of worship where of huge energy points so building a church on them would make sense to the Christians of them times even thought they condemned paganism they where using a bit of mix and match.
Above the Baptistory of St. John
Christianity then demonized the five pointed star because it was a roman religious symbol so it was against there lord Jesus Christ, another way they might have looked at it is that it has five points and each points spells out the name of the beast S.A.T.A.N and also when the Pentagram is up side down it looks like the devil with its horns and goatee beard. But some believe that the 5 points on the pentagram spell out J.E.S.U.S when its up the right way.
Above the Pentagram as Christians and Satanists now see it, some would say that the inverted way is the earthly way, the way of the beast, to wear it up side down would mean the individual person and that we are just another animal or beast, which is why many Satanists believe in individualism today. one of the 9 satanic rules (the 7th) is that man is just another animal, because to be an individual is to separate them selves from the flock, which would mean to leave gods flock of a christianised society, proclaiming them self no longer a lamb of Christ therefor one might be seen to be against the Christian god. Also looked upon as the symbol of Baphomet that represents a balance of light and darkness.
Above the Pentagram how some see it as not against god but for god’s good, both of these ideas of the Pentagram are not what neo-pagans or ancient pagans believe or believed, most of the above ideas have been formed over time by Christians and modern day Satanism, this idea is not what most pagans believe.
The ancient connection with the goddess of love Venus (which I might add has been called by Christianity as the morning star In Revelation, Jesus referred to himself as the bright and morning star...... and later the star also became the false light of Lucifer the light bearer) it was seen in the ancient pagan Greek and roman beliefs there are also Pentagrams seen on ancient Egyptian pottery.
The pattern that Venus moves in the sky in conjunctions with the Sun forms a Pentagram being the greatest goddess of all……. The goddess of love to the Romans, and to the Greeks Aphrodite, and the ancient Egyptians Isis
Above you can see that the movements of Venus draw out the Pentagram in the sky.
many political leaders have used the Pentagram as a symbol of power, for instance if you look at the shape the points of a Pentagram make you can see it makes a pentagon the reason the USA have shaped there war operations as a pentagon.
Above the pentagon outside the Pentagram. Most modern pagans are appalled that the symbol of the Pentagram is used by America to represent war and that its used to symbolise evil intent of power.
Also the Pentagram is used on the American medal of honour.
Above the American medal of honour. Its also interesting to note that its used up side down when used for a war medal.
Isn’t it strange that many Christian fundamentalists are pro America going to war when on the other hand they condemn the Pentagram as evil and of the devils sign, theirs something to people to think about.
The pagans meaning to the Pentagram
The pagan belief in the Pentagram is that its four points represent earth, air, fire, water and the top point representing spirit or the higher power, it also represents the minds eye of the figure of a person with its arms and legs out stretched, it represents the higher self of man, the mind and consciousness of man, or our divine self, its why many pagans use magic and the Pentagram to perform his or hers magic(k) as they realise that the power of the divine is with in us all and is represented by the highest point on the Pentagram (our consciousness) its self the focal point of spiritual energy, followed by the hands that can be used to direct this spirit energy’s into the physical world to cause change most of the time for good but in rare cases for bad.
The pentagon in the centre of a Pentagram represents the Solar plexus which means the goddess’s womb, the giver of spiritual life and also symbolises the woman’s womb from which all physical life comes from. the womb also means change to many pagans, its represented by the cauldron
Invoking and banishing a Pentagram will be used in pagan rituals, there is a invoking Pentagram that is drawn into the air to invoke something or a banishing Pentagram that’s is drawn into the air to banish something, but act of ritual are done knowing the energy’s created by these rituals comes from the goddess and god force that we as humans are all connected to.
The Pentagram is a representation of nature which can only exist if earth, air, fire, and water exist its these elements of nature that represent the god and goddess that causes nature to be.... two of the elements are female energies or goddess energies which are represented by a up side down triangle which looks like a cup that represents water and the other two are male or god energies which is represented by a triangle up the right way that looks like the shape of a fire which you can see in the above diagram...... earth and water are female and fire and air are male.
The Pentagram also is a eternal pattern like an endless knot meaning the eternal soul.
My understanding of the Pentagram is that it represents nature as I am a pagan that believes that the nature of both god and goddess can be seen and found within the beauty of nature so, the Pentagram means that man is apart of all living things and is apart of nature that a higher force created, so we as humans should be more responsible and look after our planet as its a stunning and amazing place with a life of its own, the life force of mother nature, she was put here for us all to come to and learn, with out it we as humans would be no where, we would not have a home, so the Pentagram to me and many other pagans is a symbol of my home (the earth) and of the higher powers that created the earth, universe and nature.
All the best
Faeden
Baphomet and Blasphomet are one and the same right ?
No sorry it was a typo, corrected it 
QUOTE(Faeden @ Aug 11 2005, 01:19 AM)
No sorry it was a typo, corrected it
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I never thought I'd see the day when you made a mistake like that Faeden.
now I can die happy
LOL I have to use spell check, I am a crap speller….. Spell check did not have the correction for Baphomet either 
QUOTE(Faeden @ Aug 11 2005, 01:25 AM)
LOL I have to use spell check, I am a crap speller….. Spell check did not have the correction for Baphomet either
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well it wouldn't would it
spell check by Microsoft
Baphomet by Satan
kinda similar all the same
Thank you for the info faeden.I go to a highschool where a lot of little so called (goths) wear the pentagram as a symbol of evil.Unaware that it isn't really.I think its sad. 
Wow, thank you Faeden, for that information. But I read from book saying that Anton Le Vey was a fraud, is that true? Oh yeah, isnt Marduk a band?? 
QUOTE(Cody lee Williams @ Aug 11 2005, 02:01 AM)
Thank you for the info faeden.I go to a highschool where a lot of little so called (goths) wear the pentagram as a symbol of evil.Unaware that it isn't really.I think its sad.
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Yah, lol, me 2. My friends think im a devil worshipper when I talk it.
QUOTE(Claizen @ Aug 11 2005, 03:04 AM)
Wow, thank you Faeden, for that information. But I read from book saying that Anton Le Vey was a fraud, is that true? Oh yeah, isnt Marduk a band??
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Names Bel Marduk
but you can call me HM if you like
QUOTE(Claizen @ Aug 11 2005, 02:04 AM)
Wow, thank you Faeden, for that information. But I read from book saying that Anton Le Vey was a fraud, is that true? Oh yeah, isnt Marduk a band??
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What I read is that he made up a lot of things about his past. His real story was much less interesting and founded the Church of Satan as a way to seduce women.
What kind of women was he trying to seduce????
Not the kind you'd take home to mother...
He wanted women who he could control, the church was just a way to draw confused lost people into his world, he used Satan like some use God, It was all about power alot like Charles Manson, he played on people emotions and help to fill voids in there life, And they followed him and his crazy teaching's. 
Hi Claizen
In my opinion he is and was a fraud yes, he talked a lot of crap, and was a pretty nasty person, he beat his pet dog to death, and treated women like crap, he was a fool.
Hi Isis
Satanists do not believe in any type of god figure, they do not believe in Satan as a spiritual entity, just a symbol of mans freedom of religious control, Satanists in a sense are atheists.
All the best
Faeden
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Wow, thank you Faeden, for that information. But I read from book saying that Anton Le Vey was a fraud, is that true?
In my opinion he is and was a fraud yes, he talked a lot of crap, and was a pretty nasty person, he beat his pet dog to death, and treated women like crap, he was a fool.
Hi Isis
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he used Satan like some use God,
Satanists do not believe in any type of god figure, they do not believe in Satan as a spiritual entity, just a symbol of mans freedom of religious control, Satanists in a sense are atheists.
All the best
Faeden
HI Faeden, Thank you, but i already know this! I was just using then as example's, I guess it was a poor choice, I just wanted to show how people use items as a tool to bring other's into their beliefs, but i see it did not work to well, thanks for pointing it out! 
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