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crazyadverse
Check out this scary video from TAPS website. This is one of the best video's I've seen yet. Let me know what you think. Fake? I don't think it is. Sorry if this has been posted before....I didn't see it.

VIDEO HERE!
Pharoah
Wierd O_o
Charlie_0978
it looks like someone had blur the image for it to see ghostly , i dont bought it..
poisondheart
QUOTE(Charlie_0978 @ Sep 16 2005, 05:12 PM)
it looks like someone had blur the image for it to see ghostly , i dont bought it..
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I trust Grant, I had contact Taps about the Shadows, and he's been helping me out ALOT with this..
mariposa26
The video appears blurry and almost like the speed has been altered. I've seen this one before a few times. If it was not manipulated, it's possible that it has something to do with the fact that it's filmed in the dark so maybe lack of lighting combined with wind passing through the building from open windows or doors and dust flying around could be the culprit.

All I see is some black fog, that's what we're talking about right? I don't see any figures in there.
Charlie_0978
QUOTE(mariposa26 @ Sep 16 2005, 07:25 PM)
The video appears blurry and almost like the speed has been altered. I've seen this one before a few times.  If it was not manipulated, it's possible that it has something to do with the fact that it's filmed in the dark so maybe lack of lighting combined with wind passing through the building from open windows or doors and dust flying around could be the culprit. 

All I see is some black fog, that's what we're talking about right? I don't see any figures in there.
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i saw like someones legs walking but i still think it looks blurry , i dont believe it, sorry....
Eva Evermore
I totally trust t.a.p.s. and I watched the show the day they got that footage. They tried to recreate what they caught and couldn't. I think Jay and Grant are totally respectable in their field and rarely admit places are even haunted. They spend most of their time trying to find logical explainations for things and are very skeptical of many things. And I have never seen any body other than t.a.p.s. have such an incredibly professional, scientific investigations.
eveningsky339
I saw this on their show on SciFi. They were really perplexed when the footage was shown to them, and they couldn't re-create it. I trust TAPS, they all seem to have their heads screwed on straight. I can't really say that the image captured is that of a person, though, it's very vague.
amybutts
If you look in the lower right corner of it, you can see someone's leg. I watched them try and re-produce it, but I do not think they were wearing an appropriately dark enough or long enough piece of clothing to do it.

Don't believe that one. Sorry. no.gif
Eva Evermore
it wasen't just the clothing that was the problem, they couldn't reproduce the movement or the speed either.
maryjo1975
If you didnt see the whole show it is unfortunate. This was a GREAT show.

I dont for a second think that TAPS faked this. They just dont do that. I dont know what it is but if anything like that is real...that would have to be it I would think.

They kept hearing things in this prison (I think thats what it was) and when they went in the cell they got some really bad vibes. One of them got sick or something.

They did try to re-create this but found out that the walkway just isnt big enough for a normal human to turn and run like that.
SoLLiZ
if i remember right, the prison on that episode was not in the greatest of shape either, and anyone running through that place in the dark would be lucky not to seriously injure themselves.
Eva Evermore
that is correct. Infact, part of the prison they couldn't even really access by stairs, they had to climb up. They were also able to determine that the figure is only about 4-4 1/2 feet tall. nobody was able to move like that and that fast standing upright, let alone hunched over that far. And if you really pay close attention to the footage you will notice that when it first appears, it is a mist, you can see the railing on the left hand side through it. Then, the second it materializes it darts off, it doesn't actually turn, it is already heading in that direction, like it came up on the camera backwards.
spazz
I've watched the video a couple times, and have seen pictures of the place during the day. my assumtion is that the creature is a lunatic who roams the united states first prison, and was watching the taps crew when they came in. it found the right time and played around with their heads.
even they placed that as a possible explanation. maybe it was some kids.
Charlie_0978
QUOTE(maryjo1975 @ Sep 16 2005, 09:10 PM)
If you didnt see the whole show it is unfortunate. This was a GREAT show.

I dont for a second think that TAPS faked this. They just dont do that. I dont know what it is but if anything like that is real...that would have to be it I would think.

They kept hearing things in this prison (I think thats what it was) and when they went in the cell they got some really bad vibes. One of them got sick or something.

They did try to re-create this but found out that the walkway just isnt big enough for a normal human to turn and run like that.
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I think you better not believe so blind on people from tv, you dont know what they do or dont do when they are editing something, everybody lies for a couple of thousand dollars ok so you can not assure anyone that they dont ever fake anything....



QUOTE(Eva Evermore @ Sep 16 2005, 11:01 PM)
that is correct. Infact, part of the prison they couldn't even really access by stairs, they had to climb up. They were also able to determine that the figure is only about 4-4 1/2 feet tall. nobody was able to move like that and that fast standing upright, let alone hunched over that far. And if you really pay close attention to the footage you will notice that when it first appears, it is a mist, you can see the railing on the left hand side through it. Then, the second it materializes it darts off, it doesn't actually turn, it is already heading in that direction, like it came up on the camera backwards.
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For my friend here id like to say that i think the mist and then materialize stuff is too much theatrical, it reminded me Lament of innocence (great game) , it just seems too much hollywood that a ghost will be in the form of mist and then matherialize while heading towards a tv camara...sorry...dont agree this time.. thumbsup.gif
Eva Evermore
QUOTE(Charlie_0978 @ Sep 17 2005, 05:45 AM)
QUOTE(maryjo1975 @ Sep 16 2005, 09:10 PM)
If you didnt see the whole show it is unfortunate. This was a GREAT show.

I dont for a second think that TAPS faked this. They just dont do that. I dont know what it is but if anything like that is real...that would have to be it I would think.

They kept hearing things in this prison (I think thats what it was) and when they went in the cell they got some really bad vibes. One of them got sick or something.

They did try to re-create this but found out that the walkway just isnt big enough for a normal human to turn and run like that.
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I think you better not believe so blind on people from tv, you dont know what they do or dont do when they are editing something, everybody lies for a couple of thousand dollars ok so you can not assure anyone that they dont ever fake anything....



QUOTE(Eva Evermore @ Sep 16 2005, 11:01 PM)
that is correct. Infact, part of the prison they couldn't even really access by stairs, they had to climb up. They were also able to determine that the figure is only about 4-4 1/2 feet tall. nobody was able to move like that and that fast standing upright, let alone hunched over that far. And if you really pay close attention to the footage you will notice that when it first appears, it is a mist, you can see the railing on the left hand side through it. Then, the second it materializes it darts off, it doesn't actually turn, it is already heading in that direction, like it came up on the camera backwards.
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For my friend here id like to say that i think the mist and then materialize stuff is too much theatrical, it reminded me Lament of innocence (great game) , it just seems too much hollywood that a ghost will be in the form of mist and then matherialize while heading towards a tv camara...sorry...dont agree this time.. thumbsup.gif
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That's cool. I can see your point.
maryjo1975
QUOTE(Charlie_0978 @ Sep 17 2005, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE(maryjo1975 @ Sep 16 2005, 09:10 PM)
If you didnt see the whole show it is unfortunate. This was a GREAT show.

I dont for a second think that TAPS faked this. They just dont do that. I dont know what it is but if anything like that is real...that would have to be it I would think.

They kept hearing things in this prison (I think thats what it was) and when they went in the cell they got some really bad vibes. One of them got sick or something.

They did try to re-create this but found out that the walkway just isnt big enough for a normal human to turn and run like that.
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I think you better not believe so blind on people from tv, you dont know what they do or dont do when they are editing something, everybody lies for a couple of thousand dollars ok so you can not assure anyone that they dont ever fake anything....



QUOTE(Eva Evermore @ Sep 16 2005, 11:01 PM)
that is correct. Infact, part of the prison they couldn't even really access by stairs, they had to climb up. They were also able to determine that the figure is only about 4-4 1/2 feet tall. nobody was able to move like that and that fast standing upright, let alone hunched over that far. And if you really pay close attention to the footage you will notice that when it first appears, it is a mist, you can see the railing on the left hand side through it. Then, the second it materializes it darts off, it doesn't actually turn, it is already heading in that direction, like it came up on the camera backwards.
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For my friend here id like to say that i think the mist and then materialize stuff is too much theatrical, it reminded me Lament of innocence (great game) , it just seems too much hollywood that a ghost will be in the form of mist and then matherialize while heading towards a tv camara...sorry...dont agree this time.. thumbsup.gif
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You might want to get to know me some before coming here and calling me blind. I am not stupid and I am not naive. I know what people do. I am the LAST person to accept anything as paranormal.

Since you know so much, you go ahead and PROVE to me that it IS fake! Show me how they did it and explain why they would fake it. Considering that the whole premise of their show is to DISprove anything as paranormal. But if you can prove it I will be more than willing to believe you.

Until such time as that happens....dont accuse anyone of anything. You may not believe what I believe but that doesnt give you the right to belittle me.
BishopRyan
Look close at the lower part of the figure in the first few seconds. If you slow the video down a bit those are legs running. My 2 cents is that this is problably a fake the video seems speeded up to me.
NJC
I seen a lot of the TAPS video doors opening,orbs etc pretty good video
if TAPS fake this and have his own men to do this someone have to run very fast to do this one I trust TAPS so I don't think they fake this
Malicious
hmmm...the dust particles seem to shift and speed up when the cloaked figure runs near then runs off again.....maybe the tape was sped up.
IamUnexplained
if their show is to disprove paranormal events, then who would watch the show if they never had any events to disprove. think about it. in television, either you draw a large number of viewers, or you are canceled. sorry but any television show about paranormal events is going to be a load of bs because they are there for one reason....to get more viewers and make the network money. if these people did investigations without the show then i would tend to believe they might actually be truthful in investigations. Sorry but these guys get paid to find paranormal events, and if they cant find any they would have to either make them up or go back to walking around graveyards and selling pictures of graves on the corner.....

btw the video is of a man in a black cape running towards the camera and then back and it is also a very poor quality video. it is also not nightvision which is why its harder to see its a fake. if they used a nightvision camera it would show the man in much more detail. it is probably the most faked video ive ever seen and it reminds me of a haunted house in salem where a guy in a black cape took you around and tried to scare you the whole time....nothing paranormal about that.
LISTENintheDARK
I agree: I see legs and shoes. Someone wearing a cape or sheet and legs make it move as person runs.
SecondHeartbeat
i think this video is real
Roflmao3
It may be true and I'm not a skeptic guy, but...

that looks a little as if a robe guy run normal and changes and runs back;
then they speed up it a little and blurs it along with the background a bit.
I think it not looks as it should cuz a ghost is more like transparent thingy.
this changes from not seing at all to showing itself like a normal person...

but It could be true i don't know what too think. wacko.gif
Mandy74
Whatever it is it looks authentic & very creepy!
Napo981
Can the video have been manipulated??

There seems to be snowing in the prison, and some snow do come over the apparition.

This could help to tell this video is authentic.

However, somewhere in the movie, it seems to be a sudden shift of the snow to the right of the screen.

Where does this wind com from? wacko.gif

Wonder if such snowing pattern can actually exist in an abandonned prison. blink.gif

Can the apparition and snow be added on a video?

And tell me why some people would still film in black and white!! huh.gif

indeed
QUOTE(BishopRyan @ Sep 17 2005, 11:37 PM)
Look close at the lower part of the figure in the first few seconds. If you slow the video down a bit those are legs running. My 2 cents is that this is problably a fake the video seems speeded up to me.
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QUOTE
hmmm...the dust particles seem to shift and speed up when the cloaked figure runs near then runs off again.....maybe the tape was sped up.



hmm.gif This is what it looks like to me aswell
Eva Evermore
QUOTE(IamUnexplained @ Sep 17 2005, 03:11 PM)
if their show is to disprove paranormal events, then who would watch the show if they never had any events to disprove.  think about it.  in television, either you draw a large number of viewers, or you are canceled.  sorry but any television show about paranormal events is going to be a load of bs because they are there for one reason....to get more viewers and make the network money.  if these people did investigations without the show then i would tend to believe they might actually be truthful in investigations.  Sorry but these guys get paid to find paranormal events, and if they cant find any they would have to either make them up or go back to walking around graveyards and selling pictures of graves on the corner.....

btw the video is of a man in a black cape running towards the camera and then back and it is also a very poor quality video.  it is also not nightvision which is why its harder to see its a fake.  if they used a nightvision camera it would show the man in much more detail.  it is probably the most faked video ive ever seen and it reminds me of a haunted house in salem where a guy in a black cape took you around and tried to scare you the whole time....nothing paranormal about that.
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You apparently don't know much about them. They have been doing this WITH OUT the television show for about 12-15 years. Everything they do is non-profit and they do it for research purposes only. They fund the group themselves with their day jobs. Sure, now that the network picked them up for a show, they pay for some equipment and stuff, but who wouldn't take that. They have been a very respected organization for long before the show came around. And if you watched the show you would know that in the 1&1/2 seasons they have been on the air, they have only ever admitted that a place was undoubtably haunted about 3 or 4 times.
cher clyd
That looks strange? like the reaper!
IamUnexplained
QUOTE
You apparently don't know much about them. They have been doing this WITH OUT the television show for about 12-15 years. Everything they do is non-profit and they do it for research purposes only. They fund the group themselves with their day jobs. Sure, now that the network picked them up for a show, they pay for some equipment and stuff, but who wouldn't take that. They have been a very respected organization for long before the show came around. And if you watched the show you would know that in the 1&1/2 seasons they have been on the air, they have only ever admitted that a place was undoubtably haunted about 3 or 4 times.


doesnt matter what they did before they are on the air now. im sure the reason they dont investigate to prove paranormal existance simply because they would never prove that. their way of discrediting paranormal events is the easy way out and i really dont think that makes for a respectable scientific organization. instead of disproving simple claims why dont they actually prove the existance of paranormal activity?

and also, if you honestly believe that video is a ghost then bigfoot lives in my closet. i know a man in a black cape running around in a building when i see one...
distortedpandy
I have seen this video on UM before and I think in that post which I can't seem to find now, most agreed it was fake...

and maybe it's just me, but how many ghosts wear white shoes? rolleyes.gif
Rakarin02
QUOTE(crazyadverse @ Sep 16 2005, 07:55 PM)
Check out this scary video from TAPS website. This is one of the best video's I've seen yet. Let me know what you think. Fake? I don't think it is. Sorry if this has been posted before....I didn't see it.

VIDEO HERE!
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I'd say it's a person with a thin black cloth over him. At one point, when it turns, you can see what looks like part of a leg and shoe.
Eva Evermore
QUOTE(IamUnexplained @ Sep 17 2005, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE
You apparently don't know much about them. They have been doing this WITH OUT the television show for about 12-15 years. Everything they do is non-profit and they do it for research purposes only. They fund the group themselves with their day jobs. Sure, now that the network picked them up for a show, they pay for some equipment and stuff, but who wouldn't take that. They have been a very respected organization for long before the show came around. And if you watched the show you would know that in the 1&1/2 seasons they have been on the air, they have only ever admitted that a place was undoubtably haunted about 3 or 4 times.


doesnt matter what they did before they are on the air now. im sure the reason they dont investigate to prove paranormal existance simply because they would never prove that. their way of discrediting paranormal events is the easy way out and i really dont think that makes for a respectable scientific organization. instead of disproving simple claims why dont they actually prove the existance of paranormal activity?

and also, if you honestly believe that video is a ghost then bigfoot lives in my closet. i know a man in a black cape running around in a building when i see one...
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Nobody has ever been able to "prove" a haunting. The closest we can come to proving a haunting is to disprove everything else first. That is even used in medicine a lot, there aren't yes and no test for everything, doctors have to go through and find out what it is not before they determine what it is. And there are other reasons for investigating a haunting like trying to understand why these things happen. I am not the type of person to believe just anything, infact this is only about the 2nd or 3rd thing I have believed since I have been a member here, I have just been familiar TAPS and this footage since before I was ever a member here. The people who go around just trying to "prove" things are those nieve people who worship "orbs" and believe everything they are told and think everything is haunted and not only are they lying to themselves but can never truely begin to understand the things that happen because they don't even know what really happen.


By the way, to everybody who keeps mentioning seeing the leg and shoe, that was one of the things they were perplexed about and tried to recrate that as well and couldn't do it. And that is not snow in the picture, it is dust, and there are a ton of drafts in that old prison that is not used any more, I believe there are even some broken windows and holes in the roof and such.
IamUnexplained
orbs are dust i hope your not implying that i believe in everything im told either....all you have to understand is that if any of this was actually real, there would be alot more press and investigations on it. the discovery of life after death would probably be one of the greatest finds in all of history. you really think that poor quality video of a man in a cape running around in a prison is proof? im done trying to show the logical....
Eva Evermore
I never said the words "this is real and it proves that there are ghosts", I have dealt with the paranormal my entire life and I know that there are such things as ghosts and I don't feel that I need to prove the existence of ghosts to anybody else. I just said that I do happen to believe that this footage is real and I respect TAPS. If you really think that if some footage was real that it would just have to get a lot of media attention and it isn't real if it doesn't, then I don't know what world you are living in. Society as a whole is not yet ready to accept the theory of ghosts and no one video, real or not, could ever prove things one way or the other. If the existence of ghosts is ever definitively proven (which I doubt) then I sure it will not be happening in my life time.
Charlie_0978
QUOTE(IamUnexplained @ Sep 17 2005, 06:28 PM)
orbs are dust i hope your not implying that i believe in everything im told either....all you have to understand is that if any of this was actually real, there would be alot more press and investigations on it.  the discovery of life after death would probably be one of the greatest finds in all of history.  you really think that poor quality video of a man in a cape running around in a prison is proof?  im done trying to show the logical....
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THE DISCOVERY OF LIFE AFTER DEATH PAL? that is something that for intelligent and spiritual people dosnt have to be DESCOVER , maybe for you and a few more but your post sounded like that of an ignorant, no ofense, just showing my thinking here thumbsup.gif
K_OS
That is extremely weird. It looks like someone was simply walking up and realized they were in the frame and promptly left. But you never really can tell.
IamUnexplained
charlie this is not a spiritual section of the forum. i am in no way required to believe in a religion or life after death according to a religion. this is a paranormal section. at the moment, there is no solid 100% proof of life after death IE ghosts. i dont believe in a god or gods as well but that is not what this thread is about.
Macedonian
Neat video but easily fakeable. No, you can't "reproduce" it, but there's this thing called video editing...
Doggirl3
I could not get into the video to see it. But I watch T.A.P.S on Scifi channel every Wednesday. They are great.
SoLLiZ
napo, it's not in black and white, its night vision, filmed in the dark
spazz
The only thing i wonder about the video is how the person was able to turn so fast and head back. the dust was affected by the person but how would somebody turn so fast?
spazz
I've studied the human body a little and a human, (if the video went un-edited) wouldn't be able to turn so fast. and i didn't see shoes.
sub_x0ne
The video is authentic, but I can't say what they caught on tape was a ghost. That video is not a fake.
Hoagy
I saw this on here a while back, and although I am not convinced of its authenticity (just my opinion) it still ranks with one of the creepiest video clips I have seen in a long while, fake or not. Back when I first saw it I slowed it down, and there does seem to be what looks like a lower portion of a leg wearing a sneaker, when the 'thing' turns and takes off again.

my 2 cents.
clayton41205
I not only see the leg in the corner, but I also see some kind of weird shadow in front... is the the 4 - 4 1/2 foot person you are talking about eva? Well anyway, I dunno... it's real dusty and dirty in there, so you never know, right?
Eva Evermore
I am not saying that it is a 4-4 1/2 foot tall person, I just said that this figure is about that high. Lets just assume for sake of arguemant that this is a ghost, it doesn't have to be the apparition of a full human body. I know people who have personally witnessed only the partial body apparition, like just from the waist down, or just a torso or a body with out a head. I was just passing on the info that they determined the figure to be about that height.
clayton41205
Yeah, that's true. I just thought you had said that it was said... but I was wrong... but I know for a fact that it's true, because I know somebody who saw rotting corpses but only with half the body mostly... but the figure that's in my house, everybody says that he can barely fit into the house. I saw it last night, but it disappeared as quick as it came. But most people say that it the average height of what they see.
Eva Evermore
I knew a woman who's child hood home was haunted and every morning at the same time there was the apparition of a man walking down the stairs and into the kitchen, but it was only the lower half of the body.


I also just want to say to everybody that even though I have made it very well known that I fully believe this footage to be real and I highly respect and trust the TAPS team, I fully respect everybody else's views and opions. I like to discuss and debate things, but I would never try to forse my own views on anybody else.
clayton41205
I trust what you say... I am not that experienced and all, but I am, I guess what you would call an acquaintance of NME and he told me that you were one of the realest people on here, so I am actually going by what you and him say, plus the other people here. But I honestly believe in that as well because I know there are apparitions of only half bodies. I just wish somebody would get a clear image for us to check out. Although I did like the T.A.P.S. one.
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