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Friendly Immigrant
Hi,

I am an American immigrant and I always thought Caucasians were different than other people in certain ways. Well, a current university psychology Professor has studied that uniqueness and wrote a report on his findings:

What Makes Western Culture Unique?

Kevin MacDonald

In general, cultural uniqueness could derive from either nature or nurture—the same old ageless dichotomy, but I think now we are in a better position to deal with these issues than in times past, and I will be arguing that both are important. Western cultures have experienced certain unique cultural transformations that cannot be predicted by any biological/evolutionary theory, but they also have had a unique evolutionary history. Western culture was built by people who differ genetically from those who have built the other civilizations and cultures of the world. In the following I will argue that Western cultures have a unique cultural profile compared to other traditional civilizations:

1) The Catholic Church and Christianity.

2) A tendency toward monogamy.

3) A tendency toward simple family structure based on the nuclear family.

4) A greater tendency for marriage to be companionate and based on mutual affection of the partners.

5) A de-emphasis on extended kinship relationships and its correlative, a relative lack of ethnocentrism.

6) A tendency toward individualism and all of its implications: individual rights against the state, representative government, moral universalism, and science.

[ . . . ]

Complete article is at http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol2no2/km-unique.html
Friendly Immigrant
Thoughts?
Erikl
QUOTE(Friendly Immigrant @ Aug 12 2005, 07:22 AM)
Thoughts?
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Rubbish.
isis-999
I don't buy into this at all. no.gif
Lost_In_Thought
Bunch of Bull in my Opinion.....
aquatus1
The article is mildly interesting, but how exactly did you translate this paper on western culture into a treatise specifically on Caucasians?
Scorpio_71
I would recomend finding and re writing a better analysis on your thoughts.

I am a white American Republican.

I see everyday blacks and mexicans that follow a lot of your ideas.

maybe try something like, whites/caucasions are unique at hockey or nascar whistling2.gif

My own personal assumption is that we have more likeable music choices. (and the hockey/nascar thing)

we have to stop trying to judge those who look and are different.
how do I know?
I am a long haired, heavily tattooed large man who unintentionally makes people afraid to even talk with me. Labels man...... lets get rid of them.
Erikl
It's all rubbish cause you simply can't divide people like that.
Everyone is mixed to a certain point, may it be in recent history or thousands of years ago.

As for the belief that Caucasians = Europeans and their descendants, that's numerically not-accurate.
Most "Caucasians" are in fact of Western Asian, North African and Indian origin.
Caustic
We all started in the same place so whats the difference?
Celumnaz
What makes western culture unique?

Or is it really, unique?
Piney

As a person who lives in the woods in a "tri-racial isolate" (black/white/native) community. I say its bullcrap for anyone to stereotype anybody and that is what this article does......

lapi'che ni'tis
Erikl
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Aug 12 2005, 08:48 PM)
What makes western culture unique?

Or is it really, unique?
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Well, the term "western" is actually pretty confusing.
For your average western european, it's probably between Spain and Germany, and Italy and the UK.
For your average American, though, Germans and French are less western than British people, and the Latin people of south america have nothing to do with western civilization at all.
For both western europeans and americans, though, Poland and what lies east, is "eastern europe" - the none western part of that subcontinent.
For your average Arab, though, both a Russian and a British are westerners.

But for your average east-asian, Arabs, Europeans, Americans, etc. are all westerners - they all believe in the same single god, both their cultures originates from the middle-east, both are "whites", and both use a strange system to write their languages, called "alphabet".
aquatus1
True enough, but let's not be coy. In pretty much all these places, when one talks about western culture, one is talking about Americans.

And make no mistake, American culture is a relatively new and incredibly different culture than has ever been seen before on the scale that we do it.
Erikl
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when one talks about western culture, one is talking about Americans


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You just showed what I mean tongue.gif.
I think the French and the Germans will disagree about where the center of western civilization is, and who's a westerner and who's not.


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American culture is a relatively new and incredibly different culture than has ever been seen before on the scale that we do it.

Probably not... American culture is largely british, anglo-saxon derived, with many elements from other regions of Europe, and a strong african element added to it.
If you want to see what Europe would look like had the British Empire conquered it let's say 300 years ago, forced their language on Europe just like they did in our time in oversea, third world, colonies, and didn't cancel slavery - you should look at the the USA.
aquatus1
QUOTE(Erikl @ Aug 13 2005, 09:14 AM)
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You just showed what I mean tongue.gif.
I think the French and the Germans will disagree about where the center of western civilization is, and who's a westerner and who's not.


I'm not talking about the dictionary definition or the direction the compass points. I'm talking about the slight sneer, and the roll of the eyes everytime one refers to 'western culture'. I'm saying that 'western culture', in most of these places, 'equates to saying 'Americanism'. It has nothing to do with geography.

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American culture is a relatively new and incredibly different culture than has ever been seen before on the scale that we do it.
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Probably not... American culture is largely british, anglo-saxon derived, with many elements from other regions of Europe, and a strong african element added to it.
If you want to see what Europe would look like had the British Empire conquered it let's say 300 years ago, forced their language on Europe just like they did in our time in oversea, third world, colonies, and didn't cancel slavery - you should look at the the USA.[right][snapback]787957[/snapback][/right]


Exactly. America is the result of a thousand different situations that have simply never occured before in the history of the world, certainly not to the extent that it has here. Because of this, our world-view is considerably affected and different from that of other countries, all of which contributed to, but none of which are made up of, all the parts that America is made up of.
Piney

Not to get back on subject again but I followed your Transtopia link and laughed till I had to pee. Is that site some sort of joke from Ooze.com blink.gif . You can't be serious there Friendly Immigrant? huh.gif

lapi'che ni'tis
Erikl
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I'm not talking about the dictionary definition or the direction the compass points. I'm talking about the slight sneer, and the roll of the eyes everytime one refers to 'western culture'. I'm saying that 'western culture', in most of these places, 'equates to saying 'Americanism'. It has nothing to do with geography.



And I'm not talking geography neither. Germans, French, Italians, Dutch, etc. all define themselves as "Westerners".
And they have every right to do so - many things used in the US were invented in those countries, not to mention that many americans themselves originate from these countries.

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Exactly. America is the result of a thousand different situations that have simply never occured before in the history of the world, certainly not to the extent that it has here. Because of this, our world-view is considerably affected and different from that of other countries, all of which contributed to, but none of which are made up of, all the parts that America is made up of.

That has nothing to do with American culture, which is basically Europonized British culture, with strong religious element to it.

And there are other cases similar to America - Australia, Canada, all of Latin america - are all cases of massive migrations of people from Europe to other continents.
In south america, though, the culture that dominates is a Latin one, instead of British, and there's a strong elements of Native American traditions because many south americans are descendants of American Indians.
Baku
What do you mean Caucasians are different then the others, Im from Azerbaycan thats in Caucasians area and there is nothing different here. In fact the Caucasians area is a mix of Persia, Russia and Turkey. We speak all those languages including our own. So nothing different here man, your sources are all wrong.
aquatus1
QUOTE(Erikl @ Aug 13 2005, 02:04 PM)
That has nothing to do with American culture, which is basically Europonized British culture, with strong religious element to it.


Well, what can I say? I disagree. I can't really see how this is going to get proven one way or another, so I'm dropping it.
Erikl
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Aug 13 2005, 03:51 PM)
QUOTE(Erikl @ Aug 13 2005, 02:04 PM)
That has nothing to do with American culture, which is basically Europonized British culture, with strong religious element to it.


Well, what can I say? I disagree. I can't really see how this is going to get proven one way or another, so I'm dropping it.
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Watzel
When I was a young hippie, I would always meet different people and feel excited about getting to know a persons character. In fact if you were different it was looked upon as being unique, in a positive way. I could also see the beauty in people that would be looked upon now days as unattractive. The new age societies are very looks oriented and it is hurting our chances of making progress toward a more tolerant, peaceful world. It also perpetuates racism.

I think racism is an emotion that comes forth out of anger. Racist people need to look deep in themselves to try and find out what is the bases of their anger. It could be many reasons or maybe just one. I know as a white person, I resent being labeled or pigeon holed into some group that a researcher is claiming represents the whole.

We need to stop trying to imagine that a certain race must be how we see some of them behaving, it is ignorant and immature. wacko.gif
ROGER
Well said Watzel. I agree with you. thumbsup.gif
RedX
Your right Watzel grin2.gif
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