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Wow. Thats negative. Are they criticizing crazy statements? That maybe you believe.
I dont mind constructive critcism. but it usualy contains 1-2 liners that are just pain flames. Instead of arguing against the point inteligently, they just bash the idea.
Don't take this the wrong way, but some of the things spouted on this forum are so far fetched what do you expect. This is not toward you. But you can't argue with zealot.
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"First-person shooter" video games like Halo and Battlefield 2 are government-created combat simulators designed to accustom children to combat.
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Umm... I hate to debunk, but....
[1] I'm afraid this is an old, "real" (as in, out in the wild) conspiracy theory.
[2] It's also fact. Actually, the Navy now has an online game that's free. You just have to create a profile with your personal information, so the navy can see how good you do, etc. Other games like "Army of One" are based on training games and are essentially recruitment propoganda.
(Actually, someone where I work does mods for 1st person shooters, and hosts the equivalent of "lan parties", for training at McDill AFB here in Tampa.)
So... I'm afraid your made-up cospiracy theory has been de-bunked by virtue of it being proven fact.....
Sweet Flying Spagghetti Monster, it sounds weird saying that.
Mike
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Aug 28 2005, 02:17 PM)
Don't take this the wrong way, but some of the things spouted on this forum are so far fetched what do you expect. This is not toward you. But you can't argue with zealot.
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This might be a surprise to you but there are events and knowledge as well as information that is still secret, and is not allowed to be know to the general masses. That's where we come in. We are discussing classified and suppressed information, that the general public is not taught. It doesn't mean it's not true, but it will seem to be false to someone who doesn't know about suppressed information. It's not that hard to keep a secret. Especially when we have people who demonize anyone who strays from the controlled paradigm.
Most people are to lazy to do follow up research on somthing they think is to out of this world. They will just automatically dismiss it becuase it doesn't fit into their current world view, or way of thinking.
Don't get me wrong not everything discussed here is 100%, but there is more truth to it that you want to realize.
Sorry. If you think internet sources are reliable, I would say your wrong. Many of these sources on the internet are pushing their own agendas and beliefs and to further this they will say whatever is necessary, no matter true or not.
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This is my last post concerning the steel circle. I'm not here to make enimies
It's become obvious the steel circle is untouchable, and taboo, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
It's become obvious the steel circle is untouchable, and taboo, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
I realy didnt want to say anything but since the subject was brought up.... I have noticed that the steel circle members to be very mainstream, critisizing, usualy with alot of ignorance, ideas that aren't. But i will leave it at that.
Who knows, maybe it is a real conspiracy.
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Ignorance and critical? the Steel Circle members are subject to the same rules and regs on UM as any other member, we get slapped around by the Mods just like any other member if we step out of line.
Back on topic.
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Sorry. If you think internet sources are reliable, I would say your wrong. Many of these sources on the internet are pushing their own agendas and beliefs and to further this they will say whatever is necessary, no matter true or not.
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And you don't think mainstream media have an agenda. It's a lot harder to see, but the agenda being pushed is the establishments agenda.
I agree some internet sites do, as you suggest, but to assume that just because it's on the internet, it must not be true, is very foolish and irresponsible.
The internet is a great source of info that is documented and factual that they will not tell you on the news.
Ask yourself, why if children, or anyone, has disappeared or been kidnapped everyday throughout history, why is the news especially Fox news focusing on missing persons. Isn't there anything else more news worthy, that may be overlooked to spend time on missing people. Every week they have a new story.
This is my conspiracy just to stay on topic: Five years ago, when I first learned of the plan to put the microchip in every human being, I wondered how they would get the population to justify such a loss of personal security. I thought the government would start kidnapping children so as to start an epidemic of missing children to get people thinking about tracking their children so as to prevent these kidnappings, or at least get the child back. I was slightly wrong, all they did was have the news which they control start focusing on missing people.
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It's become obvious the steel circle is untouchable, and taboo, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
Talk about the Steel Circle all you want, just keep it civil.
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The conspiracy I was refering to was about your post when you closed the steel circle's thread. It seemed you were suggesting that they wanted to control what was being said on the forum, and that the mods were in cahoots:
That's not what I was suggesting at all, the Steel Circle members wanted moderation of their own thread by Steel Circle moderators, which was not possible here because moderator privilidges cannot be assigned to someone for only one topic.
Because they couldn't do this, the thread was being used by Steel Circle members to criticise the Steel Circle, which was counter productive for them and non-beneficial to our forum either, hence it was closed down.
There really is no conspiracy there, I wish you'd stop telling people that there is because it's becoming very tiresome.
I find it incredible to think that one day the Steel Circle will be mentioned in conpiracies alongside, JFK, Princess Di and the Roswell cover up... 
SaRuMaN
Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
SS
Don't forget the Reptillian Aliens that control the Government... and Playing cards that predicted 9/11...
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SaRuMaN
Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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Scooby... first lesson of a conspiracy theorist... never admit your wrong, just add more dribble, it works for David Icke
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SaRuMaN
Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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Scooby... first lesson of a conspiracy theorist... never admit your wrong, just add more dribble, it works for David Icke Thankyou for clearing that up. I admit I was wrong. I think that conspiracy is just as good as the rest on this thread, not to much evidence to back it up. I admit, I am more paranoid than most, but only because I've seen to much. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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Conspriacy theorist is a derogatory assumption. It is used to demonize, because smart people are not supposed to believe in silly conspiracies, after all they are just conspiracies right?
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The favourite buzzword of 'Name Calling', a word that has a slide attached to it (through media propaganda) where you are conditioned to believe that 'there-are-no-conspiracies', and that the person labelled such is a mentally ill--a 'nut', 'paranoid', 'kook'.
"Misinformation detours are called "slides" by the CIA, to prevent people from looking and thinking in the right directions."--Fritz Springmeier The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls
"Whenever I hear the words "conspiracy theory" it usually means someone is getting too close to the truth."----- former CIA employee, Michael Hasty
"The destruction of the American mind and American institutions is now so far advanced that the demonic cabal has been able to establish a police state without the people rising up against them. The cabal has taken great pains to avoid publicity and recognition, to the point that most people are blind to its existence. It requires advanced powers of discernment to even see its presence, so hidden has been its subversive activity. Anyone who speaks of a cabal is immediately dismissed as a paranoid conspiracy theorist, lumped with extremists of all stripes, and made persona non grata in any professional field." The Demonic Cabal by Dr. Norman D. Livergood
"A good conspiracy is an unprovable one. If you can prove it, somebody has screwed up."----Mel Gibson character in Conspiracy Theory'
"Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues."--H. Michael Sweeney
A Jewish acquaintance once criticized me for my views, adding "there are no conspiracies." "May I quote you on that?," I asked. He could not understand my purpose in wanting to do so, so I told him: "because it’s not often one hears Jewish people denying the Nazi holocaust the way you just did." After advising him that the "Nazi holocaust" requires a conspiracy of German government officials, he was prepared to modify his statement to allow for the kinds of conspiracies that he believed in.
One of my colleagues, who teaches antitrust law, attacked me for defending even the idea of "conspiracies," until I asked him if he intended to reduce his course from three units to one. "Since so much of antitrust law consists of ‘conspiracies’ to restrain trade, or fix prices, or divide up markets, or monopolize an industry, or engage in such more subtle ‘conspiracies’ as ‘conscious parallelism,’ I assume that, since you do not believe in conspiracies, you will take the lead in condemning such specious theories." ---Will the Real Paranoids Please Raise Their Hands? by Butler Shaffer
"The New York Times is for us what Pravda was for the Soviets....America is a country full of conspiracy, and yet when you mention the word on television the interviewer giggles, so that people will think only nuts who believe in abduction by aliens believe in conspiracies. But don't they know they are being had? They are being lied to every day."--Gore Vidal (Observer magazine 12 Aug 2001)
"Apparently, 'conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth."— Gore Vidal, from "The Enemy Within", 27 Oct 2002
Because there is so much disinformation out about the people who run this country, it must sometimes seem rather bizarre that people like me come along and say there is a satanic conspiracy of great magnitude. If Americans were as a whole critical thinkers and would challenge the propaganda that the controlled media gives them, then the false fronts and false public images of their leaders might not get written up so easily as history. There are not many critical thinkers in this nation. There are a great many intelligent people, but not a great many critical thinkers. A conspiracy of great magnitude has had this nation in its grips since the nation was founded, and the controlled press has managed to prevent the general population from finding this conspiracy out. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 6. Kennedy
"Definition---Conspiracy Theory: any conclusion in the context of any topic that 60 Minutes doesn't want mentioned, discussed, or researched."--J Orlin Grabbe http://www.aci.net/kalliste/60attack.htm
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"Misinformation detours are called "slides" by the CIA, to prevent people from looking and thinking in the right directions."--Fritz Springmeier The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls
"Whenever I hear the words "conspiracy theory" it usually means someone is getting too close to the truth."----- former CIA employee, Michael Hasty
"The destruction of the American mind and American institutions is now so far advanced that the demonic cabal has been able to establish a police state without the people rising up against them. The cabal has taken great pains to avoid publicity and recognition, to the point that most people are blind to its existence. It requires advanced powers of discernment to even see its presence, so hidden has been its subversive activity. Anyone who speaks of a cabal is immediately dismissed as a paranoid conspiracy theorist, lumped with extremists of all stripes, and made persona non grata in any professional field." The Demonic Cabal by Dr. Norman D. Livergood
"A good conspiracy is an unprovable one. If you can prove it, somebody has screwed up."----Mel Gibson character in Conspiracy Theory'
"Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues."--H. Michael Sweeney
A Jewish acquaintance once criticized me for my views, adding "there are no conspiracies." "May I quote you on that?," I asked. He could not understand my purpose in wanting to do so, so I told him: "because it’s not often one hears Jewish people denying the Nazi holocaust the way you just did." After advising him that the "Nazi holocaust" requires a conspiracy of German government officials, he was prepared to modify his statement to allow for the kinds of conspiracies that he believed in.
One of my colleagues, who teaches antitrust law, attacked me for defending even the idea of "conspiracies," until I asked him if he intended to reduce his course from three units to one. "Since so much of antitrust law consists of ‘conspiracies’ to restrain trade, or fix prices, or divide up markets, or monopolize an industry, or engage in such more subtle ‘conspiracies’ as ‘conscious parallelism,’ I assume that, since you do not believe in conspiracies, you will take the lead in condemning such specious theories." ---Will the Real Paranoids Please Raise Their Hands? by Butler Shaffer
"The New York Times is for us what Pravda was for the Soviets....America is a country full of conspiracy, and yet when you mention the word on television the interviewer giggles, so that people will think only nuts who believe in abduction by aliens believe in conspiracies. But don't they know they are being had? They are being lied to every day."--Gore Vidal (Observer magazine 12 Aug 2001)
"Apparently, 'conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth."— Gore Vidal, from "The Enemy Within", 27 Oct 2002
Because there is so much disinformation out about the people who run this country, it must sometimes seem rather bizarre that people like me come along and say there is a satanic conspiracy of great magnitude. If Americans were as a whole critical thinkers and would challenge the propaganda that the controlled media gives them, then the false fronts and false public images of their leaders might not get written up so easily as history. There are not many critical thinkers in this nation. There are a great many intelligent people, but not a great many critical thinkers. A conspiracy of great magnitude has had this nation in its grips since the nation was founded, and the controlled press has managed to prevent the general population from finding this conspiracy out. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 6. Kennedy
"Definition---Conspiracy Theory: any conclusion in the context of any topic that 60 Minutes doesn't want mentioned, discussed, or researched."--J Orlin Grabbe http://www.aci.net/kalliste/60attack.htm
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A truth revealer of suppressed information? If you know the truth why not post it here?
Classified "TOP SECRET" means just that and when the general publc get a sniff of something that fits that catagory, they start to make up conspiracies to find a resolve that suits them.
If you have experienced the truth we are looking forward to reading it instead of the drip feed info you are throwing at us, lets swap stories??
Classified "TOP SECRET" means just that and when the general publc get a sniff of something that fits that catagory, they start to make up conspiracies to find a resolve that suits them.
If you have experienced the truth we are looking forward to reading it instead of the drip feed info you are throwing at us, lets swap stories??
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A truth revealer of suppressed information? If you know the truth why post it here?
Classified "TOP SECRET" means just that and when the general publc get a sniff of something that fits that catagory, they start to make up conspiracies to find a resolve that suits them.
If you have experienced the truth we are looking forward to reading it instead of the drip feed info you are throwing at us, lets swap stories??
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Classified "TOP SECRET" means just that and when the general publc get a sniff of something that fits that catagory, they start to make up conspiracies to find a resolve that suits them.
If you have experienced the truth we are looking forward to reading it instead of the drip feed info you are throwing at us, lets swap stories??
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Ooh. Very good.
Mine is Phone cards.. Phone companys make them so that they can rip people off. I got one today and i got ripped off 5 dollers because it kept cutting out then charging more minutes to call back. As they take min off each call you make. However today each time i called back it costed me more each time. I know its a lame conspiracy but it sucked and they r evil.
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I'd also like to emphasise that the suitability of having groups like this is questionnable at best, as they only seem to serve to make some members seem more important than others, while alienating those who are not part of that group. It is not necessary to form cliques and sub groups within the forum, I feel things work for the best when everyone is part of just the single unified UM community.
SaRuMan's quote above, which I think you agree with, scoob, is a good summation for how all members on the forum should behave. I personally depsise cliques in all shapes and forms, they are elitist and exclusionary by nature, and do indeed exist to try and put the "chosen" people in a special position of privilege above the "commoners".
You Brits among us here know all too well the crap that comes with the long existing class systems within society.
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