Well, I am not supposedly even part Native American. Supposedly I am 1/2 Irish, 1/4 English, 1/8 Bohemian, and 1/8 German. However, I have a picture of one of my great grandmothers, and if she isn't at least mostly Native American, I will eat my hat. I think it was just one of those "don't talk about it" thingys (she was supposedly on the English side, mother's side). My grandparents on my mother's side and my mother in particular were vehement in their dislike of racism. I think that there might just be a reason. Makes no difference to me anyway . . . IMO, it matters little about ancestory, the only importance is how the individual interacts with others. A father or grandfather can be a king, but the individual may easily be a nitwit . . . look at any list of kings, and that is easily seen. Of course, for my money, the government interferes far too much with about everyone's life these days.

Your right Larry, Not to long ago the Cherokee tribes where going to us some land they owned to open a casion, The government did not care this would give the tribe money for schools, heath care, and other important needs. All they cared about was how much money they could make off our land, Please they where not helping fill the tribe's needs but they wanted a cut of their business! Go figure.

Of course they wanted a cut . . . they are politicians, and their strongest suit is taking money away from people. As I said, I don't think that the reservations should be subject to federal or state law in the first place. Treaties between the various tribes were signed by both parties. Keep in mind that a treaty, in the Constitution, is perforce between the United States and another nation. Technically speaking, reservations, while within the land area of the United States, aren't really a part of the United States . . . they are akin to the land embassies of foreign countries are situated on being the same as the native soil of those foreign countries . . . US laws don't apply. I think the Native Americans had no more to say regarding the terms of those treaties than the Hebrews did regarding "God's covenant" with them, but darn, having signed the treaties, the US should adhere to those treaties . . . and treat the tribes on reservations as separate nations . . . and not part of the US. I can't see that gambling casinos are any different than Las Vegas and Atlantic City, or for that matter, the card casinos in Gardena, CA. I.e., they do no worse harm, and certainly are good for the tribe's finances, and the fates know that the tribes need income, and it is best if it is income they earn for themselves. The Bureau of Indian Affairs has already stolen the tribes blind, so much for "help" for Native Americans by the federal government. Their "help" has been only a license for those bureaucrats to steal. They just want to go on stealing.

Thanks Larry, your so right about all of that.

A Nation within a Nation.

If the nation could only understand that!

here's an update about the site.
thios toronto star site is weird, sometimes you have to register, sometimes you don't, anyway enjoy the update.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentSe...tacodalogin=yes

and after reading isis and nativechick's responses, i must fess up i am a white anglo-saxon, who read "bury my heart at wounded knee" and was sickened to be a whitey after i read that.
but i cannot be responsible for the actions of those before me, only ensure that nothing happens like it again.
maybe the natives americans need to beat us at our own game, build more casinos take our money, buy up out cities that were originally your land, and kick us out. i'm all for karma.

Education and Understanding is key. . We all must learn from the past and like you said, "only ensure that nothing happens like it again".







You're funny!

I think you just uncovered our secret.

True!

well thank you, and, i knew you guys had a plan.
it'll be interesting to see if they can figure out which tribe these people are from.
time wise, they would have been living 100 yrs before colombus bumped into america, toronto on lake ontario 700 yrs ago, would have been a lovely place, not that it isn't now.(i just added that last bit so as not to piss off dot)

Returned to the right Tribe for a proper ceremonial burial.

Very interesting topic! But I really don't want to register just for one article, I mean I'm already resigtered to too many websites and forums at it is!

hm, yeah I agree the americans should give at least some of the land back and also start to mend some of the broken treaties.
I studied the american west for a couple terms for my exams, and a lot of what the americans did were very deceitful, and all for gold inwhich ironicly their greed killed each other, over there 'plots' for gold digging.

Its pretty upsetting the happenings the americans created, kinda makes you wish columbus went the right way and didnt get lost to find america

but theres a saying, can't remember what from though but it goes
"the very young do not always do what they are told"

but yeah, i totally agree that burial grounds and holy sites should be respected. its like if you burned down a church, there'd be a lot of anger and converstry, and there'd be a penalty for it. but the americans are still greedy and do what they want, not respecting the local cultures.

"the very young do not always do what they are told"

but i cannot be responsible for the actions of those before me, only ensure that nothing happens like it again.
maybe the natives americans need to beat us at our own game, build more casinos take our money, buy up out cities that were originally your land, and kick us out. i'm all for karma.{quote}

Thank you we are working on it. The casinos are doing very well and the tribes are making alot of money of the white man trust me...