Highly-evolved space beings, who operate the craft known as 'UFOs', belong to the Elder Races that have been guarding our planet Earth for millions of years. They have also been using various subtle methods for the purpose of guiding and tutoring evolving humanity.
The physical bodies of very ancient humanity were created by these Elder Races. Of course, they had no part in the making of their spiritual 'bodies' which came directly from the Infinite Creator, our Radiant One. But they did create the physical forms inhabited by mankind's spiritual Selves. When Earth was ready to be inhabited by humans, the Elder Races decided which particular physical qualities were needed by humans in order to best adapt to the planet's environment. Then, these qualities were developed in much the same way that modern animal breeders go about producing a new species. Parents were carefully chosen to procreate together in such a way as to fix the desired characteristics and remove the undesired ones.
The Elder Races' biological laboratory was the Biblical "Garden of Eden". "Adam" was the name of a racial group, not of an individual. This was a custom of ancient peoples to personify a whole race with a single name, just as, for example, the British race today is symbolised by the name "John Bull".
As the Bible says, the Adams had to leave the "Garden", but this was not for punishment reasons, but rather as a precautionary measure. Too close contact with the Elder Races was causing evolving humanity to learn certain advanced knowledge which, in their early stage of development, was not good for them. So they had to go out into the world by themselves. Women ("Eve") were blamed for this, due to this tendency of men since the very beginning.

In the Book of Genesis, the "Lord God" says, "Behold, the man ("Adam") has become as one of US." Since the Deity is only One, this is an indication that the 'Lord God' mentioned here is a much lesser being than the Infinite Creator, speaking to a group who are his equals---that is, the Elder Race of highly evolved space people.
In the Bible and other ancient Scriptures, there is often confusion between the real Deity and the advanced ETs known as the Elder Races who have been guardians of Earth for millions of years. This was caused by the very advanced spiritual, mental and scientific abilities of these ET Races. Not being able to comprehend the true nature of these space beings, the Adamic Race came to the conclusion that these were mighty "gods" of great and terrible supernatural power. And since this belief made it easier for the Elder Races to issue instructions and commands to the subsequently obedient Adams, they were in no hurry to change this belief.
As the Adamic Race evolved, they started to get a more realistic picture of their so-called "gods", as did the ancient Greeks who realized that, even though their "gods" had enormous powers, they were in fact only mortals who were not always "good".
For thousands of years the ET Guardians lived on Earth among humans. But, when Earth's environment became much less favorable for them, they left for other worlds. This happened as soon as it was considered safe for the Adams to be left to their own devices.

somebody has been watching too much "Stargate: SG1".

Alan F. Alford, in his book Gods of the New Millenium, hypothesises that humanity was created by an Elder Race of sorts using their DNA - the original Adam and Eve literally being test-tube grown.



How true

i think i already explained eponyms.

Mark thankyou for taking the time to share such an interesting concept as always its a joy to read your topics. Namaste Sheri

"The Elder Races' biological laboratory was the Biblical 'Garden of Eden'"

This reminds me of the "E.din" that was supposedly translated from cuneiform. Have you heard of this before, etvisitor?

Yelekiah, I've never heard of the "E.din". Please let me know more about this, when you have the time. You are very open-minded, Yelekiah. I appreciate it.

Many thanks for the support, Sheri. Mark

I can't remember the exact book, but it came out many years ago as a translation about a lab. But I tried to google the book. I couldn't find the one I was looking for, but I did find something else. Interesting stuff.

http://www.edinnet.com/TrueNobleman.htm

Sorry, the "Elder Races" are even harder to swallow than the Judeo-Christian God! The progression of fossil evidence is a little too strong to include such twaddle as alien interference with our evolution. I guess the various sub-species of Australopithecus was merely their failed experiments, cast to one side for the truely successful one?

Ok, imagine this. An alien race with advanced technology comes to earth and genetically creates a new race by splicing their genes with those of apes, thus creating an intelligent species 98% to the ape. A species that today we call, in layman's terms, the human.

This would explain why archaeologists and scientists have yet to find the "missing link" in the evolutionary chain. As a bonus, this theory will also explain archaeological mysteries such as the Pyramids of Giza, and how it seems they were designed with much more sophisticated technology than available at the time (or even today).

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I know - it's hard to swallow. At least I know Christianity isn't totally on the bottom of the heap, eh Mako

Regards, PA

Science has never looked for a "missing link"....This is a term that the Christian establishment created in an attempt to discredit Darwin's theory.


Not rally sure what you mean there, but I guess it depends on who is defining the heap. There are those, that would dig a hole for Christianity, put it in the hole, cover it up and then place the heap on top of the covered hole.

I would believe the "Elder Races" before the "Judeo-Christian God" thing.

I have never heard of this theory before. But the way God is God could have created these aliens and so forth. Interesting indeed.

Yall be nice to this young man. He is just voicing an opinion.

Missing link ... UUUGH!

*Human Evolution and "Mysterious Origins of Man"
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/momevol.html

*Fossil Hominids: The Evidence for Human Evolution
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/

*Talk.Origins Archive
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html

*The Human Origins Program at the Smithsonian Institution
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/

*The Leakey Foundation
http://www.leakeyfoundation.org/

*World of Richard Dawkins
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldO...ive/index.shtml

*Evowiki (EvoWiki's goal is to promote general evolution education, and to provide mainstream scientific responses to the arguments of creationism and other antievolutionists.)
http://www.evowiki.org/wiki.phtml?title=Main_Page

Sean

I was agreeing with him.

Hey sweetie, where have you been? You know I worry about you when you don't come around every day.

interesting thought etvisitor, a bit general but i'd believe it more than how religion exlains it.

You know - I'm glad I don't drink coffee at 1am. Is this payback or something?

You hittin' on my woman, Mako?

Your woman?

Sorry, couldn't help that. Have you ever read mine or 101's profile quote?

Regards, PA

Makin' fun of my woman, PA?! Them be fightin' words, mister!

You know the old saying Mate, pay back is Hell!

Nope, I consider 101 as an unofficial daughter and try to "ride herd" on her and protect her from all the wolves (no, not Beowulf) of the world. What are your intentions towards 101, may I ask?

Hi um I did not oh lordy.

Hi Mako. I have been gone. I posted a long drawn out thread about me and why I have been gone,. But thanks for the concern.

AHHHHHH the stupid smilies won't go where I want them to.

Suddenly, I'm picturing pistols at dawn for you two.

Well JMPD1, I might ask you the same thing I asked 101. Where have you been? You know I worry when you stay out late! Actually, I think it will be more like wet noodles at 20 paces for those two.

Yes indeed.

I also missed our beloved Jmpd. Welcome back you appear well rested are you?

Good thinking 101! maybe they won't notice we were both offline at the same time.......
LOL

Well, it was more a a personal business deal, than a rest. Everything is square now, so I'm back.

He he that's funny. I didn't even notice that.

I did and I was going to ask about it! *Mako's back up*

101 I will PM you.

I am a good girl.

Sooooo ... you two are carryin' on behind my back, eh?! Oh the shame! The shame!

Who me and PA or Mako or was it JMPD or maybe Zandore. Gosh I got too many mens.

Since getting all of them together is impossible, she really cannot choose among them because she love all of them equally well; and that, unfortunately, since Polyandry is not permitted in her belief, thus she will be obligated to give up all of them and to have the honor and happiness of being single for her whole life!

What if the elder race is just a different label?

PA, thanks for the support. I can see you have an open mind to new ideas. Mark

Greetings etvisitor7,

I'm not sure which book Yelekiah was speaking of, but the word "E.din" reminds me of The Earth Chronicles series by Zecharia Sitchin. Only, I believe Zecharia said something about the "man" already existing, (they didn't use an ape) when the "guardians" decided to develop a new race using their DNA. A fascinating read, Mr. Sitchin uses scientific data, ancient texts and the bible to create a very plausible (in my opinion) explanation about the creation of the adamic race.

I have not read all of the books in "The Earth Chronicles" series, the one I am reading now is "Divine Encounters" (not part of the series).

One thing I may disagree with Mr. Zitchin on is the idenity of the Supreme Creator. But that will take much more studying on my part. Anyway, I would highly recommend Zecharia Sitchin's books.

I find it more plausible that God created everything just the way it is written in Genisis...but then...

shhhhhhhhhhh.....I am not enlightened....

Greetings joc,

I agree that a Supreme Being created everything. However, the account in Genesis depends on ones interpretation and leaves many unanswered questions. Why is there such a vast difference of opinion between the scientists and theologians as to what is the age of the earth? How does the Neanderthal man fit? Was Adam a prehistoric cave man? (if not, were the other races of man created on the sixth day and "Adam" created on the eighth day -- as some state. And who exactly were the Nephilim? These are not the only questions one might ask but just a few.

It sounds like 'Etvisitor7' is talking about the 'Annunaki' civilization.

The best support for this theory is found in the knowledge of man at that time. If Adam and Eve lived in a paradise where no work was needed for survival, then knowledge would not have been a requisite. In fact, they were denied the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

But it is apparent that early man was far more advanced than science earlier believed. There were laws and courts, music and poetry, schools and methodology, a written language, sciences and the ability to predict eclipses, surgeries and a registry of doctors, etc.

For such things to have existed, there needed to be a source of that knowledge.

Extending the thought, the Aztecs, Mayans and Toltecs were primitives until one day, suddenly, they built observatories and mapped the heavens, built pyramids and temples, extracted salt from the oceans, used an enormous amount of gold from mines that have never been discovered to date, created the perfect calendar and wrote of their hown history and beliefs.

The origin of knowledge is the ultimate question in the development of man and until we determine that, the other questions remain moot.

Not entirely true iaapac. It was a very specific knowledge, not just knowledge in general. It's a common misconception among those who have not read the Bible that the tree that they ate from was the tree of knowledge. In fact it was 'the tree of the knowledge of good and evil'. A very specific knowledge - that of disobedience to God. Prior to eating from the tree, Adam and Eve had no concept of disobedience. When they ate from the tree, they knew good and evil. It had little to nothing to do with knowledge in general.

Regards, PA

Accepted, Paranoid . . . .

But the sudden and inexplicable knowledge of man still remains a critical element to the question.

Oh Loge you knew it didn't you.

Perhaps Adam and Eve is figurative? Maybe the whole creation story about the first humans is just a human like us and not of those primitive. Perhaps we had caveman?

the whole elder race thing is interesting but i find it hard to believe especially since there is no proff of this and we share over 98-99% of our DNA with apes, so what were we decended from the planet of the ape elder beings?

We descended from primates.


Planet of the apes....

Your right check this out

I can not post what I was going to say because the Brothers out here would/might get upset.

101:
I know now I am not the only one with a twisted sense of humor.

It is always good to have a sense of humor