Cadetak
Oct 29 2005, 10:10 PM
I think its more than likely Atlantis didnt exist persay. Another City like area could have been and most likely has been buried beneath the sea.
Three big Hurricanes have hit the gulf area of the U.S. in a short time. I find it very possible. Now was Atlantis ruled by space alien gold miners with phaser guns? NO!
There is only one mystery to Atlantis yet to solve and that Is his: Who rules Atlantis? Aquaman or the Sub-Mariner?...the world may never know...
Cadetak
Oct 29 2005, 10:12 PM
The 6th Day? The movie were Arnold is a clone, but he doesnt know it to the end?
Side Note: 2 Arnolds are always better than one.
meyleunah
Oct 30 2005, 12:17 AM
I remember watching a T.V. program in the mid 80's that showed maps divers had brought up from the site. The maps were the land formation of the Earth at that time. All the land was conected. When the Atlantis maps were studied against our current maps, the land measurements were nearly identical. Thus, the inhabitants of Atlantis were of superior intelligence...
Dante The Hunter
Oct 30 2005, 12:49 PM
a lot of people believe we have been wiped out b4 and returned anf given other chances by 'higher beings' or sumfin, a dunno, somehting like that
Niven
Oct 31 2005, 02:05 AM
Well, the search is interesting but i think in order to know where atlantis is you have to know how to travel to other dimensions. not in this probable earth, but in another probable earth because that is where atlantis really resides.
Its the same as where plato's ideal society resides also: in another dimension.
Cadetak
Oct 31 2005, 11:05 PM
Let me get one thing clear here... When you say "higher intelligence" do u mean phazer guns and lightsabeers or smarter than us at the time(like we used leaves they used toilet paper sort of thing)
DemonWatcher
Nov 1 2005, 02:31 AM
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 31 2005, 05:05 PM) [snapback]911222[/snapback]
Let me get one thing clear here... When you say "higher intelligence" do u mean phazer guns and lightsabeers or smarter than us at the time(like we used leaves they used toilet paper sort of thing)
i think it is the latter, but the first thing would be friggen awesome, you know.
meyleunah
Nov 1 2005, 02:45 AM
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 31 2005, 11:05 PM) [snapback]911222[/snapback]
Let me get one thing clear here... When you say "higher intelligence" do u mean phazer guns and lightsabeers or smarter than us at the time(like we used leaves they used toilet paper sort of thing)
Does anyone on this site ever know what their talking about??!!...
The fact is that Atlantis has already been found. Where have you people been?! Perhaps it is that most of you were but children in the 80's. So, Columbus discovered America...
Have you ever seen the (so called) first maps that were made of the land ay this time?
Surely all of you went to HISTORY CLASS! Well, incase you missed it there was not much on those first maps. Whyyyyyyy, because the land had just been discovered! (We thought...) Incase your not following me, the maps found at the location (believed) to be Atlantis were of a land mass that was not broken. The mathmatics used (as in measurements) were without a doubt more advanced than the peoples of that time period, not to mention the land was not one large mass when Columbus landed. He was in a BOAT was he not?!...By the By, tools were also found that were far beyond ANY humans design at that time. I'm not saying they were aliens.....(I'm not saying they were not!...) I have no idra who they were or what happened to them. But my guess is that anyone who really wants to find out will have to do alot of resurch. Did I answer your question?
DemonWatcher
Nov 1 2005, 02:51 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Oct 31 2005, 08:45 PM) [snapback]911457[/snapback]
Does anyone on this site ever know what their talking about??!!...
The fact is that Atlantis has already been found. Where have you people been?! Perhaps it is that most of you were but children in the 80's. Columbus discovered America...right?...
Have you ever seen the (so called) first maps that were made of the land ay this time?
Surely all of you HISTORY CLASS! Well, incase you missed it there was not much on those first maps. Whyyyyyyy, because the land had just been discovered! (We thought...) Incase your not following me, the maps found at the location (believed) to be Atlantis were of a land mass that was not broken. The mathmatics used (as in measurements) were without a doubt more advanced than the peoples of that time period, not to mention the land was not one large mass when Columbus landed. He was in a BOAT was he not?!...By the By, tools were also found that were faf beyond ANY humans design at that time. I'm not saying they were aliens.....(I'm not saying they were not!...) I have no idra who they were or what happened to them. But my guess is that anyone who really wants to find out will have to do alot of resurch. Did I answer your question?
actually you opened up a can of worms. I study history, that is my passion and have seen the maps you speak of. One, they still aren't sure of their authenticity; two, that is not proof of atlantis only a seafaring people, who knew how cartography very well, and yes i have seen the maps of antarctica as would have been not covered in 3 kilometer thick ice shelf. Again that is still up for debate.
meyleunah
Nov 1 2005, 03:05 AM
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actually you opened up a can of worms. I study history, that is my passion and have seen the maps you speak of. One, they still aren't sure of their authenticity; two, that is not proof of atlantis only a seafaring people, who knew how cartography very well, and yes i have seen the maps of antarctica as would have been not covered in 3 kilometer thick ice shelf. Again that is still up for debate.
You are correct. I do apologize. I should have not ran about the mouth,er-a fingers... But if you will notice I did attempt to correct myself further along in the post by noteing that it was the location (believed) to be Atlantis. Again I do apologize. I would love to hear your thoughts on the maps...where do you think they came from?
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 1 2005, 03:24 AM
Atlantis was a small island, America is a large continent. I doubt very highly that a large enough storm could submerge it completely under water without a trace like Atlantis. But after 10 K years of forgetfulness TIME could bury a civilization like Atlantis.
More and more Plato's story of Atlantis is becoming more and more plausible, however his story or evidence has yet to be verified.
I honestly believe Atlantis could have existed, even before Katrina.
DarkLordOfHELL
Nov 1 2005, 04:33 AM
the maps may have been from anywhere, from ancient seafaring peoples who held extensive knowledge of cartograhpy to the dragons of the one true god. the possiblities are literally endless because we shan't ever know the truth, only a small portion of it.
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 1 2005, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(DarkLordOfHELL @ Oct 31 2005, 11:33 PM) [snapback]911570[/snapback]
...extensive knowledge of cartograhpy to the dragons of the one true god.
What?
meyleunah
Nov 1 2005, 03:45 PM
I know what He THINKS he is trying to say... I've walked that path many moons ago
DarkLordOfHell.......I would advise you to rethink your steps! I know the pleasures of getting what you want and getting it NOW....but trust me...you will pay for it in the long-run.
AAAAANYWHOOO...back to Atlantis... who knows for sure if we will ever know anything about ANYTHING!!!!! We can theorize till we're blue in the face. We know that someone lived in that city under the sea...and thats basically it!!!
Guardsman Bass
Nov 1 2005, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Oct 31 2005, 08:24 PM) [snapback]911495[/snapback]
Atlantis was a small island, America is a large continent. I doubt very highly that a large enough storm could submerge it completely under water without a trace like Atlantis. But after 10 K years of forgetfulness TIME could bury a civilization like Atlantis.
More and more Plato's story of Atlantis is becoming more and more plausible, however his story or evidence has yet to be verified.
I honestly believe Atlantis could have existed, even before Katrina.
How exactly is Plato's story becoming 'more plausible,' when, as you mention, his story or evidence has yet to be verified? You ought to read my long post on the implausibilities of an Atlantean continent such as Plato's, earlier in this thread.
Cadetak
Nov 1 2005, 09:26 PM
So what your saying meyleunah is that Atlantis is really N. America? I like that idea. Like the Atlanteans were like Mayans or something? If it were a cookie I'd buy it.
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 2 2005, 12:21 AM
North America is Atlantis? Just a theory.
meyleunah
Nov 2 2005, 01:06 AM
Cadetak47, I never said those words! You must have mistaken someone elses words for mine. What I said was, that we know there was once a city,a city that is now under water.
I do not know any more than most people do about this city. (I joined this site to learn) I have never claimed to have any special degrees, I'm not an expert on anything. (I don't believe anyone ever is...) How do we even know this citys' name is even Atlantis? Did someone find a sign or a document or something? If not then why do we call it Atlantis...?
If so, then why the debate?
Milo
Nov 2 2005, 01:30 AM
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That is so true, But i think we need alot more proof if we are to ever believe some of the things they report about ancient history.

trouble is mainstream scientists wouldnt touch this kind of Investigation, since the science community believes Atlantis a fable, it would be disastrous for a scientists career, they'd be humiliated and ridiculed by their peers...
DemonWatcher
Nov 2 2005, 02:19 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 1 2005, 09:45 AM) [snapback]911945[/snapback]
I know what He THINKS he is trying to say... I've walked that path many moons ago
DarkLordOfHell.......I would advise you to rethink your steps! I know the pleasures of getting what you want and getting it NOW....but trust me...you will pay for it in the long-run.
AAAAANYWHOOO...back to Atlantis... who knows for sure if we will ever know anything about ANYTHING!!!!! We can theorize till we're blue in the face. We know that someone lived in that city under the sea...and thats basically it!!!
huh, did you not see what he wrote, all you did was paraphrase and insult him, he can take which ever path seems best for him, whether you have been down it or not, remember it is not your place to tell a man his place, nor is it mine, and he is right. We can never really know until someone builds a time machine and can see for them selves, but then that in itself is very highly improbable proposition.
Remember this there have been researchers who have said that it is possible for the western hemisphere to have been home to a more advanced group, though they never really elaborated on it.
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 2 2005, 05:06 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 1 2005, 08:06 PM) [snapback]912710[/snapback]
Cadetak47, I never said those words! You must have mistaken someone elses words for mine. What I said was, that we know there was once a city,a city that is now under water.
I do not know any more than most people do about this city. (I joined this site to learn) I have never claimed to have any special degrees, I'm not an expert on anything. (I don't believe anyone ever is...) How do we even know this citys' name is even Atlantis? Did someone find a sign or a document or something? If not then why do we call it Atlantis...?
If so, then why the debate?
Just to clear up any misconceptions, we don't know there was once a city--no clear evidence has been found--and we are told the city's name by Plato, the Greek Philosopher, who wrote the story down. It is named after the God Atlas.
Some say the tale of Atlantis is actually a morality tale and not about a city that was destroyed in a single day and night by the Greek Gods, but a lesson to the Greek people of what the power of greed does to the human spirit. The people of Atlantis were atune to nature and spread their wealth among their colonies, but eventually they became corrupt and waged war for power, wealth and land.
Plato tells the victor between the Greeks and the Atlanteans were the Greeks and Atlantis was cast into the unending abyss of the sea for their unholiness.
meyleunah
Nov 2 2005, 05:27 AM
Yes I did read what he wrote! It is VERY clear to ME WHO his "One true GOD is !!!!!
You want to talk about ME insulting HIM !!! You BOTH insulted ME!!!!!!
"I" can't tell a man wich path to follow??!! I did't !!!! I simply said "Rethink your steps" as advice... (Did you NOT read MY words??? ("I would ADVISE (AAAADDVVIIIIIZZZZZE)).and then gave a brief note of personal experience!!! "I" can't say THAT but he can tell me
about the "One true God"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH brother!!!! PAAHHHLEEEZZZZZ!!!!!! What he said was insulting to ME!!!!! Just because someone gives advice doesnt mean you have to take it..... (Apparently your involved with this "One true God" too) OH!!! I'm sorry... did I insult you ? I can't stand "Mickey Mouse" either!!! OH!!! I'm sorry...did I insult you ???
Look man, it's only my oppinion...geezzz............
meyleunah
Nov 2 2005, 05:59 AM
Where are you DemonWatcher? I mean DarkLordOfHell ? I mean.....wich one are you REALY???!!!! I thought it was against the rules to have more than one identity?!
Have I insulted you again...or did I just bust your bubble ? SSEEEE...I know things.....
I may have no clue about Atlantis (though I do so love a good debate) but I do know alot of other things......! Wana tryyyy me?!......
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 2 2005, 06:39 PM
What are you babbling and ranting about, meyleunah?
DemonWatcher
Nov 3 2005, 12:50 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 1 2005, 11:59 PM) [snapback]912923[/snapback]
Where are you DemonWatcher? I mean DarkLordOfHell ? I mean.....wich one are you REALY???!!!! I thought it was against the rules to have more than one identity?!
Have I insulted you again...or did I just bust your bubble ? SSEEEE...I know things.....
I may have no clue about Atlantis (though I do so love a good debate) but I do know alot of other things......! Wana tryyyy me?!......
we are best friends and we are two different people, remember one thing we study along the same lines and we have differing opinions on everything, and to say we are one and the same is not insulting just inaccurate. argue with me, Darky has a bit of a temper.
and a nasty one to boot.
DemonWatcher
Nov 3 2005, 12:51 AM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Nov 2 2005, 12:39 PM) [snapback]913444[/snapback]
What are you babbling and ranting about, meyleunah?
to me and to DarkLordOfHELL, though it seem we sound alike here. does that clarify it for you, friend.
meyleunah
Nov 3 2005, 02:22 AM
Funny how you two have the exact same birthday.....
And to whom ever it may cancern...I am not babbling, ranting,or raveing....I AM speaking english...Am I NOT ?
And to DarkLordOfHell/DemonWatcher...you can fool some of the people some of the time,
But you cant fool me !!! I know wich path you follow,you do not know mine..... You are only but a thought away......... So leave me alone.........
Can we get back to Atlantis now ?!
Or are we going to stay in "Romper Room" ?!
M.E.I.C.C
Nov 3 2005, 02:28 AM
any body wonder why the Pacific ocean is soooooooo big?
Cadetak
Nov 3 2005, 02:39 AM
A really big fat kid jumped into it?
M.E.I.C.C
Nov 3 2005, 02:40 AM
LOL, the Pacific Ocean might have been Atlantis at one time or another
Cadetak
Nov 3 2005, 02:43 AM
Ok, Anyways...back on topic...What was it? Oh, Atlantis.
What other documented evidence do we have of Atlantis' existence other than Plato? I heard that a Phoroh(sp?) in Egypt said they learned all there secrets from the 'Atlanteans'...of course the person he told this to was Plato.
Also I think it was the mayans who said they saw white men with gold hair come from the sea and teach them.
ANyone know about these accounts?
well there's a massive chain of underwater mountains that stretch from Easter island to the S.East Asian sea board that used to be above water, a lot of polynesian locals in those areas and on Easter speak of a people that lived on that chain of islands before it went under.
M.E.I.C.C
Nov 3 2005, 02:46 AM
I know of one account where the Mayans had a small fleet of Frigate and Corvette sized ships that traded with white men with Blonde Hair from the Sea
Cadetak
Nov 3 2005, 02:48 AM
Well there are tons of places were Atlantis 'could' be. And I bet there are some sunken cities buried around the globe. The question is if one of them was Atlantis.
Cadetak
Nov 3 2005, 02:49 AM
Also, wouldn't everyone at that time know of Atlantis? Or was all knowledge of it with the Library of Alexander?
DemonWatcher
Nov 3 2005, 02:54 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 2 2005, 08:22 PM) [snapback]914040[/snapback]
Funny how you two have the exact same birthday.....
And to whom ever it may cancern...I am not babbling, ranting,or raveing....I AM speaking english...Am I NOT ?
And to DarkLordOfHell/DemonWatcher...you can fool some of the people some of the time,
But you cant fool me !!! I know wich path you follow,you do not know mine..... You are only but a thought away......... So leave me alone.........
Can we get back to Atlantis now ?!
Or are we going to stay in "Romper Room" ?!
not my place to know your path only my own. and yes back to atlantis, how advanced would you say they could have been?
DarkLordOfHELL
Nov 3 2005, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 3 2005, 02:22 AM) [snapback]914040[/snapback]
Funny how you two have the exact same birthday.....
And to whom ever it may cancern...I am not babbling, ranting,or raveing....I AM speaking english...Am I NOT ?
And to DarkLordOfHell/DemonWatcher...you can fool some of the people some of the time,
But you cant fool me !!! I know wich path you follow,you do not know mine..... You are only but a thought away......... So leave me alone.........
Can we get back to Atlantis now ?!
Or are we going to stay in "Romper Room" ?!
true our b-days are the same and that is not a coincidence, we were born on the same day in different places, is that a problem for you. You know not who i be, only i and DemonWatcher truly know.
meyleunah
Nov 3 2005, 03:35 AM
If the maps are accurate,I would say that that would be one form of proof how advanced they were. I am embarased to say that I know nothing of Plato's work. I thought I may learn something about Atlantis on this site. I had no idea how deep it gets. Very interesting.
It is very possible there were fair skined blond hair people who came out of the see! I DO know that on a pyramid in Egypt it was incribed that fair skined people with red hair came from the sky and showed them things....so it is definately possible!!!!!
DarkLordOfHELL
Nov 3 2005, 03:54 AM
some speculate that may have occured on easter island, because the statues are of people with red eyes and long lobed ears. I like to think they were a seafaring people who happened to have found something that made them smarter and some kind of technology that allowed them to make said maps, or they are from outer space and made humans smarter over time.
meyleunah
Nov 3 2005, 04:26 AM
I know this isn't realy the place to talk about people from outer space....BUT....I can buy that!!! Because,it also said that some of the visitors from the sky were left behind to interbreed with the Humans,thus making them smater through D.N.A. too-as well as showing them how to operate,mend broken bones,mummyfie,etc. We are not alone in this universe...I have seen,personaly,many diferent crafts,all shapes and sizes. From the classic oval disk,to teny-tiny oval discs' to huge cigar shaped crafts. These sea-dwelling peoples could have very well been from outer space. And could very well have interbreeded with our human race.
Have you ever seen the movie "the Abys"? Great movie...one of my favs.
DemonWatcher
Nov 3 2005, 04:58 PM
i have seen that movie, but i have also seen images, pictures and photographs of the crafts you mentioned. Maybe they discovered this technology left over from something long ago, kinda the Jak and Daxter series with the Precursors.
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 3 2005, 05:35 PM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 2 2005, 11:26 PM) [snapback]914187[/snapback]
I know this isn't realy the place to talk about people from outer space....BUT....I can buy that!!! Because,it also said that some of the visitors from the sky were left behind to interbreed with the Humans,thus making them smater through D.N.A. too-as well as showing them how to operate,mend broken bones,mummyfie,etc. We are not alone in this universe...I have seen,personaly,many diferent crafts,all shapes and sizes. From the classic oval disk,to teny-tiny oval discs' to huge cigar shaped crafts. These sea-dwelling peoples could have very well been from outer space. And could very well have interbreeded with our human race.
Have you ever seen the movie "the Abys"? Great movie...one of my favs.
The Abyss is fictional and is in no way based on any reality.
meyleunah
Nov 3 2005, 06:29 PM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Nov 3 2005, 05:35 PM) [snapback]914837[/snapback]
The Abyss is fictional and is in no way based on any reality.
Did I SAY Is WAS ??? !!!
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 3 2005, 10:20 PM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 3 2005, 01:29 PM) [snapback]914911[/snapback]
Did I SAY Is WAS ??? !!!
Surprisingly enough, I know some people online that actually believe something like that happened under water and the government has covered it up because it has to do with UFO-like phenomenom.
meyleunah
Nov 3 2005, 11:20 PM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Nov 3 2005, 10:20 PM) [snapback]915249[/snapback]
Surprisingly enough, I know some people online that actually believe something like that happened under water and the government has covered it up because it has to do with UFO-like phenomenom.
Hey....You said it....Not me !!!!
But.....I happen to be one of those people who believe the gonernment is covering up alot more that just U.F.O.'s !!!! I can see conspericy marked over practicly everything. It would not shok me one ioda if there WERE people liveing under the sea.... It may be that they think people can't handle the truth. It may be that they have their own diabolical intentions.....It could very well be that they are covering up information about this underwater city we call Atlantis. I know the diference between reality and make believe...
I know you are young (but you may have seen it on cable) but when I was a child cartoons like "The Jetsons" were make believe...Now we have alot of the technology depicted in the cartoon!! ALL information must come from a source....
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 4 2005, 12:05 AM
Young? Try late twenties.
meyleunah
Nov 4 2005, 03:06 AM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Nov 4 2005, 12:05 AM) [snapback]915372[/snapback]
Young? Try late twenties.
29 to be exact....like I said, young. I've got 10yrs. on you !
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 4 2005, 03:12 AM
Age before beauty. But being older doesn't make you wiser.

Just a little more experienced in the manners of life. However, I've had my fill these last few months.
meyleunah
Nov 4 2005, 03:21 AM
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Nov 4 2005, 03:12 AM) [snapback]915590[/snapback]
Age before beauty. But being older doesn't make you wiser.

Just a little more experienced in the manners of life. However, I've had my fill these last few months.
Seems to me you have one big chip on your shoulder! Did I say anything about being wiser?! NO, I don't think so...All I did was reffer to a cartoon and coment on you POSSIBLY being too young to remember it! For Petes sake man....give me a break!!!!!!
pick-pick-pick-pick-pick.................It appears you are LOOKING for an argument!!!!
I believe if you can dream it - you can do it !!! Nothing is impossible.....
Ancient World Wonders
Nov 4 2005, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(meyleunah @ Nov 3 2005, 10:21 PM) [snapback]915601[/snapback]
Seems to me you have one big chip on your shoulder! Did I say anything about being wiser?! NO, I don't think so...All I did was reffer to a cartoon and coment on you POSSIBLY being too young to remember it! For Petes sake man....give me a break!!!!!!
pick-pick-pick-pick-pick.................It appears you are LOOKING for an argument!!!!
I believe if you can dream it - you can do it !!! Nothing is impossible.....
Chill out. I'm just kidding with you.
You need to step back from your computer, stretch your arms in the air and eat a banana. It will control your stress. Oh, and pull the stick out of your...
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