I know most of you have heard of the Bermuda Triangle Mystery and Myth. UM just posted a front page article about it. I was thinking about it and did some research on it, it's kind of funny but many people never thought of this....

A lot of the Tropical Storms and Hurricanes start around the Bermuda Triangle, well not exactly that point of origin but pretty damn close. Isn't that a theory to think about? If anyone has heard of H.A.R.P. it was an experiment by the government to control our weather. Wouldn't it be something if it was related to the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle? Perhaps the experiment altered things to open a time hole, other words known as a worm hole.

What do you guys think?

It's possible if they got really far with Einsteins time travel theories... The government use to work with him secretly and I wouldn't doubt if secretly our government did something like this.

Matt

I thought the strom's started around AFRICA, that is what they always say, and i doubt the government and Einstein got very far in the time travel business.

The Bermuda Triangle Mystery date back to the time of Columbus. Apparantly he saw a meteorite slam right where the Bermuda Triangle is. It's possible, and is a theory that the magnetism from the Meteorite drag ships and airplanes into the water, also why compasses cannot navigate correctly within this field.

Besides that, heavy tankers were vanishing during WW 1, before Einsteins, and H.A.R.P's time.

Columbus saw a meteorite
thats strange cos he never mentioned it to a living soul
try reading the earlier posts before you splurge ok
there is nothing mysterious about the bermuda triangle
its one of the busiest sea lanes in the world and disappearences are less than statistical average.

I think the 'disappearances' can be credited to the very, very bad conditions in the Bermuda Triangle. Also, people who want to believe this stuff often beef up the stories.

That's not very nice Marduk, I see your always quick to jump to answers and conclusions.

Have you ever read " Columbus and the World Around him " , "Discovering the new World : The Voyages of Christopher Columbus" or EVEN " First Voyage to America ".

It was noted that Christopher Columbus wrote of seeing " A great flame of fire " or " A large ball of fire " that slammed into the ocean, which scientists beleive firmly today, was a meteorite.

So please, Marduk, read, or research, before de-bunking posts.

It is noted that he wrote
by whom ?
cos columbus said no such thing

The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus." Christopher Columbus and Pedro Gutierrez while on the deck of the Santa Maira, observed, "a light glimmering at a great distance." It vanished and reappeared several times during the night, moving up and down, "in sudden and passing gleams." It was sighted 4 hours before land was sighted, and taken by Columbus as a sign they would soon come to land.

so he saw a A great flame of fire or A large ball of fire that slammed into the Ocean did he
and you think i should do more research
i'll wait until theres an actual need to thanks
i seem to be doing ok so far, but thats because i don't frequent U.F.O. sites I guess
And if you like I can give you the number for the nassau taxi company.
theyre actually in the bermuda triangle and funnily enough they have never lost a vehicle
they found five planes once but thats another story
Let me know when you get up early in the AM
i'll be there already

Well i do not know what CC seen, But i do know Marduk and i beat your going to find out he is right.

Discovering the new World : The Voyages of Christopher Columbus - "Strange lights were seen on the distant horizon and in the sky. The compasses cannot be read , it was at this time, that the crew and me witnessed a great flame of fire crash into the ocean "

Take it as you will, I've read 3 different versions of it.

EDIT : Thought I would just add this as well.

History Of The Bermuda Triangle
The first documented voyage in the Bermuda Triangle was that of Christopher Columbus. His journals have helped to piece together his account of his voyages in that area. The first strange occurrence related to sightings of seaweed and birds, indicating that they were close to land. This turned into disappointment however, when even days later, they had still not reached land. Soon afterwards, Columbus reported that his Compass had been acting strangely, and that his crew had witnessed "dancing lights" on the horizon. He also wrote about seeing a large ball of light falling from the sky.

This is from the write up on the Bermuda Triangle on the UM site itself.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Str...G=Google+Search
you're not even a good liar
you've read three different versions of a great fire falling into the sea
link to just one from a reputable site
or shut up

Un-like you marduk, who lives off of Google websites, I READ these from the books I posted in my original post. Now please, read a book, not a website anyone can buy a name to and post there own thoughts. Im getting tired of fighting with google searchers.

Oh so it appears in some books that you own but nowhere on the www.
name them and i'll go check
you're getting tired of being told you dont know what youre talking about more likely
If you're going to make a wild claim to try to stun members with your vast knowledge
make sure the members arent a lot smarter than you are first

You have a very good point there Marduk, Why even go on with this he does not know much about the Bermuda Triangle.. he said most stroms start there, not so they start in Africa, It's the central point for hurricanes not the BT as he stated.. and i should know we get almost every time one hit's the east coast.


Azalin, Marduk does not need to read a book, he has forgot more about history then most will ever know..

It's no mystery. Ancient Atlantis crystals are disturping the waters and creating magnetic fields that confuse ship's compasses. Are you serious, you ask? Damn striaght I am!

*shrugs shoulders*

History has forgotten more about columbus than Azalin will ever know

Well, getting back to his original posted surmise, hurricanes are formed when storms coming off the African Continent travel across the Atlantic and grow bigger and stronger while picking up moisture and inceasing their cyclonic flows. They do travel over the Bermuda triangle but are not affected by the anomalies there. For an empiric overview you might try searching the weather channel.

The weather channel ??
is it out in paperback

Naaa.. it's on channel 61, I'll show you some day!..So where did the BT guy run off too.

This subject has been discussed several times in depth and frankly I recommend anyone interested in the B.T. to do some hunting for these threads. Unless they've been deleted after 30 days?

The B.T. is an unnatural phenomonom that has puzzled scholars and scientists for centuries. Theories range from several magnetic fields intermixing creating chaos for ships to ancient Atlantis crystals submerged that have unusual properties. Though not all ships suffer disaster. More than 70% survive to recount their experiences.

I've flown through it twice and nothing happened.

Heck, I worked there on an ocean-going tug for two years, as a supply/rescue vessel, and I didn't see anything unusual.

You're sure you didn't disappear ?
you didn't happen to see columbus did ya
oops i forgot Columbus landed in hispaniola which isn't in the triangle
but Zeus already knows that cos hes got three books on the subject
personally i have about 500 but hey thats just me
dumb dumb
hehe

Well, sure, if you're going to rely on research and stuff like that...

I can't research you're disappearance aquatuus
unless its in a book somewhere
i checked on the net and theres no sign of an account of that

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=aquatuus+vanished
unless you're real name is "aquatics"

Heck I can't prove I didn't disappear, and I was there!

Double negative huh
did ya think i'd miss that
so what youre saying is that you can prove you vanished
lets hear it then ?

This web site should be changed to (Ask Marduk)

maybe it should be changed to BEAT marduk
nah
that'd be too HARD
hehe

This ones for you Isis

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Actually, I'm scared to ask . . .

Marduk my warrior hero...

Warrior Hero???

I saw a special on Discovery or History channel that claimed that the loss of planes and boats were due to a 'burp' in the ocean floor. Something about the sea floor in that area being volcanically active. The release caused the boyancy in the boats to become unstable, which sink...also the gases caused failure in the air intake of the older combustible plane engines... They also came up with a theory on why it messed with the guidance systems...I just can't remember...
I'll try to find a link...

I seen that too JayRob..It was really good, I don't know if they are right but it made more since then the devil is doing it!

Agreed.
I'm the first to see paranormal as a possibility...but this documentary made a lot of sense. The even did a to scale model of how it could happen...was very cool.

Well, I'm not there now, am I?

There are no more methane hydrate deposites in the Bermuda Triangle region than there are in any other part of the ocea, nor is it more volcanically active. The only place where you have to worry about methane is around oil fields, where they have been known to swallow entire platforms at a stretch.

Guys, trying to come up with explanations for what happens in the Bermuda Triangle is, well, kid off pointless...

The thing of it is that...nothing strange happens there to begin with. All these methane theories, and ufos, and time vortexes, and whatnot...they are all explanations for problems that never occured.

You're always 100% Aquatus you know that
The only mystery of the bermuda triangle is just how Charles Berlitz got away with it.

After I looked at his sonar evidence of a pyramid under the Bermuda Triangle, I completely lost any respect I might have had for the guy.

I didn't have any for the guy in the first place

Here I am, gone for a few days...and what do I find? Marduk arguing with some guy who thinks there are pyramids and meteorites in the Bermuda Triangle.

some things never change.

You should have read the other page's, They where even better... I fall to see what the mystery of the BT really is. No more ships have been lost there then any where else.

yeah
but i really wish they would

I think Berlitz and others get away with it because there are enough people who really want to believe, no matter what. Look how many years the weekly world news has lasted, and any sane person knows it's all fiction, yet people buy it or it wouldn't be in print.

First off... I don't like you very much Marduk, keep your comments to yourself about others. Your only showing how imature and disrespectful you can be. My post was merely just my opinion based on theories. Theories is just a word used to combine of people's thoughts and skepticism on what can't be explained.

Don't go around de-bunking people's posts without getting true facts first. I think you are rude and offensive. I happen to be a writer on UM and you need to chill out man. Everyone on here is allowed to have their own opinions and skepticism and theories. That is why UM is here. The UM site does not revolve around Murduk and you only. The person who read the passage about Christopher Columbus said they read books on what was written. Obviously the person can't prove it because it's in a book. It's very easy to prove a written passage on a site because you can save the link.

I'm not throwing things out of proportion, just telling you to keep your mouth where it belongs and that's to yourself if you have nothing nice to say to people besides debunking them or telling people they are not smart. I wouldn't be a writer on UM if I wasn't smart.

I think this topic should close before Marduk continues flapping his lips...

Nuff said...

Thanks Damien, it's good to know UM has great writers / employee's. I stopped posting in this thread because I was tired of talking to a brick wall. I see Marduk has made many enemies in this forum, I link this to his witty sarcasm and his all knowing google engine.

Oh please
unsupported facts are baloney
you don't like me and don't like my answers then don't talk crap
so what if i used google, every other poster here has access to it
they don't have access to these three non exsitent books the guy was talking about and he hasn't answered the question as to their names and authors
i don't know what you write for UM but i bet its full of incosnistencies like your last post was
e.g.
you said don't go debunking without true facts
if the words from the mouth of columbus himself arent acceptable for you may i suggestyou take your head out of your ass and smel waht you are shovelling
and i think you'll find that i have a lot more friends here than enemies
and teh only enemies are guys like you who don't know what they are talking about
talk to the hand

Columbus & the World Around Him
by Milton Meltzer (Hardcover - December 1991)

Discovering the New World: The Voyages of Christopher Columbus (Great Explorers)
by Andrew Langley, Paul Crompton (Illustrator)

First Voyage to America : From the Log of the "Santa Maria" -- by Christopher Columbus.


Be my guest Marduk, go read them.

a light glimmering at a great distance." It vanished and reappeared several times
"during the night, moving up and down, "in sudden and passing gleams."
was what columbus said. I can link to several reputable sites that say that as a statement of fact .
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a+light+g...ang_en&filter=0



and you expect me to believe that you typed in the names of those books from the cover in front of you.
in that case why did you include -- in "Maria" -- by Christopher "
and
a ":" in New World: The Voyages
and your use of brackets in "Meltzer (Hardcover - December 1991)" and everywhere else
up til now from looking at your posts you don't even know what grammar is
and now i'm expected to believe you included it when you typed out those three titles

quite clearly its a cut and paste job from a book sale website
Which means dear Azalin that you are a very very poor liar as i said before
so i suggest what you do now is actually go and buy a book yourself and read it
that way in future maybe you won't be wasting everyones time

Of course the biggest clue lies in the fact that it took you over 24 hours to come up with that.
someone who was telling the truth would have posted the titles when they were asked

very very bad when a newbie gets caught out lying in his first few posts
now everyone knows what you're really like
shameful

Marduk, you are a fool. Im not going to dig my books out and type in the authors name when I KNOW the name of the book and I can just "search" for it, like you always do, and copy and paste.

Face it Marduk, you have never read those books, and you are completely clueless to there content, I suggest you go out, BUY them, READ them, and then come back and post. Until you have done that, please, do not post on this thread.

And Im sorry if it took me awhile to post those books, I don't sit in front of my computer all day, because I do have a life outside of this forum.

oh so it was quicker to type the names into a search engine and then copy and paste than it was to just type them out at U.M
your lies get worse as you get deeper in you know that
and everyone can see it
if i was you i'd think very carefully before you lie about anything else because I will be watching

you're right though i haven't read those books
but then
neither have you

Marduk is not a fool. It isn't nice to call people names. (read the forum rules)

The Discovery Channel had a very interesting take on The Bermuda Triangle last night.
Beneath the surface of the ground under the ocean in that area are huge holes that from time to time release Methane. These huge bubbles are enough to sink ships and as proven by some Scientists by using engines with precise amounts of Methane added into the supply, it only takes 1 percent Methane in the atmosphere to completely stall an engine. If you haven't seen it and you are truly interested...it is quite enlightening.

I know about the theory you're talking about
but (there's always one isn't there)
It doesn't account for two things
1. Engines with sealed units
2. The fact that the disappearance of vessels in the area is less than that statistically of other busy sea lanes. This is a very important point when discussing vanishing ships and aircraft that don't actually vanish


If you look into it you'll soon discover that the only mystery of the bermuda triangle is why its still a mystery.
The loss of all the planes that originally kicked off this mystery has long been solved.
And every day that goes buy the coast guard notice that there have been no mysterious disappearences at all.
However people get rich from speculating about it. Thats the motivation