I am a true believer in the bodies ability to create certain metaphysical events. I hear people talking about ghosts and I have never been able to rouse one up. I go to the places where they are said to be and nothing. Although once I did get something in some photos and the subject later died, but that would be the closest thing I could relate too. I wouldn't mind meeting up with one. I actually would rather enjoy it, I think.

if you are truly that interested that i suggest u begin practicing automatic writing... at first ull suck but stick with it and within a few weeks/months u will be communicating with dead people like u never imagined, they will be able to answer all ur questions as to why u cant see them ect. i started automatic writing and now i could almost claim to be a full on medium, or channeler. 1 word of advice watch out for demons or "negative" energy beings they will lie to u and u will after time be able to sense the evil energy, i can hear them in my head at this point and since i have begun my over all "psychic" abilitie has increased i see, hear, feel, sense stuff people wouldn't imagine.

http://www.totse.com/en/religion/new_age_b...s/channelz.html

btw this is a FASCINATING website i sugest every1 browse i have learned much from it

the most i have learned however is from myself, and from spirits, daladh & tiddlo... and recently from my "higher self" if u want to call it that i can now channel my quote unquote soul. i leave the rest to you guys and i hope i have made some impact on your person

I would say try to at least see the waves and energy sources in the air...then you can try seeing ghosts...you can ask them to come to your house...but i really dont like having ghost experiences esspecially when i am alone i bet one will happen to you soon

Well what you do is visit your local cow pasture, lift a patty and pop one of them mushrooms growing beneath it into your mouth.

this is a 100% sure way to see something metaphysical.

I haven't done that for a while. Metaphysical is not necessarily what I remember being. Just a higher plane of some kind though.

I like you have always wanted to see a ghost, but never have. i have always been able to feel them though, but did not realise i could feel them until a few days ago when (through a new friend) i visited her father's haunted house. The emotional feeling of guilt, coupled with a chill in the air or around me tends to mean i can feel one, although I don't know why it feels like guilt. My new friend can see ghosts all the time so it was interesting that i could feel them, and then have her affirm to me that one is there.

Moe feels them too. Aint it funny how they are actually quite warm and fuzzy to the touch?

What about Trolls,do you belive in them?

Personally,I need some proof to belive in anything paranormal.
I used to belive in EVERYTHING when I was a kid,now it takes a little...*hrm*...alot more to impress me.

Trolls arent paranormal. They are just tall, lumpy and mind numbingly stupid. No one ever called Shaq paranormal before.

I've met a few in my days. Just kidding.
No, I think trolls are storybook characters.

I know that energies are all around us and they can manifest themselves in different ways. I have been in many locations said to have ghosts hoping I would have an experience. But all I get is disappointed.

You have had no experiences and therefore no proof that ghosts exist. Yet despite this you continue to think that there are energies all around us. You cannot know if there is nothing to suggest so.

I kind of believe in ghosts, but you must have quite strong faith in them if you believe in them despite no experiences.

Hello old Eddie boy. glad to see my favorite skeptic is at it again.
You know how there are so many people that have had experiences seeing or feeling them. Well I think that the propensity for ghosts to be around is so great that I'm willing to take a risk and say that there is probably something to it. You remember I'm not skeptical like you when it comes to this forum.

There are energies all around us u would have to be an extremely ignorant and close minded person not to realize what is right infront of ur face there is energy inside everything, even dirt.

and saying he has had no experiences is blasphemy everyone has had experiences weather they realize them or not. It could be anything from something as simple as a "feeling" to an odd sensation anywhere on their body or anywhere near their body for that matter. and going to places where ghosts are and not getting experiences, first of all you probably did get a sensation of some form weather it was a "leave me alone" from the ghosts or it was a "eff off" or a "i <3" u its just a matter of how willing u are to actually paying attention to these sensations you receive. secondly u probably get more ghosts sensations in a place like ur house where u r able to relax, a place where u sleep, in ur dreams or nightmares. the easiest way for a ghost to communicate to us, or easiest way for a demon to communicate to us is through our dreams.

These explanations might seem boring, but they are experiences of ghosts, a spiritual entity that no longer lives or a demon an evil entity that never did live.

if the things u want are pictures with ghost apparitions inside them or ghosts to throw things about a room you will probably never get them. ghosts dont care what u want, and they are people like u or i, they have feelings and they can get hurt, or be happy due to the result of something u do, going to a haunted house and expecting the ghost to preform tricks for u is retarded, before u ask ghosts to roll over and fetch i would first find out what ghosts or spirits are, what they do, what they dont do, what they want, why r the houses haunted, and what r u doing to arouse stimulation from a ghost, if u r afraid of the ghost they will sense this and gain energy from u... fear is an energy just like love envy hate or jealousy...

i hope u read this and absorb the information into ur head, it might assist u if u r willing to let it, being close minded is the last thing in the world that I want to do but if u want to be close minded i suggest u stop worry about ghosts and be close minded on other things (not saying u r close minded but i know there are people reading this that are close minded)

like my friend Alex told me...... Ignorance is Bliss....

Umm... NURSE!

Lol it was funny that u took what i said out of context but yes that is true LoL however not just evil and u probably cant do it i can already sense a negativity twards what i am saying from u

::edit::
the greatest enemy of knowledge is ignorance ......i see from ur quote section u think this is all an illusion of knowledge? makes me think what type of ignorant close minded person u r

What makes you believe they exist? The 'proof' on the internet? I don't know, please tell me.



I am actually laughing. I see no point in continuing this argument with you. You are ridiculously close minded, far more so than me. It is like arguing with a brick wall. You won't ever accept the opposite.
Before you say the same goes for me, I would, I accept proof.

I am not reading the rest of your post as I cant be bothered and I imagine it is of the same tone as your first paragraph.

I read this though:


You are absolutely right. I hope that you eventually overcome it.

I used to be ignorant, LoL trust me i used to not believe in anything other then what my parents told me existed, i am glad for u if u do accept proof but as of now there isn't any real "proof" that can be shown to a person who initially denys its possiblitie... although in a world where scientists have learned that time slows down as you increase speed, that particles called Tachyons putative class of particles which able to travel faster than the speed of light, they actually arrive at their destination before they leave, exist and that all living forms contain an energy which scientists call bio-energy exists. you are going to sit here and tell me i am ignorant and then say


hahahaha


hahahaha omg u are such an ignorant hypocrite i hope u overcome ur ignorance long enough to read this post and see what an idiot u truly are, i feel bad for u at the same time wondering what a horrible life u must have had to accumulate the person now.

I love this! You are using ever single blind believe argument in the book! I didn't think this was possible.
For the record, I DON'T DENY THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EXISTENCE OF GHOSTS. I already bloody said I kind of believe in them. I believe in things without proof, stop generalising in your ignorance.



In that paragraph, I got to there and then stopped. There is no scientific proof so scientific terminology should not be used.



I actually have a very good life. Ah man, this is too much.
You are so ignorant, you refuse to believe anything you hold to be true is false. I however would.
I have had a really good childhood and am enjoying my teenage years, drink party girls and friends are a good mixture.
I am not the idiot here...

Resorting to flaming, no thanks. If you can't come up with an argument then call me an idiot. Thats what I see quite a few people doing.

Edit: Hey guys, I just enjoy coming on here occasionally and winding you blind believers up . Let's keep this friendly.

i agree and i will say it now i get worked up when people put me or others down,
and i can tell u for a fact ghosts exist i talk to them all the time.... laugh if u want....


i am a medium, or channeler

there are a few others like i on this forum in the other thread "Is there any spirit mediums on this forum? " and as far as the "i agree and i will say it now i get worked up when people put me or others down" yes i put u down, fight fire with fire they say, its wrong we all do it, and i appologies even though i doubt u will apologies. It really doesn't matter lol
Tachyons have been scientifically proved i would not have even brought them up had they since i have no true interest in them

you missed my point anyways

i was trying to tell u about the scientific realizations we have had and soon i believe within the next 150 years ghosts or psychic abilites are going to become much more at ease with people

where as i will be in the majoritie as far as beliefs in paranormal

but i will most likely be dead by then so for now i just have to stand up to people like u who criticise others for their "raw" beleive as u put it out to be.

even though my belief is backed by physical proof i can allow the spirit to manipulate my flesh to the point where they can use me to communicate to others and i have learnd MUCH... however i still have MUCH to learn yet, i know u would not be on these forums if u were not atleast slighly interested,

if this were true we would not be argueing about beliefs

and i am not generalising, there is nothing general about u being an ass and then coming back and saying u do "kind of" believe in "them". and then the "I believe in things without proof" if u believe in things without proof why are u accusing me of believing in things without proof quote blindly
you had no idea that i am very easily cappable of talking to spirits south satira 1417 south rd

If I talk about this with you then I will probably get banned.



Probably not, I may not have read it. If I did miss your point then I am sure it was good.



Yeah, maybe if there is some actual proof of either.



If you charge people to see you do this then I think you could well be a con artist.



For god sake no! Just because I believe in some things without proof does not mean that I believe in all things that have nothing to prove their existence!




I am happy with being an ass if I am an ass because of the way I have spoken to you.
I never came back and said it, I said it right at the beginning!
I do kind of believe in them mrs channeler.




pffft...

does that mean i was right lol? and i dont intent to charge anyone in fact i dont plan to stay a medium i simply plan to use it to communicate to spirits to help others and more specifically me XD lol their(the spirits that is) are just people and anyone can learn to talk to them... even u
(some arent ghosts some are demons unfortunately) ;(
the last quote i focused to what i feel from u and i talked to a spirit who gave me this address i am curious weather it is right partially right or entirely wrong humor me and the spirit

south santira south road 1717

No, I don't suffer from delusions.



Oh that was meant to be my address! , well you have just conclusively proved that you can't speak to ghosts as I live in London, England.

lol what did u think it was lmao but u can think as u want that was the first time i tried to talk to a random ghost from a random person over the internet it was a very evil feeling i got from it maybe it was a demon maybe u r just a very evil person who knows lol

i proved nothing and i do not suffer from delusions
you once again prove to me and everyone else reading this u r a
hypocritical close minded person

"No, I don't suffer from delusions." i would see u as one of those ppl that if everyone (analogy for u) wore cloths and u did not they would all be wrong and u would be right i dont know why u come to these forums to piss people off u r a miserable person lol

that meant something significant and now ur holding information from me only u can tell me wtf it means

u were surprised like u thought it meant something else, what was that?

Well I am not evil, maybe your ghost is.



There are no examples here of hipocrisy.

You may want to look up the definiton of a hypocrite.

I am certainly not miserable! I am known for being cheerful. It is fun annoying people like you because it is so easy. Your arguments are terrible and you always say things like:
You are a hypocrite, you are ignorant, naive, you are scared to believe.

It entertains me no end. A couple of believers have really good arguments, shame they aren't around at the moment though.

I also portray myself in an arrogant manner by straight talking. Just to give you a few more points to talk about.

Edit: I also find some of this stuff interesting. I am waiting for some proof, but it never seems to come...

i never said u were scared to believe XD
i bet u r though u pointed it out i think ur right
i think u already believe but u hold this hard outer stubbornness but inside u know what a ass u r and u feel like s about it

u didn't answer my question

and u r a hypocrite one minute u believe in ghosts the next minute everyone is having delusions i hope u tell the other mediums that they are having delusions too, since everyone is effed up in the head except u lol

Wow. You are all so mind numbingly brilliant in this thread!

Moe is smitten. Truly.


*swoons*

lmao! I never said you did! I said people like you say that... When I said your, I was talking about the blind believers in general.
Oh silly you!



Aha! Let's make an analogy, I believe in aliens, but I don't believe they fly about in spaceships in our orbit. I believe they are little microscopic worms or simple life forms.

Get it?

I think you will also find that I said I kind of believe in ghosts. I am somewhat an agnostic when it comes to ghosts.

Unlucky again, read carefully and then make comments. Don't just attack me and misunderstand things, please. It wastes time.



I never said that...
I said mediums...

I am going to jump in, say my piece and get out again.

I never gave the Paranormal a second thought (Though I found it entertaining) till I got married, moved into an old House, and had 4 kids. Thats when the spooky stuff started for me, and I had to read a lot of books, and compare with my own experiences before I believed. I am 51 years old now and the only thing I know for sure is that I don't know. But the search for the answers keeps my mind active.

If I understand the abilitys of an empathic person, they would not lash out with hurtful WORDS, because they would feel the hurt them selves. Some of the nicest people on these forums are empathic to others feeling.

Jim the crackhead stands on street corners, yelling at things that Moe cannot see. Would you consider this to be a paranormal sighting?

lol i m sorry all mediums are effed up in the head

when we break it down everyone is a medium in the end but i assume u mean mediums of ghosts or "delusions" as u call them which would imply that everyone involved in that equation is effed up in the head such as the ghosts u r insulting, the people who talk to their dead relatives or dead family members

people who break down in tears because they are able to say one last thing to their loved ones who have passed from this world

you are insulting those people not only me

the dead grandma and the granddaughter

if u r going to insult people leave them out of it.

i hope someday u will allow more positive thoughts to fill ur mind. this conversation is pointless if u already have a biased opinion
i wouldn't be surprised if u were racist too

which goes to peako on this forum and undeaddoll so u are calling us 3 people (atleast) effed up
its not an argument anymore its just u being biased and stubbornly ignorant
i said good day

see...I knew you were just looking for back up

very sad...



and if you don't know what I'm referring to, take a look see over at the mediums thread in ghosts and hauntings...

I used to always see ghosts when I was coming off an acid trip....

...oh wait....

[quote=Desty Nova,Sep 2 2005, 11:50 PM]I never said that...
I said mediums...[/quote]
which goes to peako on this forum and undeaddoll so u are calling us 3 people (atleast) effed up
its not an argument anymore its just u being biased and stubbornly ignorant
i said good day
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PLEASE use proper spelling and grammar... "I".... "YOU"... "ARE"... you get taken more seriously when you don't write like a 12-year old...

I suppose some people would take him/her more seriously...

To speak of yourself in third person does wonders to your credability.