after_life_solja
Sep 6 2005, 06:10 PM

has anyone heard of the hyperdimentional resonator its meant to make people time travel mentally or physically when your on a magnetic grid point someone made a short wave radio receiver and transmitter and actually travelled back in time a few hours i want to know if people have had any experiences like that and had something
MedicTJ
Sep 6 2005, 06:30 PM
I don't believe in this particular object or instance.
The only documented instance of actual time travel happened a couple of decades ago I think...and I'll try to dig up info on it.
I'm going on memory here so this might not be entirely accurate.
There was a gentlemen who was flying a twin-engine plane by himself near the Bermuda Triangle. He tells the story of how he flew into a vortex cloud and all of his instruments completely failed. He was trying to land somewhere in Florida I believe, but in the upper part of the state.
When he emerged from the cloud, he was near Miami and landed there, hundreds of miles away from where he was supposed to land. When checking the flight log, the only way he could have traveled that far, that fast, would have been to travel at speeds higher than even our fastest military jets can fly. He covered an area of hundreds of miles in under an hour.
Again, this is documented in the flight log as to where he took off from, where he landed, and the time elapsed in between. There is no explanation as to why an aircraft of that size and power could have traversed that distance in such a short amount of time.
I'll try to find a link to this now.
MedicTJ
Sep 6 2005, 06:41 PM
Here's one, and I got some of my info wrong.
But here's the gist of it, his airplane travelled 250 miles in 47 minutes. It is unexplainable for that type of aircraft.
http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/bruce_gernon.htmlI've just done some calculating. In order to travel that distance in that amount of time, the top speed would have to be about 320 MPH.
He was flying a Beechcraft Bonanza A36. The top speed for this aircraft is 203 MPH.
Raelian1
Sep 6 2005, 08:26 PM
Time travel is not possible.
Pannkakskungen
Sep 6 2005, 09:16 PM
Did Rael tell you that?
Raelian1
Sep 6 2005, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(Pannkakskungen @ Sep 6 2005, 05:16 PM)
Did Rael tell you that?
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As a matter of fact he did. And he knows that because the Elohim explained to him that time travel is impossible.
Stellar
Sep 7 2005, 12:17 AM
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As a matter of fact he did. And he knows that because the Elohim explained to him that time travel is impossible.
I thought you believed that the Elohim were aliens, not gods... as aliens, they dont know everything, so maybe they just havent succeeded in time travel.
MedicTJ
Sep 7 2005, 01:43 AM
Oh well, back on this particular matter.....most here know that I am a skeptic in every sense. But this one particular story actually interested me because it had some plausibility to it. The flight recording was done as far as when he took off, the distance travelled, the time it took to travel, and when he landed.
After doing some research, I still cannot find a viable reason as to how this guy travelled that far that quickly. I thought about the jet stream at first, and that maybe he caught a boost from that...but his direction was opposite the direction of the jet stream. On top of that, this particular aircraft doesn't reach altitudes that high.
The other thing I thought of was a naturally occurring burst of wind. Although the jet stream travels west to east....storms that form in the Atlantic travel east to west. I thought maybe he could have "latched on" to some kind of down burst of wind that propelled him at speeds higher than the aircraft could accelerate to. But he lists no occurences of any turbulence and states that his flight was tranquil and, other than the anamoly, completely uneventful.
There are many other occurrences from the Bermuda Triangle. We've all heard about it and most of us have, at the very least, read up a little bit on it. The "flight 19" incident is probably the most popular and famous.
This one is different in that there is an actual timeline that starts at point "A", ends at point "B", and the only unexplainable thing is the time the distance was travelled between the two points.
In the case of something like Flight 19, and many others reported like it, you start from point "A" and don't have a point "B".
That, to me, is what makes Gernon's account so remarkable. We have an account of his entire trip, and backed up by flight controllers from point "A" AND point "B".
I'm not saying that there isn't a logical, natural reason for it. I'm simply saying that at this time, that reason is unexplainable.
As a skeptic, I like to disprove the paranormal whenever possible. I simply cannot do so in this particular case.
Nirwana
Sep 9 2005, 05:15 AM
I think it's completely possible to travel to the future but PAST I doubt very much.
Celeryslam
Sep 10 2005, 03:24 AM
how can u travel into the future if it hasnt happened yet? if you could than that means that fate isnt real and events arnt chosen at random but have been pre-chosen and therefore not change-able. going back into the past seems more realistic because the events have already happened.
Nirwana
Sep 10 2005, 03:34 AM
QUOTE(Celeryslam @ Sep 10 2005, 03:24 AM)
how can u travel into the future if it hasnt happened yet? if you could than that means that fate isnt real and events arnt chosen at random but have been pre-chosen and therefore not change-able. going back into the past seems more realistic because the events have already happened.
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Going into the future is proven by the relativity theory but not the way you're thinking, you could go there but not come back.. I mean you would be basically accelerating things around you, everything would age faster than you, I didn't understand your thing about fate, you said"if you could than that means that fate isnt real and events arnt chosen at random but have been pre-chosen and therefore not change-able" personally I think we make our own path and obviously if you don't know what is going to happen next then you won't be able to change it.
Celeryslam
Sep 10 2005, 04:03 AM
i meant that if you can travel into the future you would be able to change things, and if you are going into the future(which hasnt happened yet while ur in the past) then that means that time was already sent into place and we cant change it.
Stellar
Sep 10 2005, 02:52 PM
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i meant that if you can travel into the future you would be able to change things, and if you are going into the future(which hasnt happened yet while ur in the past) then that means that time was already sent into place and we cant change it.
No, it doesnt. All you meerly do is slow down how time affects you, for a period of time, while time goes by at the normal speed around you. There for, after 3 of your seconds, lets say 5 years goes by around you. All those choices which havent been made, have been made (5 years of choices) in your 3 seconds.
Celeryslam
Sep 10 2005, 08:24 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Sep 10 2005, 09:52 AM)
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i meant that if you can travel into the future you would be able to change things, and if you are going into the future(which hasnt happened yet while ur in the past) then that means that time was already sent into place and we cant change it.
No, it doesnt. All you meerly do is slow down how time affects you, for a period of time, while time goes by at the normal speed around you. There for, after 3 of your seconds, lets say 5 years goes by around you. All those choices which havent been made, have been made (5 years of choices) in your 3 seconds.
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oh ok that makes alot more sense thanks for clearing that up.
AKUMA166
Sep 11 2005, 12:21 AM
there was also somthing about a guy called jhon titor i dont know much info on him but he was supposadly a time traveler
Celeryslam
Sep 11 2005, 04:38 AM
havent heard much about his claims only that he was a fake.
jamesuss
Sep 12 2005, 05:37 PM
Time travel is one of my favorite subjects. It fascinates me to no end. Most scientists believe that traveling backwards in time is just not possible using conventional methods. In other words, if it is possible we don't know how to do it using our current understanding of the universe. However time travel to the future is a definite possibility.
The reason for this is outlined in Einstein's Theory of Relativity. For the purposes of what we are talking about it states that the faster an object goes, the slower time moves for that object. The downside to this is that the faster you go the greater your density becomes.
Stephen Hawking has suggested that a way to avoid the whole infinite density problem is to skirt along the outside of a giant black hole. This would propel you to great speeds, but you could avoid having your atoms stripped apart one by one. To do that you would have to hit the even horizon at an angle that would send you shooting out of the vortex after a couple of passes. Of course you would also want to avoid getting to close because once you cross the event horizon there is no escape (at least not as far as we know).
The fascinating aspect of this is that one could spend a year and space and come back and find fifty earth years had passed. Another fascinating aspect is that if you were somehow able to overcome the physical limitations and go faster than the speed of light then things would get really interesting. If you could do that, then you would be able to travel distances of many parsecs and seemingly do it in an instant. In other words, time would more or less freeze for you but continue on around you normally. The downside to this is that when you got back thousands upon thousands of years would have passed on earth. Oh well, a small price to pay if you ask me.
As far as time travel to the past goes, I often question if it really is impossible. Afterall, everything we see or hear happened in the past. The sun we look at is not the sun of now, it is the sun of eight minutes ago. The stars we see are billions of years old and may not even exist, but we see them anyways.
Oh well, I have rambled on long enough. Like I said, I am really passionate about this stuff.
Lilly
Sep 12 2005, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(after_life_solja @ Sep 6 2005, 06:10 PM)

has anyone heard of the hyperdimentional resonator its meant to make people time travel mentally or physically when your on a magnetic grid point ...
Do you mean like this
Hyperdimensional Resonator?Personally, I'd wait until the 2010 model comes out. I purchased one back in 2008 and there are vast improvements in the 2010 unit!
hazzard
Sep 13 2005, 08:04 AM
You are my kind of woman L.....ROFL.
Lilly
Sep 13 2005, 11:33 AM
Just to add, it might be a good idea to pick up one of these handy-dandy
UFO Detectors while you're at it.
Hmm..." Can detect any large metal objects moving through the air."...I guess someone must have forgotten about
airplanes?
seanph
Sep 13 2005, 12:33 PM
Hey, jamesuss. TT has fascinated me since forever and a day as well. Just saw a documentary on the Science Channel on the subject. According to scientists, TT is possible both forward and background in time. In fact, a leading scientist has published a paper on said subject in a major journal. It was absolutely fascinating. I'll see if I can find the information for you. Really exciting. Such things are no longer in the realm of sci-fi.
Just found it. The episode was entitled SCI :: Episode ::
Lost in Time.http://search.discovery.com/search?proxyst...+&go.x=0&go.y=0
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