dragonlady_mothman
Sep 14 2005, 11:53 PM
These are awesome. Just like the guy says, why are these genetic "flaws" so pretty?!
_Nyx_
Sep 14 2005, 11:59 PM
God, they're gorgeous! I might need to get one.....
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 12:23 AM
Anyone got a preference? Jeez...i got so many...the dark one with the tint of irredescent blue is a favorite, the albinos, the hyper-melanistics, the jaguars...
Gary O
Sep 15 2005, 03:15 AM
Funny this subject came up here. I am a reptile Breeder. I own The Reptile Room.
The Albino Ball Pythns are great looking I believe there are 47 different proven morphs in the Ball Python Species. The Corn Snake has many more though maybe up to near 70.
But these snakes are breed to produce these now. The breeder will hold back the best looking ones to breed later.
Monster Hunter X
Sep 15 2005, 07:07 AM
the best ball python morphs are at N.E.R.D. or Newenglandreptile. those are pretty nice but N.E.R.D. has the most gorgeous ones i think. being a big reptile fan and keeper myself i reccomend them if u wanna buy one. visit the ball python gallery
herealso, check out the rest of their reptiles. This is a place i highly reccomend!
I like the hypos, but my fav is the Caramel Albino Morph. they're insanely awesome.
buuuut all of them still cant take the place of my beautiful Green Anaconda!
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 10:43 AM
He is a bueaty!
Sauvagii
Sep 15 2005, 01:51 PM
I work for
Peter Kahl and he has some amazing stuff. Not all of it is on the website, I am going to be updating that soon. Check out his Piebald, Lavender Albino, and Leucistic balls. He also has some drop dead Boas on there. I never knew there were so many UM herpers!
www.pkreptiles.com
Gary O
Sep 15 2005, 03:49 PM
I do not recommend NERD at all. There are other reasons why and this is not the place to talk aout it. Lets just say they placed children in danger to show off.
Peter Kahl is another that some of his actions has me wondering about things but I know he has never placed a child in danger. BHB Enterprize has some very nice Ball pythons.
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 07:29 PM
I looked at this Ralph Davis' person's prices...jeez, are they all going to be that far up there?!
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 07:52 PM
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 07:53 PM
Gary O
Sep 15 2005, 08:22 PM
What type of info are you looking for. Some snakes were breed to get the morph others were breed and were a suprise.
Pieds go for a nice prise and havekinda leveled off. Them are the ones with a lot of white.
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 08:26 PM
Color and pattern anomalies, what they're called, and so forth...
I like the piebald.
Greeling
Sep 15 2005, 08:56 PM
yeah some morphs are pretty but personally i'm into normals i just love it when i see a perfect pattern on a "wild type" snake *sigh* natural beauty is best
and hybrids too i have a hybrid rat snake and hes just beautiful, and the other day a someone showed me a bateater (burm X rectic) oh i love the eyes i wish i had the space for an animal that big...
my baby
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/10/snake3small0ns.jpgbateater
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/retic_bateater.html
Sauvagii
Sep 15 2005, 08:57 PM
I would check out
www.kingsnake.com they have a bunch of forums about genetics and color mutations in all snakes. If you have any specific questions you can pm me. Like Gary O said the
piebald balls are nice and are more affordable.
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 08:59 PM
They are lovely!
dragonlady_mothman
Sep 15 2005, 09:06 PM
QUOTE(Sauvagii @ Sep 15 2005, 03:57 PM)
I would check out
www.kingsnake.com they have a bunch of forums about genetics and color mutations in all snakes. If you have any specific questions you can pm me. Like Gary O said the
piebald balls are nice and are more affordable.
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dragonlady_mothman
Oct 4 2005, 12:59 PM
What causes the mutations? Do they know?
dragonlady_mothman
Oct 4 2005, 01:23 PM
Is it possible to have two color mutations at once? Like being piebald and cyanomorphic at once?
Sauvagii
Oct 4 2005, 02:02 PM
The mutations are mostly naturally occurring and then breed in captivity. Others are from selective breeding for a trait or color. And yes there can be multiple mutations at once. These usually get fancy designer names. Reptile genetics can be pretty interesting when you get into it.
TheConductor
Oct 5 2005, 05:45 AM
I went to a reptile expo in Daytona with some of my friends who are really into reptiles, practically every vendor there was selling somekind of ball pythpn, they had just about every pattern there. My friends were telling me how everyone jumped on the new "it" reptile. The reason their all so expensive was b/c of supply and demand. Now that all the vendors have them, the price will have to drop. So dont go buying one for five grand, wait a little while and sure enough theyll be "norm".
dragonlady_mothman
Oct 14 2005, 05:22 PM
QUOTE
Albino:
Lacking all or almost all pigment, including eye pigments. These snake usually have red eyes.
Amelanistic:
Lacking black pigment. Amelanistic animals are
often red or yellowish, instead of white like albino mammals; this is because
amelanism does not affect the red and yellow pigments, or indeed any pigments
other than melanin.
Anerythristic:
Lacking red pigment. Anerythristic animals are typically black and white. This is a common mutation in corn snakes, and has also emerged in several other snake species.
Axanthic:
Lacking yellow pigment. Axanthism produces a "black albino" effect in certain species whose dominant pigments are yellow.
Cyanomorph:
Having an unusual amount of blue pigment.
Erythristic:
Having an unusual amount of red pigment.
Hypomelanistic:
Lacking some but not all black pigment.
Leucistic:
Lacking all or almost all pigment, but with varying eye colors.
Melanistic:
Having an unusual amount of black pigment.
Xanthic:
Having an unusual amount of yellow pigment.
sourceYou guys think you could come up with some pictures of snakes with these characteristics? Not necissarily the ones I already featured at the begining. A cyanomorph, at the very least.
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