i m new here and i just wanted to know what u think about Crystal sculls....
p.s. would like to hear Murdok opinion

Here is some infor I found. They are beautiful, wouldn't mind having one.

Crystal skulls are all over the place, but no one ever seems to have actually dug one up. Can you say "FAKES".

I believe some of the skulls are truly ancient, like the Mitchell-Hedges skull and the fact that there are no tool mark on it also makes me think there is something strange about this one.

The Michell-Hedges skull is a fake. It was carved in Germany, by the same guy who carved a few other of the more famous ones. Michel-Hedges purchased it a Lloyds of London auction for 400 pounds. The original sales receipt and auction slip are in the records.

These have always fascinated me. Some say these are the ancient crystals of the Ancients Atlanteans, but some are too recent for 10,500 BCE. Others say they are storage capsules for information.

Still doesn't explain the complete lack of tool marks on it though, if it was carved with tools either manually or using a machine, then the surface would be covered with lines from the cutting edges, but when the Hewlett Pachard Laboratories did tests on it in the 70's they found none.

Actually, Hewlett-Packard has no records of having tested the skull, despite the claims that are made by Michelle-Hedges. It was tested more recently at a university, and tool marks were found, circular grooves indicating that the tool used was most likely a buffing wheel.

Knowing that Michelle-Hedges lied about the origins of the skull casts all his claims about the skull into question. Be cautious when accepting anything he says in regards to it.

i've seen photo's of the tests in progress in a book on the subject, so they definitely happened!

Howling Mad's reputation preceeds him!

Whilst I wouldn't exclude the possibility of some crude ones having been made in the past for ritualistic reasons, I believe most are modern and none have any spiritual powers whatsoever. Nice ornaments though. If you're into that sort of thing.

I have to agree with Essan on this, I really don't believe all the hype behind these skulls at all, What is it something about after the 13 skull is found the world will come to a end. Please it's just more end of the world crap, I don't think there's much to worry about.

I've no doubt you've seen photos. But Hewellet-Packard still doesn't have any record of them.

The Smithsonian Institute did test them, and did find the circular grooves on them. And the evidence from Lloyds of London still exist (actually, it could be Southby's as well, I would have to check my notes).

The Smithsonian tested them recently and it did find that three of the skulls it tested were modern, but when it came to the Mitchell-Hedges skull it wouldn't release the results because they found something.

i wonder what they go for on ebay ?

So what about the fact there are suppose to be something like 13 skulls in all, And if they did find something, what could it be besides the true age of the one skull.

Psssssssssssst: THEY ARE FAKES.

Somebody please post a link showing how good science had dated any of these to ancient times.

Honestly, I am amazed that anyone would think the Michell-Hedges skull was authentic to begin with. The skulls of the Mayan civilization were very stylistic, almost masklike in appearance, and all one solid piece. The Michell-Hedges skull was realistic, with a moveable jaw. During the dig when he supposedly found this amazing archeological artifact in the 1920's, he apparently didn't say a word to absolutely anyone in the party. The first time we hear about the skull is more than two decades later, in 1943, which is right after the crystal skull was sold at Southby's (it was Southby's, not Lloyds).

Michell-hedges also made a few claims to have found tribes and civilizations that had been foun earlier by other explorers as well, so his reputation wasn't exactly sterling.

Your so right about this,I really don't understand why people just believe everything they read!

I don't mean to be anal, but does it bother anyone else that the title of this thread is crystal "sculls"?

Yeah, I went in thinking this was a rowing thread, but oh well...

I must say i did not notice untill you pointed it out, That is so funny i feel kinda dumb now. Thanks DJ..LOL...

Lol, has anyone seen that old movie which revolves around this Crystal Skull that magically transported this mans spiritual Identity into his sons and vise-versa ? the boy is the actor that was in the T.V Series 'The Wonder Years' playing Kevin.. has anyone seen the movie? it was made in the 80's..

There are 12 crystal skulls so far. There is said to be 13.

1.Amethyst skull
2.Paris skull
3.Aztec skull
4.ET skull
5.Mayan skull
6.Texas skull
7.Rainbow skull
8.Rose Quartz skull
9.Jesuit skull
10.Sha-Na-Ra-skull
11.Agato chip skull
12.Mitchell Hedges skull???


OOOO no. One! more to go if mitchells is real.I have never herd of the dooms day thing about them Isis.

Any way a lot of people have said they move by them selfs and also carry healing powers.

I have never heard of the dooms day thing about them Isis. And yes, when the 13 skulls are brought together, it is said, it gives the person in possession of the skulls a Supreme Power. It is also said that all skulls are supposed to be made from different substances.. 1 amythyst, 1 crystal, and etc. Many skulls that are circulating are indeed fakes. But hey, with ebay exploding with crazy things on it, like it has, I could see why it would. There is one skull in Houston Tx, that people are allowed to go examine with appointments. People that go there and see the skull, and get to handle it, say that they can feel a strange energy circulating in them. However, whenever I see any piece of art of the same calibur, I get strange feelings too, So I would pass off the feelings people get as astonishment in the works of art in front of them. For instance I had a chance to see the Dead Sea Scrolls in Houston, and I got the same feeling that people describe when seeing the skulls.
As far as the skulls moving on their own, I have never heard anything along those lines, and I have had the opportunity to read into these quite a bit. However, I am never completly right about anything, so hell, who knows =0p.
As far as fake, I am sure, there are many many many fakes floating around. However, I do believe that there are actual authentic skulls, but I seriously doubt that all 12 that are claimed to be authentic at the moment, are really authentic. Also as far as 13 being brought together to give a supreme power, uhh I doubt that also. When I think about that, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom comes to mind. So I think there is ALOT we could learn from these skulls, however, there are too many fakes to consider 1 single test, holding credibility on all the other skulls.

Heres a little summary on the main stream idea of what sopposidly the skull is and what happend.

I copyed past this from another group I wrote it in...lol, i didnt want to rewrite it.



The skull crystal is a crystal in the form of a life sized skull, found in 1927 by Mitchell-Hedges adopted daughter, on her seventeenth birthday by a collapsed altar and later the jaw bone, in the anciet Mayan city of Lubaantun, known in english as "place of fallen stones" this is not the real name of the city, well at least not the name givin by its builders, becuase we dont know any orginal names of them. The intresting thing though, about Lubaantun is the only carvings of any kind are in the ball court. they are of players playing the known Mayan ball game. Other diffences between this city and other mayan cities is the persion cut stone, like those found in the Lixus a Phoenician city in Morroco and the Incan cities in South America. Also there are no palaces or temples standing on the Pyramindral structures. There are also megalithic strucutres at the base of these pyramids. Lubaantun generally dated around 730 to 890 A.D. making it a fairly late city in the Mayan Empire. There are some that think opposite becuase of the lack of gliphs and statues, thinking that the city may be one of the first Mayan cities instead of one of the last, putting the cities date around 2000 B.C. Another theroy is that its not a Mayan City at all, due to its lack of classical Mayan building. This is usally not taken seriouly due to the fact that there are many Mayan cities that are just a few miles nearby. But never the less the city is uniqe compared to all other Mayan cities.

The Crystal skull can not be dated with convetional means, due to the fact that is it made out of crystal. Hiwlett-Packard laboratoris studied the skull and estimated that in order to complete such a shape it would have required 300 years by a series of extreamly gifted artisans. Not to mention that the crystal is of very good quality, making its hardness slightly below dimonds. When the jaw was found and attached to the skull the cranium rocked on the jaw bone base, making the skull look as if it was talking. The thought is, is that the ancient Maya may have had wire or strings attached to the skull and almost used it as a puppet during ceromonys to make it seems as if the skull was alive.

According to Frank Dorland, a crystalographer for Hiwlett-Packard who studied the skull for years, says the skulls eyes would sometimes flicker and by other witnesses it would sometimes make odd noises, smells, and light effects. It is said when photos were taken of the skull odd lights can be seen around or in the skull. There are those that belive you can see into the future and the past when looking into the skull and that is what the odd lights, smells and noises come from. The Crystal is said to be the embodiment of pure evil, and that Mayan priests were able to willed death with help of the skull, the legend also states that the skull is 3,600 years old. There are said to be those that have laughed at the idea that the skull possesed such power have died, but yet has faild to kill the owner who has had it for years.

The odd thing about the skull is its sopposed founders, and that was Hedges adopted daughter on her seventeenth birthday, but yet Hedges remarked that "How it came into possession i have reason for not revealing." Which makes one wonder if perhaps he had it before 1927, and maybe even not from cental america at all. A thought is, is that he placed it there for his daughter to find on her birthday, others say he found it through secret societies or that the knights templar brought it there. There are also some views that aliens brought the skull crystal, 13 to be exact.

Whatever the skull crytal was or where ever it came from and what its uses were, still remains a great mystrey, even its location, in an odd city like no other. Some say the skull is 17,000 years old, but dating such a rock is very diffcult. There are other similar crystals that been found around the world, but the mayan one is the best made by far. And who knows how Hedges found it, if indeed he had recived it at and earlyer date. Whatever the case it is still a mystrey that anyone can make there own judgement on, and who knows, maybe yours will be right. Keep thinking!

-Mateo

In the meantime, a bill of sale of one crystal skull to Michelle-Hedges for the sum of 400 pounds from Southbys of London made a little less than a month prior to the debut of the "Skull Of Doom" remains.

Theres like a billon millon fakes so 12 being real doesn't seem unreasonable.

well i heard they only found 3 ...2 are kept by some people and 1 is in the museum....i watched it on tv before few weeks so i cant remember everything exactly

Here's a link I found: crystal skull

mardoks opinion
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...topic=38062&hl=

When the 13th skull was found in Belize, it was taken to the pyramid of the sun where some extraordinary phenomenon were aleged to have been witnessed by several witnesses:
A UFO appeared and hovered over the pyramid for over an hour.
The eyes of the skull were said to have started glowing red.
Elvis appeared and sang "I'm All Shook Up".

Here's a photo:

There is only one way to protect yourself if all 13 crystal skulls are ever brought together:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Run and hid behind DJ, fast!

can be constructed by anyone with at least the dexterity of a chimp (maybe bonobo).
damn thats me out of the running then
I can never seem to throw my waste products out through the bars with any precision

Just keep practicing.....

Hello! If you googled an arthur c. clarke quote on the crytal skulls i'm sure that you would come up with the most interesting ponderings from his great old tv show "arthur c. clarkes mysterious universe".

ah yes i remember it well
"This "fearsome" skull is "the weirdest gem in the world" and "Even if it is relatively modern, as a work of art it is as unforgettable as it is terrible in its beauty."
almost as good as
"is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we can imagine." ...
obviously the guy has a limited imagination then
.........right ?

I always preferred Patrick Moore anyway
watch this and tell me i'm wrong
http://www2.b3ta.com/patrickmoore/patrick.swf

Hahaha! That's funny. I love the alien disco.

Then here's a guy you will really love..The owner of the Skulls.

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Then here's a guy you will really love..The owner of the Skulls.


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We know how to do it.
Gimme that night fever, night fever.
We know how to show it"

Alien disco...lol...

OK i have a few questions about the 13 Crystal Skulls.....

1. What do we know for FACT??
2. The time (down to the hour), date and location of the few Skulls that have been found and are known to be true.
3. Current location of the found Skulls
4. And well any info you may have or know about them and is fact.....

my goal is to find them .... but i need help as everyone dose ...so if you know anything about them that my be useful Please contact me by e-mail...in turn i will keep you up to date as to my findings...thanks and take care

E-MAIL... CrystalSkulls13@hotmail.com



Snake Plisken..........

Well... reading the vast internet... found this insanely indepth report on the Crytal Skulls and I remembered this thread.

Link: The Mysterious Crystal Skulls

Note: There are other links to other Crystal Skull sites on there.

I'm buying one on e-bay.

Buy two DJ.. I'll send you a paypal..LOL..I have seen the skulls on e-bay..it's just more proof you can make a copy of anything..

What? You can buy these little suckers in mini? Cooooooooooooool! Another paper weight to add to my collection.

Great works of art are exactly that, whether they were created in 500 BC or 1895 AD or just last week.

I've read that early in his career the sculptor Michaelangelo tried to push his own masterpiece creations as ancient Greek statues that he'd dug up. Even so, who today would call them "fakes"?

My husband bought one about a year and a half ago at an apothacary shop. It fits in the palm of your hand, but it gives off a vibration. And I can't stand when it is sitting on the headboard. My husband will put it away, but it always seems to find itself back out in the open . It isn't evil, I don't think, but It is peculiar.

The Mitchell-Hedges skull is first and foremost a world-class great work of art.



When the Mitchell-Hedges family came upon hard times in the early 1930s during the depths of the Slump (what we Americans call the Great Depression), Mr. Mitchell-Hedges raised funds by selling the Skull. It actually belonged to his daughter, but he sold it with her permission.

A decade later the Skull came up for auction at Sotheby's auction house [Lloyds o London is an insurance firm, NOT an auction house], Mr. Mitchell-Hedges bought the Skull back for his daughter....outbidding the British Museum!

MANY Brits did exactly this type of thing, re-purchasing during the relative prosperity of World War Two items they'd been forced to part with during the Slump.

The sales slip proves nothing, since Mitchell-Hedges and his daughter never denied the circumstances of the re-purchase!