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Sunofone
how can the military be so cold blooded in their continued denial of the poisons in the vaccines and their refusal to admit the DEPLETED URANIUM attrocities? even worse is the medias lack of justice on the subject and our continued complacency
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Former Air Force Capt.Turned Activist Says Pentagon's Actions Towards Depleted Uranium Use 'Beyond Treason'

Popular activist-broadcaster, Joyce Riley, hits government 'right between the eyes' with powerful new documentary exposing cover-up of depleted uranium illnesses, leaving Gulf War troops sick and dying.
August 24, 2005

By Greg Szymanski


There was a time in former Air Force Capt. Joyce Riley’s life when everything was coming up roses. There was a time when the country girl from Kansas probably felt like Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz, traveling down the Yellow Brick Road.

And like an old song says, she had the “world on a string sitting on a rainbow” during the late 1980s, as Capt. Riley fit perfectly into the military scheme of things like a poster-child officer with her boots and epilates shined to the tee every day.

Back in the good old days, Capt. Riley thought she had it all figured out. She thought her life, the military and the world had a nice, neat little yellow ribbon tied around it with smiles, happiness and a taste of the good ole’ Irish whiskey to go around for everybody.

It was a simple, structured, follow orders kind of world Capt. Riley created for herself. It was the kind of world where everything was taken at face value without questioning much else but what was for dinner or who was going to take the dog out for a walk.

Simply put, Capt. Riley was the type of person people like Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others in the Pentagon enjoy having around. She was the type that put duty, honor and country first, always trusting and never thinking her superiors could stray from the straight and narrow.

And back in the good old days, Capt. Riley probably would have jumped head first into the Grand Canyon if given an order. She probably would have jumped, thinking all the way down better to die then to disobey an order.

But something strange happened to her on that long fall down into the great abyss. Something happened while floating in thin air over the Grand Canyon that lifted her up, gave her wings and gave her the courage to fly away from military life and, more importantly, fly away from the “yes sir, no sir” in your face type military thinking.

It’s the great Hindu thinkers who say that to truly understand life one must travel full circle, disbelieving what once was believed and, in essence, becoming one’s polar opposite. And, without knowing it or putting any religious labels on her life’s journey, that’s exactly what happened to Captain Riley.

Although her transformation from a military order taker and combat nurse to “military pain in the ass” and activist didn’t happen over night, it happened perhaps like a Kansas tornado strikes. It happened like a sudden burst of wind quickly clearing the excess debris from her soul, leaving in its aftermath a belief system torn to pieces but, at the same time, leaving a body and soul left to be rebuilt brick by brick, one truthful step at a time.

And like most life transformations involving more than one significant event, Capt. Riley’s is no different since her physical problems caused by her stint in the military are every bit as important as the problems with her changing belief system. In fact, both are so intertwined that her physical illness after taking 10 unknown vaccines at one time in 1991, mandated by the military prior to Gulf War I, actually led to her present-day role as anti-government broadcaster, producer of documentaries and activist fighting to save military lives affected by illness and diseases from both Gulf Wars that are not even being recognized by the Pentagon.

“At one time in my life the military was the most noble cause I could ever think of. I remember even writing in my journal back in 1991 how I had 10 vaccine shots in one day and how I would have taken 100 in order to serve my country.” said Riley who now has replaced the captain in her name with truth-seeker, as she talked openly from her home in the Midwest about her “about face” from toeing the military line.

“George H. Bush was my hero back then and I remember getting into my flight suit at Kelly Air Force Base, feeling extremely proud before being deployed into Gulf War I while Bush was on TV saying: ‘This is the beginning of the New World Order.’

“Looking back, it was so ironic. I was so enamored with Bush when he actually sold destructive chemicals and weapons to Iraq in 1985 to 1989. Without me knowing, he was responsible for poisoning us over there while, at the same time, I was eating right out of his hand.”

Although Riley was never deployed to the Middle East, she remained stateside working as a surgical nurse on one of the military’s C-130 flying hospitals until becoming too ill to continue in December 1991.

“I had to quite flying because I was too sick and went into the reserves,” recalls Riley, saying she was diagnosed with a debilitating type disease with MS symptoms, causing extreme pain due to excessive nerve damage. “When I received essentially no help from the military during the next few years, I began searching out alternative cures and medicines since I needed to continue working as a nurse to support myself.”

And it wasn’t until 1995 that Riley’s life drastically changed, becoming her polar opposite on the other side of the military fence, after being shunned by the Department of Defense (DOD) and the Veteran’s Administration (VA), both organizations refusing to recognize that her illness was even remotely caused by the vaccines taken in 1991.

“I was furious after I called the DOD and the VA and they wouldn’t lift a finger,” said Riley, adding that it was difficult to get answers because the military never labeled or even told troops what vaccines were being administered. “And I found out to my surprise that if you were in the Reserves or the National Guard, you couldn’t even use the VA hospitals. That was a huge shock. I felt deceived.”

With virtually nobody addressing the vaccine problem in the military, Riley set out to find a reason and a causal relationship between her illness and the vaccines. By a quirk of fate and a stroke of Irish luck, she met Dr. Garth Nicholson affiliated with a Houston cancer treatment center, who had been researching Riley’s vaccine-related problems.

“Since a large number of Gulf War I vets were returning with the same symptoms I had, he asked if I would submit to a test he developed,” said Riley. “Sure enough, I tested positive like more than 50 percent of returning Gulf War troops, which showed proof positive the vaccines were most likely causing the illness since I never went to the Middle East.”

Armed with medical evidence, Riley decided to take her campaign to the public air waves in Houston, buying air time on a popular Houston AM station in an attempt to reach out and locate other Gulf War veterans with the same symptoms.

As finances permitted, Riley continued purchasing Saturday air-time, calling her show ‘Nurse Talk Radio,” as she tried to aggressively expose Gulf War I illnesses while also turning against the military she once loved and revered by exposing its failure to care for the ailing troops.

But like a gust of wind from a Kansas tornado, she said after researching and reading a declassified Senate Report numbered 103.97 from the Veterans affairs Committee, it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, forcing her to mount an even more aggressive public attack against the military, an attack that is still going on today.

“It changed my life,” said Riley, referring to the Senate report. “I had to go public and I have never stopped since the report was beyond belief and appalling. It said, now get this, that during the past 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel have been medically and scientifically experimented upon without their fundamental knowledge or consent. Can you believe that! It’s simply disgusting and unacceptable.

“And when I finally realized the higher-ups in the military could care less if the troops lived or died, my loyalty to the military and all it stood for was completely over. I was now on a campaign and mission to get at the truth and help as many people end their suffering caused by a lack of caring, concern and cooperation by the Pentagon. I realized there was a cover-up and I was the only person in 1996 to come forward.”

Riley not only came forward on Houston radio, compiling documentation from many others suffering from the same vaccine-related illness, but she also testified in 1996 before the Presidential Advisory Commission on Gulf War Illnesses.
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Malruhn
To start with, a medical professional that gets injected with an unknown substance is not much of a medical professional.

There is a LOT of conjecture in this piece that is just automatically attributed to be "the government's fault".

And the Air Force has recently released info that said that thousands of junior officer have had their personal info stolen by identity thieves over the past decade by AIR FORCE PERSONNEL. That she was slammed and had "five aliases" attached to her credit account is not a surprise. Most people that get their IDs stolen have multiple IDs associated with the crime.

Also, her physical when she left active duty would have shown her medical condition and alleged "problems" at that time. If she was too sick to be on active duty, it would be VERY difficult for her to QUALIFY to serve in the Reserves.

I seriously doubt her story.

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Edited to add: And I am unable to find this mystery "Senate Report" numbered 103.97.
babayagafamiliar
Depleted Uranium assuredly causes heavy metal poisoning of a very serious nature. Confirmed, verified, undoubtable, case closed. Yet the army uses it in bulltes,missiles,tank armor, Humvees,etc. This is callous and cruel and must stop. It is nothing short of genocide to the people of Iraq who will inhale Uranium for decades because of people like this last poster.
dmgspycat
Mahlrun...here is a simple equation for you...


The soldiers get sent to Iraq healthy, then they come back with illness indicative of DU poisoning some die. Veterans hospital and Pentagon say they know nothing but what is provable is that the Pentagon used DU in that war.

What is not to understand? You deny these soldiers the truth? The Pentagon needs to come clean and pay. Our soldiers are not "pawns"...they are people who have lives to live and deserve to be treated better than they are, especially by the Veterans Hospitals.
Malruhn
I never said I didn't believe that DU is used and causes problems - I just said that I didn't believe THIS lady's story.

I believe there is money in banks - but if a guy on a tricycle and dressed in a clown suit rides up to tell me that there is money in banks - I will have problems believing him as well.

There are too many holes in this woman's story for me to take her seriously. I believe in her core idea, just not her version of events.
dmgspycat
Okay.
__Kratos__
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that during the past 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel have been medically and scientifically experimented upon without their fundamental knowledge or consent.


You would have thought at least one might have noticed something was up? rolleyes.gif

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“And I found out to my surprise that if you were in the Reserves or the National Guard, you couldn’t even use the VA hospitals. That was a huge shock. I felt deceived.”


blink.gif I wonder what THIS page is for then:
A Summary of VA Benefits for National Guard and Reserve Personnel

Must be there to look pretty, I guess. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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a taste of the good ole’ Irish whiskey to go around for everybody.


Anybody else think she might have enjoyed that whiskey a little too much? I mean... jeez... why would you put that in there?

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There are too many holes in this woman's story for me to take her seriously. I believe in her core idea, just not her version of events.


Malruhn... so you believe the goverment is testing thousands and thousand of soldiers? blink.gif Yeah, what better way to get things done then do medical tests on the guys we make do our dirty work so we get filthy rich! Not matter that they might get sick or die and wouldn't be able to fight! rolleyes.gif




MichaelS
I find the person's story a little... off to be honest.

Malruhn
Kratos, my beliefs regarding the person in the first post:

We use depleted uranium rounds - and don't have a good idea what it can do in the long haul. On the surface, with very little knowledge of the inticracies of nuclear physics, it SEEMS very dangerous.

There are people in the hierarchy of the military that have good ideas - but don't completely think them through. "Hey, I have a great idea - let's inocculate everyone for XYZ!" The only problem is that the vaccine hasn't been tested in people that are in a certain environment (jungle, desert, whatever). This may or may not cause problems. Or, in another case, the shot hasn't been tested in people that have been inocculated against ABC as well... which may cause other problems.

I don't think of these things as conspiracies, just red tape (I'm too lazy to look up the spelling of "beuracracy/bue/bur...").

The government has to a lot of things that the general population doesn't get to see, stupid things like planning and doing drills and setting up contingencies and the like. Joe Average doesn't give a rat's behind about this stuff - but when taken out of context by someone that DOES get to see it - WOW does it give some people something to keep them up at night, even though it is innocent.

Howzat?

That is the extent that I agree with the lady in the OP.
__Kratos__
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We use depleted uranium rounds - and don't have a good idea what it can do in the long haul. On the surface, with very little knowledge of the inticracies of nuclear physics, it SEEMS very dangerous.


Even more dangerous to the people it is being shot at. We use DU because it is 2.5 or so times more dense then steel it works better.

"No guy ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb guy die for his country." - edit version of Patton.

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There are people in the hierarchy of the military that have good ideas - but don't completely think them through. "Hey, I have a great idea - let's inocculate everyone for XYZ!" The only problem is that the vaccine hasn't been tested in people that are in a certain environment (jungle, desert, whatever). This may or may not cause problems. Or, in another case, the shot hasn't been tested in people that have been inocculated against ABC as well... which may cause other problems.


Do you have any evidence to these claims that directly incriminates high officals?

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The government has to a lot of things that the general population doesn't get to see, stupid things like planning and doing drills and setting up contingencies and the like.


So, the goverment can't do anything GOOD that the public doesn't know about? blink.gif There are things each day that the general pubic doesn't know about but helps them stay safe. The goverment is NOT completely evil. thumbsup.gif
Malruhn
Oh, heck no, the government does good things all the time!!! It is the behind the scenes stuff I labeled as "stupid stuff" because most people don't see the usefulness of it. I mean, who cares if there is a plan to deal with Canadians invading Minnesota? But, there is a contingency plan for it... *yawn*. Maybe my use of the term "stupid" was misleading - and for that I am sorry.

No, in my opinion the government isn't evil, disgustingly bureaucratic at times (I looked it up!), but not evil.

As for misguided attempts at being helpful: the use of the malaria drugs back in the late '80s that had a reaction to people that had very high salt intakes. The same soldiers invading Panama were also under orders to significantly increase their salt intake to deal with water loss from sweat... two good ideas, the people that came up with them just didn't talk!!

Then in environmental protection there are plans to protect water intakes and public beaches that mandate deflecting oil and hazmat spills into environmentally sensitive areas... all in the name of protecting the environment. Good idea - just not thought out all the way.

And I will agree that depleted uranium makes for a wonderful tank round - it punches through things better than a hot knife through butter - killing the enemy very efficiently and saving our troops. However, what does DU dust do to survivors in the area? In areas with high concentrations of armor that were killed by us, what will significant levels of DU do to the civilian population in the area after the conflict? We can't answer those questions. THIS is why I semi-agree with the paranoid woman in the first post.
Sunofone
the DU scandal continues UNREPORTED by mainstream media
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Depleted Uranium - US
Lung Cancer Rates Soar

From Karl W B Schwarz
kwbschwarz2@snet.net
3-9-6


So, what is the plan?

On the March 8, 2006 edition of the CNN American Morning program with Miles O'Brien and Soledad O'Brien, they made a startling announcement. On average there are 175,000 new cases of lung cancer each year in the United States. For just the months of January and February 2006 there are 172,000 confirmed, newly diagnosed cases of lung cancer. This is not just a little spike on the charts and much worse news is coming. That is already averaging this year about 6 times the normal incidence of new lung cancer cases in a year.

They tried to attribute it to second hand smoke, but second hand smoke and cigarettes are nothing compared to being exposed to Depleted Uranium ("DU") and particulates created by DU explosions. You can smoke for 30 years and not do the damage that DU can do to you in 30 days.
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RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(dmgspycat @ Aug 24 2005, 08:27 PM) [snapback]807574[/snapback]

What is not to understand? You deny these soldiers the truth? The Pentagon needs to come clean and pay. Our soldiers are not "pawns"...they are people who have lives to live and deserve to be treated better than they are, especially by the Veterans Hospitals.
I agree, but unfortunately ALL SOLDIERS ARE PAWNS.
rogue3334
Hey guys,

Yes, this does exsist. I was deployed in 2003 with the US Army. I received 3 Anthrax shots. I was very healthy before I deployed, which I was ordered to take. I enjoyed life. After I came home, my life began to turn upside down. I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. I was diagnosed epilepsy. As my pain and symptoms manifested, I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. I was given blood tests, and 10 of my bodily systems are screwed: some are insulin, thyroid, imune, testosterone. My doctor contributes this to the Anthrax vaccine. How can you explain being healty one minute, then all of a sudden, start getting everything possible lol? I, like others, would give anything to have my life back. Our country lied about the vaccine, so politicians can get a kick back. The numbers being reported for such conditions, are not being reported accurately. It is actually much higher. Many vets go to doctors, and are misdiagnosed or the doctor doesnt want to diagnose them with GWS. Others, have no idea what is wrong, and may not seek help out of fear. I gotta tell you, this crap suxs the big one. I belong to a group, where we are all veterans, and at one time healthy, now we all have the same crap wrong with us. Kinda strange wouldnt you agree?

Someone needs to be held accountable for what they have done to us. We didnt deserve this, for our country to turn their backs on us, is untterly painful. We will be seeking justice in the legal arena shortly with tons of evidence linking this to the anthrax.

If anyone here is thinking about joining the military, take a cold shower and beat yourself with a 2x4. That way, you will know what it feels like to have this crap.

I wish everyone the best!

Thanks

scoobysnack
QUOTE(rogue3334 @ Jun 13 2006, 10:16 PM) [snapback]1230633[/snapback]

Hey guys,

Yes, this does exsist. I was deployed in 2003 with the US Army. I received 3 Anthrax shots. I was very healthy before I deployed, which I was ordered to take. I enjoyed life. After I came home, my life began to turn upside down. I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. I was diagnosed epilepsy. As my pain and symptoms manifested, I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. I was given blood tests, and 10 of my bodily systems are screwed: some are insulin, thyroid, imune, testosterone. My doctor contributes this to the Anthrax vaccine. How can you explain being healty one minute, then all of a sudden, start getting everything possible lol? I, like others, would give anything to have my life back. Our country lied about the vaccine, so politicians can get a kick back. The numbers being reported for such conditions, are not being reported accurately. It is actually much higher. Many vets go to doctors, and are misdiagnosed or the doctor doesnt want to diagnose them with GWS. Others, have no idea what is wrong, and may not seek help out of fear. I gotta tell you, this crap suxs the big one. I belong to a group, where we are all veterans, and at one time healthy, now we all have the same crap wrong with us. Kinda strange wouldnt you agree?

Someone needs to be held accountable for what they have done to us. We didnt deserve this, for our country to turn their backs on us, is untterly painful. We will be seeking justice in the legal arena shortly with tons of evidence linking this to the anthrax.

If anyone here is thinking about joining the military, take a cold shower and beat yourself with a 2x4. That way, you will know what it feels like to have this crap.

I wish everyone the best!

Thanks


I'm glad you took the time to create an account to post this information. I'm sorry that happend to you. The military does not care about the soldiers, like yourself. We the people do, but not the establishment.

Look what Henry Kissinger said about you:

“Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
-- Henry Kissinger, quoted in “Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its
Own POW’s in Vietnam”
paquetboy1
Ive gotten all those shots been deployed in 2002,2004,and currently im not having any problems yet and i hope i dont
Malruhn
I received the full series of six anthrax shots - AND deployed to Kuwait and Iraq...

And the only problem I have is that I still can't program my VCR.

Methinks that many of the problems are compounded by other situations...
scoobysnack
QUOTE(Malruhn @ Jun 15 2006, 10:09 AM) [snapback]1232490[/snapback]

I received the full series of six anthrax shots - AND deployed to Kuwait and Iraq...

And the only problem I have is that I still can't program my VCR.

Methinks that many of the problems are compounded by other situations...


I think you are right to an extent. Many thousands of people have recieved the same shots. Some people react differently. That doesn't mean that you will not develop health problems in the near future though, or that you childeren will not have birth defects. Of course nothing may happen to you at all, so it probably is a mix of things.
Sunofone
QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Jun 15 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1232857[/snapback]

I think you are right to an extent. Many thousands of people have recieved the same shots. Some people react differently. That doesn't mean that you will not develop health problems in the near future though, or that you childeren will not have birth defects. Of course nothing may happen to you at all, so it probably is a mix of things.

exactly-- and if you develop cancer a few years down the road it will never be linked conclusively to the shots-- birth defects and autism will be even harder to associate with the shots
Malruhn
Or, *GASP*, it could be the result of somethng else entirely like genetics or too many Big Macs!

Nahhhh!! If something bad happens, it MUST be an evil cabal that is behind it! It can never be LUCK or any OTHER reason...
KingTomis
Didn't you know, big macs area conspiracy too.

Put out by the evil administration to slowly poison our people with trans fats and to slowly clog thier arteries.

Damn you government...
Sunofone
ok ill play the fool and accept the lie about cancer being genetically inherited -- why not add autism and diabetes to the list
rapid7

QUOTE(Sunofone @ Aug 24 2005, 07:54 AM) [snapback]806578[/snapback]

It’s the great Hindu thinkers who say that to truly understand life one must travel full circle, disbelieving what once was believed and, in essence, becoming one’s polar opposite.


This struck a chord with me. Wise words indeed.


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