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soconfuzzledx1
If it is possible that aliens are coming to earth from wherever they come from isnt it possible that everyone who has been an " abductee " are getting looked at because they might want to take over their body so they can get closer to hman kind.

And if they are so called " evil " they can study the humans and find out how to invade and win by usin everything we can do against us.

Sorry the is my opinion post..if anyone agrees you can try to help me clear it up i am not the best at explaining things. But if you dont can you give me another reason why the " abductees " usually have scarson them or a " baby " is taken away or something like that. unsure.gif

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maghrebia
well after all the stories I've heard and shows I've watched I think it could be possible.
On the other hand the ''abductees'' could have been hallucinating.
as for the pregnant women that loose their baby I had a friend who lost her child after falling off the side of her bed. so maybe they injured themselves while dreaming about these aliens...
I could be wrong though...I tend to take both sides on a subjet quite often. rofl.gif
Miracle Alien Girl
i think that the aliens are not only coming but their here already. they probably use their old bases that are underwater or underground as storage sites to store stuff that they use like natural resources that they get from earth. as for them studying us. they could probably be planning against us. but they also could just be curious. or they could be trying to help us with whatever. after all they do have time machines so they are probably able to see the future or go into the future or go into the past and find out what happened in our past and what will happen in our future. the same probably goes for their past and future. as for them being bad. I dont think we should say right off the bat that their bad. who knows why they expierement on us. i think that we should get to know them more. first get to know them on the inside. then on the outside. and like with humans there's good humans and then there's bad humans. the same is probably true for the aliens. there's probably good ones and theres probably bad ones. or they probably have a master race that is slaving them to do their master alien races dirty work. like with the greys.

who knows?
and no I have no proof. I'm just putting out some possibilitys. who knows aliens probably could be a figement of our heads. we probably are goof balls and don't even know it. ha ha. laugh.gif

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dunderhead
Maybe there's a big giant pod under your bed..? If so...Don't fall asleep..!
~*S.T.R.*~
Well like a lot of people i am still on the fence about the whole alien situation. But why dont a lot of people think that they may only be another civilization that only wants to know what we know because they are still decades behind. If that is it then maybe they only want to get information and then go back to there home and leave us alone. Dont know...maybe im naive but...
theSOURCE
They're making themselves look like humans because they want cars and earth women! They want to be able to cruise around in a hot sports car, or a sweet street rod, and pick up hot looking women, because they don't have either of these on their home planet.

They're jealous of us, I tell you. Jealous!!! w00t.gif
SoLLiZ
my view, space is to big to have earth as the only inhabited planet. but as far as those beings coming here and abducting people, i'm not to sure on that.

look at reports on contact at various places on the planet, especially over decades. they vary drastically.

in the 50's in america, they looked like humans, by the 70's and 80's they were the grays. meanwhile in south america, the "aliens" always looked different in each damn report and resembled something from a nickelodeon cartoon, and they still do.

thats just one example, reports vary so much that i think the majority of u.s. reports are bunk simply by the similarity between them, and the similarity between hollywood and books on the subject.
primordial
Its going to be a (culture) shock to Mankind when these Beings shows up(whenever they get here!). I hope they are friendly and pray that we are welcoming. It won't be too long ,until then, keep looking up.
Cadetak
Think of it from an aliens view. What would humans do if they found an entire planet full of animals and intelligent beings. We would most deffenitally do some R&D.
Forum Overlord
Not only Do I bewlieve that there are aliens, i believe that they do walk among us. There are many suspicious people I have encountered who seemed to demonstrate extraterrestrial abilities, or act bizarre in inhuman ways.
snuffypuffer
Well, if there are aliens coming down from the mothership, they're probably doing the same things we do when we discover things. There's probably the Jane Goodall types living among the humans and studying us for scientific reasons, poachers coming down and stealing babies to sell as pets, corporations testing alien cosmetics on us, there are all kinds of reasons for them being here.
Yelekiah
But if they wanted to screw us over they would have done it a long time ago. These aliens worship technology. The only reason they don't kill us all is that we have something they don't.
Nadal
Microwave ovens! I knew it! Greedy bastards!
mat112
QUOTE(McKenna @ Aug 27 2005, 08:37 PM)
i think that the aliens are not only coming but their here already. they probably use their old bases that are underwater or underground as storage sites to store stuff that they use like natural resources that they get from earth. as for them studying us. they could probably be planning against us. but they also could just be curious. or they could be trying to help us with whatever. after all they do have time machines so they are probably able to see the future or go into the future or go into the past and find out what happened in our past and what will happen in our future. the same probably goes for their past and future.  as for them being bad. I dont think we should say right off the bat that their bad. who knows why they expierement on us. i think that we should get to know them more. first get to know them on the inside. then on the outside. and like with humans there's good humans and then there's bad humans. the same is probably true for the aliens. there's probably good ones and theres probably bad ones. or they probably have a master race that is slaving them to do their master alien races dirty work. like with the greys.

who knows?
and no I have no proof. I'm just putting out some possibilitys. who knows aliens probably could be a figement of our heads. we probably are goof balls and don't even know it. ha ha.    laugh.gif 

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under water? i heard aliens hate water
soconfuzzledx1
QUOTE(mat112 @ Sep 4 2005, 11:01 PM)
QUOTE(McKenna @ Aug 27 2005, 08:37 PM)
i think that the aliens are not only coming but their here already. they probably use their old bases that are underwater or underground as storage sites to store stuff that they use like natural resources that they get from earth. as for them studying us. they could probably be planning against us. but they also could just be curious. or they could be trying to help us with whatever. after all they do have time machines so they are probably able to see the future or go into the future or go into the past and find out what happened in our past and what will happen in our future. the same probably goes for their past and future.  as for them being bad. I dont think we should say right off the bat that their bad. who knows why they expierement on us. i think that we should get to know them more. first get to know them on the inside. then on the outside. and like with humans there's good humans and then there's bad humans. the same is probably true for the aliens. there's probably good ones and theres probably bad ones. or they probably have a master race that is slaving them to do their master alien races dirty work. like with the greys.

who knows?
and no I have no proof. I'm just putting out some possibilitys. who knows aliens probably could be a figement of our heads. we probably are goof balls and don't even know it. ha ha.     laugh.gif 

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Thats only in the movie signs, just like it sayst hey blow posionous gas out of their fingers and stuff.
odds022
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But if they wanted to screw us over they would have done it a long time ago. These aliens worship technology. The only reason they don't kill us all is that we have something they don't.


IMO i think that they would be smarter than that. As in just launching an all out attack.
I think the smartest thing to do would be to infiltrate the governments and their law enforcement agencies over a period of time. Then install puppet Prime ministers/Presidents and have the earth under their control. Once thats done, turn it into a one world government.
I really dont think its that far fetched either.
I'm sure it would take a long period of time to do in regards to our life span, maybe fifty years or so, but who knows how long they can live for.
thirteen
this idea that aliens r here to take over is a bunch of bull ,come on if they wanted to take over why didnt they do it a hundred years ago?[when we didnt have all this new tec...]


also if you were a alien what would you be ??????

politian

actor

singer

they re here ! they probaly r the goverment!
Guardsman Bass
Let me put it this way. These aliens have come from a distant star in spacecraft that obviously indicates technology vastly advanced beyond our own. So why, if they are here, bother with all that infiltration stuff that smacks of revised human paranoias about demonic possession? If they wanted to study humans, all they would have to do would be to announce their arrivals, and threaten to bombard the planet from orbit if a sample of humans was not sent up in one of their spacecraft.

In fact, if they are so advanced, they probably wouldn't have to do that at all. They could simply demand that they be allowed to take a blood sample of several humans, or a set of reproductive cells, and examine the genetics. Or clone humans for experiments, and so on, ad nauseum. All the "sneaking around" seems needlessly pointless, especially for creatures obviously pragmatic enough to be able to build advanced spacecraft.
odds022
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These aliens have come from a distant star in spacecraft that obviously indicates technology vastly advanced beyond our own.

Well firstly, if they are here, we dont have a clue where they came from anyway.
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So why, if they are here, bother with all that infiltration stuff that smacks of revised human paranoias about demonic possession? If they wanted to study humans, all they would have to do would be to announce their arrivals, and threaten to bombard the planet from orbit if a sample of humans was not sent up in one of their spacecraft.

Because infiltration is a hell of a lot smarter than just saying, "do this or we'll kill ya". Why do something like that and cause a global panic and have the world grab all their guns, governments get all their defenses on alert when instead you could do it covertly, and in the end control the people and their armies... Seems just a tad smarter dont you think...?
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All the "sneaking around" seems needlessly pointless

Read above.
Guardsman Bass
QUOTE(odds022 @ Sep 5 2005, 10:14 AM)
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These aliens have come from a distant star in spacecraft that obviously indicates technology vastly advanced beyond our own.

Well firstly, if they are here, we dont have a clue where they came from anyway.


There are no signs of intelligent life, or other civilizations, within our solar system; especially not civilizations that would be at least as advanced as we are to do space travel. That means that unless you believe they are some form of magical beings with the ability to transport themselves across large distances, or have the ability to completely and utterly hide a civilization from human eyes in the solar system (hiding for no clear reason, too, since humans have only been able to clearly detect intelligent activity on other worlds in our solar system for the last 100 years or so, and that capability itself is questionable), they are using heavily advanced technology to travel vast distances to this world.

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So why, if they are here, bother with all that infiltration stuff that smacks of revised human paranoias about demonic possession? If they wanted to study humans, all they would have to do would be to announce their arrivals, and threaten to bombard the planet from orbit if a sample of humans was not sent up in one of their spacecraft.

Because infiltration is a hell of a lot smarter than just saying, "do this or we'll kill ya". Why do something like that and cause a global panic and have the world grab all their guns, governments get all their defenses on alert when instead you could do it covertly, and in the end control the people and their armies... Seems just a tad smarter dont you think...?


Why don't we compare these options, especially if we rule out the possibility of the aliens having some kind of near-magical shapeshifting power. These aliens have come from another world, and they are attempting to study humans. Assuming they have recently arrived (since if they anciently arrived to study humans, they could have simply abducted a few of them for research, and that would be that), they would know something about human technological capabilities and our spread on the planet Earth, but next to nothing about human cultural subtleties, human ways of speaking, how human beings actually interact, and so forth; all the minor stuff that would be necessary for infiltration, especially if they try to take human form (which would be another extreme difficulty, since they have no human subjects to compare their "disguise" too, and no idea on how an actual human body reacts in different environments). You're telling me that infiltration, in order to get their hands on a few human subjects, would be a "helluva lot smarter" than either threatening the world from orbit, or simply asking for some human subjects and lying about what they intend to do with them?blink.gif
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All the "sneaking around" seems needlessly pointless

Read above.
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Answered your claim. My point still stands.
odds022
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These aliens have come from another world, and they are attempting to study humans

Why is it that you think you know their intentions?
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they could have simply abducted a few of them for research, and that would be that

Again, why do you think they came here to study us? I am curious as to your reasons.
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You're telling me that infiltration, in order to get their hands on a few human subjects, would be a "helluva lot smarter" than either threatening the world from orbit, or simply asking for some human subjects and lying about what they intend to do with them

Ummm... Yep... Read what i wrote. If these beings are so smart, then they wouldnt be so stupid as to incite a global panic which would put themselves in danger of a mass uprising and global war upon THEM.
Doing that is not smart... So been intelligent beings im sure they would try and avoid that.. I dont think that is very hard for most people to understand.
We as humans try and do most things by force, and if you havent noticed that doesnt go so smooth, now does it?
So yes, infiltration is obviously much smarter than inciting 7 billion people to attack them.
Guardsman Bass
QUOTE(odds022 @ Sep 5 2005, 10:46 AM)
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These aliens have come from another world, and they are attempting to study humans

Why is it that you think you know their intentions?


I don't. However, that is what the original thread author talked about in his OP; aliens coming to Earth to study us. And in any case, whatever reason they have for wanting to get close to humans has no effect on the fact that if they wanted human research subjects, going through an enormous hassle to try to adapt to human society is a very stupid way to do it, for the reasons I mentioned above.
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they could have simply abducted a few of them for research, and that would be that

Again, why do you think they came here to study us? I am curious as to your reasons.


I don't think that aliens came here to study us, or that they would, at least in person. But the reason I talked about is the same reason I mentioned above: it is in the OP.
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You're telling me that infiltration, in order to get their hands on a few human subjects, would be a "helluva lot smarter" than either threatening the world from orbit, or simply asking for some human subjects and lying about what they intend to do with them

Ummm... Yep... Read what i wrote. If these beings are so smart, then they wouldnt be so stupid as to incite a global panic which would put themselves in danger of a mass uprising and global war upon THEM.
Doing that is not smart... So been intelligent beings im sure they would try and avoid that.. I dont think that is very hard for most people to understand.
We as humans try and do most things by force, and if you havent noticed that doesnt go so smooth, now does it?
So yes, infiltration is obviously much smarter than inciting 7 billion people to attack them.
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You give the human race too much for capability to respond to any alien threat, especially since the human race is nowhere near united, particularly in the political area, and the first thing the any government in the world would be attempting to do would be to successfully contact the aliens.

But that is besides the point, and the enormous difficulties in infiltration that I mentioned above, not to mention getting your alien operatives down onto the world without some form of detection by one of the myriad radar nets of the world's military powers, still stand. Yes, it WOULD be easier for the aliens simply to ask for a few humans, or threaten for them, than to go through a long, drawn-out schema that could easily result in their operative being captured, and the discovery of alien infiltration precipitating the global war it was supposed to prevent. You would probably even have plenty of people volunteering to join the aliens.
odds022
Infiltration is a much smarter option for gaining control of something such as governments, armed forces, etc. The CIA are known for their infiltration techniques, and they prove that it does work, and is more efficiant.

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You give the human race too much for capability to respond to any alien threat, especially since the human race is nowhere near united, particularly in the political area


I am certianly not saying we would win. In fact i think we would be completely dostroyed. But that been said, eventually the governments would use nukes and completely destroy us, the planet, and im sure at least some of them. Therefor, knowing the umpredictablility of a species like humans (as i am sure you will agree, we are) they would do the smart option, and go stealth. To do things slowly and less recognisably, is smart, showing it to be thought out and more advanced, than sitting in the skies saying we will kill you all. If there ship was destroyed, then so would they be.
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not to mention getting your alien operatives down onto the world without some form of detection by one of the myriad radar nets of the world's military powers

UFO's are seen all the time in the skies, including landings. This doesnt mean they are extra-terrestrial in origin, but that is beside the point. The people that see these things (who speak out) get labelled as crazy and get ridiculled, even by friends and family. So i dont think it would be very hard at all.
And these things get picked up by military quite often too, there are many well known reports of this.
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aliens simply to ask for a few humans, or threaten for them

As i said above, the ramifications for this could easily be alot worse. If people found out that the governments of the world cooperated with aliens, and willfully gave them their citizens, there would be riots around the world, governments would be overthrown, and general upheaval on a global bases.. There goes society... So i dont think the governments would agree to that, knowing what would happen. Of coarse, thats not to say they wouldnt, this is just IMO.
Guardsman Bass
QUOTE(odds022 @ Sep 5 2005, 11:36 AM)
Infiltration is a much smarter option for gaining control of something such as governments, armed forces, etc. The CIA are known for their infiltration techniques, and they prove that it does work, and is more efficiant.


Infiltration is a smarter option for getting information when you have a good idea of how a culture and people work. Even amongst humans, spy networks take considerable time and effort to establish, and infiltration in a different human culture is very difficult for another human. Now imagine an alien, with no prior idea on how human cultures work, or even on how humans think, act, reproduce, eat, or defecate, attempting to infiltrate society to get information, or simply observe. It might be the only way to go, if their goals was simply to observe human society, but it would still be a nearly impossible task to do without getting noticed, and if all they wanted were a few human research subjects, an unnecessary one.

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You give the human race too much for capability to respond to any alien threat, especially since the human race is nowhere near united, particularly in the political area


I am certianly not saying we would win. In fact i think we would be completely dostroyed. But that been said, eventually the governments would use nukes and completely destroy us, the planet, and im sure at least some of them. Therefor, knowing the umpredictablility of a species like humans (as i am sure you will agree, we are) they would do the smart option, and go stealth. To do things slowly and less recognisably, is smart, showing it to be thought out and more advanced, than sitting in the skies saying we will kill you all. If there ship was destroyed, then so would they be.


Read my post above. If they realize how unpredictable humans are, how would going stealth improve their situation, or even work? Humans would be much less predictable on an individual or even town-sized them, than in dealing with a government.

Furthermore, I changed my post so that it was no longer just "give us humans or we will shoot you;" diplomacy for humans would be in order as well. Like I mentioned early, if they didn't mention that the humans would be used in experiments, they would probably get a million volunteers to go up and visit with them.

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not to mention getting your alien operatives down onto the world without some form of detection by one of the myriad radar nets of the world's military powers

UFO's are seen all the time in the skies, including landings. This doesnt mean they are extra-terrestrial in origin, but that is beside the point. The people that see these things (who speak out) get labelled as crazy and get ridiculled, even by friends and family. So i dont think it would be very hard at all.
And these things get picked up by military quite often too, there are many well known reports of this.


That still doesn't help the fact that the aliens would know next to nothing about how humans act, or human society works - the type of things you need to know to infiltrate. What would probably happen is that even if your alien somehow managed to disguise him/herself as a human, they would get grabbed by the police for doing something humans do not normally do, like going to the bathroom on someone's lawn, or wandering around in the street and getting hit by a car.

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aliens simply to ask for a few humans, or threaten for them

As i said above, the ramifications for this could easily be alot worse. If people found out that the governments of the world cooperated with aliens, and willfully gave them their citizens, there would be riots around the world, governments would be overthrown, and general upheaval on a global bases.. There goes society... So i dont think the governments would agree to that, knowing what would happen. Of coarse, thats not to say they wouldnt, this is just IMO.
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As I mentioned earlier, the above is not necessarily true. You would probably have many volunteers, and if the aliens simply wanted to get a bearing on how humans work, or what we are made of, they could simply offer to trade for some blood samples, or a few human carcasses.
AlienChild
1. aliens are not coming here, they r here
2.they live among us, I can feel it...
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