[SIZE=7]Okay, peeps... well, I went out to the 1960 overpass/ train track area in Humble, Texas and took some pics. I took some with my throw away and, thanks to Clint, I have some really good photos from his digital camera. I'm not sure if I am going to post them on here or not because I have no clue as to how at the moment, but again, thanks to Clint. I am waiting on some more. We didn't see anything frightening, but we caught several orbs from there and a cemetery down the road from there. Anyway, as I have said before, the church is no longer a church... it is now a storage business. The theater is still there... it doesn't look as if anybody can go in there now. Actually, to me, it looked as if the outside was pretty new... I don't know if they just painted it or if they remodeled the whole thing or if it actually looked like that in the first place... the cemetery is still there, in the same location... thanks to Clint, I now know exactly where that location is. It's scattered all throughout the woods. I think the reason for us not actually seeing anything is because there was a total of 22 people there... you know how it is... friends invite friends, who invite friends... etc... that's about it... I think here in the next couple of weeks I am going to plan a trip out there without anybody else, except for a selected few... maybe that'll make something appear to the naked eye. There's supposedly three pics on here for you all to check out. Write back for all comments.

These pics always appear to be nothing but dark... plus a few gravestones. Boring. I'm glad your going and doing investigations... but show up something exciting. Try and get some audio if you've got the tech. I remember the original post reported a lot of strange noises.

i think you just need to go out there(for yourself) if you want somethen strange to happen then, all we get is orbs and pics with red eyes each time. we did do the tape recordings before but nothing at all.

Hey guys. It's been a while. Small crowds are better. Call me next time you guys wanna go somewhere and there is only a few people. With all the respects, so offense intended, I am asian and my culture believes in ghosts, but they appear more as shadows, body parts, dis-embodied noises, sometimes you can't even tell because they look life-like. And that's how they sometimes lure people or trick them into doing freak things that don't make sense that people usually don't do. So in general, we all have the same beliefs, but I'm not a big believer on orbs. But who am I to say they don't exist, some could be real.

Hey, if you guys ever have a large group to go , but don't know of a place, let's go to The Saratoga Ghostlights. A large group is always needed there. It really remote there and swamps on both sides, hence swamp gas term. You turn of some country roads, and go down a dirt road that stretches for 8-10 miles. Nothing around. this strech is where we need to spread poeple out in cars so that are set up to where if the lights appear, we can be on both sides of it and close in at more then one angle. Last time, I saw the last, I was only with another person, in one car and could not catch it. It appeard to be no more than 100 yards away, but traveling 40 mph down a dirt for at least 3 miles, we could not gain any ground. I don't know what the source of light was from. Headlights are what some say, though they never have been out there. I would like to say headlights, unless someone can drive more then 40 miles an hour in reverse down a dirt road and still get away from us, because headlights travel towards you. It's something else other than that, just don't know hat.

I've already gone to the Ghost Road, Tony. It is true, but I'm not sure if a big crowd is a good idea. See, you can see headlights coming towards you for several miles down that road, hence, people get tricked all the time into thinking the headlights are ghost lights. Now, I have seen the ghost light before, and it will trick you into thinking that it is a car, but it is definitely not a car. But if somebody is headed down that way, i am interested in going. I'm not sure if my g/f really wants to do that again because of gas prices and all, and I don't have a vehicle at the moment. But I am definitely interested.

IF you all do go, bring a video recorder, I wanna see it all on film!

do you have pictures of your visit? Especially if you drove that far right? Bring a large group would be ideal. It is a large piece of land, spreading out to circle a the source of light would qwork better.
I understand why you would say that, but that was not the case. I went there to prove that headlights were the logical explanation, and I did see headlights there. My question is what was sitting on the middle of the dirt road looked like a lattern. people seem to always say headlight. Logics, if you see headlights, which would be a pair of lights, it would make it's way towards you. If the headlights were moving directly towards you, depth perception and judgement on distance is hard to calculate, but then again, you can judge by brightness in light. Anyone who has been there knows that the tree cover above creates a tunnel effect. There was no light reflecting off the trees. Anyways, you only see headlights if a vehicle is coming at you not away. If the car was coming at you and going down an road paralell to you, you will see it pass next to you on the other side of the trees. But why is it the the light was on the road was blue, then green, then redish single light, and did not move. I took 6 pictures of it, one with my flash off to see if it was my flash reflecting, watched it for another ten minutes, then drove towards it for another 10 minutes at the rate of 35 mph, not gaining any distance on it, and then it dimmed away. i'm pretty sure I would have gone head on into the car, and lightning bugs don't light up that long or bright, especially blue greenish and a little red.
Story has it that it the ghost of the mother guiding her children home or the headless brakeman.

Only thing I can think of is Ball Lightening again.

What's your conclusion to this source of light?



You guys did EVP's?.... What program did you process it through. You can't hear it if the Hertz are too low or low frequency. Orbs are dust orbs and 22 people are too many for a small area as that one. So why is it that when I say Saratoga Ghost Lights, you say too many people isn't good if Saratoga is a town at the end of the eight mile dirt road in the heart of Big Thicket National Preservation? 22 people in Saratoga can still get lost individually in the swamplands. It's a few thousand square acres. Having that many people spread out, you should be able to dispatch any given person at any given location at any time, comunication links using 2-way radios and hand help GPS. I also have a Gen-3 NVG night vision goggles.

I've been with you to a cemetery, your 2.0 got orbs, my 4.0 megapixel pictures were all clear and bright. No orbs on mine.

No offense intended but that makes pictures questionable.

It's refreshing to see that some threads actually do deal with the paranormal in a more or less scientific way. I was kind of losing hope about this forum (it does hold true for 90% of the posts, though).

You can always trust NME to have very well thought out, logical things to discuss.

Hey Eva..
Welcome to UM Macedonian,
People seem to think that skeptics and critics are the same. They are not. I am very "open minded", speaking of which goes both ways. A believer of the paranormal would say to a skeptic, to be open minded. Someone who truly believes can in the paranormal should not criticize a skeptic, because that will mean that the believer is not open minded towards science. I very much believe that there are ghosts and paranormal activity, but what I have learned is that skeptics become a valued part of the team because they help to identify if the experience was truly paranormal, or if it is science and nature. Doing so, will help save paranormal researchers time and effort. Skeptics filter out the fake ones so that paranormal investigators can focus on the authentic causes that can not be explained. Some don't agree with me, and say that skeptics have a low IQ, or don't attempt to think deeply or that they are simply passive and narrow minded. I think not, by me being able to solve certain paranormal activities is very fullfilling, so the ones that I am unsuccessful at explaining only makes true haunting more authentic and credible.

Full props NNE, you nailed it

I think "skeptic" became a derogatory term because there are so many who are so hard core, that they fail to be objective.

Hi newbie here, and I agree 100% with NME. I think a "skeptic" is a wonderful addition to any investigation team.
I would love to go on an investigation and have someone that was there for the scientific side of it.
I think I am going to enjoy it here at this board! Seems like a very good selection of topics, and a unique blend of members with all types of views.

It's good to see so many people here are so interested in this topic. On the other hand, there are many that are with um for unknown reasons, or they are way too immature/inexperienced to even fit in. They just like hearing people talk about experiences. I myself, am not that experienced, but I do have some experience in this field. I may not carry around equipment, but I have what's necessary for me to do what I want to do when I go ghost hunting; that is to prove to MYSELF that there really is a spiritual life. Before I started with um, I was a non-believer. I still don't believe in God and the Devil, although I do believe in good and evil. I have seen orbs, whatever they may actually be, and believe that they have something to do with the supernatural. But all you hunters and investigators keep up the good work. Let's hear more stories on here and keep proving that there really is supernatural. Now, I'd like to get back on the topic of The Ghost Road in Saratoga,Tx. I have been there twice now. I have actually seen the light and know for a fact that it wasn't headlights, although there was this one time... I went there about a month ago, and saw the light. It changed colors and everything... everything the light actually does... except get closer... then it disappeared. The thing that had me fooled is the fact that not long after it disappeared, another light came on... a brighter light. I thought it was the ghost light at first, but when I kept on going, the light split into two lights with two little yellow lights on each side... headlights. From a distance, any headlights look like one big light, but when it gets closer, you can make it out better... But, we are semi- planning a trip there. Also, some friends of my girlfriend are planning a trip to some asylum in San Antonio... does anybody have any info on that one?

I live about 30 minutes away from the Saratoga Bragg Light Rd. and I've been a couple of times yet I have yet to see anything. The most I've ever had in my car is 2 other people, and they never said they saw anything. I also have been to the place in Humble but was disapointed to see that the church was not there any more. It took me awhile to find the location just for that fact. I thought I was in the wron place. I didn't see a graveyard except for the one that is down the road with a fence around it. If someone could message or e-mail me with the location I'd appreciate it. Or is it right under my nose and I'm missing it? The only place I coud see where it would be is in the patch of woods or grass behind the storage place, or on the opposite side of the overpass in a fenced in area of woods.

My mom's church covered this topic today. Apparently someone in the church found about the cemetery and was upset over the treatment of the dead. Long story short:

In 1933 Humble decided to become "all white"; so the blacks were moved over there, and the ones who died later joined them. They were forgot by most of the city and such, until a few years ago, when the church found out. According to them, they've spent thousands of dollars surveying the land, tracking down family members of the deceased, and finding the current owners of the land (apparently the train company [my mom's notes were pretty thin on details]).

Anyway, they asked for volunteers to help, and will be there this saturday (8am) to begin restoring the place. If you want to go, they are meeting at the big metal gate (which they had built) in front of the woods. To get there, just go under the underpass, past ex-G&G; it's next to the lawnmower place with bible quotes.