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Sqratch
Has anyone heard about the Battle of LA? I don't remember if i read it on this forum or just read it straight of rense.com but please check this article out. Its quite an interesting read, but kinda long.

basically during the early hours in south LA there was a UFO and every body panicked. The military shot at it but nothing happened.

Check it out Here

Colbert Nation
QUOTE(Sqratch @ Aug 30 2005, 07:36 AM) [snapback]817449[/snapback]
Has anyone heard about the Battle of LA? I don't remember if i read it on this forum or just read it straight of rense.com but please check this article out. Its quite an interesting read, but kinda long.

basically during the early hours in south LA there was a UFO and every body panicked. The military shot at it but nothing happened.

Check it out Here



Any photos of this event besides the ones taken of numerous spot lights pointed at a weather balloon?
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]1622378[/snapback]
Any photos of this event besides the ones taken of numerous spot lights pointed at a weather balloon?


Since the UFO was first detected by radar from over 100 miles from Los Angeles, and from these images, it is clear the UFO is not a weather balloon.


http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BOLA1.html
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(skyeagle409 @ Apr 10 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]1622395[/snapback]
Since the UFO was first detected by radar from over 100 miles from Los Angeles, and from these images, it is clear the UFO is not a weather balloon.
http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BOLA1.html


Looks like a hot air balloon...


US Army Defends West Coast from Weather Balloon (February 24, 1942)
Today in Odd History, the United States Army mistook a weather balloon off the coast of Southern California for a Japanese bomber and attacked. Thus began "The Battle of Los Angeles."
In February 1942, the country was still reeling from the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The West Coast was particularly afraid of another Japanese assault; housing prices had dropped dramatically as people moved away from "invasion beaches."

They did have some cause for concern. On the 23rd, a Japanese sub had shelled an oil field in Southern California. On the 24th, naval intelligence issued an alert, stating that an attack was imminent. When an unidentified radar signature was discovered 120 miles off the coast of Los Angeles, California, in the early hours of February 25, anti-aircraft batteries went to Green Alert — "ready to fire."

The target drifted in toward the coast. As it approached, the regional controller ordered a blackout. Reports of "enemy planes" began pouring in. Finally, a balloon carrying a red flare was spotted over Santa Monica. Four antiaircraft batteries opened fire, and the sky above Los Angeles "erupted like a volcano."

For the next three hours, madness reigned. "Swarms" of planes and balloons were reported, flying at every elevation and speed. Over 1,400 rounds of anti-aircraft ammunition were fired from the ground, but the mysterious enemy suffered no losses, despite reports that four planes had been shot down, and that one had crashed in flames in Hollywood. American fighter planes did circle the city, but quickly returned to their home base. With a limited number of fighters available, the Army preferred to keep them in check until the size and direction of the attack could be ascertained.

People all over Southern California watched the display, as searchlights and anti-aircraft rounds lit up the night sky. As the rounds burst, the smoke reflected the lights and added to the confusion. Sanity returned at dawn. Streets were discovered to have been damaged, not by Japanese bombs, but by American artillery. Three civilians had been trampled, three others died in car accidents as they sped through the darkened streets, and there was at least one death from heart failure.

The Navy denied that there had been any enemy planes over LA. The Army, on the other hand, after initially agreeing that there had been a false alarm, interviewed witnesses and then stated that there had been up to 5 planes, and that they were either commercial planes sent from enemy bases in Mexico, or light planes launched from Japanese subs, and that either way, their obvious purpose had been to spy out the locations of American anti-aircraft batteries.

The press reacted strongly to the lack of agreement between the Armed Forces. The New York Times said that if the batteries had fired upon "nothing at all, as [the Navy] implies, it [was] a sign of expensive incompetence and jitters. If the batteries were firing on real planes, . . . as [the Army] declares, why were they completely ineffective? Why did no American planes go up to engage them, or even to identify them?"

At the end of the war, the Japanese denied that they had launched any sort of an attack against the US on the night in question, although Japanese planes launched from subs had flown over Seattle at a later date, and Japanese balloon bombs have been discovered much farther inland. Weather balloons, however, had been released near Los Angeles, and eyewitness reports have suggested that the targets were moving much too slowly to have been airplanes. The battle has also provided much fodder for UFO speculations. Whatever happened that night, it provided further impetus for the internment of Japanese-Americans, 120,000 of whom would be moved to prison camps before war's end, in one of the bleakest chapters in America's human-rights history

Source: http://www.newsoftheodd.com/content/view/205/29
Unlimited
It makes no sense that it was a weather balloon....it would be the governments weather balloon. so they would fire on it?...ps why werent they able to shoot a balloon down?....
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 10 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]1622420[/snapback]
It makes no sense that it was a weather balloon....it would be the governments weather balloon. so they would fire on it?...ps why werent they able to shoot a balloon down?....



I give up...why couldn't they shoot it down?
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]1622415[/snapback]
Looks like a hot air balloon...
US Army Defends West Coast from Weather Balloon (February 24, 1942)



I do believe the US Army once claimed that a weather balloon was involved in the Roswell incident as well! That is, until 1994, when the military admitted that no weather balloon as involved after all. The fact that object hovered at times and flew along at speeds beyond that of typical balloons, not to mention it withstood repeated hits from "AAA" shells, seems to indicate the UFO wasn't a weather balloon either.
Vague
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1622423[/snapback]
I give up...why couldn't they shoot it down?



Because it was made of unknown super-duty materials.
Unlimited
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1622423[/snapback]
I give up...why couldn't they shoot it down?


because it wasnt a balloon....
Colbert Nation
Alien Spaceship being shot down?
Colbert Nation
They could not shoot it down because the entire incident never happened...it's an urban legend complete with FAKE La Times Newspaper Cover story and pictures...
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]1622436[/snapback]
Alien Spaceship being shot down?


Apparently, the Army was unable to shoot down that UFO over Los Angeles with over 1000 rounds of anti-aircraft ammo, even as it hovered over the city. Firing on UFOs is nothing knew as indicated in a science book of the U.S. Air Force Academy.

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INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II
CHAPTER ***III
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS
DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY

33.4 HUMAN FEAR AND HOSTILITY

"...More recently, on 24 July 1957 Russian anti-aircraft batteries on the Kouril Islands opened fire on UFO's. Although all Soviet anti-aircraft batteries on the Islands were in action, no hits were made. The UFO's were luminous and moved very fast. We too have fired on UFO's.

"About ten o'clock one morning, a radar site near a fighter base picked up a UFO doing 700 mph. The UFO then slowed to 100 mph, and two F-86's were scrambled to intercept. Eventually one F-86 closed on the UFO at about 3,000 feet altitude. The UFO began to accelerate away but the pilot still managed to get within 500 yards of the target for a short period of time. It was definitely saucer-shaped."

"As the pilot pushed the F-86 at top speed, the UFO began to pull away. When the range reached 1,000 yards, the pilot armed his guns and fired in an attempt to down the saucer. He failed, and the UFO pulled away rapidly, vanishing in the distance."

Colbert Nation
QUOTE(skyeagle409 @ Apr 10 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]1622445[/snapback]
Apparently, the Army was unable to shoot down that UFO over Los Angeles with over 1000 rounds of anti-aircraft ammo, even as it hovered over the city. Firing on UFOs is nothing knew as indicated in a science book of the U.S. Air Force Academy.


Wait...so first you don't believe what the Govt has to say because they are "covering it up", and now you quote a book from the USAF Academy....pick a side skyeagle, we're at war.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1622451[/snapback]
Wait...so first you don't believe what the Govt has to say because they are "covering it up", and now you quote a book from the USAF Academy....pick a side skyeagle, we're at war.


If you had done your homework, you would have found that this Air Force science book was "off-limits" to the public. Only after it was leaked to the public, was it taken off the shelve at the Air Force Academy.

Sometimes, it helps to open the door to see what's on the other side.

Colbert Nation
QUOTE(skyeagle409 @ Apr 10 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1622458[/snapback]
If you had done your homework, you would have found that this Air Force science book was "off-limits" to the public. Only after it was leaked to the public, was it taken off the shelve at the Air Force Academy.

Sometimes, it helps to open the door to see what's on the other side.


I prefer to guess whats on the other side...or maybe toss random insults at the person on the other side of the door...that way I can stay seated.

Also I can't help but "notice" that you are posting from an U.S. Government assigned IP Address....seriously are you trash talking your employer?
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1622462[/snapback]
I prefer to guess whats on the other side...or maybe toss random insults at the person on the other side of the door...that way I can stay seated.

Also I can't help but "notice" that you are posting from an U.S. Government assigned IP Address....seriously are you trash talking your employer?


The person on the other side could very well be a teacher, bringing along some 'books of reality' for you! You tried to debunk something without knowing the rest of the story and someone just let you know that you've just made a serious mistake in doing so.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1622462[/snapback]
I prefer to guess whats on the other side...or maybe toss random insults at the person on the other side of the door...that way I can stay seated.

Also I can't help but "notice" that you are posting from an U.S. Government assigned IP Address....seriously are you trash talking your employer?


There have been generals and government intelligence officials who have indicated the government is covering up what we know about UFOs.


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xstortionist
Yea I never beleived this whole Battle of LA...if it were a battle there would have been witnesses and they would have talked about it while this was all happening...like queerbert nation stated....it's an urban legend.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(xstortionist @ Apr 10 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]1622667[/snapback]
like queerbert nation stated....it's an urban legend.

Ouch. Being a little nasty aren't you.
xstortionist
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Apr 10 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]1622680[/snapback]
Ouch. Being a little nasty aren't you.


what? queerbert is a nick name for him being different (differing from what is usually posted on these forums...go look the word up please). See you people just create answers without thinking....please before you make assumptions get the facts on bankruptcy...you could save more than you actually think.
STIX
I suspect that if a UFO did fly over LA during WW2 that it would be shot at.
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(xstortionist @ Apr 10 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]1622687[/snapback]
what? queerbert is a nick name for him being different (differing from what is usually posted on these forums...go look the word up please). See you people just create answers without thinking....please before you make assumptions get the facts on bankruptcy...you could save more than you actually think.


Thanks for explaining what a queerbert is...do your parents know you are a homo?


HOMO
NOUN:
A member of the genus Homo, which includes the extinct and extant species of humans.
STIX
did you know you're all dudes?












yeah, thats right. Dudes.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(STIX @ Apr 10 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1622722[/snapback]
I suspect that if a UFO did fly over LA during WW2 that it would be shot at.


That is exactly what happened over Los Angeles in 1942, and there were some deaths that were the result of collateral damage caused by the Army's vained attempt to down the UFO. Over 1400 rounds of anti-aircraft ammo were fired directly at the UFO and nothing happened.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]1622378[/snapback]
Any photos of this event besides the ones taken of numerous spot lights pointed at a weather balloon?


they shot more than 1400 rounds at a stationary weather balloon? hitting it and nothing happened? wake up and smell the coffee already.'

if our military can't bring down a weather balloon with over 1400 rounds of ammo then they are pathetic .

Moro
Because of a well-organized alert system, the whole California southern section was searching the night skies in a matter of minutes. What they saw were beaming searchlights illuminating the night sky, all of them converging on one thing-a UFO. A similar scene would be repeated later during the The Norwood Searchlight Incident albeit, on a smaller scale. The beams of light would soon be accompanied by tracer fire from anti-aircraft artillery, all of the rounds aiming at the invading craft. The giant UFO would take direct hit after hit, yet without damage.

According to newspaper reports, eyewitnesses described the sight of the UFO like a "surreal, hanging, magic lantern."
It seems to me that it looked nothing like an air balloon.

lol it just seems they always want to shove the air balloon equation in their to try and cover up the truth.
Unlimited
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 10 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1622462[/snapback]
I prefer to guess whats on the other side...or maybe toss random insults at the person on the other side of the door...that way I can stay seated.

Also I can't help but "notice" that you are posting from an U.S. Government assigned IP Address....seriously are you trash talking your employer?


how would you know his IP address was us govt?...I cant help but notice yours is as well.....
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I just found something, regarding the subject of the L.A. searchlight incident.

It was the 352nd Coast Artillery Searchlight Battalion. They evidently held a reunion in 2002, at the Fort MacArthur site. The army base was de-commisioned in the 1970's, but a museum was established. Nonethless, here is a group of veterans, and their families.

http://www.ftmac.org/352slbtn.htm

also-

restoring searchlights-

http://www.ftmac.org/GElight.htm


re-creating the event for the reunion-

http://www.ftmac.org/AirRaid06.htm


"After the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, additional 155mm and 3-inch anti-aircraft guns were added to the defenses of Los Angeles and a new fortification program hurried toward completion. This included the addition of Battery Paul D. Bunker located at White Point, and another unnamed 16-inch battery at Bolsa Chica beach that was never completed. These batteries were armed with two 16-inch barbette mount guns enclosed under large concrete portals. These were the largest and most powerful seacoast defense guns ever deployed by the United States and had a maximum range of about 26 miles.

To reinforce these batteries, three new 6-inch batteries were also built. Battery Harry J. Harrison at Bolsa Chica, Battery Barnes at Long Point, and Battery 241 located on the Upper Reservation. These guns were protected by 6-inch thick “teardrop” shaped metal shields, and looked like they would be more at home on a warship rather than on a hilltop overlooking the Pacific Ocean. Additionally, more than a dozen 90mm and 37mm guns were installed around the harbor area. As these new weapons were installed, the older guns were deactivated and shortly after 1945, all of Fort MacArthur’s big guns were cutup for scrap. Fort MacArthur continued to serve as an induction and separation center throughout the 1940s and 1950s".






Colbert Nation
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 10 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1623029[/snapback]
how would you know his IP address was us govt?...I cant help but notice yours is as well.....



Oh really limited, and where exactly might i be?
Unlimited
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 11 2007, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1623078[/snapback]
Oh really limited, and where exactly might i be?


I believe your on an airforce base maybe luke?....ps does your commander know your debunking on here?
outsider75
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1623412[/snapback]
I believe your on an airforce base maybe luke?....ps does your commander know your debunking on here?



probably pay him to debunk on here. poor fool never really looked into this before jumping in the water.
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 11 2007, 04:34 AM) [snapback]1623412[/snapback]
I believe your on an airforce base maybe luke?....ps does your commander know your debunking on here?



Luke AFB...YUMA????

Who said I was in the USAF?

Unlimited
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 12 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]1624687[/snapback]
Luke AFB...YUMA????

Who said I was in the USAF?


noone did...in the latest threads i was reading; you say your typing from the pentagon?....I can believe that...
Colbert Nation
QUOTE(limited @ Apr 12 2007, 05:26 AM) [snapback]1625043[/snapback]
noone did...in the latest threads i was reading; you say your typing from the pentagon?....I can believe that...



I'm actually in Nevada...to many liberals in DC
outsider75
still just another goverment debunker.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 12 2007, 05:44 PM) [snapback]1625889[/snapback]
I'm actually in Nevada...to many liberals in DC


you do know that Stephen Colbert is liberal right? and that his alter ego on tv is actually poking fun of republicans for the most part right ?
Unlimited
QUOTE(Colbert Nation @ Apr 12 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1625889[/snapback]
I'm actually in Nevada...to many liberals in DC


ya groom lakes pretty this time of year...just stay out of the underground tunnels...I hear theirs monsters down there?
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