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Religious texts and geological evidence suggest that several parts of the world have experienced destructive atomic blasts in ages past.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/ancatomicwar1.html
STIX
thats pretty weird o_O
marduk
wrong o
Caustic
Its the whole sodom and gamora thing" if you look back you'll be turned into a pillar of salt". Also the glass found in the desert of northern Africa if I'm not mistaken?
marduk
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
Caustic
I don't remember where but I heard that some of the shards were tested and had nuclear isotopes is it possible that this happened from the meteorite strike?
STIX
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 10:31 AM)
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
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well if aliens exist, then you cannot say that... but asteroid collissions would be a fesible explanation...
oh, and you can't deny the existance of aliens without being a fool.
Caustic
oopsy STIX
marduk
QUOTE(STIX @ Aug 12 2005, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 10:31 AM)
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
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well if aliens exist, then you cannot say that... but asteroid collissions would be a fesible explanation...
oh, and you can't deny the existance of aliens without being a fool.
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I'm not denying the existence of aliens
I am just denying the existence of the kind that would come here and nuke us
You think thats foolish ?
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Caustic
Empty you message folder Marduk I want to PM you please.
STIX
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE(STIX @ Aug 12 2005, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 10:31 AM)
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
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well if aliens exist, then you cannot say that... but asteroid collissions would be a fesible explanation...
oh, and you can't deny the existance of aliens without being a fool.
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I'm not denying the existence of aliens
I am just denying the existence of the kind that would come here and nuke us
You think thats foolish ?
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no no no, just saying tongue.gif

but hey, mabye one of their space ships exploded 10 000 years ago or something as they were checkin out the planet... who knows... but again, cosmic collisions are most likely here... I guess we will never know blush.gif
Cody lee Williams
I think its from the atlanteans some people believe they use atomic thingy ma bobers
marduk
So what you're saying that a spaceship from an alien race armed with human technology nuclear devices crashed above earth a long time ago blink.gif
You think thats a lot more likely than a meteorite or just a little more likely huh.gif
did i miss something mellow.gif
What planet are you on right now, w00t.gif
Lux Felix
QUOTE(Caustic @ Aug 12 2005, 05:28 PM)
Its the whole sodom and gamora thing" if you look back you'll be turned into a pillar of salt".  Also the glass found in the desert of northern Africa if I'm not mistaken?
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the glass are named tectites...are that what u r talking about? dontgetit.gif

Caustic
yes thats what I am talking about.
STIX
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 11:03 AM)
So what you're saying that a spaceship from an alien race armed with human technology nuclear devices crashed above earth a long time ago  blink.gif
You think thats a lot more likely than a meteorite or just a little more likely  huh.gif
did i miss something  mellow.gif
What planet are you on right now,  w00t.gif
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LOL no alien race could be armed with human technology for one thing, I'm saying its not certain to be an atomic bomb that exploded, but that there was an atomic explosion right? from what? I don't know and neither do you, so therefore you can't say that "no huge explosions have ever occoured from a manufactured source" because they could have...
I'm not saying its more likely, just a possibility.
isis-999
The article you posted is very misleading, The US where the first to drop nuke's there is no way there could be any truth in the link you posted. And as far as alien's doing it, Why would they even want to? blink.gif
Lux Felix
the only nuclear explosion in the past I am aware of was in the archean 3.8 to 2.5 billion years ago and it was natural.

STIX
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Aug 12 2005, 11:32 AM)
The article you posted is very misleading, The US where the first to drop nuke's there is no way there could be any truth in the link you posted. And as far as alien's doing it, Why would they even want to? blink.gif
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I dunno... accidental if anything... wacko.gif
isis-999
STIX..You really do not believe alien's have came here and drop nuke's do you. blink.gif
marduk
I can say "no huge explosions have ever occoured from a manufactured source"
because i know more about it than you do
are you taking these ideas wholesale from what oppenheimer said
he was misquoted
or sitchen
he's totally wrong
any other source,because the childress one was lie too that he made up having never actually visited the area
bit like herodotus and babylon

STIX
I don't believe aliens came here and dropped nukes!

I'm just saying, history is all fragments of information and we don't have the complete picture, therefore you are only assuming that "no huge explosions have ever occoured from a manufactured source" because you don't have any evidence of that...

you should state your percentage of error... oh wait, archeologists have a HUGE percentage of error because the globe is so huge and time is a harsh mistress... how about "Its unlikely that no huge explosions have ever occoured from a manufactured source in the past on this planet"
marduk
you ca say what you like
i'm sticking to "no huge explosions have ever occoured from a manufactured source in the ancient past on this planet"
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isis-999
Woowowo You had me worried there for a minute STIX. What you just wrote make's good since to me, I do not know if there has ever been a natural explosion or not, I do know i would think it very unlikely how ever things happen so i can not say for sure. tongue.gif
STIX
fair enough... for the record... its possible you are wrong!
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 01:31 PM)
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
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The term: 'Nuclear device' may not have been conceived before A. Einstein, but that doesn't mean the power of one was never felt in the world before its conception. Vesvius & Thera are two examples.
Redneck
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Aug 12 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 12 2005, 01:31 PM)
no huge explosions have evr occoured from a manufactured source,
occaisonally we get hit by asteroids and comets which cause sheets of glass.
so what
you don't have nukes without nuclear technology and that didn't exist before Einstein
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The term: 'Nuclear device' may not have been conceived before A. Einstein, but that doesn't mean the power of one was never felt in the world before its conception. Vesvius & Thera are two examples.
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They were megaton-range explosions, but they didn't occur from nuclear reactions.
marduk
thats what I mean by non manufactured
I.e. not aliens
i.e. not advanced humans
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i believe i have already posted the megatonne ratings on those A R
Knowledgetruthfreedom
Heres a thought, How would you explain what they found when they uncoverd the ancient city of Mohonjo Daro in india? On exavation they found somthing like out of Pompii, peoples skelitons littered the streets, some holding hands as if waitng an approching doom. They also uncovered on the same level as that of the skelitons green glass, best associated in modren times when a nuke goes off. On top of that, when testing the skelitons revealed high levels of radiation that are very similar to an atomic blast! Parts of the city had litrally been virtrified as seen in other cities and forts all over the world. Virtrification occurs when the stone is heated up to such a degree that the stone blocks fuse together. Even though Mohonjo Daro is much older than other sites that have been virtified. Until the atomic bomb was invented (perhaps re-invented) There was no way to really describe or compare how and what had happend. With the invetions of the atomic bomb, one can see how the effects are similar, except one is much older than the other, never the less, now we have somthing to compare and explain how such a distruction of a city could of occured and how similar the effects are. With all the similiraitys one might very well come to the conclusion that such a devistating device was used thousands and thousands of years ago. It still may very well be from other causes, but what can be seen today is best descibed as an atomic blast.

-Mateo
marduk
Knowledgetruthfreedom
you don't live up to your addy
the event you are talking about didn't happen
there have been no skeltons found with high radiation levels
and no nuclear glass littered the streets
of course if you can provide a link to a reputable site that describes the facts on this you'd have done it already
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Knowledgetruthfreedom
Also virtrification has been recreated in modren times by using simple methods, But is not very funtional, Most virtrified forts and cities are from around 2000 BCE and have been usally attributed to the time when the "sea people" invaded the Mediterranian. Virtrification was done by placing tons of brush and wood on both sides of a wall and in between and lighting it on fire. This is a theroy that invading armys came in a did this to desteroy and weaken an enemies walls, but the only way to do this is if there is intense heat on both side! Meaning the enemy would already have to be inside the city, and occuping it in order to be able to put tons and tons of flamable matirial on both sides in order to create this effect, which is impratical and very time cosuming for an enemy that has already gotten inside a fort or city. Another theroy is that it was used by the builders in order to streathen the walls, this is disscounted due to 1, Virtrification actually weakens the structure instead of making it stronger. Also most virtricated sites have only portions or half of it virtrified, this discredits that the builders where the ones who pouposly virtrified there walls, becuase then they would have done the whole thing, not just parts of it. Another thought on how it was done was greek fire, and if this is true, it would have had to be purely chemical based in order to create such effects.

Perhaps it was the first theroy when it was created, as impratical as that may be, but then again, it could be more.

I just scanned over the site, it had things about this, so i might be just re-writing what was written in the link, ether way, perhaps not.

-Mateo
marduk
you're not rewriting
you are speculating on a subject you clearly don't know the actual details to
if you did
you wouldn't speculate
for instance a vitrified wall might seem brittle to you but compared to a collection of stones piled one on top of the ither its very strong
and they didn't have mortar in the neolithic period
no castle later than that period has vitrified walls
the report on Mohonjo Daro comes from a guide book written by a guy at the start of the century
it describes the ecavation carried out in the 1890s
before geiger counters were invented
who measured the radiation ?
what did they use ?
fairy dust ?
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Knowledgetruthfreedom
Well, then, apperently if my views and knowledge is seen as inaccurate, id love it if u could give me the awnsers! So please, lets hear some, what are your views?

-Mateo
marduk
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QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 12 2005, 11:45 PM)
Well, then, apperently if my views and knowledge is seen as inaccurate, id love it if u could give me the awnsers! So please, lets hear some, what are your views?

-Mateo
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Go read the vimanas thread thumbsup.gif
Knowledgetruthfreedom
I actually read the translation on the ancient indus book "Vymaanika Shaastra" Its very intersting, On the legendary Rama Empire, and there flying crafts known as Vimanas. Is this the same Vimanas your talking about?

-Mateo
marduk
QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 13 2005, 12:07 AM)
I actually read the translation on the ancient indus book "Vymaanika Shaastra" Its very intersting, On the legendary Rama Empire, and there flying crafts known as Vimanas. Is this the same Vimanas your talking about?

-Mateo
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Yes
what do you make of Shivas trident ?
Knowledgetruthfreedom
Is that in the stories of Ramas great battles with the Naga and other people? And if so i dont have knowledge on that at the time, i do have a book that has those stoies in them that i will be reading very soon after i finish my other book on ancient civilizations of Africa. If its the translated text of how to make and use a Vimana, and if u have read it then you know it is quite frustrating and hard to follow, due to the things that could not be translated, the "ingredients". Ether way a summary of Shivas trident would be much welcomed, and if it is from the Vymaanika Shaastra it will help me remember!

Thank you

-Mateo
Essan
QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 12 2005, 10:06 PM)
Heres a thought, How would you explain what they found when they uncoverd the ancient city of Mohonjo Daro in india? On exavation they found somthing like out of Pompii, peoples skelitons littered the streets, some holding hands as if waitng an approching doom.....
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In actual fact, some 37 or 38 skeletons were found during excavations by Sir Mortimer Wheeler in 1946. These showed signs of violent death including deep cut marks on the bones and were originally thought to provide evidence for the 'Aryan Invasion' that supposedly ended the Harappan Culture.

That theory has now been discarded:

QUOTE
Dales and others have since pointed out that the stratigraphic location of these skeletons in the residential area, rather than in the "citadel," and in levels of post-site abandonment, indicate that the "victims" were Post Harappan squatters. A full seven feet of debris separated the "victims" and the true Harappan occupation levels (Dales 1964). More conclusively, detailed skeletal analysis has shown that the "victims" were biologically different from true Harappans.


http://www.adventurecorps.com/archaeo/collapse.html
marduk
QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 13 2005, 12:36 AM)
Is that in the stories of Ramas great battles with the Naga and other people? And if so i dont have knowledge on that at the time, i do have a book that has those stoies in them that i will be reading very soon after i finish my other book on ancient civilizations of Africa. If its the translated text of how to make and use a Vimana, and if u have read it then you know it is quite frustrating and hard to follow, due to the things that could not be translated, the "ingredients". Ether way a summary of Shivas trident would be much welcomed, and if it is from the Vymaanika Shaastra it will help me remember!

Thank you

-Mateo
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you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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Essan
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 13 2005, 10:52 AM)

you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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Well, he wants to make sure the whale doesn't get away...

Whale? w00t.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ Aug 13 2005, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 13 2005, 10:52 AM)

you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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Well, he wants to make sure the whale doesn't get away...

Whale? w00t.gif
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don't be silly
you can't hunt whales with Harpoons
its banned under international Law
its inhumane
it works very well but its illegal
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Knowledgetruthfreedom
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 13 2005, 03:52 AM)

QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 13 2005, 12:36 AM)
Is that in the stories of Ramas great battles with the Naga and other people? And if so i dont have knowledge on that at the time, i do have a book that has those stoies in them that i will be reading very soon after i finish my other book on ancient civilizations of Africa. If its the translated text of how to make and use a Vimana, and if u have read it then you know it is quite frustrating and hard to follow, due to the things that could not be translated, the "ingredients". Ether way a summary of Shivas trident would be much welcomed, and if it is from the Vymaanika Shaastra it will help me remember! 

Thank you

-Mateo
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you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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Welp, it was worth a try...Oh, jeez! Don't tell me!? Tridents came from Aliens didn't they!? alien.gif I see, Aliens manipulated us into trying to take out the whales!
zandore
For what it is worth: www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
Dando Kast
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 13 2005, 07:52 AM)
QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 13 2005, 12:36 AM)
Is that in the stories of Ramas great battles with the Naga and other people? And if so i dont have knowledge on that at the time, i do have a book that has those stoies in them that i will be reading very soon after i finish my other book on ancient civilizations of Africa. If its the translated text of how to make and use a Vimana, and if u have read it then you know it is quite frustrating and hard to follow, due to the things that could not be translated, the "ingredients". Ether way a summary of Shivas trident would be much welcomed, and if it is from the Vymaanika Shaastra it will help me remember!

Thank you

-Mateo
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you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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He asked for a brief overview of it..not how to make one... that part was about the Vimanas... do you even pay attention Marduk?... and Marduk... I've read through many of your posts and topics... and have noticed a thing or two about them... why don't you ever answer someones question directly?... why always beat around the bush, if your so knowlegable... we could learn a lot from you. My other question is why are you so damn close minded... it's either your way or it's wrong... you have to realize possibilities exist and our history is not accurate... now Marduk, could you please provide a link that backs up what YOU say? thumbsup.gif
LarryOldtimer
Not really an atomic "explosion", but apparently a natural atomic reaction occured lo those many years ago.

http://www.wonuc.org/nucwaste/oklo.htm

THE NATURAL NUCLEAR REACTOR AT OKLO

The "Oklo phenomenon» was discovered in 1972 at Pierrelattes (France) when routine analyses conducted by the Commissariat à l’Energie Atomique (CEA) pointed out an anomalic depletion in U-235, the fissile isotope used in nuclear power plants, in uranium ore from the Oklo mine (Eastern Gabon). After inquiry, the CEA announced the discovery of the first natural nuclear reactor : the anomaly results from fission chain reactions which took place two billion years ago in the Oklo deposit.
theSOURCE
Hi. Just butting in again, heh heh.

It's also been theorized that mini black holes populate the galaxy. Even though black holes are known for their voracious appetite for matter, they are not bottomless pits. If a mini black hole absorbs enough material, it's core would decompress, causing it to explode. The effect would be as though several hydrogen bombs had been detonated at once.

If an ancient mini black hole collided with the earth several millennia ago, this would explain how a nuclear explosion could have happened back then.

However, as marduk pointed out, there really isn't much evidence to suggest that a nuclear explosion happen in ancient times.

And the existence of mini black holes is still theoretical.

Just a penny here and a penny there.
Knowledgetruthfreedom
QUOTE(Black Ops @ Aug 13 2005, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Aug 13 2005, 07:52 AM)
QUOTE(Knowledgetruthfreedom @ Aug 13 2005, 12:36 AM)
Is that in the stories of Ramas great battles with the Naga and other people? And if so i dont have knowledge on that at the time, i do have a book that has those stoies in them that i will be reading very soon after i finish my other book on ancient civilizations of Africa. If its the translated text of how to make and use a Vimana, and if u have read it then you know it is quite frustrating and hard to follow, due to the things that could not be translated, the "ingredients". Ether way a summary of Shivas trident would be much welcomed, and if it is from the Vymaanika Shaastra it will help me remember!

Thank you

-Mateo
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you're asking for instructions on how to make a trident ?
you really need help with that ?
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He asked for a brief overview of it..not how to make one... that part was about the Vimanas... do you even pay attention Marduk?... and Marduk... I've read through many of your posts and topics... and have noticed a thing or two about them... why don't you ever answer someones question directly?... why always beat around the bush, if your so knowlegable... we could learn a lot from you. My other question is why are you so damn close minded... it's either your way or it's wrong... you have to realize possibilities exist and our history is not accurate... now Marduk, could you please provide a link that backs up what YOU say? thumbsup.gif
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lol, Thank you Black ops!! Im glad somone understood what i asked. I even stated that if it was the book on the making of the vimanas its hard to remember and understand becuase it has so much detail with so many words that are the ingredients that have no meaning to anyone becuase we have know idea what those words mean! lol, but anyway, if i cant find infomation here i can always look else where, there are alot of people that are knowledgeble that I can get just as much information as from Marduk, which i have thus far to get, but im sure I will evetually, Still it is entertaining, and im sure ill learn somthing no matter the subject! original.gif

-Mateo

Keep the info comming! thumbsup.gif
Azalin
Im just kinda coming into this conversation right now, sorry to bud in. Was wondering if this information can help you at all. I read quite a bit on this incident in the past, and thought you might want some information towards it.

http://www.altereddimensions.net/earth/Tunguska.htm
isis-999
I may be wrong but that was in Russia and it was a meteorite that did all the damage you see in the link you gave. thumbsup.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Aug 14 2005, 02:01 AM)
I may be wrong but that was in Russia and it was a meteorite that did all the damage you see in the link you gave. thumbsup.gif
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Well I gather they believe it's a meteorite because Aliens don't exist, at least... not scientifically, so they can't really say, " an alien space craft must of did it", the only other logical explanation was a meteorite.
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