Can anyone explain the basic concept of The Da Vinci Code ? I know it has something to do with christ. HELP edicatuate me .....

Well the main story is the main character Langdon is in France and gets caught up in the murder of the main curator at the llueve(sp). There are a great number of clues in the murder and they discover that they are actually hunting down the holy grail which is not what they expect.

same way The ending was stupid though

Yeah and I thought angels and demons was loads better.

The davinci stuff is a book , only a book that some journalist wrote to make money, he knows one way to make tons of money is to make out negative stuff about religion, that this secrets are hidden from us bla blas bla, shamefully people tend to believe in this book, the same people who are always questioning faith but is just a book and a very stupid one ........

Half of it is crap, half of it is true, you deside which parts are which, and if you don't mind me saying, you sound a little offended by this novel

But the Church is accually very corrupted if you do your history right.

id say the RCC was corrupt. but what would one expect when a Medici and other rather unsavory characters were in charge.

Riverside Community College ?

A book of fiction about a book of fiction.



Roman Catholic Church?

there ya go. i try to refrain from just using 'the Church' in reference to the RCC. there were other churches throughout history and just using 'the church' can be rather inaccurate. example: the church during the late middle ages was corrupt would be generalizing too much for my tastes. There were probably several churches that wouldnt have been corrupt on the scale of the RCC like the ethiopian church, eastern orthodox, and many christians still in the mideast.

What is it? What is it!? It's a load of crap, that's what it is. People trying to change the term 'Hebrew' the chosen people to mean 'anglo-saxon'. Hebrew is JEWISH, Jesus (Yeshua) was JEWISH. Jesus practiced JUDAISM. There is no 'bloodline'.

I don't care if he had a bloodline, I just want to solve the mystery of his so called wife. No one yet has been able to De-Bunk it yet so yeah... I wanna find out

It is NOT unrealistic that Jesus would marry. It is equally realistic he would marry Mary. Mary was at his side constantly and played a major role in Jesus teaching. Much like a wife! Why would a woman follow a man and travel with him unless his wife? Jesus encourages the Hebrews to multiply (marry and have chiildren) why nt teach by example?! Nothing in Jesus teaching suggest he was not married! Mary's role in Jesus's life is clearly altered. Even her being a prositute was fabricated by RCC. Mary was NOT a prostitute! The Bible does not state she was a prostitute just a sinner! All man were sinners! Mary was with Jesus throughout his teachings and travels much like a wife would be. No woman would "stay" with a man in those days unless married to him. she would stay with her family! NO I would say RCC has hid much of Mary's involvment in Jesus from world and that Mary did indeed play a major role in Jesus's life and even likely be his wife! One last point. If you follow the story of the resuerction Jesus appears to who!? Mary!!!!! now if you were coming back from the dead and could appear before a living person who would it be? For me it would be my wife or children. Since Jesus had no children at teh time he would appear to his wife (Mary?) or Mother! I believe it is very likely Jesus and Mary would married and possible that Mary could have been carrying Jesus child before cruxification.

Would you believe that there was a pastor here that tried to say that Jesus was not Jewish?

Yeah, I know all of that, I want to find good evidence to people around the world about this, not to de-bunk it.

any "evidence" would be 2000 years old and quite likely hid or detroyed by RCC

You may also want to consider this:

I firmly believe Mary was his wife. Now, Jesus would have to of known his purpose here on Earth and I don't think it is that "The Church" tried to "hide" anything. But, knowing his purpose here on Earth, you may want to consider that he was trying to protect his wife. Not only that, but look how freely people take the Lord's name in vain, etc., would you have wanted your wife talked about like that? So maybe it was purposefully low-key?

Something to think about, anyway.

Actually... Jesus was already bethrod to his bride... The body of all who would ever believe on him as Lord and Christ... His Church, not the Roman/baptist/etc, but the Universal Church made up of all who believe on him for their salavation...
Many women traveled with jesus throughout his teaching ministry, so would he be married to all of them?
Reason why Jesus appeared to Mary before the others was for 2 main reasons... She was there shortly after He was raised, and in the Middle east of that time, woman were not the ones to have position of spreading news, as culture dictated that men only were reliable witnesses..
So by saying Mary saw him first, this shows that it must have happened that way, since anyone making the story up would not have women at all involved, but use only men as eyewitnesses, for credubility sake...

Personally, I believe a lot of what the Da Vinci Code says concerning the politics of the Bible and the Church (which, by the way, as an example of how acronymns can end in funny results, I saw RCC and thought Rainbow Community Center, which is a gay-friendly youth center in my area. VERY different from the Roman Catholic Church. )

I was raised as a Catholic, but I never truly saw Jesus as a diety. Also, the extreme detriment to the image of the goddess, of women in general, always angered me, even when I was too young to fully understand it.

I believe he could have very likely married. I believe he could have easily been married to Mary. However, I don't believe there is a way to settle this argument, other than to agree to disagree.

When dealing with issues of faith, it is always safest to agree to disagree. No one will become offended rightfully in that case, and no one should truly expect they can convert others to their philosophies.

Exactly. Nice post there. It is true that when it comes to these topics it's pretty pointless to argue.

The roof must be collapsing, I agree with you ZeroShadow!

i gets the general idea of the corruption of the late middle ages popes correct but does miss the mark repeatedly on specifics and on lots of stuff. i think it has one of the clements in avingon burning templars and tossing their ashes in the Tiber in Rome, the Vatican rising to power while it was still a swamp and records the 300-2 vote concerning the nicean creed as "close." it would probably be best to ignore most of what it says concerning politics, history, and just about everything.

I had been researching the idea before I read the Da Vinci book, so I found that most of the information was not fabricated. The problem with researching secret societies and their motives, is that they are secret, so piecing it together becomes extremely difficult. And it draws the circle right around to the Freemasons, which opens another can of worms all together....

I completely agree, people just want to be frightened and jump on this bandwagon. REMINDER- THIS BOOK DOES HAVE SOME ACCURATE FACTS BUT- IT IS STILL FICTION AND ABOVE ALL A THEORY...A THEORY OF ONE MAN....DAN BROWN...

I mean come on, Leonardo's mind was moving a million miles a minute, he had no friggen time to hide secret messages within his paintings! I mean he never finished projects anyhow...so if they we not complete, how the hell do you think he had time to "hide" this so called secret messages!?

-removed offensive name calling -Dot

Uh oh... we got us a screamer

Really, not all the info in that book is credible, but most of it is.

IT IS A FICTIONAL STORY ABOUT CHRIST AND MARY M. MARRYING HAVING A CHILD AND HOW THE BLOODLINE SURVIVED THROUGHT THE PROTECTION OF A SOCIETY IN FRANCE OR SOMTHING LIKE THAT JUST BEWARE THAT IT IS ONLY A FICTIONAL STORY

Couldn't have said it better. Coming from a misguided and non-practicing Catholic it might sound odd. I practice a religion much like Wicca,yet it isn't. But yes,I agree with this. It is within the realm of possibility.

Exactly. And be wary of all the hype...the Christian church has done nothing but made this book more popular than it should have been really. I found the writing to be rather weak, the characters poorly developed and overall I was disappointed with it. But I will see the movie..love Tom Hanks.

The da vinci code is a load of nonesense. There is NO blood line. All you have to do is take a look at the evidence that the book and its' writer uses to claim it's true.

1. The documents about a secret society that protected the secret bloodline. First of all NO ONE saw them until the 1960's. And no one has attempted to date or varify them, why? Because they know if they do they'll expose the hoax! How in the world do documents like that go unseen for thousands of years? Give me a break.

2. Da Vinci's painting of the last supper......in it there's a V shape made between Jesus and one of his disciples. Suddenly the book is claiming that's a sign of fertility or something like that and that the disciple is actually mary, BULL! It's a V what is the painters name da Vinci! He probably did it so even if people didn't know who painted it they'd notice the V, Da Vinci was just putting his mark on his work.

3. The legend of Mary Magdalene coming to France with a few people including one young girl who the writer is claiming was Mary and Jesus's daughter. I DON'T THINK SO! Everyone in that town today says that the girl was just an egyptian servant, it wasn't a holy grail bloodline. I mean, lets just use common sense for a minute. The girl was BLACK, Jesus and Mary were WHITE HEBREWS, how the heck would they make a black daughter?! lol, I mean seriously.........and people think that crap is real.

The fact is, there is no bloodline, because Jesus is the LAST of the bloodline. He is a decandant of David, the royal Jewish bloodline, he is the King of Kings......so, obviously the buck stops there. Jesus is by bloodline and divine right (obviiously, being God and all, the messiah) the true and rightful King of Israel and the world.

While, I can understand that it's easy to become angry and forceful when your beliefs are challenged, I don't know that it adds anything to the argument. With that said, even though no one has successfully proven to me the existence of Jesus Christ and even though The Da Vinci code is an admitted book of fiction, I'm going to address your points.

1. It is possible that the Priory of Sion existed before the 1950s. It could have been called a different name. There was a small medieval society that called themselves the Ordre de Sion. Could be the same thing, could not be.

2. Saying that the V (the sign for female)between Jesus and his disciple (who in the painting DOES look a little girly) could be Leonardo "signing" his work is wrong. Da Vinci means from Vinci...he was Leonardo from Vinci.

3. Where exactly did you obtain your proof that Jesus and Mary were white Hebrews?

Cheers and stuff,
Rachel

Does any of this really matter? So what if Jesus had kids or not, it's not like they'd have super powers or anything. I don't understand why people keep arguing over petty facts about a guy who caused a bit of a stir two thousand years ago. It doesn't matter if Jesus had kids or what not.

Seriously.. using Easter Mass to discuss the elements of the book they want to debunk. I forget what church but it was headlined on Yahoo news, what a BAD move...

The reason for the holy grail is because of the wealth and power that any religion who uses Christ as its saviour is now crapping itself as the second coming will then head up all of these churches…….

He takes control and becomes the most powerful man ever……

Now do you see the relevance in the revelations and the reason for proving his existence…..

The masons also being most powerful chase the legacy of this messiah…….

What makes him so? Because he knows how to save us! Only he knows, there can be only one, even god doesn’t know this saviours plans and so it goes………

Only genetics can answer your questions and we are nearly there, trust me…..

JC2, XX

i was told its about uncovering a code and stuff about god...but yeah...im reading it now!!!

For who never read or who dont know what is,see the movie that will be released next month It will be the movie of the year.

The christian version of god, though, is omniscient and thefore it knows everything, even a saviors plans to save the world. You can't hide anything from an omniscient god.

In my opinion, the Da Vncci Code is a work of the devil.

For instance, the book claims that Jesus did not die on the cross (so it follows He did not resurrect). Jesus ended up marrying Mary Magdalene and had children. Their alleged descendants are now living in France. That’s not factual, of course. But you know how people tend to look at fiction as if it is the truth. This book attacks the very foundation of our faith, that is, the person and work of Jesus.

Lord of the Rings is of the devil too, I guess
I'm sorry, but when the author states its fiction, one tends to think of it as fiction, not in any way real.

It is fiction.....for entertainment purposes....

I know, I was responding to Yanna's post above.

In the end, its a rattling good yarn that captures peoples imaginations and often challenges people who blindly accepted the *truth* to think about it and just maybe open their eyes that bit more. Ergo, it is probably a success in that, apart from making a rake load of cash ,the author has achieved his aim of having people engage their critical faculties before just blindly accepting things as a given fact.

Anyway here's my tuppence as some background to the whole thing, and this is as i know it from my own studies. I don't claim to be infallible but this does seem to be te state of play as far as the known facts are.

Jesus of Nazareth... At the time jesus was meant to be knocking around with his band of followers there was no such place as Nazareth in Judea. At least the Roman maps of the period dont list it, and the Romans kept pretty accurate records. AFAIK a small village called AL Nazar had its' name changed sometime around 200 CE

The census... Well I hate to disappoint people but for Roman census taking. everyone was instructed to stay where they were at the time of the census. Think about it logically the Roman Empire stretched from Spain to Asia. Do really think, given Rome was totally fiscal based as a soiety, they would expect traders to all rush home and disrupt the economic lifblood of the Empire simpy for a census. Can you imagine Roman border tropps all disappearing off home for a month and then travelling back to their posts just for a census?? No , of course not. So that part of the story just shows a blatant ignorance of Roman ways.

Marriage.. Now this is a tricky one... The tradition was that those who were treachers were married, but if the character who was the guy the legends are based on, was a Nazarene/Essesne their is a fair chance they were celibate. That the jesus figure was of the family of David is a wholly ficticious invention shoved into the story to help shore up medieval monarchs and their claims of *Divine Right*. They were hardly gonig to be seen kowtwowng to some plebian so they dressed him up as royalty.


The closest to the truth we will ever likely know is probably something like this. The Jesus St Pail ednlessly went banging on about was a fiction. There was a teacher that prolly exiisted around 0CE who preached some sort of idea about Universal Brotherhood, and why not? the Bhuddha has basically come out with the same message some 600 years previously one can imagine it had made its way to Judea by then.

At the same time there was quite possibly some *Bin Laden* style character who led a series of assaults on the Romans whilst claiming to be of Judaic Royal blood to give his cause legitimacy with the local populace. They quite possibly ended up being executed by the Romans. His followers quite probably pulled the old trick of cliaming he wasnt actually dead but risen to try and prolongue the uprising. There are precedents for this worldwide going back through recorded history. This guy was quite possibly married and quite possibly survived by his offspring , and futhermore somebody knows something of the guys later genealogy. it would be hardly surprsing given their position that the RCC shoiuld choose to sit on this fact, cos afterall it wouldn't be good for bizness, and make no mistake for over a 1000 years religion was exactly that a bizness, ok, it still is, but thats by the by.


To sell Jesus to the Greco-Romans including the resurection was a good idea as they themselves were steeped in the *Orphdean mysteries* about return from the dead. Whether you like it or not, it is pretty evident hat St Paul did not espouse/teache/or any other way, preach the faith all the other disciples did. St Paul was also now known to be a Roman agent and Nicodemus his controller. You think infiltrating revolutionary groups and planting your own message is something dreamed up by the CIA in the last 50 years?? get real, and stop thiknig of ancient sociieties as a bunch of ill educated trailer trash waiting to be shown the light. They were everybit as sophisticated in their own ways, and used all the tricks of modern politicing to convince people of their right to rule to tax etc etc.

You dont think that the populace were just as weary and suspicious of the body politique as we are today?? Cos they were, they wanted the same as us, to make a decent living and feel safe at nights in their homes. Nothing new about that and the truth is society hasn't changed nearly as much as people would have you believe. There are just one hell of a lot more of us around these days.

You dont think many people hearing the jesus *lets all share* message back in Judae 2000 yrs ago said... yeah right you hippy now go and get a proper job you waster?? Cos they did, because they were no different to us.

A bloodline from King David still exists but did Jesus really have a child one can only speculate I know that Sarah was Mary Magdelines daughter and that Joseph travelled with the two to Egypt France and then England.Joseph carried with him a Rod/staff from a thorn bush only found in the middle east he put the staff in the ground at GlastonburyAbbey then he slept overnight the staff grew and the next day there was a thorn bush.Jesus isn't the last decendent from Judah but he is the true king he said he'll return to free all his famly from the evil of this world what do you believe.

Yeah Thank Goddess that Portugal didn't belong to Roman Empire (ironic).
Well for me Portugal had the Holy Grail when the Empire was earlier the Lusitânia (that means people from the light or land of the light) then turned to Condado Portucalense and finally to Portugal (many says that means the Port of The Grail),with the Discoveries the Empire became the stronger of the world and the country became as a Huge Port that was sending/receiveing traders,explorers and of course armies,and I think that the Grail could be transfered from the Port+Grail to another continent maybe America or even Asia.
And I think that the Grail brings a place that which have it becaming very wealth.

Now about the bible:
The Bible can be also fiction,dont you think??