Full Version: Why would god play 'The Sims' with your life?
Why would god play 'The Sims' with your life? that makes no sense. If i could do anything I wanted i wouldnt do that. Hell, im bored of the sims already, and im sure to be bored of it after an eternity. Opinions?
i dont believe in god
but as far as i am aware those who do dont believe god contols us like we are "the sims"
they may ask him for guidance, we control our own actions
but as far as i am aware those who do dont believe god contols us like we are "the sims"
they may ask him for guidance, we control our own actions
I do not believe in god either, but people always say "He has a plan for your life", which implies that he controls it.
QUOTE(DubestEinDumkopf @ Aug 11 2005, 12:44 PM)
I do not believe in god either, but people always say "He has a plan for your life", which implies that he controls it.
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Excellent point I don't beleive in God either as defined by any of the bibles I beleive the only meaning my life has is the meaning I give it, Free Will,
If God had wanted me to be and do everything perfectly she would have left me in a state of total perfection, If God has a plan for me it would be to realize the goddess within having that idea turned into experience as my life lived. How could I know the god essence within if I have nothing to choose from (hence the realm of the relative0 Just my opinion Namaste Sheri
My point exactly!
What is "the Sims" ? 
A video game where you create people and control every aspect of their life, such as if they fall in love, what their houses look like, if they can talk to each other etc. etc.
But unlike us playing The Sims, He doesn't sadistically burn them(us) in a fire, starve us to death, etc. It's kinda like God can go forward, see what will happen, go back, correct it, etc. Oh, and He already knows the outcome 
Which makes it all the more boring. And he has a history of not going back and redoing things for good. If he already knows what would happen, why would he HAVE to go back and redo things. Plus actually he does burn people and starve them to death etc. etc. Otherwise burning and starvation etc. etc. wouldnt exist. 
Yeah... I didn't mean it like that. I meant sadistically burn/ starve, which means do it for His own pleasure.
Example, please. And none of that crap about the "mass genocides" in the OT please, we get sick of trying to debunk that stuff
I admit, I shouldn't have worded like that, and I apologize. He doesn't need to. He can and does go forward, backward, and present.
Who's it boring to: you, or God?
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And he has a history of not going back and redoing things for good.
Example, please. And none of that crap about the "mass genocides" in the OT please, we get sick of trying to debunk that stuff
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If he already knows what would happen, why would he HAVE to go back and redo things.
I admit, I shouldn't have worded like that, and I apologize. He doesn't need to. He can and does go forward, backward, and present.
Who's it boring to: you, or God?
QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 11 2005, 08:22 PM)
But unlike us playing The Sims, He doesn't sadistically burn them(us) in a fire, starve us to death, etc. It's kinda like God can go forward, see what will happen, go back, correct it, etc. Oh, and He already knows the outcome
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Uh.. if he controls every aspect of life.. then he controls every fire that's ever happend.. every bomb that went off, every murder, every country that's poor and has starving children.
So, yeah... he's sadistic.
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QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 11 2005, 08:22 PM)
But unlike us playing The Sims, He doesn't sadistically burn them(us) in a fire, starve us to death, etc. It's kinda like God can go forward, see what will happen, go back, correct it, etc. Oh, and He already knows the outcome
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Uh.. if he controls every aspect of life.. then he controls every fire that's ever happend.. every bomb that went off, every murder, every country that's poor and has starving children.
So, yeah... he's sadistic.
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But... it all comes together for good. Not sadistic, just giving man a test to reward him at the end
1. Stop making excuses. 2. If he can go back in time, than he should eliminate the pain and suffering and just give us the reward (that is, if we pass the test). 3. Just the fact that he gives rewards on a pain-then-reward basis is sadistic. And it doesnt come together for good. 
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QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Aug 11 2005, 01:47 PM)
QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 11 2005, 08:22 PM)
But unlike us playing The Sims, He doesn't sadistically burn them(us) in a fire, starve us to death, etc. It's kinda like God can go forward, see what will happen, go back, correct it, etc. Oh, and He already knows the outcome
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Uh.. if he controls every aspect of life.. then he controls every fire that's ever happend.. every bomb that went off, every murder, every country that's poor and has starving children.
So, yeah... he's sadistic.
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But... it all comes together for good. Not sadistic, just giving man a test to reward him at the end
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Yes.. losing a child to a burning house is such a good thing.
Being shot in the back by someone is such a good thing...
Sorry, but no... Your god is a sadistic fellow... Remember.. he does this crap so you'll fall to your knees and pray to him... So not he's not just sadistic, he's egotistical..
It's a good thing I'm not god, I always put my Sims in a room with a big flammable carpet, take the door away and command one of them to light the fire. 
Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.
But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
QUOTE(Septimus @ Aug 11 2005, 02:42 PM)
It's a good thing I'm not god, I always put my Sims in a room with a big flammable carpet, take the door away and command one of them to light the fire. Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.
But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then again, we ARE made to be in god's image. So, maybe he does amuse himself by picking some poor soul to torture. Kinda scary, isn't it??
QUOTE(DubestEinDumkopf @ Aug 11 2005, 07:39 PM)
Why would god play 'The Sims' with your life? that makes no sense. If i could do anything I wanted i wouldnt do that. Hell, im bored of the sims already, and im sure to be bored of it after an eternity. Opinions?
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maybe he's bored...and wanna have some fun
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QUOTE(DubestEinDumkopf @ Aug 11 2005, 07:39 PM)
Why would god play 'The Sims' with your life? that makes no sense. If i could do anything I wanted i wouldnt do that. Hell, im bored of the sims already, and im sure to be bored of it after an eternity. Opinions?
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maybe he's bored...and wanna have some fun
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This brings up an interesting topic, though. What if this was all matrix-y, and like- "god" was actually someone like a kid sitting in front of a computer screen and we are all the little sims getting burned? God, then, would just be like you and me, but in some other realm, of course. That's if "he" exists in the first place.
We wonder so much about why god put us here or what god wants us to do next but we don't do a lot of thinking about where GOD came from, what he's doing there, and why he does what he does.
QUOTE(Septimus @ Aug 11 2005, 01:43 PM)
QUOTE(Septimus @ Aug 11 2005, 02:42 PM)
It's a good thing I'm not god, I always put my Sims in a room with a big flammable carpet, take the door away and command one of them to light the fire. Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.
But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then again, we ARE made to be in god's image. So, maybe he does amuse himself by picking some poor soul to torture. Kinda scary, isn't it??
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and worse than that, his deluded followers would enjoy it thinking either it is just a test of their devotion or that they were in heaven regardless.
yes, it is rediculous the excapism and denial believers display.
TaintedDoughnuts: Example, please. And none of that crap about the "mass genocides" in the OT please, we get sick of trying to debunk that stuff
Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible ( NT for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible ( NT for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
god created good and evil and delites in them both. it is in isaiah. you find it!
i know what larry is good at double posting gosh i thought old timers were supposed to be smart
back to the topic i don't see how you can just go and join a forum than start a topic to try to get everybody to argue all i'm saying is your a close minded inconsiderate ignarent dwarve that eats his own crap
have a good day
-IAC
back to the topic i don't see how you can just go and join a forum than start a topic to try to get everybody to argue all i'm saying is your a close minded inconsiderate ignarent dwarve that eats his own crap
have a good day
-IAC
I'm afraid if I were god playing sims, a guy would end up in a room with no door, food, window, toilet, sink, no way to communicate, and a fireplace with a couch nearby. Well, maybe one window and a telescope, so when it's after 12:00 sim hours, he could get abducted by aliens.
QUOTE(LarryOldtimer @ Aug 11 2005, 07:17 PM)
TaintedDoughnuts: Example, please. And none of that crap about the "mass genocides" in the OT please, we get sick of trying to debunk that stuff
Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible (for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
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Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible (for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
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You got to it before I did!
I would like to see TD's answer on this.
QUOTE(LarryOldtimer Posted Today @ 07:23 PM )
In the Book of Job, "God" certainly gave permission to Satan to torture Job. Even "egged him on", IMO. Is there any real difference between torturing a person "Himself" and approving the torture? If Satan wouldn't have done the cruel things to Job without "God's" authorization, isn't "God" as guilty of the torture as Satan is? I would sure think so.
Let me see if I can find a certain verse....Hey here it is read this:QUOTE(Job 42:11 )
Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
Was is Satan or was it God?
QUOTE(iac_tracker @ Aug 11 2005, 04:33 PM)
i know what larry is good at double posting gosh i thought old timers were supposed to be smart
back to the topic i don't see how you can just go and join a forum than start a topic to try to get everybody to argue all i'm saying is your a close minded inconsiderate ignarent dwarve that eats his own crap
have a good day
-IAC
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back to the topic i don't see how you can just go and join a forum than start a topic to try to get everybody to argue all i'm saying is your a close minded inconsiderate ignarent dwarve that eats his own crap
have a good day
-IAC
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Sorry, even old timers occasionally make mistakes (but I guess you don't consider your misspelling words such, or you would use spell check
)I wasn't under the impression that there was any waiting or probation period for new members to do original posts, and also was under the impression that the primary purpose of posting was to solicit discussion, and that there would certainly be disagreement, usually, as a matter of fact. Am I in a different forum that you think you are?
Sorry - sims is a totally inaccurate example as God doesn't "control" our lives. If he did, we'd have no ability to choose. This is of course based on my beliefs and I'm sure others have different.
Regards,
Regards,
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QUOTE(Septimus @ Aug 11 2005, 01:43 PM)
QUOTE(Septimus @ Aug 11 2005, 02:42 PM)
It's a good thing I'm not god, I always put my Sims in a room with a big flammable carpet, take the door away and command one of them to light the fire. Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.
But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then I turn the backyard into a cemetary and rent the house to new Sims. I love making haunted houses.But supposedly the god that *most* people believe in is a good, caring god that loves us. Even if he was in somewhat control of our lives, he'd be nice about it.
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Then again, we ARE made to be in god's image. So, maybe he does amuse himself by picking some poor soul to torture. Kinda scary, isn't it??
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and worse than that, his deluded followers would enjoy it thinking either it is just a test of their devotion or that they were in heaven regardless.
yes, it is rediculous the excapism and denial believers display.
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I wouldn't call them deluded. I'm convinced that there are tons of different kinds of Christians. It's like taking a group of rockers and assuming they all think and act the same. They don't.
To me, there are different kinds of Christians. There's the kind that waltzes around claiming anyone and everyone who doesn't believe will burn in hell, and the kind who merely believes because they like Jesus' teachings. Jesus had some noice ideas. He was a good man. I don't really like his father much but, some people believe because they see that good in Christianity. Am I wrong?
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QUOTE(LarryOldtimer @ Aug 11 2005, 07:17 PM)
TaintedDoughnuts: Example, please. And none of that crap about the "mass genocides" in the OT please, we get sick of trying to debunk that stuff
Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible (for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
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Amazing. There is a book called the Bible. Part of the Bible (for Christians, not Jews) is the Old Testament. This is considered by Christians and Jews alike to be the "Word of God", and accurate and truthful in every respect. In this book is written where "God" instructed Hebrews (of which only the Jews remain) to kill other tribes of people, and in one instance, all of them, men, women and children, and even their animals. What is to debunk? Are you saying that this part of the Bible isn't "The Word of God"? Are you saying that portions of the Old Testament aren't truthful?
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You got to it before I did!
I would like to see TD's answer on this.
QUOTE(LarryOldtimer Posted Today @ 07:23 PM )
In the Book of Job, "God" certainly gave permission to Satan to torture Job. Even "egged him on", IMO. Is there any real difference between torturing a person "Himself" and approving the torture? If Satan wouldn't have done the cruel things to Job without "God's" authorization, isn't "God" as guilty of the torture as Satan is? I would sure think so.
Let me see if I can find a certain verse....Hey here it is read this:QUOTE(Job 42:11 )
Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
Was is Satan or was it God?
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I am convinced that the only good "HE" has done was when he sent his son down here. Sure, he sent him down here to die. But his son did Christianity a favor. If there was no such thing as the New Testament I would say the Bible is a book of evil.
QUOTE(Septimus Posted Yesterday @ 06:23 PM )
I am convinced that the only good "HE" has done was when he sent his son down here. Sure, he sent him down here to die. But his son did Christianity a favor. If there was no such thing as the New Testament I would say the Bible is a book of evil.
But isn't that "human sacrifice" in the NT?
why would god play the sims with our lives? Beacuse he's a sick bastard.
If you don't mind me making an observation Anukabel - you have an axe to grind against God. Is it against God himself? Or those who act in his name? Or both?
If you don't mind answering....
Regards, PA
If you don't mind answering....
Regards, PA
Who ever said that God play's with our lives?
QUOTE(AnuKabal @ Aug 19 2005, 09:12 AM)
why would god play the sims with our lives? Beacuse he's a sick bastard.
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Your very bored anit you
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