huh, i think its real. but, it could be a fake, thats been fast forwarded with someone just running around. but its a TAPS video, and i dont think they'd do that. too unprofessional.

At least a couple of us, after studying it frame by frame, think it is likely not a leg and shoe at all, but merely an effect of flying dust/debris that is in motion. If you look closely it seems to be in front of the apparition, not attached to it.

I think one of the following:

TAPS faked it.

Some outsider grabbed the camera, manipulated the video and replaced it.

Something freaky happened.


Just doesn't appear to be that someone ran to the camera and back without the addition of video manipulaiton. Not using a live human actor to run up and back, at least.

The shoes, pantleg and cape thing don't mean squat as far as I'm concerned. It's sort of funny, when the hardcore skeptics say stuff like, "What sort of ghost is going to wear tennis shoes and white pants?". Why even go down that road when to them the entire premise of ghosts existing is false to them?

That being said, I'm still expecting this to be debunked someday. I wouldn't be surprised if Brian was in on it in some way shape or form.

Still pretty creepy though. It let's your imagination run wild.

Say! Don't they record this stuff directly onto a DVR? That would probably make video editing a whole hell of alot easier before it gets put on tape or DVD. Then again, it might make it a bit harder for on outsider to manipulate the video and put the camera back before TAPS returned.

Well, this site is cool either way.

Can't wait to see "Ghost Hunters" next week. Beats the hell out of the uber-hoax show..."Most Haunted" or "Faux Haunted" as I like to call it.

Fake , just fake, thats the most fake video iv ever seen...

I can clearly see the bottom of the left shoe as the person turns to the left!

Um, it doesn't rotate, so explain that odd behavior. That "rope" doesn't even hang over the figure, and that's electrical man

If it was a hoax, read what I have previously posted, and what debunkers have posted. If they want to make a "legit" video, why would they wear a white shoe... And how do you know what color it is? This is a night vision camera and there is no light, so how does a "white flashy sneaker" reflect off of nothing but void space?

I've reviewed the video several times, and I've come to this conclusion... While I trust TAPS, I can't speak much for the authenticity of this video.

I know this goes back on what i said earlier but hear me out real quick...
When you watch the video, pay not attention to the "spirit" instead, watch the "white" sheet on the left. As the figure approaches, the sheet moves SO subtly that you can BARELY tell that it's moving. However, as the figure retracts the sheet seems to move back and forth MUCH more obviously due to it's quicker pace. The dust particles also seem to move faster.

There are two possible explainations...

1. The video's speed was increased as the figure moved away.

2. Or the figure's movement was "powerful" enough to affect the air currents enough to speed up both the dust particles and the sheet's movement.

Also, the "leg" that appears has been dismissed as dust particles in front of the figure. I disagree, because as the "cape" seems to billow as the figure flees, you see the same light colored leg twice. So I don't think that dust particles floating in front of the figure caused this phenomenon. I mean, where else in the footage do you see dust particles forming the same sort of phenomenon (ie forming together to look like a solid object) much less twice in quick succession and in the same area.

BWT a nightvison camera works by emitting light unseen by human eyes, and picking up the reflections of this light off of whatever it's cast upon, objects that appear "white" are just lightly colored. So light colored clothing would reflect much more light than darker fabrics (like the cape) no matter whether the light is in the visible spectrum or not.

This can go to show how even a believer can be turned skeptic. I believe in ghosts and I believe in TAPS, but this footage proves to be a little questionable.

This doesn't mean I don't want to believe the footage! I'd love for this to be proven authentic and UNEDITTED. I'm just stating what I observed through close observation. If anybody else can tell me what they think about the change in movement of the white sheet let me know... Do you notice it too?

its seems sped up

I just wanted to say that wether you believe this footage to be real or not, I think it is pretty cool that so many people are really looking into this footage and really researching it, not just saying it is or isn't a ghost. It has been a long time since I have seen this much serious thought and research and discussion gone into a topic. And for the most part all of the discussion has been very well thought out and very "adult" like, not a bunch of childish "I'm right and your wrong" bickering. I want to thank crazyadverse for posting such a thought provoking topic.

Thank you Eva. I just thought the video was very interesting. I agree that people haven't been childish on this post. Strange. Im not used to that. Thanks to everyone that has been posting. You have all brought up some curious things about the video I did not see before. Though I still think the video is authentic, I can definitely see why people may question it or believe it is fake. Either way, this video is very strange.

I just learned a new thing today, how nightvision works

Actually, there are a couple of other spots which I mentioned earlier. There is one spot that looks like an arm popping out, and another near the end of the video that looks like a head forming. But I really do think it is flying debris.



I did notice that. I really don't know what to think about this video one way or another, so I really can't say "real" or "fake". I just feel something about it is off. The change in speed does bother me.

I think that beauty is totally right, no one could have said it better, too much bickering and no real statments ,shame on you people.

Looks to me like somebody has got a shoddy quality camera, filmed somebody in a cloak running up to the cam and back away and then doubled the speed and blurred it.

Whcih of course, can be very easy with the right stuff. And can somebody explain what TAPS is? IS it a T.V. show?

TAPS is a paranornal investigation team based out of long island that has been investigating in the new england states for the last 12-15 years and they now have a television show. And it is not a shoddy camera at all, they use very expensive top of the line equipment.

Hi. Im new to this forum, came upon it while doing some research on the Emily Rose exorcism movie which I seen last night. SEE THIS MOVIE!!!! Anyway, i have a question about the video here, what is with the three seperate clips?

Thanks in advance,
LOC

Welcome to the new people.
I do have one issue with footage of paranormal activity or questionable activity; why is that all the footage displayed is narrowed down the exact moment of activity?
Especially in this video. I'd like to see the filming at least a couple seconds beforehand and after the figure enters and exits the video.
..and i do thinks its odd that either during editing or before posting on the web the timing was increased\and the lack of clarity in the viewing, the explanation of what TAPS are doing to the video. The method of presentational intension are questionable.
i won't be able to watch the show tommorow, so if anybody could record and send would be helpful(message).
i'll find the site to transfer large files, i use it for program delivery...

What network is TAPS on?
Thanks
LOC

Hi Locust,

T.A.P.S. is on SciFi. They come on Wednesday nights...

Amy

Hey wait! It is a fake!

I never really did look at that white thing hanging on the left that I'm sure the most vehement skeptics probably pointed out!! Look at how that thing moves when the "phantom" passes it! It sure doesn't look natural to me. And I was almost willing to buy into this thing.

Faked! Shame on TAPS...unless someone has an explanation for the speed at which that white thing sways...it looks like a highly bogacious bogusity to me! Amazing what looking at things on a real monitor and not my laptop screen can do!


Still watching "Ghost Hunters" tonight, though!

Okay, ya'all:

Ghost Hunters tonight!!! We will find an answer to our debate? LOL I'll be watching, will you?

I have a feeling that instead of finding an answer, it will just spark all kinds of more questions and debate. But I am looking forword to it, this has been the best debate I have been involved in in a long time. And I just can't wait to see tonights episode, I hope it is good.

Yup, yup.... I think you are right......

I can't believe they didn't find anything the second time going back, but I can say that it was still beneficial to see this episode. I noticed when they re-played the footage from last time that the footage we have here in this topic is incomplete. They showed the full length of the "figure" moving and that white "leg and foot" that some people have said is just dust particles forming appears three times as the "figure" is "running". So that discounts the theories that it is just a cloak on a rope, because it is a definite running movement with the "leg" popping out every time that "leg" would be stepping down. And as far as it looking like dust particles when analized frame by frame, well, if it is a ghost, than it wouldn't be a solid form so I guess would make sense for it to not look solid on film, or maybe that is just what a solid object would look like if it was magnified to much.

i bet they could have gotten a ghost to show up in that prison if they offered up a carton of smokes, or perhaps a "fish"

D'oh! Spoilers! I wasn't thinking and I read through the spoilers in the posts above.

Oh well, I won't get too excited about the 2nd episode tonight.

Damned East Coast/West Coast thang!

Sorry, forgot that some people haven't seen it yet,
By the way, for the people who don't know about T.A.P.S., here is a link to there websitehttp://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/

Ugh!

That was a waste! But... what about the second one? Kinda creepy EVP there.

i don't know about that, i'm not sure what kind of recorders they are using, but i notice that they never use an external mic. they always use the built in one. i thought it sounded like the motor in the recorder.

They sure seemed sort of half-assed on the ESP segment. Like they almost were glad that nothing happened there. Hmmm, maybe they figured out that folks were onto the phantom video. Or maybe they figured out that one of their own staged it, like that Brian idiot.

No motor in a digital recorder

I never watch TAPS, I have never seen the show. As far as microphones go, they all have different uses. Built in ones are great for not capturing environemental sounds, while external ones tend to pick up more vibrations from wind and so fourth. External Microphones however can be much more diverse, and put into smaller areas within a haunted location.

It's hard to tell what's going on. It could just be gas and dust particles moving around. I have seen spirit forms on several occassions throughout my life. Some I knew, some I didn't, but all were crystal clear. They were obvious then vanished. No fading in and out.

I've seen this footage as well, but this shows it a little more clearly. From what I can tell, it doesn't actually turn around, it looks like something backing toward the camera and then speeding forward...no turning. Very strange indeed.

That's from the episode that TAPS expored Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadephia, PA. It was so funny when Steve and Brian ran away from
'the shadow'.

It looks too much like a person with a blanket over him, also why would you only be able to see the shoes of a ghost???.... oh and a little bit of the brown pants.

Yes, my thoughts as well. No matter how much I study the video, I can't see the apparition turning, only moving ahead, then backing up.

If you watch it closely, as is said before, the thing, ghost or guy, doesnt actually turn. Its as though a cloth has been draped over some machine that shoots forward then goes back again. In all of the parts of the film, its doesnt actually turn or run. It could be that the cloth is white on the inside, so when it flaps, you're bound to see the white, thus giving the illusion of something running?

When you pause it, it is easy to see the form of a guy, so it could very well be faked. Also, it seems to have been speeded up and the section of screen where the 'ghost' is, has been blurred out a bit.

Then again, it could be a ghost who bought some new shoes and wanted to show how sparkling clean they were

I have also seen spirit forms and they are not all the same. They come in many different forms and sometimes they are just a blur or a dark mass.

And I am sick of hearing people making comments about the white "shoe". People wear shoes so why wouldn't you see shoes on a ghost. This is not scooby doo people, ghosts don't just float around with no feet. And if you were to read ALL of the post than you would know that it IS possible for an apparition to be just part of a human form. It sounds like people are running out of constructive theories as to what have caused this. And so far I have noticed that the people who believe that this footage is a ghost have put a lot of thought and research into it to back up their opinion. Most of the non believers just state what it looks likes.

Yes, exactly. The shoe thing, if indeed it is a shoe, wouldn't be enough to make me disbelieve this video. I personally just don't happen to think it is a shoe or a leg, but in truth, none of that really matters much one way or another. If a spirit is trying to take on a physical form it could, in its attempt, end up only projecting parts of the whole. Even so, I can't say I definitely believe this video to be real or fake. I'm still undecided.

But pants, and what seems to be some black fabric draped overtop of them, also why would T.A.P.S. Speed up the video as was obviously done since the amount of dust in the air was going super fast toward the camera. The whole thing with it turning around instantly can easily be done by cutting out a few frames in any video editing software.

Ok, so you are accepting the "shoes" but not pants! That is ridiculous. And again, read ALL of the posts, some people have already analyzed the footage frame by frame and found movement in the back round that differs from the dust movement and shows that the footage was not sped up and that it could have been a breeze of some kind that disturbed the dust and made it kick up like that.