I am consumed by a waking dream, like percival in the grail legends one day 8 years ago I found a code in the Lord's prayer. It's been expanding ever since and yet it's so simple a child can see it in fact my 12 year old found it at the time, but it keeps getting wierder. I've made a web page which makes something which SOUNDS very complicated very simple. I am desperate for some intellegent reactions to this. The message is written but there is a symbolic and mathematical message confirming the first again easily visible to anyone. Please no abuse I've had enough of that to last a life time from the sceptics who have blocked me from all sceptic sites. Either they think I'm crazy or they're worried.
ANYONE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVELY CRITICAL TO SAY ABOUT THIS?
To view, here goes holygrail I'm recieving threats at my site contact.

P.s. at the page you will notice that I have applied for the jref paranormal challenge. That was more an act of desperation than anything, I just wanted somrone to examine this scientifically before I lose my mind but it touches so many fields and subjects that it's impossible. They would need to be specialized in christian theology, mythology, judaism (kabala), cryptology, numerology, mathematics, symbolism, earth religions, crop circles,grail loe, history.
and yet at the same time a child can see it.

Sounds interesting, but the link doesn't work.....

Thanks for replying, I don't know why that's happening, but to be sure go then just to <www.freewebs.com/holygrail> and the links to the pages are on the left of the page. Actually I think I'm being sabotaged as I used the same password for the site as I used as visitor on a sceptic site. Sometimes I csan't access either but if you try a few times it usually works then. The visuals also keep leaving the page by themself. I have to reload them ewvery and sometimes twice a day. I'll go there now and see if I can get in myself and if all is still working. If you have difficulty could you let me know? again.
Thanks. (for the reply and the tip that it's down again.

edit, few minutes later, just got in with 2 tries. when the first time didn't work closed the browser reopenedit and tried again just use the second link I gave above to the home page.

I've looked over your site many times now. I am a smart man, but still cannot grasp what you are trying to prove. That the Holy Grail, as well as other religious artifacts / relics are hidden, and encoded within the " Our Father " . and the book of Relevations helps to prove this ?.

Not to be skeptical right off the start, but your saying the Pope, the Archbishops, the Bishops, and the Cardinals, as well as the Professors and monks at the Vatican have never overlooked any of this ?.

Not only that, all of these relics would of been hidden by actual people, most likely, the Templar Knights during the Crusades. And they created this riddle of words and prayers and yet, no one in there home land, the Vatican, has a clue of it. Or, they DO know of it, but they do not want to actually go and retrieve these relics, they rather have them buried.

It looks to me that that could well be the case. Although I think that these prophesised artifacts may not be "artifacts" at all, I don't think that religion was designed to help mankind find any material artifacts.
At the moment I'm reading up on what constitutes "proof" where co incidence is concerned. There seem to be no previous examples of this kind of multiple and circular visible co incidence.
As the reactions on this site seem to be moderate and reasonable I will tell you what I don't say there. I have completed the first two tasks which the seventh seal seemed to ask me to do. (there's one more and one more date) and I was MET.
I was shown how the scroll is coded on a deeper level and how to extract it. I was then taken by another person (an aged lady who told me she was 85 years old and about to die, she said she was a 6th incarnation guardian (and went on to say that she'd never told anyone that before) and there would be no more, when I tried to inquire about how she knew I was coming and so she said she knew nothing and only followed her orders day to day that she was totally obedient. She claimed to communicate with an energy she called Jeshua and named it the energy behind Jesus. She asked me to go with her to meet some people and we got into her car and drove to a village just down the road from the meeting point. When we got there we were expected as well, we sat down to dinner and they placed me at the head of the table and they all wanted to ask me questions. Most said they had just arrived that day or the day before(from all over the world)they were mostly healers, said they were called too but had no idea why.

When I left the old lady told me in the car that Jesshua was beginning to call the chosen and I had just met the first 12, though they didn't know it yet themselves
I asked what it had to do with me and she said "your coming here had to do with a transferring of energy,that's what I do transfer energie signatures".
I asked her if she knew what I should do with the scroll from now on and she said "oh no dear that seems to be your department". She took me to her house nearby and I stayed the night, we talked a lot but I was tired and confused and wish now I'd listened better, but she was talking about Atlantis and reptile blood getting into the human DNA and it was all too wierd and too much for me to grasp.
It was rather like visiting the wizard of OZ.The next day I left the country and went home. When I pulled away in the cab I loked back and caught a very worried expression on her face. Though she'd showed no signs of worry when I was with her.

Page worked for me (you left ".htm" off the orig. link). But the images were not there.

Religion was not made for Artifacts of course, but your saying you can find the artifacts that were used by the main prophets in the bible, and by God's son himself. Although these are not just mere relics, they are said to hold powerful abilities, such as everlasting life if you drink from the Holy Grail.

There is no telling what co-incidence is. Co-incidence can be me driving, and then just before getting into a car accident, having a meteorite slam into that car saving my life. I can thank God, or I can say, wow...haha, what a co-incidence. It just all depends on the persons outlook.

You finding this "Code" can be purely co-incidence, you choose to call it an act of God. People get struck by lightning eveyday, those are some slim chances, but it happens. If you play Led Zepplins Stair Way To Heaven Backwards, you can hear the lyrics talking about Satan, total co-incidence.

Thanks, that keeps happening, I'll get them right back up.

Just checked but I did have images, this is wierd. Any idea what could cause that?

There is no telling what co-incidence is. Co-incidence can be me driving, and then just before getting into a car accident, having a meteorite slam into that car saving my life. I can thank God, or I can say, wow...haha, what a co-incidence. It just all depends on the persons outlook.

You finding this "Code" can be purely co-incidence, you choose to call it an act of God. People get struck by lightning eveyday, those are some slim chances, but it happens. If you play Led Zepplins Stair Way To Heaven Backwards, you can hear the lyrics talking about Satan, total co-incidence.
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That's what it boils down to isn't it, how much coincidence is no longer co incidence,you make a very useful point, especially the one about LED ZEPLIN but is that really true and how much lyrics and how much detail are in those lyrics, I mean are the words crystal clear for all to hear or do they "sound as if" it's saying something?

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There is no telling what co-incidence is. Co-incidence can be me driving, and then just before getting into a car accident, having a meteorite slam into that car saving my life. I can thank God, or I can say, wow...haha, what a co-incidence. It just all depends on the persons outlook.

You finding this "Code" can be purely co-incidence, you choose to call it an act of God. People get struck by lightning eveyday, those are some slim chances, but it happens. If you play Led Zepplins Stair Way To Heaven Backwards, you can hear the lyrics talking about Satan, total co-incidence.
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That's what it boils down to isn't it, how much coincidence is no longer co incidence,you make a very useful point, especially the one about LED ZEPLIN but is that really true and how much lyrics and how much detail are in those lyrics, I mean are the words crystal clear for all to hear or do they "sound as if" it's saying something?
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Once again, it's what you believe in, go to a site that has the song backwards, it defiently sounds like the words to me, but just like religion, you got to believe it. Your story about the old lady is really intriguing. Im not here to judge anyone, or to say that someone is wrong, cause no one is right or wrong in this case, because it's not scientific, it's belief. If you do find the whereabouts, and this hypothesis about the scrolls and seals is true, then I look forward to seeing you in the paper.

But, many people have come and gone with there different theories, there are many theories on how we came to be, that could all be likeable. So Im never the first person to jump on a bandwagon and believe. Im not sketical in the case that I just so,n o way, not possible. But the fact that all this would go on, and if it truly was God's true intention, I would think he would enlighten the Pope, or the Archbishops of the Vatican, who truly follow his word and teachings to the end of there lives to crack this code.

Once again, it's what you believe in, go to a site that has the song backwards, it defiently sounds like the words to me, but just like religion, you got to believe it. Your story about the old lady is really intriguing. Im not here to judge anyone, or to say that someone is wrong, cause no one is right or wrong in this case, because it's not scientific, it's belief. If you do find the whereabouts, and this hypothesis about the scrolls and seals is true, then I look forward to seeing you in the paper.

But, many people have come and gone with there different theories, there are many theories on how we came to be, that could all be likeable. So Im never the first person to jump on a bandwagon and believe. Im not sketical in the case that I just so, no way, not possible. But the fact that all this would go on, and if it truly was God's true intention, I would think he would enlighten the Pope, or the Archbishops of the Vatican, who truly follow his word and teachings to the end of there lives to crack this code.
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Maybe I SHOULD senb it to them. I showed it to my priest when I first found it and he thought it was a lot of rubbish really but we'd only found six of the seals then, It read "lamb near get to node totem rome(we thought)". It was incomplete. actually reads "get to node totem Frome (S.E. England) THEN folowed by a seventh seal giving and confirming three dates + DEI THEN (again). The reason we realised later that it was Frome and not Rome is that I'd noticed after reading the bible code after finding it which lead to other books that the cross was an incomplete Two armed cross- Holy Blood (and as it turnrd out holy grail and few other things) that it was a pity there wasn't a place called Frome, then the cross would be complete. years go by and one night the phone rings and it's my son on his work as rigger by "Holiday on Ice" and he's lost middle of the night in S;E; England and needs to be there ahead to set up. He asks me to get on map blast
to locate him and before I knew it I was staring at a little place called Frome right in the heart of Grail country. in the triangle.
I still didn't have a clue my name had anything to do with the place.and I still hadn't seen that my name was coded into the scroll (by the way that name code is
U
R
L
A
MC
B

I didn't see it at first, it was someone I met online and came to trust enough to tell him about it (which I didn't do before I went there) he "held my hand" you could say all the way. First he noticed the UR above the LAMB code my daughter found and told me UR is the international code for light. We still didn't see it, the next thing was that we both almost at the same time saw mt URL on the screen suddenly read angel lamb bride (things we'd been talking a lot about that night)
We both had like "double vision" from looking at the screen too long. Then we both went sort of woow. what's this. You can imagine, I guess. No?and still we had no clue that that that was the country marked out by the Bride stones in Stone henge avebury and brides tower in Gastonbury as Brides country protectress of the grail. The double vision led to the research into my surname and we ended up back in Frome you might say.

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Once again, it's what you believe in, go to a site that has the song backwards, it defiently sounds like the words to me, but just like religion, you got to believe it. Your story about the old lady is really intriguing. Im not here to judge anyone, or to say that someone is wrong, cause no one is right or wrong in this case, because it's not scientific, it's belief. If you do find the whereabouts, and this hypothesis about the scrolls and seals is true, then I look forward to seeing you in the paper.

But, many people have come and gone with there different theories, there are many theories on how we came to be, that could all be likeable. So Im never the first person to jump on a bandwagon and believe. Im not sketical in the case that I just so, no way, not possible. But the fact that all this would go on, and if it truly was God's true intention, I would think he would enlighten the Pope, or the Archbishops of the Vatican, who truly follow his word and teachings to the end of there lives to crack this code.
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Maybe I SHOULD senb it to them. I showed it to my priest when I first found it and he thought it was a lot of rubbish really but we'd only found six of the seals then, It read "lamb near get to node totem rome(we thought)". It was incomplete. actually reads "get to node totem Frome (S.E. England) THEN folowed by a seventh seal giving and confirming three dates + DEI THEN (again). The reason we realised later that it was Frome and not Rome is that I'd noticed after reading the bible code after finding it which lead to other books that the cross was an incomplete Two armed cross- Holy Blood (and as it turnrd out holy grail and few other things) that it was a pity there wasn't a place called Frome, then the cross would be complete. years go by and one night the phone rings and it's my son on his work as rigger by "Holiday on Ice" and he's lost middle of the night in S;E; England and needs to be there ahead to set up. He asks me to get on map blast
to locate him and before I knew it I was staring at a little place called Frome right in the heart of Grail country. in the triangle.
I still didn't have a clue my name had anything to do with the place.and I still hadn't seen that my name was coded into the scroll (by the way that name code is
U
R
L
A
MC
B

I didn't see it at first, it was someone I met online and came to trust enough to tell him about it (which I didn't do before I went there) he "held my hand" you could say all the way. First he noticed the UR above the LAMB code my daughter found and told me UR is the international code for light. We still didn't see it, the next thing was that we both almost at the same time saw mt URL on the screen suddenly read angel lamb bride (things we'd been talking a lot about that night)
We both had like "double vision" from looking at the screen too long. Then we both went sort of woow. what's this. You can imagine, I guess. No?and still we had no clue that that that was the country marked out by the Bride stones in Stone henge avebury and brides tower in Gastonbury as Brides country protectress of the grail. The double vision led to the research into my surname and we ended up back in Frome you might say.
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hmm...interesting theory, and story. I myself am an ex-priest of the Roman Catholic Church. If you do end up getting a scanner let me know, I wouldn't mind seeing these "Seals" you speak of. Feel free to PM me, and I will give you my knowledge, on any advice or mathematics you may need help with. My expertise is on latin and demonology, as well as world religions. Once again, Im not saying I believe your story, but Im not saying I doubt it as well, Im always open.

I just realised AFTER writing that, a funny little connection, that the first person who met me and showed me how to find the other codes until I went with the old lady was a sort of rastafarian lady and I said to her that at first I thought it was Rome and she laughed and said that the Totem at the train station in Frome was missing the F for a few years just recently too. Then she said "so in heaven,so on earth".
Sounding like a steven King novel yet?

I'm doing a search now,thing is I had no computer for a while there (and I've never had a scanner so a while back I made some scans at an internet club I go to. They're on floppy but I'm afraid i've lost the image on floppy and I made a new one and finally I have a big pile of floppys with all kinds of stuff (not very organised hey-she's gone and lost the grail) and they're not reliable and you find them suddenly empty (or I do anyway) so I'm going thryu them now asd I speak, not having any luck yet though, anyway that club is on holiday and back in september, having said that if I find it on floppy can i email you it?




By the way that link isholygrail

Go ahead, in your PM is my e-mail address.