I would like to make it clear that I am only talking about extremist religious people here, not real religious people who have tolerance for others, and there beliefs, and for who they are.

The Nazis and other evil dictatorships and regimes have all persecuted people for having different believes than there own, or because they where different to them.

If you look at religious extremists and there beliefs and the Nazis beliefs, you see identical things happening and radiating from there twisted mentalities, for instance freedom of thought was not encouraged outside of what the Nazis taught you in nazi Germany, if you look at Christianity Islam and Jewish extremism the same thing is done, your told to blindly believe what the so called leaders and elders tell them to believe without question, even if it goes against what common sense and natural logic tells you.

In extremist Islam you can be beheaded for opposing the views of the people who dictate these oppressive ideologies. The whole Nazi idea was to oppress the beliefs of anyone that did not agree with there view of the world, the Nazis killed or publicly humiliated those who sympathised with there accused enemies, they gassed or shot them to death. the Christians used to use and still do in some parts of the world kill people at the stake as being devil worshipers. In many Christian towns where extremism is ripe if your not a Christian you are bullied out of town.

The Nazis believed that they where superior to everyone else, most extremists believe they are above everyone else and condemn them as evil.

The Nazis burnt books that expressed other ideas than there own, extremist Jews, Christians, Hindus, and Muslims do the same today, and have done from the time they came about, such as burning the Koran, and Jewish texts, Muslims have burnt the bible, Christians extremists burn Harry Potter and Lord of the ring books as being against them, its no different from what the nazis did, they wanted to destroy what they saw as opposition and dangerous thought structures that threatened there way of life.

Many religious extremists look at others of another religions as scum, which is exactly what the Nazis did.

The Nazis used propaganda to convince people they where right, religious extremists do this all the time its the biggest tool they have.

The Nazis used fear to terrify people into submission, which is what you can see all across the southern states of America in extremists churches, all over the world, you also see it in extremists Mosques and synagogues.

Many extremists Christians in the deep south of America are racists, the KKK is strongly connected to extremist Christianity, many of these people have pictures of a blue eyed blond hared Jesus on there walls. The Nazis and the KKK meet regularly, and are both obsessed with the Nordic white races, and think they are purer than darker skinned people, all the time forgetting that Jesus was from the middle east forgetting Jesus was Jewish.

The nazis wanted people to be like brainless sheep, and never to question there rules, which is just what all extremist religious beliefs instil in its followers today.

The nazis where war hungry people, most people involved with religious extremism are also war obsessed and support it.

Both the Nazis and extremists Christians and Mulism in history have had the idea of bulldozing there way around the world to inflict there beliefs and laws on others (the crusades)

Extremist religions cause people to be put into pigeon holes, and to form groups and oppose others, which causes conflict, the Nazis did exactly the same thing they stamped labels on others to demonize them as un-pure, and dehumanise them.

Is it just me or do others see the disturbing similarities here?

All the best
Faeden

Good points Faeden Fanatical extremism is the same everywhere - no matter what guise it takes. Whether motivated by religion, politics, power, egotism or what have you, the result is the same

People say getting rid of religion will stop terrorism, and it's a nice idea. But there will always be extremists who are out for themselves alone. And while religion is the vehicle they may use to promote their extremism it is by no means the only one, and getting rid of it will not get rid of the problem. They'll just find a new vehicle

Regards, PA

Yeah i agree extremism of anything really is a bad thing. Sadly i think its something that will always be though because so many humans are ignorant and will always take their views and selfish crap too far. Its like teenage rebellion too, the more a big deal is made about something the more people are going to want to either get involved in it and check it out or it force them to go the complete opposite direction.

it's not just you they might do it for different reasons, but they do it all the same.




that true.

but then what will get rid of the problem???

If only there were an easy answer to that one.

THIS Is a good start, I saw it last night, and it really brings home the fact that all religions are based on the same good principles, I strongly advise anyone to watch this, its screened all around the world. And no Christian, Pagan, Muslim, Jew or any other religious person can argue with it.

All the best
Faeden

seems like a great idea, I sure hope a lot of people will watch, I know I will.

Quit feeding the fish!

I think the problem is many people do not recognise that they are extremists and over look it, and because they have convinced them selves that they are doing it for there God its justifiable, when in fact its just plane evil ignorance.

All the best
Faeden

faeden,

it is important to understand group structures in relation to how and why they are formed.

the "us vs them" approach is a very basic way to build cohesion within a group. this is especially true of a group that wishes to expand.

the more radical the group, the more closed it will be to outsiders. the more polarized its members will be. The group dynamics themselves will fuel the increasing polarization and isolation.

perspective is also very important to consider in group structure. people join groups for a variety of reasons that revolve around benefit to the individual. the old saying of "you were not there" is vitally important to understanding this process of group membership.

these groups form for a variety of reasons that begin with some sort of percieved "difference". "person X has...." leads to "person X is a...." followed with an overvaluation of the identified attribute, leading to "all of those...."

You want to change it, stop it? the answer lies in education or re-engineering humans.

Hyper very well spoken!!!


if you don't mind I'd like to add thh on top of reeducating humans which is a great place to start I think if we could just be brave enough to step away from our fallacies that would change history. Its long over due for the human race to do something amazing.If we could just get movement towards basic life principles over the masses love affair with mental constructions and the social conventions that come from them (now it would be one thing if these constructs were true but they are not they are fallacies) when we have false beliefs we create social situations (extremest religions) which produce dysfunction and threaten the survival of the human race.
The greatest interest we should have as humans is life and for convience sake this is "Gods" greatest interest to although many claim otherwise because of that it allows many to waste it with no regard. Humanism in its purest sense would never allow the destroying of life only organized religion allows for this tragedy, Namaste sheri

Hi Hyper

I agree with what your saying, but you talk as if its impossible for these things to be corrected, I hope and have faith that people will one day begin to realise that its OK to have groups, but the groups around there groups are just the same as them.

That documentary that I put a link up about has a atheist on it, and he said he doesn’t believe in God because most people that believe it do evil in the name of there God, and think that God is evil or act as if he/she is, he said the only time he would believe in God but not waiting for some messiah or God to come down and save us all, but that humans have a change of heart, and started putting right the wrongs that we have done, its then he said he could believe that God is in fact real, and that God has finally come down and put rights our wrongs, when we our self make the effort, and all the others involved with the documentary scientists, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists all agreed with him, in the sense that humans need to have a change of heart before God will help them and the world as a whole.

All the best
Faeden