Smeagol1
Sep 11 2005, 03:07 AM
think about it all those earthquakes last years hurracanes and the Tusnami and now Katrina there all signs of the end to me.
what do you think?
Fluffybunny
Sep 11 2005, 04:28 AM
There have been hurricanes and earthquakes and tsunamis and every other kind of disaster for millions of years...
As sad as I am for the folks that have been misplaced, hurt and killed in the hurricane, I know that this will not be the last natural disaster, nor will it be the worst.
I don't know how old you are, I would imagine younger folks would be overwhelmed by these disasters quicker than older folks that have seen more stuff over the years.
These kinds of things have been happening for longer than man has been around, and will happen long ofter we are gone. Human have a tendancy to make our homes close to water(Under sea level in New Orleans case; not a good idea). As the ocean can be less than predictable, we end up causing ourselves a lot of stress.
"The End" isn't any closer than it was 2000 years ago or two million years ago. Life will go on, and the only end we will have to deal with is our own inevitable end.
SilverCougar
Sep 11 2005, 04:43 AM
Fluffy couldn't have said it better.
As I said in another thread the earth and it's climat goes through cycles... And we happen to be in an upcurrent of one right now (though possible that our high end pollution is quickening the climat cycle)
Another thing is, we're so connected with the entire world right now, that an earthquake can happen in say.. Chile... and we'd know about out the second after it started...
especialy with sites like this
joc
Sep 11 2005, 01:16 PM
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"The End" isn't any closer than it was 2000 years ago or two million years ago. Life will go on, and the only end we will have to deal with is our own inevitable end.
zandore
Sep 11 2005, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(joc @ Sep 11 2005, 09:16 AM)
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"The End" isn't any closer than it was 2000 years ago or two million years ago. Life will go on, and the only end we will have to deal with is our own inevitable end.

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Make that two!
ShaunZero
Sep 11 2005, 05:24 PM
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There have been hurricanes and earthquakes and tsunamis and every other kind of disaster for millions of years...
Well that's obvious.... We all know this wasn't the first hurricane to ever hit, but damn sh** has been happening very often latley.
Make that one
Heru
Sep 11 2005, 05:56 PM
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Sep 10 2005, 10:28 PM)
These kinds of things have been happening for longer than man has been around, and will happen long ofter we are gone. Human have a tendancy to make our homes close to water(Under sea level in New Orleans case; not a good idea). As the ocean can be less than predictable, we end up causing ourselves a lot of stress.
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Sums up katrina right there. They were showing the history and showed em putn sand on a swamp so they could build on top of it.
Theres a reason why theres no plans or hills there.
zandore
Sep 11 2005, 06:02 PM
New Orleans is on the average 6 feet below sea level.
LarryOldtimer
Sep 12 2005, 02:33 AM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Sep 11 2005, 10:24 AM)
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There have been hurricanes and earthquakes and tsunamis and every other kind of disaster for millions of years...
Well that's obvious.... We all know this wasn't the first hurricane to ever hit, but damn sh** has been happening very often latley.
Make that one

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Natural disasters have been happening with some frequency about forever. It is only in modern times that we even hear about them when they aren't quite local. The Bible speaks about "wars and rumors of war". Well, there is no such thing as a "rumor of war" anymore. The media is just about everywhere, and if a war anywhere happens, it will be either on the news or on the web. Before radio, most wars were nothing more than rumor except to those involved in it, and most wars not even known about to the people far away from the action.
RH2097
Sep 12 2005, 11:36 PM
As cold hearted as it sounds, it is kind of their own fault for living there. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for them, but it is their fault for living there.
When you live on a coast no matter what precautions you take, it is inevitable for something like this to happen.
ShaunZero
Sep 13 2005, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(LarryOldtimer @ Sep 12 2005, 02:33 AM)
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Sep 11 2005, 10:24 AM)
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There have been hurricanes and earthquakes and tsunamis and every other kind of disaster for millions of years...
Well that's obvious.... We all know this wasn't the first hurricane to ever hit, but damn sh** has been happening very often latley.
Make that one

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Natural disasters have been happening with some frequency about forever. It is only in modern times that we even hear about them when they aren't quite local. The Bible speaks about "wars and rumors of war". Well, there is no such thing as a "rumor of war" anymore. The media is just about everywhere, and if a war anywhere happens, it will be either on the news or on the web. Before radio, most wars were nothing more than rumor except to those involved in it, and most wars not even known about to the people far away from the action.

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That's funny, cuz my friend has been reading up on alot of rumors about war latley, such as an American spy "backstabbing" America undercover and leaking secrets to another country(That's all I remember him telling me). There was more, I'd just have to ask my friend.

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As cold hearted as it sounds, it is kind of their own fault for living there. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for them, but it is their fault for living there.
When you live on a coast no matter what precautions you take, it is inevitable for something like this to happen.

I live in Louisiana!!!!.... XD.. Just messin. Well I do live in Louisiana, and not too far from New Orleans, but yeah, I somewhat agree with you there.
Darkwind
Sep 13 2005, 02:29 AM
Here is a post I did on the science behind hurricanes.
CLICKIE HERE Smeagol1, you have a pentagram as your avatar. Are ye Christian or Pagan?
ZeroShadow, sorry to hear you are so close to ground zero. That was a mighty storm; my thoughts are with you. Have you been able to return to your home?
saladins follower
Sep 13 2005, 03:09 AM
QUOTE(RH2097 @ Sep 12 2005, 11:36 PM)
As cold hearted as it sounds, it is kind of their own fault for living there. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for them, but it is their fault for living there.
When you live on a coast no matter what precautions you take, it is inevitable for something like this to happen.
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gotta co sign that one
JMPD1
Sep 13 2005, 11:19 AM
As to the storm being a sign of the "end Times", let me point out that the city of Galveston Texas was completely destroyed in a hurricane that pretty much erased the city in 1900.
Casualties ran to 6000+.
So, no, I can't see Katrina being a harbinger of the end of the world. Storm cycles are just that: cycles. Some years you get a lot of relatively weak storms, other years you get slammed.
Same thing with earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, etc. They are all part of the natural life of the planet.
good journey
Smeagol1
Sep 13 2005, 09:30 PM
QUOTE(Darkwind @ Sep 12 2005, 09:29 PM)
Here is a post I did on the science behind hurricanes.
CLICKIE HERE Smeagol1, you have a pentagram as your avatar. Are ye Christian or Pagan?
ZeroShadow, sorry to hear you are so close to ground zero. That was a mighty storm; my thoughts are with you. Have you been able to return to your home?
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corection pentical pentagram is the upside down star and my parents are christan but I have no care for heaven hell or anything. call me Athisit if you want
LarryOldtimer
Sep 13 2005, 09:59 PM
I was referring to the Bible saying that one of the signs of the end times was wars and rumors of wars. The end times can't happen unless all modern communication systems are done away with, if that is the case. "Rumors of wars" means that there is speculation that a war is happening somewhere, but no solid evidence that one is . . . common in days before modern communication systems. There will always be rumors about something or other, but there are no longer rumors of wars . . . except where there are no modern communication systems, or in say the previous USSR and present Communist China where the government absolutely controls what the people are allowed to know.
Paranoid Android
Sep 14 2005, 03:56 AM
I heard the U.S was going to be staying in Iraq for the next three years, fighting their war against terrorism........
Now, whether this statement is true or not, I did hear it. Is that not a rumour of war?
That said, I have to say that Katrina is just a hurricane. I wouldn't think it any more than that. No sign of the end times.......
Regards, PA
primordial
Sep 14 2005, 10:21 PM
QUOTE(Smeagol1 @ Sep 13 2005, 03:30 PM)
QUOTE(Darkwind @ Sep 12 2005, 09:29 PM)
Here is a post I did on the science behind hurricanes.
CLICKIE HERE Smeagol1, you have a pentagram as your avatar. Are ye Christian or Pagan?
ZeroShadow, sorry to hear you are so close to ground zero. That was a mighty storm; my thoughts are with you. Have you been able to return to your home?
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corection pentical pentagram is the upside down star and my parents are christan but I have no care for heaven hell or anything. call me Athisit if you want

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If you knew your Astrology (not astronomy), you would know that pentagram represents. Its the sinister dance of Venus.
zandore
Sep 14 2005, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(primordial)
If you knew your Astrology (not astronomy), you would know that pentagram represents. Its the sinister dance of Venus.
If you look at the star in Smeagols avatar you will see that there is only one point up. The pentagram has two points up. therefor it is not a pentagram.
Kismit
Sep 14 2005, 10:30 PM
Is that Sinister as in, 'to the left,' or is that sinister as in, I'm a big ball of nasty in the sky, look out!
Either way, the pentagram is a lot of things, based perhaps on the movement of Venus. But I have only the Davinci Code to go by on that one, so I'm still open to wether or not it's a fact.
LarryOldtimer
Sep 15 2005, 12:30 AM
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Sep 13 2005, 08:56 PM)
I heard the U.S was going to be staying in Iraq for the next three years, fighting their war against terrorism........
Now, whether this statement is true or not, I did hear it. Is that not a rumour of war?
That said, I have to say that Katrina is just a hurricane. I wouldn't think it any more than that. No sign of the end times.......
Regards, PA
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That is certainly a rumor (or not), but not a rumor of war. The war in Iraq is no rumor. Rumors of wars (as written in the Bible, as signs of the end times) would be speculations that wars are happening (obviously in other places), with no certainty of that being true. Rumors of wars were in fact quite common before the advent of modern communication systems.
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 01:27 AM
Smeagol1
Sep 15 2005, 01:47 AM
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 02:02 AM
QUOTE(zandore @ Sep 14 2005, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE(primordial)
If you knew your Astrology (not astronomy), you would know that pentagram represents. Its the sinister dance of Venus.
If you look at the star in Smeagols avatar you will see that there is only one point up. The pentagram has two points up. therefor it is not a pentagram.

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Pentagram - a star with 5 points; formed by 5 straight lines between the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon.
zandore
Sep 15 2005, 01:17 PM
Loge comparing me to GODZILLA!
No autographs please.
QUOTE(Loge)
Pentagram - a star with 5 points; formed by 5 straight lines between the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon.
So is Smeagol's avatar of a pentagram?
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 02:02 PM
QUOTE(zandore @ Sep 15 2005, 08:17 AM)
Loge comparing me to GODZILLA!
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What deodorant do you use "Old-Specie"?
How OLD is IT?
QUOTE(Loge)
Pentagram - a star with 5 points; formed by 5 straight lines between the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon. So is Smeagol's avatar of a pentagram?
Pentagram from Greek: "having five lines," from pente "five" + gramma "what is written."
USA FLAG HAS FIFTY PENTAGRAMS
zandore
Sep 15 2005, 08:23 PM
Hey Loge do you like my avatar and what I put in my SIG?
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(zandore @ Sep 15 2005, 03:23 PM)
Hey Loge do you like my avatar and what I put in my SIG?
Evolution is both fact and theory; Creationism is neither.

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Yes, Evolution is a fact when we study it together with its twin sister the law of Devolution!
Yes, Evolution is just a theory when we study it from the tridimensional point of view, because evolution and devolution occur in all of the superior and inferior parallel universes of the cosmos!
And yes, Creationism is neither a fact nor a theory; it is just the symbolic thought that explains how the former cosmic process can return to its normal or former condition by means of the will of its own intelligence!
zandore
Sep 15 2005, 09:02 PM
That is not what I was talking about.
Look at my avatar "Godzilla" and the credit I put in my SIG.
QUOTE(My Signature)
Avatar by "LOGE"
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 09:19 PM
QUOTE(zandore @ Sep 15 2005, 04:02 PM)
That is not what I was talking about.
Look at my avatar "Godzilla" and the credit I put in my SIG.
QUOTE(My Signature)
Avatar by "LOGE"
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On the remote island of Lagos (near the Marshal Islands in the South Pacific Ocean), a dinosaur from a species called godzillasaurus over millions of years old, was awakened by naval bombardment during WWII. After being seriously injured by American troops, Godzilla was left to die only to be mutated into a huge fire-breathing monster 10 years later by radiation from atomic tests in the Pacific. In the film, "Godzilla versus King Ghidorah," the details of the origin of Godzilla are visited. His origin was modified by time travelers from the future so that the wounded godzillasaurus was teleported to the Bering Sea, where an accident involving a nuclear submarine in the present day created a larger, more powerful Godzilla.
The Godzilla of 1998 in the Tri-Star movie Godzilla was also created by nuclear testing. Although in this film Godzilla was an enlarged iguana, not a sleeping dinosaur.
Some says Eiji inspired from the American film, "The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms." Other pretend that "Inspiration for Gojira came from the incident of Fukuryu Maru. In 1954, a fishing boat stryed in the waters around the Bikini Atoll atomic testing site. Returning to Japan, the crew was afflicted with a strange illness, one dying as a result. Panic swept through the country, and a recull of tuna was ordered because of the suspicion of contaminiation. The Japanese press labeled the incident 'the second atomic bombing of mankind.'" -- Markalite, Fall 1991
In some Godzilla films released in Germany before 1985, the storylines were altered so that many of Godzilla's opponents were either sent or created by Dr. Frankenstein.
zandore
Sep 15 2005, 09:22 PM
Had to give credit where credit was due!
Loge
Sep 15 2005, 09:43 PM
QUOTE(zandore @ Sep 15 2005, 04:22 PM)
Had to give credit where credit was due!
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Thank you!
But if you want to credit me, then, set this as your avatar!
This is a better avatar!
Ashley-Star*Child
Sep 16 2005, 04:43 AM
I'll agree with the original poster. However, it would take the sky to fall for half the rest of the population to even take notice.
zandore
Sep 16 2005, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(Loge @ Sep 15 2005, 05:43 PM)
NO WAY!
NO WAY NO HOW
Nice try though
zandore
Sep 16 2005, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Sep 16 2005, 12:43 AM)
I'll agree with the original poster. However, it would take the sky to fall for half the rest of the population to even take notice.
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An astroid like what might have killed off the dinosaurs millions of years ago?
blayloch65
Sep 23 2005, 03:39 AM
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As cold hearted as it sounds, it is kind of their own fault for living there. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for them, but it is their fault for living there.
When you live on a coast no matter what precautions you take, it is inevitable for something like this to happen.
How nice would it be if we all could live where ever we wanted.
Ashley-Star*Child
Sep 23 2005, 04:18 AM
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An astroid like what might have killed off the dinosaurs millions of years ago?
Why you're catching up. It WAS an asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs and it kick started like this:
Several asteroid hits into the ocean (there is physical evidence of at least one of these hits in the OCEAN responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs) - several tsunami's - global climatic changes - 40 days of flooding - an eventual Ice Age.
Yes, I'm talking about Noah's flood.

Now, back to Katrina, in light of the fact that her sister Rita is tearing up yet more floods and possibly hitting New Orleans AGAIN, what I've said still stands. What are the odds hey?
~TheArtOfContact~
Sep 23 2005, 04:31 PM
I would only start to get worried when/if in 3 or 4 years, there ends up being a first category 6 or 6 1/2.
StalingradK
Sep 23 2005, 07:35 PM
Why... Will most likely happen, our earth is going into a drastic change right now... And the Ice Age did not happen right after the asteroid his the earth when the Dinosaurs died.... Not even close, you're off a few million years.
lp21why
Sep 23 2005, 07:42 PM
There has been quite a few Ice Ages, initially occuring around 40,000 years apart, so there could have been one just after the asteroid hit. But more recently around 100,000 years apart. So we could be due for one anytime now and all these storms could be an indication of one
starlitkate
Sep 24 2005, 01:00 PM
I do not find it peoples faults for living on the coast. I live on the coast of Maine and right on it. We don't get hurricanes up here but weather is bad especially in winter. Fall is pretties time up here. The way I would look at it is, it's there for to be veiwed and enjoyed. Heck I love looking at the ocean and such. I love the smell of the ocean breeze and the feeling the nice cool breeze in fall time so the sun is still shining but not making a sweat for ya. It'a beautiful and LA is beautiful on the water. That is just the chances you take for taking that fresh breath of ocean air and living out each day to it's last on the ocean to it's life. Grant ya I'd evacuate my home if I had to, but I absolutely love it and imagine these people do. The only ones that are stupid for living on the coast are those that ride the storms out when they have a way to get out of it.
starlitkate
Sep 24 2005, 01:10 PM
And if you read in the bible you will see that it says these things will happen in the end times. Yes it has been going on since beginning of time but what I think God meant is that towards the end times there will be record keeping which started only a couple hundred years ago which is a short blink in the eye to God. And due to the record keeping and technologies of today that this is when people are noticing, weather predicting is getting more advanced by the day, so therefor that is why I think God said to look for this weather in the end times. Now towards the end times I beleive weather will be more severe. They say this is only beginning of the hurricanes. I couldn't imagine any worse consideirng since record keeping begain that this is first record of a Category 4 and 5 hitting the Gulf in same season. Things will only get worse but God says that even in end times after the bad weather, the asteroid hits, the antichrist that people will still be non beleivers to what is really going on. So there will always be those skeptics just like there will always be those beleivers in the Christian end time beleifs.
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