Are there any sea monsters other than serpent types like the Lockness and Ogopogo?

To me, the term "sea serpent" implies a legless, limbliss giant sea snake type of creature. The loch ness "monster" is apparently not like this at all but believed to have a thick body with four flipper-like limbs similar to Plesiosaurs, and the Ketos sea dragons so often depicted in ancient Greco-Roman art.

There are several instances of ship's crews reporting lizardlike or dragonlike sea monsters, rather than the legless, finless, serpent types.

I meant the torso as serpent like, as most sea monsters are, what are some non-serpents?

trunko wasnt serpent like

And let's not forget the World-famous Giant Squid!

straight from National Geographic.......I never new...wow

Won't swim in rivers the same way anymore...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...s/giantcatfish/

I knew they was a reason i never swam in dark water 's.

Other than the Giant squid or megalodon, I think most of the sea monsters have been described as serpents in shape, even the Remote Sea Monster was described as a lizard of giant proportions.

Is the Kracon different or the same as a giant squid?

Mermaids I guess could fit into this catagory, they may not be monster like in appearance but if they exist you would not want to encounter one.

I guess it also depends on your interpretation of the word monster, Monster fish like the one posted, just a big normal fish or monster crypto type thingmejig not yet discovered.

^I assume you mean Kraken right? Krakens were legendary giant squids; the ones that tore down huge ships etc.

Can't forget Giant Octopus either



http://marine.alaskapacific.edu/octopus/factsheet.html

One of the greatest "Sea Monsters" ever was recently discovered and featured on the Discovery channel. This was a huge Ichthyosaur, the Shonisaurus. I recall the skull alone was around 20 feet long and the whole beast may be around 100 feet when completely excavated. It seems to have had a similar ecologicl niche as today's sperm whale, a deep sea hunter of squid, probably the "giant" ones as well.

Here's a couple of WWI German U-boat sea monster encounters. They may not be true, but they're interesting.

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Off the coast of Ireland on July 30th, 1915, the German submarine U-28 torpedoed the British ship Iberian. It went down rapidly, stern first. As the crew of the U-28 watched there was a large explosion that sent water and wreckage a hundred feet into the air. A "gigantic sea animal" was thrown to the surface and remained visible for about fifteen seconds before it sank. It was shaped like a sixty foot long crocodile with webbed feet.

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Toward the end of World War I the German submarine UB-85 was caught on the surface, during the day, and sunk by a British patrol boat. The crew abandoned the sub and was picked up by the British. The U-boat commander, Captain Krech was questioned about why he had been cruising on the surface and he told this tale:

The sub had been recharging batteries at night on the surface when without any kind of warning a "strange beast" began to climb aboard from the sea. "This beast had large eyes, set in a horny sort of skull. It had a small head, but with teeth that could be seen glistening in the moonlight." The animal was so large that it forced the U-boat to list greatly to starboard. The captain feared an open hatch would drop below the waterline, flooding the sub and sinking it.

"Every man on watch began firing a sidearm at the beast," Krech continued. The animal had hold of the forward gun mount and would not let go.

The battle continued until the animal dropped back into the sea. In the struggle, though, the forward deck plating had been damaged and the sub could no longer submerge. "That is why you were able to catch us on the surface," the Captain concluded.


Sea monster tales

You see "Source" these aren't prehistoric sea lizards but the intelligent and immortal "heavenly dragons" we spoke of in the dragon thread. It is no coincidence those were both U Boats. You see, the Germans were the "bad guys", sinking ocean liners, bombing cities with their zeppellens, generally being "German" and other things that made them cursed in the eyes of God. Not to mention what they did in World War II, and then too, the dragons sunk a number of U Boats not to mention other assorted types of mayhem. And don't think all those nazis that "disappeared" made it safely to Argentina!

Pardon me for asking... but are you actually being serious?

Sea monster do exist, there are innumerous reports from every century , the Bible tells us about Leviathan, in the Old Testaments, and gives a very complete description of the beast , says that is extremly powerful and strong over the sea, that no spear or sword can penetrate its skin, and that it will be killed in the end of time...the loch ness and other lakes must have a surviving species of dinosaurs living there or maybe is the same serpent that comes in and out of the lakes by some underwater tunnel that conects the lakes with the sea...hey maybe IS leviathen who knows...

kraken was a giant octopus wasnt it

Ages ago there were legends about huge giant Sea Monsters in the Caspian Sea. But today we know they werent monsters, they were the Stur fish. But because of the Stur his incredible strength he can jump like hell, and it is huge in size, sometimes even 4-5 meters. So you can imagine it made them look like a huge monsters. I dont know the English name for Stur but here is a pic of it

^ sturgeon fish

Sure I'm serious New Dog. So you tell me why these dragons, um, I mean "Cryptozoological aquatic reptilian lifeforms" only attack GERMAN submarines and not British or American ones. I suppose you think the "good guys" could have won WWI and II without the help of God, and his dragon and angel assistants?

No, the Allies won WWII because of Captian America and the Invaders, not dragons! Come on! Read your history books!

Actually, those "dragon" attacks come from real U Boat logbooks, written by reputable and educated ship's captains -- a far cry from superhero comic books of the day. Go figure.........

is this guy german or something??

Okay, let's say that Holy Dragons did help the Allies win WWII. But, where are they now? Wouldn't they be sent to aide in Louisiana or hunting Osama ortaking helping in Bush's War of Terror, or against it if they read newspapers?

It is my understanding that they must remain extremely "covert" in their earthly activities as their discovery would incite people to believe the aplocalypse is at hand (Behold a Great Red Dragon, and all of that stuff). It the same thing as the panic that would be caused if the Government admitted UFOs were real (not that there is as much proof for them as there is for dragons, but you get the idea).

But it is true, they are occasionally seen, and even photographed, but no one realizes what they really are. People think they are sea monsters, dinosaurs and similar such creatures, for dragons are the stuff of fairy tales (and virtually every world religion).

are you kidding? according to more than half of all those monster attacks were creatures that could take loads and loads of gunfire,,,,if you read everything on the link that THESOURCE posted then one of the accounts said the creature had eyes as big as a warrior's shield,,,,and the things grabbed hold of their front gun,,,,,the only other fish that could take that gun fire would be fish as big as whales, and whales don't do that
EDIT: umm yeah, i'm the necromancer of dead threads

I like Shonisaurus. Though he looks like he just swallowed a cow.

i think there's bound to be a sea creature which hasn't been documented and classified by SCience yet given that the Earth's oceans have largely been unexplored and given that some animals do not necessarily have the natural buoyancy when they die which make them rise to the surface when they cease to breathe...

Yep, that 80 foot Shoni not as long as the blue whale, but it could hold the record as the worlds heaviest sea creature, with that very bulky body.

haha, that shonisaurus is awesome,,,,looks kind of like the ichysaurus, which is very closely related to the dolphin

Holy a....oh...my..GOD!!!!!

When Captain America throws his mighty shield! All those who appose this mighty shield must yield!

yea bout that one german account of the monster account.....let me give u an idea of what i think he told the americans......"so yea i was recharging the batteries on my sub cuz i knew u guys were around and i WAS comin to kill you but like this huge ass sea creature came outta no where and we shot it and while it was dying it flailed around and stuff, then i roundhouse kicked it in the face, but before it sank into the water it had to be gay and destroy some of the hatches so we coulnd dive and stuff....i swear......but if it wasent for that i would of totally sunk your ship.......totally...."

ok j/k on that, but a few destroyed u-boats isnt a sighn that "heavenly dragons" won the war for us, it just means that they probably sank in bad weather or had some malfunctions, not being atatcked by heavenly dragons sent by god to "help the good guys"
and you saying how come the U.S. or britain never had these accounts, well its because they didnt have to make up a excuse for losing, and you saying the U.S. as the "good guys" havent you ever heard of the fire bombings at Dresden? where millions of civilans died in a horrible fire strom, and that city had no military value what so ever, your sytem of morales is saying you are either good or evil, which i find to be narrow minded, the world isnt black and white, its different shades of grey, and if there were "heavenly dragons" you think they would of made it their priority to stop such horrible diasters such as dresden, instead of sinking a few stray u-boats.

Ok back to the subject, yes i do belive there are such things as sea serpents, i mean there was a time when the giant squid was thought to be a myth, and now just recently we have footage of it in the wild, it just goes to show that zoology isnt even close to be being finished, and the ocean is the most likely of place to find new animals, and with the example of the coalecath(probaly spelled that wrong) it shows that it is VERY possible that acncient creatures may still roam the depthes

and i would also like to point, that i find these instances of see monters attacking ships and suchs, Highly unlikely, right now im foucusing on the giant squid.

Ok for one, the giant squid wouldnt be all like "hhah ima be a badass and sink this ship" cause the giant squid doesnt know what a ship is, and im looking at this in a biological standpoint, and the ony reson a squid would do this was if it thought it was food,and i would think if it DID actually start attacking it it would relize pretty fast this thing isnt food cause it isnt organic, and giant squids biggest predator is the whale, and a ship looking at it from below would sure look like a whale, and the squid would probabaly try to keep its distance from it

i dont know if all that is true but thats just my 2p

Funk,
Your comments about the absurdity of a giant squid attacking a ship should also apply to a crypto giant sea reptile. BUT if the UBoat captain, (and rest of the crew) were telling the truth, maybe the explanation is somewhat supernatural for the very reasons you stated.

Actually, Dresden seems pretty "Biblical fire and brimstoney" without the assistance of Heavenly dragons. But I think most people "know" who were the good, and bad guys during WWII. Dresden was unfortunate, but so was Rotterdam, Warsaw, London, etc, which the lGermanyu all bombed first, not to mention indiscriminate sinking of all alied ships even if civilian.

I think it was Air MArshall tedder who believed there must have been "angels" in the cockpits of his aircraft during the Battle of Britain.
But in our modern world of cameras and scientists, heavenly creatures must remain very discreet, unlike the good old days.

well i looked into the subject more, and i came across sightings from allied pilots AND axis piliots that they saw strange ball of light that would follow there aircraft and raids, they were dubbed "foo fighters"

Some people belive they were the greys that were spyin on our military forces to see how powerful we were, however some say it was a secret goverment project, im not sure but do you belive there is any "heavenly" connection with the foos?

and people said they could be ball ighting however the reports indicated that the foos would follow them for miles at a time. and would do summersaults over there plane, and these foos were reported by the entire formation so it wasent just one pilot who ate some some bad k-rations, and im sure ball lighting dont preform ariel manuvers, and seeing that it was seen by more the one person at a time, and seen by both axis and allies, i belive the foos were somthing paranormal, and MIGHT be a weapon of the U.S. goverment however they were never seen after ww2 and we raided german labs and documents, and no foo like things were found *twighlight zone music plays*

Thats point of view...ask that to a German or Italian back then...

DC, don't try to drag dragons into everything. The Dresden fire were just bombs, not dragons. Your ideas on dragons causing the damage is absurd...So what is your view on Hiroshima, The granddaddy of all dragons blew up them, not a bomb? How about the Japanese Divine Wind? Were dragons controling them? Or how 'bout our current stealth bombers...are the pilots, actually dragons, not humans?

Richdog even pointed it out, DC, your ideas are COMPLETELY ABSURD...this further proves to me that your are not the "highly respected, world-renowned historian" But just another person like us with ideas. Ideas that no one has to believe. I have my own beliefs that many, many people would disagree with, they might not be true in their eyes. In the same way, your ideas might not be true in some of OUR eyes.

Yes, i agre with you frogfish, those were caused by humans not dragons, and in response to DC response on the other page, about saying we wouldnt have won WW2 if it were not for "divine intervention", well there are no "missing pieces" every historian will tell you that the Aliies won in a stragtegic way, the germans lost because they opened up a second front with Russia, and they had to comit their best brigades fighting and endlass battle with the reatreating russian army, and they were cut off because of the brutal russian winter. Since the western front was so strained of men and supplies, they couldnt hault the combined invasion of the british and american armies, then due to the carpet bombing by the airfoce, further diminshing its capability to fight, and with the russian army adavancing from the east, there is no doubt that the allies won it on their own means. Your only example is that a few u-boats went missing............well they were way the hell out in the middle of the ocean with only sparse radio contact with germany, im sure it is possible they malfucntitioned, and sank. And if theses dragons were emissaries from god, im pretty sure that they could avoid dection from the crude recording devies back then, unless the "dragons" wanted to make more sporting and a challenge......
if maybe you could give us more examples of your claim in action i might rethink my opinion. I am not forcing my opinion on you, but i m just merley pointing out the faults in your theroy, and showing my opinions on the subject.......which i think was about sea serpents







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Frogfish,
try to grow up just a little bit. I didn't say dragons burnt Dresden, I know it was firebombed by the allies, but merely said it was "like" a fire and brimstone heavenly retribution. I am not the first person who has said this either.

i think these sea monsters are just waiting out there, just trying to survive and gather food,,,but then they see these giant ships, and they are hungry- so they have no choice but to go to the ships and look for food- since these monsters eat alot- food could be scarce- or the monster didn't think the boat would bite back----they could be like hippopatamus's,,,hippos are just plain violent, not to protect themselves, or to gain food, or to gain dominence, they just attack- now sea monsters are monsters, they just attack---they lived their entire life unmatched in size, now we're talking arrogance

c'mon lets grill them all!!!