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K_OS
Possible ghost picture!!

Ok before we get to the picture, I'll give you a little back ground. The picture was taken at an abandoned T.B. hospital. What happened is that we ran a story in the paper about Patti Starr doing aghost investigation in it.
Patti Star is the President and owner of Ghost Chasers International, Inc., which is based in Lexington, Kentucky. She leads an experienced, accomplished, group of investigators with a goal to prove that life goes on even after death.
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After hearing that Patti's group got some good EVPs (Electronic Voice Phenomena). I asked and was granted permission from the city to go into the hospital as well.

We did get some recordings of children talking and playing, but the tape accidentally got erased.

If you want to hear the EVPs that Patti Starr's group got then go to this website:

http://www.ghosthunter.com/research/abandonedTBHospital.htm

Now on to the picture.

Yesterday I was looking back through some of the pictures I took, (I took the pictures in October 2002) and I happened to notice what looked like a man standing in the next room of one of the pictures I took.
It could be a lighting trick, or anything... like I said I am not sure what it is. I do know that it looks like a man watching us. I have zoomed in and marked the area in purple.

If you look close you can see his eyes, eyebrows, nose, hair, mustache, collar and shirt. I haven't altered the photo in any way, except to zoom in and to circle where he is standing and crop so that the picture wouldn't be huge.

Like I said it could just be a trick that the light played, but it sure is weird.

P.S. on a side note you could deffinately feel a presence of something or someone there. I am hoping to get a chance to go through it again sometime, with more equipment.

Well here is the picture, you can judge for yourself.
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I would love to hear your comments on this.
isis-999
Well it looks like a man to me, I don't know he doesn't really look dead, But i guess he could be.. Hmmm.. do you have anymore .. it's kinda weird i will say that... hmm.gif
K_OS
I lost my harddrive no.gif . I know that I have the other pictures from the same place on a cd somewhere... I have to start labeling, thumbsup.gif I have been through about 50 disks so far, only 400 more to go... Luckily I had this one on my server so I didn't lose it.
isis-999
LOL..welcome to um..I hope you do find them..I like to see what they look like... tongue.gif
K_OS
I will keep looking for them, thank you for the welcome. grin2.gif
isis-999
Do you know who the guy in the photo is suppose to be and when he was suppose to have died?
K_OS
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 15 2005, 11:26 PM)
Do you know who the guy in the photo is suppose to be and when he was suppose to have died?
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I have no idea... I took the picture and I can tell you that he wasn't there when I took it. This was at a closed T.B. Hospital. It is locked up and there were only 2 others and myself in there. I didn't know what to think when I started looking through the pictures and saw him there. It could be a trick of the lights...I guess... It wasn't a reflection as there is no glass there.
P.S. the two women who were with me were standing behind me as the were slightly afraid to go in front. This place has a history of hauntings.
isis-999
I looked again but i must have missed it, where was the TB hospital located, Just wondering i have ghost shows about TB hospital and how they all have ghost because of the suffering.. hmm.gif
Kronos's_Boy
omg. i never want to see that picture in my life again and remind me not to........... omg it reminds me of my choldhood nightmare the little garden gnome that mysteriously moved a few nights it was all a mystery omg never shall i see that dead ghost or whatever it is again that gnome gives me the creeps. and the worse bit yet is that its still in my garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im going to make a huge garage sale and hopefully sell that freaky toy!!!!!!
mariposa26
The man's face looks a little distorted, a little too long to be a real human face. Assuming this photo isn't faked, though, it's a good pic. Looks far more authentic than some of the other ones on this site.
K_OS
QUOTE(mariposa26 @ Sep 16 2005, 07:42 AM)
The man's face looks a little distorted, a little too long to be a real human face.  Assuming this photo isn't faked, though, it's a good pic.  Looks far more authentic than some of the other ones on this site.
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I am extremely skeptical myself, I am trying to find the CD that I burned all the pictures from, unfortunately they were taken with a digital camera. It wasn't a reflection as there is no glass there. I had thought it may be insulation or something giving the illusion of a person, but it doesn't show up in any of the other pictures. I was at a different angle in them, so I don't really know. As soon as I get time, I will try to get permission to go through the hospital, this time with a film camera. It could be a trick of the light, but it isn't altered. If you want save the pic and open it in photoshop, etc. Blow it up very large, there is no feathering or any other tell tale signs of a fake. Like I said, I don't that it is really a ghost, but I do know that it isn't fake, this is what showed up in my photo.
Stephanie
I'm curious-Why is the photo black and white? In the case of doctored photographs it's much easier to alter a black and white image rather than a color. Not saying you did, just wondering why black and white original.gif

The mustache on the "face" of the being looks a bit distorted, too wide for where the mouth should be. Also can't seem to find any ears on him, ears should be alligned with the figure's eyes and there's nothing in that area. There is a small blotch lower down, but thats a bit low for ears to be placed. The lower body of the image is a bit less defined so if you cut out the head in that picture I probably wouldn't even be able to tell it's supposed to be a human.
Weird_Al_Wonnabe
either thats a log, which it probabally is.... or some man has a reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaallly long head
K_OS
QUOTE(Stephanie @ Sep 17 2005, 01:33 PM)
I'm curious-Why is the photo black and white? In the case of doctored photographs it's much easier to alter a black and white image rather than a color. Not saying you did, just wondering why black and white original.gif


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I was working for a newspaper at the time. So I had the upload software set to grayscale. I didn't notice this picture until later, so the flash card in the camera had already been blanked. So unfortunately I don't have a color copy.
Weird_Al_Wonnabe
well that was stupid
Mandy74
Hiya K os, welcome to the forum. That is a really good picture, I believe it to be paranormal. It looks like a man leaning out of the window, you can see what appears to be a collar & black jacket. His face is a little weird but who knows what we'll look like in the afterlife!
K_OS
QUOTE(Mandy74 @ Sep 17 2005, 02:04 PM)
Hiya K os, welcome to the forum. That is a really good picture, I believe it to be paranormal. It looks like a man leaning out of the window, you can see what appears to be a collar & black jacket. His face is a little weird but who knows what we'll look like in the afterlife!
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Thanks for the welcome... The place that the photo is at was the nursing station of the children's floor just in case anyone was wondering.
primordial
I don’t know what to say, odd. I guess I have to also think that it is trickery of the light. Do you have the original or the full picture? Straightforwardly, its not enough proof to be vitally taken. Spooky nonetheless. Welcome 2 UM. original.gif

Macedonian
The man looks like a caricature drawing... :|
JayMark
QUOTE(Macedonian @ Sep 17 2005, 08:49 PM)
The man looks like a caricature drawing... :|
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I was thinking the same.

The hair, eyebrows, eyes and mustache all look like they've been drawn with paint or something.

Yawtza
Looks like a puppet figure......this is me keeping an open mind......seriously, I'm not sold on this picture. This is just my opinion though........no not buying it.
Tornado
Hi K_0S, great photo! Looks like a monkey, lol w00t.gif ...

I'm curious. What made you take the picture if there was nothing there in the first place?
Matt.dk
Hmm, this picture is very interesting, very interesting indeed.. I have put together a simple and very basic photographic analysis of this picture. This analysis is biased.

The analysis contains 3 versions of the ghost in question, origonal, burned, accented. Revealing some signs of editing.

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First you see the origonal, looks almost normal..

Next is the burned or bightened version. In this one you can make out some clothing, or at least what appears to be. And you can see clearly, that the clothing has depth, and it dosent have an obvious pasted on pattern. The clothing is in favour that this picture is not edited...

Still on the burned(2nd) one, note the red arrow. Its pointing to the edge of the wall there, which is slightly brighter then any other wall edge. A trick of light perhaps, or a sign of editing.

Onto the Accented version. The beard is fake. That is, unless it is an absolute perfect right side collar of a shirt, coat, or tuxedo, then its a fake beard. The mustache appears to be one of two things. 1) A single line drawn in photoshop with the paint brush tool at roughly 1-3 pixel size, and after being drawn, blurred. Or, 2) A comically overgrown mustache.

Oh, and the hair, also appears to be drawn. Also again, note the lighting on the wall edge of the accented version of the ghost.

But don't jump to conclusions! I'm not saying for sure that this picture is edited. I consider myself very good at picking out an edit from a legitimate image, what I am saying here is that, it might be edited. There are suddle signs of some very good editing, but those signs could very well be no more then a seires of coincidences. So, I ask you, draw your own conclusion, and consider this evidence.

Once again, I am biased. I do not know what to think of this picture.
Tornado
QUOTE(Matt.dk @ Sep 18 2005, 03:14 PM)
Onto the Accented version. The beard is fake. That is, unless it is an absolute perfect right side collar of a shirt, coat, or tuxedo, then its a fake beard. The mustache appears to be one of two things. 1) A single line drawn in photoshop with the paint brush tool at roughly 1-3 pixel size, and after being drawn, blurred. Or, 2) A comically overgrown mustache.
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Referring to the beard, I'm almost positive it isn't one. Like you mentioned, it looks like a collar. Granted, the mustache is exaggerated, but this all depends on the year that this "ghost?" died. You have to remember that many years ago, it was the fashion for a gent to have his mustache long - almost meeting the beard-line.

I can see what you mean about the figure overlapping the doorframe, but don't forget that the doorframe is white and the larger portion of the background is black - you're going to see a lot more of this figure when it's infront of a black backgound. You never know, maybe this figure was standing INFRONT of the doorway and not actually peering round it, hence it overlapping?

I think it's a great photo. When you see it up close like that, it doesn't look so much like a monkey, lol ... so I take it back! original.gif
K_OS
I always assumed it was a collar, I didn't consider it could be a beard. I am glad that someone examined it close. Like I said it could just be a trick of the light. All I know is that you are looking at the photo I took. I have tried to rationalize it, I have thought that maybe it was insulation, hanging down that happened to catch right. I really do not know as to what it is.
clayton41205
It really looks like a man to me.... although I see two different images out of it... one is a regular distorted man, and the other is colonel sanders... lol... I see a long white moustache and white hair. I don't know, maybe it's just me...lol. But I believe that the photo is real, unlike most on this site.
K_OS
It kinda reminded me of the Monopoly man...lol
Dragonic Darkness
First off dude... I'd just like to say that that sort of looks like a cartoon. O.o tongue.gif

Second of all it looks to me like thats only part of the ghost... The back of the head perhaps, because theres another part next to it and under it. O.o
clayton41205
good observation.
nativechick1989
Kind of hard to tell . . . but if you said that you didn't 'doctor' the photo in anyway, then there's just one thing to say . . . weird. It does look like someone/something standing there, but a bit blurry.

By the way, Welcome to UM - K_OS! wavey.gif


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Matt.dk
Upon further examination, I have come to the conclusion that this picture is conclusive, meaning it was not doctored to create the illusion of what you see there. So in fact, there is an unexplainable (some would say) entity in that photograph, not a low opacity version of colonel sanders (mmm chicken...).

And KOS, that is obviously a collar of some sort, I have proven this with further examination. I will post up another image soon with the additional examination I did on the image. It is impossible for a piece of insulation to hang down, in an exact right angle triangle like that, stay there, and just happen to be in the same position as the entities shirt collar would be.

One last thing clayton, if you still think its a low opacity edit of colonel sanders (although examination has shown no signs of editing which is impossible had the image been edited) then just grab a pic of the origonal sanders, easy to find, and compare it to this one. I guarantee you will find too many differences to identify the entity as the colonel.
Matt.dk
Ok, sorry for the double post. Some things to add here. On the right side you can see that the only evidence in image editing is in the purple line drawn around the figure. In the 2nd one, you can see it more brightened, clearly showing that the body is not solid, and in the first one additional details can be seen. Image attached to this post.
K_OS
Matt.dk

Thank you so much for taking the time to do all of this, I really appreciate it, as there is no way that I could do that. After reading your posts, I am really wanting to try to get permission to go back to the TB hospital to do some more research, taking pictures, carying a tape recorder, and maybe even video.
K_OS
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Sep 16 2005, 12:46 AM)
I looked again but i must have missed it, where was the TB hospital located, Just wondering i have ghost shows about TB hospital and how they all have ghost because of the suffering.. hmm.gif
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Paris, Kentucky is where this one is located.
Matt.dk
QUOTE(K_OS @ Sep 18 2005, 10:21 PM)
Matt.dk

Thank you so much for taking the time to do all of this, I really appreciate it, as there is no way that I could do that. After reading your posts, I am really wanting to try to get permission to go back to the TB hospital to do some more research, taking pictures, carying a tape recorder, and maybe even video.
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Hmm, Sounds like fun. I would love to see what you find.
K_OS
QUOTE(Matt.dk @ Sep 19 2005, 05:12 PM) [snapback]851836[/snapback]

Hmm, Sounds like fun. I would love to see what you find.



I will post anything that I find... That is if I get anything... It will probably be a little while... Barely have time to get online as it is...lol
marsha28
Yikes!! That picture gave me goosebumps..
frogfish
its doesnt seem to match the background...
LizFL
Hello. For some reason, the guy reminds me of a religious figure. Like a priest that worked there or something.
JoeBean24
hmm perhaps an odd water stain but part does look to be more then just that.
werid_girl16
that s look like a hide.. he like his way to hide.. he wonder if you see him.. and he know u was there.
Blazar
Sorry this looks kinda fake to me....

The face looks like a cartoon figure. The only picture I have ever seen on here that scared me is in the image archives. Its a family at a dinner table. There is a "ghost head popping through the table and an a person with a green face in the back left corner..

gives me the worst feeling

ok here it is...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/galle...album=11&pos=48 no.gif
Tone
You kiddin me? Looks like the camera zoomed in on an action figure.
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