Check out this link. It states that NASA has altered the color of the photos from the mars rover displaying a red hazzy inhospitable place. But scientists and photographers beleive their false colored and cleary show the true color of mars.
http://xfacts.com/spirit2004/
Also check out this link for nice phots of Cydonia and the "Pyramids" in the area.
And the REAL video of NASA saying Definetly water was there! thats at the bottom of the page in the link below.
http://www.mars-earth.com/waterfront.htm
Full Version: NASA hiding Mars' true color?
My, my. This is spooky. Mars with a blue sky. Interesting that there was a shoreline by the pyramids. Is it indicative that a civilization chose to be near water, unlike in Egypt?
maybe there was once life there but not anymore, like it is a possibility since there was once water which would equal life soooo maybe a civilization was there but something happened to the planet, maybe a asteroid of a great size hit it and we just havnt found the crater yet, that or maybe its a civilization just begining and nasa doesnt want anyone to know theres one, why tho i have no damn clue, god damn governments~
Did it go in-depth as to why they wanted it to look inhospitable?
Well some stated that if they revealed everything at once that something of chaos would ensue because religous beliefs would be wrong. They think people couldn't take it all in at once. I mean it sounds plausible. But if all this is true why would they show these pictures in the first place if that didn't want anyone to know?
Right. This makes me wonder what else is on that planet.
Personally I think mars looks better with a blue sky, if it has blue sky there's the possiability that it has blue water, which means mars isint a wasate of space
I'd hope that there is at least some type of alien animals living on mars, insects, anything that is "alive". I think that even if NASA had revealed that there are simple life forms on mars that religions would go completely nuts. Remember, earth is the only planet with life on it that God cares about, he created everything on this planet. If they reveal more then they'd have to start digging deeper into the bible for explanations, which they will not find and most likely go insane.
Yelekiah smells conspiracy.
Nope, just the cat.
All you guys should watch the movie ''Mission to Mars'' its pretty cool and very interesting movie about mars. The movie is about exacly what you guys are talking about 
Art imitating life, that movie.
Also here's more on the "face" on mars. Which are actually NASA photos that were recently enhanced.
http://www.mars-earth.com/newface.htm
http://www.mars-earth.com/newface.htm
I keep trying to tell people, face or no face you can't escape that symmetry. That's not natural.
People are always seeing faces in inanimate objects.
We see them in clouds, in smoke, in random patterns on walls and floors.
The technical term is "PAREIDOLIA".
The reason behind it is pretty clear: as humans, we have evolved to recognize familiar faces. We see our mothers mere seconds after being born. We know by sight friends, family, enemies. We read a lot into faces, and our brain is hardwired to fit faces to patterns.
It takes remarkably little information to see a face; think of those "Have a Nice Day" buttons that only have two dots and a crescent, yet we see a smiling face in them. Amazing.
Natural, not paranormal at all, but amazing nonetheless.
And about the TRUE COLORS of Mars.
I'm not sure what you're on about, but most issues have been adressed in this link(see below) This includes the so called "true images" that are made by compositing the R G B images, and are in fact not "true" at all - the Red channel is an infra-red channel, which means whatever result you get by manually combining them will give you FALSE color.
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10795
True/False and why.
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The reason the sky looks blue on Earth, and these are NASA's own words:
"The visible violet light has a wavelength of about 400 nm. Within the visible wavelength spectrum, violet and blue wavelengths are scattered more efficiently than other wavelengths. The sky looks blue, not violet, because our eyes are more sensitive to blue light (the sun also emits more energy as blue light than as violet)."
(1) Hence this should apply to ANY planet with an atmosphere, such is the case with Mars.
We see them in clouds, in smoke, in random patterns on walls and floors.
The technical term is "PAREIDOLIA".
The reason behind it is pretty clear: as humans, we have evolved to recognize familiar faces. We see our mothers mere seconds after being born. We know by sight friends, family, enemies. We read a lot into faces, and our brain is hardwired to fit faces to patterns.
It takes remarkably little information to see a face; think of those "Have a Nice Day" buttons that only have two dots and a crescent, yet we see a smiling face in them. Amazing.
Natural, not paranormal at all, but amazing nonetheless.
And about the TRUE COLORS of Mars.
I'm not sure what you're on about, but most issues have been adressed in this link(see below) This includes the so called "true images" that are made by compositing the R G B images, and are in fact not "true" at all - the Red channel is an infra-red channel, which means whatever result you get by manually combining them will give you FALSE color.
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10795
True/False and why.
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The reason the sky looks blue on Earth, and these are NASA's own words:
"The visible violet light has a wavelength of about 400 nm. Within the visible wavelength spectrum, violet and blue wavelengths are scattered more efficiently than other wavelengths. The sky looks blue, not violet, because our eyes are more sensitive to blue light (the sun also emits more energy as blue light than as violet)."
(1) Hence this should apply to ANY planet with an atmosphere, such is the case with Mars.
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People are always seeing faces in inanimate objects.
The technical term is "PAREIDOLIA".
The reason behind it is pretty clear: as humans, we have evolved to recognize familiar faces. We see our mothers mere seconds after being born. We know by sight friends, family, enemies. We read a lot into faces, and our brain is hardwired to fit faces to patterns.
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The technical term is "PAREIDOLIA".
The reason behind it is pretty clear: as humans, we have evolved to recognize familiar faces. We see our mothers mere seconds after being born. We know by sight friends, family, enemies. We read a lot into faces, and our brain is hardwired to fit faces to patterns.
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Let's say it's not a face. It's symmetrical. Unnatural. Pareidolia is irrelevant. What is this structure then?
Come on, Debunker, answer me this. Enlighten me with your wisdom.
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Yelekiah smells conspiracy.
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Come on, Debunker, answer me this. Enlighten me with your wisdom.
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As opposed to you enlightening us with your wisdom?
http://www.space.com/opinionscolumns/opini...ord_000613.html
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If NASA knew, or even suspected, that the features of Cydonia were not of natural origin and had reason to hide the discovery, why did they not suppress the images in 1976?
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Why would extraterrestrials sculpt a human face on the surface of Mars? If this is an indication that it is intended for human eyes, why didn’t they make it large enough to be seen with an Earth-based telescope or, better still, build it on Earth’s moon?
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The Viking orbiter pictures were taken when the sun was very low in the martian sky. The Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft took pictures when the sun was about 25 degrees above the horizon, and these show no resemblance to a face. If somebody wanted to create such a feature and make it large enough to be seen from space, why would they carve it in such a way that it is only visible when the sun is low in the sky?
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Another example: every few weeks we get more news about the possibility of life on Jupiter's moon Europa. There appears to be water there, and many scientists think the chances for some kind of life are good. Both the scientific community and NASA appear excited at the possibility. Are you panicking yet?
Could NASA, or any government agency, keep information about intelligent extraterrestrial life a secret for 24 years? I don't believe they could keep something like this quiet for 24 hours. Consider how readily information on some government policy or scandal leaks out, often to the embarrassment of officials.
Given the lack of hard evidence for artificiality in Cydonia, why are there so many books and articles claiming otherwise? A simple explanation is plausible: The authors are trading on public ignorance and gullibility to swell their own bank balances. They build on ignorance to create a market for more books.
I hope and believe a piloted mission to Mars will be undertaken within the next few years. I hope whoever goes can spare the time and resources to visit Cydonia. Even this won’t end the controversy; those that stand to lose the most -- the authors of all those books -- will simply write up more books about cover-ups.
The most effective way to resolve the Cydonia controversy is to improve the standard of scientific education for the general public, and to promote critical thinking as a central part of that education. Perhaps then the focus will shift to more pressing issues -- such as global warming exacerbated by deforestation. Think of all the trees that got pulped to make books about the Face on Mars.
Could NASA, or any government agency, keep information about intelligent extraterrestrial life a secret for 24 years? I don't believe they could keep something like this quiet for 24 hours. Consider how readily information on some government policy or scandal leaks out, often to the embarrassment of officials.
Given the lack of hard evidence for artificiality in Cydonia, why are there so many books and articles claiming otherwise? A simple explanation is plausible: The authors are trading on public ignorance and gullibility to swell their own bank balances. They build on ignorance to create a market for more books.
I hope and believe a piloted mission to Mars will be undertaken within the next few years. I hope whoever goes can spare the time and resources to visit Cydonia. Even this won’t end the controversy; those that stand to lose the most -- the authors of all those books -- will simply write up more books about cover-ups.
The most effective way to resolve the Cydonia controversy is to improve the standard of scientific education for the general public, and to promote critical thinking as a central part of that education. Perhaps then the focus will shift to more pressing issues -- such as global warming exacerbated by deforestation. Think of all the trees that got pulped to make books about the Face on Mars.
Sounds reasonable to me...
I don't personally think it's a face, but it is artificial.
IF anything intelligent is there I think we would have known by now, all of us. No government could keep it a secret. How would humans be able to tell aliens to "Shhhh dude be quiet you guys dont let anyone else know youre here or their all gonna like flip out and go nuts you guys dont fly with your high beams on".
Unless they had some sort of contract...WTF am I saying?
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Sep 10 2005, 09:03 AM)
I keep trying to tell people, face or no face you can't escape that symmetry. That's not natural.
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http://www.canimina.com/thai04/brett/mt%20...y%20air%202.jpg
Omg, Mt. Fuji is artificial- It must be an alien base or government conspiracy!
Mt. Fuji is not symmetrical.
Can you please show me the symmetry of Mt. Fuji. That too is irrelevant.
Its pretty much as symmetrical as the Face on Mars. Mt. Fuji was the first thing I searched and its almsot as symmetrical; so search other mountains, glaciers etc. on google and you will find other that are just as symmetrical.
Look at the article QuantumE posted earlier in this thread. The high-resolution photograph, not the original. High-res shows symmetry.
Then, if you'd like, show me how Mt. Fuji compares.
*Psst* Yelekiah you can EDIT your previous post to add information and prevent double-posting, saves the mods work...
Im not sure what one you mean exactly; But I already looked at a high-res image of the face on mars and the contours aren't symmetrical at all.
Thanx, Richdog.
You can't compare Mt. Fuji to this "face". I don't think it's a face.
However, you did.
However, you did.
As richdog said. You can Edit your post; click the EDIT button on your previous post to do it.
Like I said before- Mt. Fuji was the only natural formation I searched as an example; and what do you know it was as symmetrical as the face on mars. Try searching google and you will find many more symmetrical formations.
Here: Fuji from space. http://www.allhatnocattle.net/mt%20fuji%20space.jpg
Like I said before- Mt. Fuji was the only natural formation I searched as an example; and what do you know it was as symmetrical as the face on mars. Try searching google and you will find many more symmetrical formations.
Here: Fuji from space. http://www.allhatnocattle.net/mt%20fuji%20space.jpg
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Sep 10 2005, 07:21 AM)
As richdog said. You can Edit your post; click the EDIT button on your previous post to do it.
Like I said before- Mt. Fuji was the only natural formation I searched as an example; and what do you know it was as symmetrical as the face on mars. Try searching google and you will find many more symmetrical formations.
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Like I said before- Mt. Fuji was the only natural formation I searched as an example; and what do you know it was as symmetrical as the face on mars. Try searching google and you will find many more symmetrical formations.
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Actually, you can just look at Mt. Fuji and tell that it's natural.
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Actually, you can just look at Mt. Fuji and tell that it's natural.
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I didnt say it was artificial
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Actually, you can just look at Mt. Fuji and tell that it's natural.
Just like the "Face" on mars
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QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Sep 10 2005, 09:03 AM)
I keep trying to tell people, face or no face you can't escape that symmetry. That's not natural.
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Omg, Mt. Fuji is artificial- It must be an alien base or government conspiracy!
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I know you were joking, but you're comparing Mt. Fuji to a "face."
I was comparing to the "face" on mars; yeah. What other reason besides the fact that its symmetrical, leads you to believe the "face" is artificial?
The pyramids next to them are artificial. Look at the article earlier in the thread. They have a certain symmetry. Pyramids and this "face" are not mesas or other natural structures.
To me it just looks like the shadows being cast over portions of the pyramid obscuring half of the pyramid so you cant see if it's symmetrical or not.
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Sep 10 2005, 08:24 AM)
To me it just looks like the shadows being cast over portions of the pyramid obscuring half of the pyramid so you cant see if it's symmetrical or not.
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Hey, again. Try a search of images perhaps on Google. I'm sure there are ones with better resolution.
I'll look into it as soon as I can
Cydonia.
Alien artifacts,symmetrical formations,faces or not,if something like that were suspected NASAs budget problems would be over,FOREVER.
Alien artifacts,symmetrical formations,faces or not,if something like that were suspected NASAs budget problems would be over,FOREVER.
Are you talking about this image Yelekiah?
Image from Mars-Earth.com
They just mirrored one side of the "face", that makes it look symmetrical - not it's natural appearance. The original, unaltered (just contrast enhanced) image doesnt look symmetrical at all, it's just; rocky stuff. I dont think there is a face on mars. I also think that those "pyramids" may be natural formations and the lighting creates an illusion. That little dome anomaly looks *crowd gasp* fake! * crowd
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Image from Mars-Earth.com
They just mirrored one side of the "face", that makes it look symmetrical - not it's natural appearance. The original, unaltered (just contrast enhanced) image doesnt look symmetrical at all, it's just; rocky stuff. I dont think there is a face on mars. I also think that those "pyramids" may be natural formations and the lighting creates an illusion. That little dome anomaly looks *crowd gasp* fake! * crowd
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It amazes me that you folks think that NASA is always lying, but some website named "xfacts" is the bringer of the gospel truth.
I agree and I can't work out why people think that, I guess the worlds a great big conspiracy theory to some 
I dont believe the conspiracy mumbo, I was just pointing out to Yelakiah that the symmetrical image he saw wasnt the original "face". That they mirrored it.
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I keep trying to tell people, face or no face you can't escape that symmetry. That's not natural.
You're right. Its not natural. Its one side copied and mirrored over to the other side. Thats why it looks symetrical... because the person who made those pictures on that website made it to look symetrical!
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High-res shows symmetry.
The high res is edited to BE symetrical.
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The pyramids next to them are artificial.
Umm.. why would you say that?
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They have a certain symmetry.
Not really.
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Pyramids and this "face" are not mesas or other natural structures.
Umm, they do quite look like natural structures...
QUOTE(ImAnAlienWa8iD @ Sep 11 2005, 02:56 AM)
I dont believe the conspiracy mumbo, I was just pointing out to Yelakiah that the symmetrical image he saw wasnt the original "face". That they mirrored it.
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What I said wasn't aimed at you, just a broad statement 
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