I've been reading this message board for awhile and I've seen numerous people post regarding Ouija and how it works. I posted this once before and people seemed to be taking a lot away from reading it, so I thought I'd stick it up again.
I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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very interesting read. I was wondering if you could post a few examples of Ouija-board "turned wrong" stories that you have come across. I'm too much of a wuss to go and try to experiment with them, but nevertheless am very curious to know both sides of the coin here; meaning some have had very good experiences with Ouija boards, while others didn't.
Also, you have mentioned this:
Do you mean that the probability of a loved ones who has passed away using a Ouija board as a mean to get a message across to still living relatives are null and that only bad spirits are known to use these channels?
Having said that, I have just thought of another question. Could you explain to me what those bad spirits, entities, demons and such, are if not passed over beings?
Looking forward to your response.
All the best in your research.
Also, you have mentioned this:
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Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices.
Do you mean that the probability of a loved ones who has passed away using a Ouija board as a mean to get a message across to still living relatives are null and that only bad spirits are known to use these channels?
Having said that, I have just thought of another question. Could you explain to me what those bad spirits, entities, demons and such, are if not passed over beings?
Looking forward to your response.
All the best in your research.
Hello again Morgen,
Thanks for "re-posting" this topic. I agree completely with your views and explanations.
Good Luck with your investigations and research! Albertans are very lucky to have your organization in their province.
Thanks for "re-posting" this topic. I agree completely with your views and explanations.
Good Luck with your investigations and research! Albertans are very lucky to have your organization in their province.
QUOTE(morgan_demonologist @ Sep 11 2005, 02:38 PM)
I've been reading this message board for awhile and I've seen numerous people post regarding Ouija and how it works. I posted this once before and people seemed to be taking a lot away from reading it, so I thought I'd stick it up again.
I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I agree totally. I am not a Demonologist or anything like that but I have read and studied on the subject for many years and know what you are saying is true. It is just asking for trouble
Hi...
Listen to what this person has said about demons. From close friends of mine, they warned me to stay away from the OUIJA because of demonic forces. I know of too many stories that could chill you to the bone.
Listen to what this person has said about demons. From close friends of mine, they warned me to stay away from the OUIJA because of demonic forces. I know of too many stories that could chill you to the bone.
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QUOTE(morgan_demonologist @ Sep 11 2005, 02:38 PM)
I've been reading this message board for awhile and I've seen numerous people post regarding Ouija and how it works. I posted this once before and people seemed to be taking a lot away from reading it, so I thought I'd stick it up again.
I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I agree totally. I am not a Demonologist or anything like that but I have read and studied on the subject for many years and know what you are saying is true. It is just asking for trouble
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Then you are Demonologist, all a person needs for credentials is Interest and Belief.
HI Morgan... 
Theoretically speaking... how doesn one do an Ouija board "safely"... how does one in theory protect oneself (besides NOT doing it lol). If someone was going to do it no matter what what would be your advice or safety tips?
Theoretically speaking... how doesn one do an Ouija board "safely"... how does one in theory protect oneself (besides NOT doing it lol). If someone was going to do it no matter what what would be your advice or safety tips?
HI welcome to um.. There are so many threads on this topic it's hard to believe people still mess with the Ouijia board. I guess they just don't understand the dangerous of letting something into their home's and their life's..To bad once you have opened the window it is almost impossible to close it back, so i hope everytime someone does a post on this subject other's will listen..The devil does love a fool you know. 
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QUOTE(soonerlover @ Sep 11 2005, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE(morgan_demonologist @ Sep 11 2005, 02:38 PM)
I've been reading this message board for awhile and I've seen numerous people post regarding Ouija and how it works. I posted this once before and people seemed to be taking a lot away from reading it, so I thought I'd stick it up again.
I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I agree totally. I am not a Demonologist or anything like that but I have read and studied on the subject for many years and know what you are saying is true. It is just asking for trouble
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Then you are Demonologist, all a person needs for credentials is Interest and Belief.
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Would'nt there be a lot more demonologists then?
Maybe the Demonologists of the world should unite and either go after Parker Bros, or Toys R Us and boycott them for selling these tools to the unwary public....
Kinda reminds me of the time that Dungeons and Dragons was said to be the cause of the sudden increase in occult practices.....
And one more thing, would the use of tape recorders for EVP be the same thing as using a ouija board? I mean, you are trying to communicate after all. I asked this question a while back, but got no reply.....
Safe practices are making sure that the spirit goes away NOT MATTER WHAT, even if they started breaking things and what not, you must make sure the spirit goes away before you put the board away and end the communications. By going away, I mean proving to the spirit you won't tolerate, and you will not be afraid of it and tell it to f**k off basically.
QUOTE(StalingradK @ Sep 11 2005, 06:29 PM)
Safe practices are making sure that the spirit goes away NOT MATTER WHAT, even if they started breaking things and what not, you must make sure the spirit goes away before you put the board away and end the communications. By going away, I mean proving to the spirit you won't tolerate, and you will not be afraid of it and tell it to f**k off basically.
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I have no idea about oiji whatever boards but i know invoking spirits and other stuff your suppose to challenge it by a name of a god or power. Might work for ooijia boards.
And if you studied about demons you know not all ghost are demons.
I've played the ouija board numerous times in the past, but of course, nothing ever happened. However, using the same Ouija board (it was a parker bros.) people have experienced some odd things. It was my board to begin with but I wonder why whenever I am around playing along, nothing ever happens.. 
Hello
I havent had any experinces with a Ouija board, but my mother has. She told me that while her friends and herself were using one an axe went through the door of her bedroom. (I dont believe this but my mother swaers it is true). She also had glasses smashing, banging on walls etc. When her father came around to getting rid of it he tried putting an axe through it but it didnt break and they tried burning it and it didnt burn. in the end they gave it next door neighbours. anyway i find ghosts and sprits intresting good luck with your research.
I havent had any experinces with a Ouija board, but my mother has. She told me that while her friends and herself were using one an axe went through the door of her bedroom. (I dont believe this but my mother swaers it is true). She also had glasses smashing, banging on walls etc. When her father came around to getting rid of it he tried putting an axe through it but it didnt break and they tried burning it and it didnt burn. in the end they gave it next door neighbours. anyway i find ghosts and sprits intresting good luck with your research.
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Welcome to UM
QUOTE(morgan_demonologist @ Sep 11 2005, 07:38 PM)
I've been reading this message board for awhile and I've seen numerous people post regarding Ouija and how it works. I posted this once before and people seemed to be taking a lot away from reading it, so I thought I'd stick it up again.
I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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I have been a field researcher in the paranormal and specifically in demonology for over a decade and am currently with Alberta's ENTITYSEEKER/Paranormal Explorers. The majority of our emails that we recieve are people looking for assistance because they are in the first stage of a hostile spirit infestation due to playing with these devices.
Now the reason that Ouija boards are dangerous is not because the board is 'haunted' or that the board itself is 'evil'. A concept I recently explained to a client was that there is a process called The Law of Invitation. Using this, approaching a communication instrument such as a Ouija board and asking a spirit to come forth and communicate or enter the home will result in exactly that: Your new roommate. Some may use a board and not have any trouble, just as some may enter a chatroom and have no problems. But the bottom line is you don't know who you are entrusting your information to. You don't know who or if you are permitting something into your home.
Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices. They are typically at peace and have other ways of letting their loved ones know they are alright. Entities, demons, evil spirits, no matter what you want to call them, linger like pedophiles on these "channels" looking for the naive and the grieving. It's a lot easier to gain someone's trust if they aren't knowlegable about how to protect themselves or if they are looking for a specific loved one. There has been cases of people having relationships with these entities over the board for over five years before entering the home and causing unlimited amounts of problems.
Opinions may differ on this subject, I can only offer my personal experience and research that I have conducted over the years.
If anyone has any questions regarding the Ouija or other communication devices regarding these subjects, please email ENTITYSEEKER or myself.
Team: entityseeker@gmail.com
Myself: nine.gates@gmail.com
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AMEN
good luck on your work
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And one more thing, would the use of tape recorders for EVP be the same thing as using a ouija board? I mean, you are trying to communicate after all. I asked this question a while back, but got no reply.....
Hoagy,
I would also like to see the demonologist answer this one...
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In my opinion, It's common sense...IF there are things out there, do they really want to be bothered? And once bothered, of course they are going to react...another way of saying that same thing is, when you mess with something/someone/whatever enough, sooner or later it will fight back...
people are digging their own graves...no pun intended
I've used a Ouija Board and something called a Psychic Circle, which is similar.
Absolutely nothing happened. At least 10 attempts that all failed. Sorry, but I think they are BS.
Absolutely nothing happened. At least 10 attempts that all failed. Sorry, but I think they are BS.
I read that alot of demonic possesions start from messing with the Ouji Board
I am a complete and total skeptic when it comes to the Ouija Board. In fact, I believe it is to be within the same psychological phenomena as Voodoo. If in fact one believes in Voodoo...then Voodoo can destroy one. If on the other hand one finds it a silly belief...it has no power over one at all. Ouija is just so much Voodoo. If you believe you have opened a door and demons are coming through then...a door has been opened and demons are coming through. In reality however, there is no door, there are no demons, and Ouija and Voodoo equate the same psychological dysfunction.
So, I would say to those who believe in demons and opening doors and such...stay away from the Ouija Board. For those who think all of that demon stuff is just so much nonsense...go for it..it is fun and interesting.
So, I would say to those who believe in demons and opening doors and such...stay away from the Ouija Board. For those who think all of that demon stuff is just so much nonsense...go for it..it is fun and interesting.
Hello everyone. I am new to the board. I registered to ask a question and get your opinions.
What would you take from it if the quiji board called you gold. No matter what quiji(friends or yours) board it was. No matter if you were playing or just watching. And people that were playing it never knew that it called you gold.
I know a very strange question. And I never thought about it. here is a little back ground.
I used to own a quiji board. As did other people I know. And when I first started playing it was fun and really it was always fun but to the quiji board my name was GOLD. I went to a persons house once and the quiji board came up in a convo. I do not remember why. I said I would watch. The quiji said it wanted to talk to gold the hole time. These people did not know I ever used it. THis was about 6 to7 years ago.
I have more stories about it if anyone is interested. I never really brought it up to others as I thought most would just think I was crazy............
What would you take from it if the quiji board called you gold. No matter what quiji(friends or yours) board it was. No matter if you were playing or just watching. And people that were playing it never knew that it called you gold.
I know a very strange question. And I never thought about it. here is a little back ground.
I used to own a quiji board. As did other people I know. And when I first started playing it was fun and really it was always fun but to the quiji board my name was GOLD. I went to a persons house once and the quiji board came up in a convo. I do not remember why. I said I would watch. The quiji said it wanted to talk to gold the hole time. These people did not know I ever used it. THis was about 6 to7 years ago.
I have more stories about it if anyone is interested. I never really brought it up to others as I thought most would just think I was crazy............
Welcome to the UM boards,
Maybe gold is a person the spirit loved... or was just close to them, maybe even a pet or possession.
Maybe gold is a person the spirit loved... or was just close to them, maybe even a pet or possession.
Read the book "Ouija, The Most Dangerous Game" available at Amazon. com. It is not a game although it is made by parker brothers. I have a board and have great respect for it. I use it often but I also have respect for the spirits that come through.
Nothing ever bad has happened to me. No hauntings in my home or anything. I see stories about bad things from the board but I never had anything bad happen. Strange but not bad
Thanks for the welcome. I really like this place. Nice people and good topics.
Thanks for the welcome. I really like this place. Nice people and good topics.
Bad things only happen to the inexperienced....
I agree it is not a game. But I also belive there are people that can handle things better then others. Like. Some are more open to things. I believe Spirits are around you no matter if you have a quiji board or not.
Talking to spirits can be done on many many levels also. Dreams IMO are a way. Some say they are not a way to talk to the spirits though
Talking to spirits can be done on many many levels also. Dreams IMO are a way. Some say they are not a way to talk to the spirits though
Ouijas are no fun at all. They hurt Moe greatly. A bully named Stan once gave us a ouija all the way up to our neck.
This was most uncomfortable.
This was most uncomfortable.
Moe, I am laughing so hard i can not type..Your so crazy.. Moe knows..that should be your new thing.... 
how come you never hear on the news " boy dies from using a oijia board"? ive never even heard of an injury in the real news. other then that "demonic possession" can be easily faked, and being scared of a noise while using the board made by parker brothers.....just has no validity of being spiritual at all. although, if you really fool yourself into believing your frined isnt moving the thing then you might just be talking to a spirit. if so you would be famous if you could prove it....
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Hoagy,
I would also like to see the demonologist answer this one...
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In my opinion, It's common sense...IF there are things out there, do they really want to be bothered? And once bothered, of course they are going to react...another way of saying that same thing is, when you mess with something/someone/whatever enough, sooner or later it will fight back...
people are digging their own graves...no pun intended
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Exactly, so far no one has given me an answer to that question.... so I still wait, with baited breath....
And please, come on, its a STATE OF MIND! all this stuff about demon possession coming about from ouija boards
and before I get the backlash of 'well, have you ever done one' the answer is yes, plenty of times. It is a parlour trick, nothing more, nothing less....
i agree with you hoagy that it isnt any worst then doing evps or using a pendulum or scrying or anything like that. You have the same risks when using or doing anything with the spirit realm. I have used mine for many years and i also make them and have never had any problems with em. I think when something bad happens it can be mostly blamed on the user for not knowing what they are doing or other factors involved. Its not a toy.
l used the ouija board when l was young with some friends and we asked the board if the spirt liked everyone in the room and the board replyed no . then we asked who it didn't like and the board spelled out my name .
l didn't realize at the time when l was playing with it but l believe now that the reason the board didn't like me because l was the only one in my group who believes in god and if the spirt was a demon of course it would hate me and not the others.
l found this on the internet l found interesting
http://www.paranormality.com/ouija_board.shtml
and on the website it mentions ;
Some of the more popular myths and superstitions surrounding the board include:
1). Never play the board alone.
2). Should the planchette move to the four corners of the board then an evil spirit has been invoked.
3). Should the planchette fall from the board a spirit will get loose.
4). A Ouija Board will scream on attempts to burn it, and if it is heard the unfortunate listener will have a mere thirty six hours to live.
5). Never ask about the following: potential death dates (when might I die?), God or buried gold and treasure.
l know after my experience with the board l wouldn't dabble with it
l didn't realize at the time when l was playing with it but l believe now that the reason the board didn't like me because l was the only one in my group who believes in god and if the spirt was a demon of course it would hate me and not the others.
l found this on the internet l found interesting
http://www.paranormality.com/ouija_board.shtml
and on the website it mentions ;
Some of the more popular myths and superstitions surrounding the board include:
1). Never play the board alone.
2). Should the planchette move to the four corners of the board then an evil spirit has been invoked.
3). Should the planchette fall from the board a spirit will get loose.
4). A Ouija Board will scream on attempts to burn it, and if it is heard the unfortunate listener will have a mere thirty six hours to live.
5). Never ask about the following: potential death dates (when might I die?), God or buried gold and treasure.
l know after my experience with the board l wouldn't dabble with it
I and my sisters , and numerous friends tried numerous times to get thet triangle thing to move....I will even post it here...I hate to sound so negative , I am not that way here...But here is my challenge....Any Demons brave enough "bring it on" ....
I will post if naything strange happenns tonight..Personally , I think it is all in ones mind, and if you fear it enough , your mind will bring it.....
oh , the triangle never moved
I will post if naything strange happenns tonight..Personally , I think it is all in ones mind, and if you fear it enough , your mind will bring it.....
oh , the triangle never moved
QUOTE(fawkes2 @ Sep 12 2005, 08:31 PM)
Some of the more popular myths and superstitions surrounding the board include:
1). Never play the board alone.
2). Should the planchette move to the four corners of the board then an evil spirit has been invoked.
3). Should the planchette fall from the board a spirit will get loose.
4). A Ouija Board will scream on attempts to burn it, and if it is heard the unfortunate listener will have a mere thirty six hours to live.
5). Never ask about the following: potential death dates (when might I die?), God or buried gold and treasure.
l know after my experience with the board l wouldn't dabble with it
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1). Never play the board alone.
2). Should the planchette move to the four corners of the board then an evil spirit has been invoked.
3). Should the planchette fall from the board a spirit will get loose.
4). A Ouija Board will scream on attempts to burn it, and if it is heard the unfortunate listener will have a mere thirty six hours to live.
5). Never ask about the following: potential death dates (when might I die?), God or buried gold and treasure.
l know after my experience with the board l wouldn't dabble with it
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I would question anyone who sets out groundrules about something like this, some of them just seem downright crazy, 36 hours to live??? please!
And also, you were singled out because you believe in god??? so that automativally makes it a demon? what if it was the spirit of an atheist, I mean, if they are trapped in a 'netherworld' they're gonna be pretty pissed. I dont believe in god anyways, so I really dont know what to make of that comment
You get out of it what you put into it, whatever 'materialises' is an extension of your subconcious, nothing more.
I am starting to sound like a stuck record lol
This isn't the Spritual section of the forum but it seems that when it comes to Ouija there are those who believe in Demonic Spirits and those who don't. I believe in God but I don't believe you can access Demonic Spirits in any fashion. So, my question is, how many here believe in Demons coming through the Ouija board, who also do not believe in God...
....or am I just looking for trouble?
....or am I just looking for trouble?
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....or am I just looking for trouble?
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looking for trouble mate haha!
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I would question anyone who sets out groundrules about something like this, some of them just seem downright crazy, 36 hours to live??? please! rolleyes.gif
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I would question anyone who sets out groundrules about something like this, some of them just seem downright crazy, 36 hours to live??? please! rolleyes.gif
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that is why it is a myth (neverproven and proably would never happen ).
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And also, you were singled out because you believe in god??? so that automativally makes it a demon? what if it was the spirit of an atheist, I mean, if they are trapped in a 'netherworld' they're gonna be pretty pissed. I dont believe in god anyways, so I really dont know what to make of that comment
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And also, you were singled out because you believe in god??? so that automativally makes it a demon? what if it was the spirit of an atheist, I mean, if they are trapped in a 'netherworld' they're gonna be pretty pissed. I dont believe in god anyways, so I really dont know what to make of that comment
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l said IF it was a demon , it could of been a spirt who just didn't like me.
lol.... I think it's very interesting to play. I have only played once, but the whole time, I am thinking people are moving it, but it said some pretty bad things about my g/f's mother and I know she and everybody else playing would have never said those things. I was told by my g/f that they invoked a spirit through it before and one time it threw the board at one of the players. I can't believe all that because I haven't seen it, but I still believe in demons and spirits. I have actually tried to provoke a demon we were talking to just to get him to do something to prove his existence, but nothing happened, but then again, from the first posting, he must still be in the house. I have no clue though.
Hi, this is my first post here but I have something interesting to add to the topic of Ouija boards.
My mother owned one for as long as I can remember and we fooled around with it every now and then. Nothing bad ever happened but we did get some scares. I have always been on the fence about whether or not we are actually communicating with spirits.
About six months ago I decided to do an experiment to see if we could get to the bottom of what makes the planchette move. I blindfolded a friend and I was also blindfolded and we put our hands on the planchette in the usual way. It moved around like always, but spelled out complete gibberish. ( Someone else was watching and recording what was spelled).
Prior to that we had used it without blindfolds and talked with a typical ghost/spirit. The words then were actual words.
This leads me to believe it is our mind which makes it move... our subconcious I guess you could say. Although we didn't push the planchette to certain letters on purpose, nor did we "will" what words would be spelled out, I think our minds do it for us when we visually see the alphabet in front of us. We aren't even aware we are doing it.
I think if people believe they are inviting bad demons and spirits into their houses through the Ouija board, they would get the exact same result if they just stood in their living room and invited the spirits by speaking to them.
My mother owned one for as long as I can remember and we fooled around with it every now and then. Nothing bad ever happened but we did get some scares. I have always been on the fence about whether or not we are actually communicating with spirits.
About six months ago I decided to do an experiment to see if we could get to the bottom of what makes the planchette move. I blindfolded a friend and I was also blindfolded and we put our hands on the planchette in the usual way. It moved around like always, but spelled out complete gibberish. ( Someone else was watching and recording what was spelled).
Prior to that we had used it without blindfolds and talked with a typical ghost/spirit. The words then were actual words.
This leads me to believe it is our mind which makes it move... our subconcious I guess you could say. Although we didn't push the planchette to certain letters on purpose, nor did we "will" what words would be spelled out, I think our minds do it for us when we visually see the alphabet in front of us. We aren't even aware we are doing it.
I think if people believe they are inviting bad demons and spirits into their houses through the Ouija board, they would get the exact same result if they just stood in their living room and invited the spirits by speaking to them.
Excellent, well said RedHead, and welcome to UM
Welcome to UM Redhead, but I believe a board brings more "fenece" to the situation, and trys to invoke spirits more...
QUOTE(joc @ Sep 12 2005, 07:46 PM)
I am a complete and total skeptic when it comes to the Ouija Board. In fact, I believe it is to be within the same psychological phenomena as Voodoo. If in fact one believes in Voodoo...then Voodoo can destroy one. If on the other hand one finds it a silly belief...it has no power over one at all. Ouija is just so much Voodoo. If you believe you have opened a door and demons are coming through then...a door has been opened and demons are coming through. In reality however, there is no door, there are no demons, and Ouija and Voodoo equate the same psychological dysfunction.
So, I would say to those who believe in demons and opening doors and such...stay away from the Ouija Board. For those who think all of that demon stuff is just so much nonsense...go for it..it is fun and interesting.
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So, I would say to those who believe in demons and opening doors and such...stay away from the Ouija Board. For those who think all of that demon stuff is just so much nonsense...go for it..it is fun and interesting.
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wow, very well put, the thread should of ended HERE.
Who are you to say where a thread should end? With a good places question, it could go on pages more.
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Who are you to say where a thread should end? With a good places question, it could go on pages more.
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It was another way of saying "well put" , next topic. Showing how my beliefs matched w/ his. It was just an "expression" that i figured everyone would take into their brains. Apparently we don't all use them though
I think the difference between asking questions through the EVP rec and the Ouija is that instead of asking for "any spirit" through the Ouija, you are asking for a specific spirit in a location through the EVp. Otherwise, I don't think there is a lot of difference, but I believe mindset also has a lot to do with it.
Hoagy,
I would also like to see the demonologist answer this one...
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In my opinion, It's common sense...IF there are things out there, do they really want to be bothered? And once bothered, of course they are going to react...another way of saying that same thing is, when you mess with something/someone/whatever enough, sooner or later it will fight back...
people are digging their own graves...no pun intended
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QUOTE(distortedpandy @ Sep 12 2005, 10:09 AM)
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And one more thing, would the use of tape recorders for EVP be the same thing as using a ouija board? I mean, you are trying to communicate after all. I asked this question a while back, but got no reply.....
Hoagy,
I would also like to see the demonologist answer this one...
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In my opinion, It's common sense...IF there are things out there, do they really want to be bothered? And once bothered, of course they are going to react...another way of saying that same thing is, when you mess with something/someone/whatever enough, sooner or later it will fight back...
people are digging their own graves...no pun intended
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As for examples, the best idea is to read OUIJA A DANGEROUS game by a fellow named Brittle. It's excellent.
As to what "demons" are, who knows? I honestly can't answer that but I believe that there is a whole spiritual realm that remains untapped and we'll experience it when we "bite the dust".
From my study, I have found that the human presence in relation to nasty spirits is low, and that there is more of a risk of finding a bad apple than a good one. Personally, I wouldn't want to take the chance.
As to what "demons" are, who knows? I honestly can't answer that but I believe that there is a whole spiritual realm that remains untapped and we'll experience it when we "bite the dust".
From my study, I have found that the human presence in relation to nasty spirits is low, and that there is more of a risk of finding a bad apple than a good one. Personally, I wouldn't want to take the chance.
QUOTE(wabbit @ Sep 11 2005, 12:50 PM)
very interesting read. I was wondering if you could post a few examples of Ouija-board "turned wrong" stories that you have come across. I'm too much of a wuss to go and try to experiment with them, but nevertheless am very curious to know both sides of the coin here; meaning some have had very good experiences with Ouija boards, while others didn't.
Also, you have mentioned this:
Do you mean that the probability of a loved ones who has passed away using a Ouija board as a mean to get a message across to still living relatives are null and that only bad spirits are known to use these channels?
Having said that, I have just thought of another question. Could you explain to me what those bad spirits, entities, demons and such, are if not passed over beings?
Looking forward to your response.
All the best in your research.
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Also, you have mentioned this:
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Human spirits typically have no use for communicating on these devices.
Do you mean that the probability of a loved ones who has passed away using a Ouija board as a mean to get a message across to still living relatives are null and that only bad spirits are known to use these channels?
Having said that, I have just thought of another question. Could you explain to me what those bad spirits, entities, demons and such, are if not passed over beings?
Looking forward to your response.
All the best in your research.
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still no demons here....and I pulled out the board...I totally agree with the post on "blindfolded"...as I said , our minds can do crazy things , if we let them
My dad was thrown across the room while using a Ouija-board.
I strongly do NOT recomend using these things.
I strongly do NOT recomend using these things.
Interesting probably only to myself the number of new memberships created to post in this particular topic.
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