Interesting question. And some people need to ponder this. But then again look at my post about limestone and its properties...
Actually, the reason stone was used was because it lasts very long, withstanding time. the pyramids were meant to last forever. And lo and behold, they are still here out of the other Wonders of the World that have disintegrated.

ah, heh, I bet you kinda guessed i've never been in a pyramid. I hope to visit egypt though, sometime anyway. always interested me.
but do you not think that they could have used candles?
yet the bagdad (sp?) battery, could the egyptians have had one similar? I'm not to sure how far the bagdad (sp?) was dated back to (can anyone fill me in on that date if you know) be interesting if they did.

but then how would they have made a lightsource from it? without the aid of a bulb.

EDIT

ok, ignore that last question, i just read back. sorry >_<

Supposedly 2000 years old, and perhaps the bulb unlike the clay vase was destroyed. Or perhaps a different substance was used. I assure you candles or even oil would have been a bad and incredibly dangerous idea. As I stated before, the "tombs" are steep, at an incline. If someone had a lamp the poor soul would have likely caught himself on fire, and smoke would have shown on the ceilings as evidence of this. But there is no smoke. Now, back to the batteries. They are really simple to use. You can use vinegar or lime juice to make it work. Ancient people figured it out.

I had an earlier pic of the "light bulb" the Egyptians used in this thread. Not sure of the exact page though.

What or who ever made the pyramids obviously wanted them to last. Has anybody read "Gods of the Dawn" by Peter Lemesurier? He is the decoder of the pyramids. It goes into great detail about the geometry of the pyramids, and how it relates to earth, etc. So whoever did build the pyramids had a spectacular knowledge of the earth, and geometry, and, if Lemesurier's predictions are true, a sense of time and future events. It just all sounds too complex for ancient peoples.

By the way, has anybody else made the connection between the words Brahma, Ra-amen, and Abraham???

sorry Amen-Ra

Amun-Ra.
Don't take this the wrong way, because I like your ideas...
But why do you think people of ancient times could not understand complex ideas?
Egyptians had their own geometry. They were not dim-witted individuals.
http://www.iusb.edu/~journal/2000/zahrt.html

I'm just keeping an open mind to possible influences. You are right that mathmatics was a major influence in Egypt, but your link also says that no evidence is found during the pyramids construction. It still leaves the question open: how did they build the pyramids?

WILL WE EVER HAVE ANSWERS!!! Ahhhhh, I hate not knowing!!!!!

(PS: Not flaming, just passionate!!)

lol, I undertand. And I think one of my first posts I said that there were no heiroglyphs as to HOW they built it. But in tablets it says they made the stones "very light" and then "changed them again". That could mean anything, even changing "atomic structure".

oh wow, I never realised how they made the batteries. thats pretty interesting, and i like your theory yelekiah.

its got roots and a plausable evidence, this is pretty interesting.

ima learnd-ing (classic ralph - simpsons)

do you think that they mean the put coffins into outer coffins. because the coffins start off big, inside that theres another coffin and then the sarcoughicus (sp?) when they say it got lighter and then heavier?

And there is so much more to know about the Egyptians. It's like a glacier. We're only seeing 10%.

Even better. In the tablets, they were referring to the limestone blocks.
The sarcophagus in the Great Pyramid was made of granite.

Here's a pic of the granite "sarcophagus" in the Main Chamber of the Great Pyramid, which by the way, was not used for burial.
http://www.belovedegypt.com/34_-_Great_Pyr...sarcophagus.jpg

Ok, we can nut this one out.... how could the stones have been changed? I have also heard that the huge stone heads and balls in South America could have been moved the same way. It also goes for the Stones in Stone Henge, and any megolith for that matter - think Easter Island.

Now, some sort of technology must have been used, yet no technology has been located (??), at least not to point to how massive stone blocks could have been shifted and lifted. We have batteries, but that tiny battery could not possibly have created an electical charge to spark the correct frequency to mess with the nuclear physics of the structure, surely? So what technology could have done it? Without going into great detail, I am aware that aliens have 'light' technology. Could that mean that the stones were changed into 'light' instead of meaning weightless? We all know that the smallest 'matter' is light, or photons. Could the ancient egyptians have known that?? Or any other 'primitive' civilisation, worlds apart?

(There's a storm near my house, the power keeps going out) But the tablet they used the term "light" and "heavy"
Meaning it dealt with weight. I'll look into it though.

I use to be a heavy reader of Omni magazine and there was an article on how they ground up the stone to powder then used a chemical reaction to harden it again a chemist duplicated the process. I'll see if I can dig it up.
As for the lights I have seen pics too they were big about 5 ft tall if I remember correctly.
Finally, That the Phonecians with Egyptian and Iberian sailors traded on our shores with my people is taught at our tribal center. The works of Doctor Barry Fell is known to my tribe and his books are here in the library. We give Columbus 3rd billing.....

Lapi'che

Cool, and thank you, Piney for the info. It's always appreciated.

heh, you have quite a few storms where you live, don't you yalekiah

Unfortunately, because of the hurricanes.

I dunno . . . I am a professional civil engineer, and one of the most used materials is dirt or stone in one form or another to this very day!

Hey, Larry, could you give us a brief description of how we might build these pyramids today? What equipment would we use?

Unfortunately, most of the pyramids were near perfect, and cannot be recreated in its likeness, according to several engineers.

leaves a lot of food for thought......

Check this out. We are actually not ADVANCED enough to make our own pyramids like them. Interesting.
http://www.infinitetechnologies.co.za/arti...eatpyramid.html

See what I mean in your link about relationship with the earth? The lengths of the sides are the exact days of our year in pyramid cubits. it's almost freaky!

And it's relationship to the constellations is freakily precise!!

Oh and there's so much more than that. Those pyramids are practically perfect (with the alignment, everything). We don't have the technology to actually lift the large stones of the pyramids. Us, who are supposedly so advanced. These people were not primitive by any means.
I even believe that the Egyptians even knew about antimatter, they talk about the Zep Tepi, which means "First Time"
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn174

Joseph Davidovits, a french chemist invented a "geo" polymer in which and alkali solution and aluminum silicate was added to ground limestome. Some heat was applied and it formed a hard brick. His theory was that natron (sodium carbonate), a sacred salt of the Egyptians that was used for everything from embalming to brushing teeth was the catalyst and buckets of ground stone were carried up and poured into molds.- Omni Magazine nov .1982.
It make sense considering the blocks are so close tolerance that you can't get between them with a feeler gauge.


Lapi'che

lol, I tip my hat off to you, Piney.

Glad I still have all my Omni, National Geographic, Smithsonian, and New Jersey Outdoors from my Highschool days in file boxes in the attic........and there organized


* looks at boxes of books he must drag back up to attic*
*Pours Wild turkey into coffee cup*
*sighs*


Lapi'che

I must be missing something... how does "First Time" relate to anti-matter? Could you give us the low-down?

I've heard of its relation many years ago about the "gods" weaving in and out of the Void. I found a cheesy site that may explain it better than I can.
http://www.crystalinks.com/zeptepi.html

maybe it was an extraordinary accident

Incorrect. The Egyptians were known for their accuracy and precision throughout history. I've posted plenty of links on that. things that seemed random, were actually quite deliberate.

I did say maybe. The truth is we may never know. But it is fun to ponder... perhaps the architects wanted something balanced. They wanted something to reach to the heavens. I think it was obviously easier to do that with a pyramid rather than a square, structurally speaking and resourses.

I'm assuming you don't know that much about Egyptian history or culture. I could be wrong. But the pyramids were not created solely for the purpose of "reaching the heavens". They are much more complex than that. You have read this entire thread, correct?

no. but I'm open for learning. Are you a teacher ? Do you have definative answers or are you still learning?

Well I hope this thread can enlighten you. I'm a teacher in the sense that I teach.
And most teachers learn as they are teaching. But I don't think anyone should hasten to a conclusion that the Egyptians are primitive. If you'd like to start from page one, I give my reason why with several links.

I never thought the ancient egyptians 'were' primative. Quite the contrary. They created amazing structures and an amazing civilization of the time, or any time. But I think its a little easy to assign some extraordinary purpose or terrestrial envolvement. They were just brilliant people of those times.

Very true. So what are your thoughts on pyramids in general?

They were probably to busy playing music to leave a record of it seeing that music is through listening experience. The pyramids were their record.

I'm sorry, leave a record of how they built it? Is that what you mean?

Sorry, I'm knew to this.

That's fine. But if you'd like to start from page one of this thread, and post any of your thoughts, I would appreciate it. I love to hear other people's ideas.

Leaving a record of how they built it would give away their personal secrets. Like grandma's famous meatloaf or something. Bad comparison, but you know what I mean?

lol, actually that's a good comparison. It makes sense.

Maybe they wanted future generations to marvel at their constuction(we do). They knew the only way to find the secret of construction would be to disassemble. What a task that would be.

That last link was massive. I couldn't stop reading all the other links within it. Holy doolie, where did Graham Hancock get all that info from?? (you don't have to answer that!!)

I have heard that aliens/angels/gods can travel outside of time because of time/warp travel. Once you leave your own planetary time/space you can't get back because you are travelling through time/space to different areas within the 'void'. You are 'outside' of time/space.

Do you have an interest in string theory, Rowan?

how come you put aliens/angels/gods in the same category?