Aliens did it. Duh. Geez the human race is week. Ever heard of an anti gravity machine created by aliens? freaking morons.... *looks annoyed*

ancient egypt was an empire and would have extracted tribute from sunbjugated people's. Part of this tribute would comprise labour and that labour would most likely have been incorporated into the work gangs starting as lowly haulers and then working up thru the trades to the point where they achieved 'citizenship' and thus earned their freedom. I strongly dispute the new idea that ancient egypt didnt use slaves.

They found the camp where the workers of the pyramids lived while they built them, in the dirt the archeologists, whose names i can't remember, found fish bones, and the bones of other small creatures as well as barrels that would have been used for ale. these were not starving slaves as portrayed in charles Heston(sp) films, but were in fact well cared for servants of the pharoah, and everyone in egypt then could be considered his servants should he have need of them, and they would have considered it a great honor to build the final resting place of their living god.

no it was me I built them so I could scratch my back on them

I believe that with the help of a few primitive tools and alot of people.. the pyramids came to be.

Like someone said in another post in another topic.. the pyramid design is a relatively easy design, but it would take hundreds of thousands of people to help out. And it would considerably take many many decades. Just as we have our construction workers build a house in a certain amount of time.

I also believe that if we set our mind to it, we can achieve anything.

It's like cleaning up your room, building something, lifting stuff.. put on some music and just DO something. You know?

I'm sure we weren't that dumb thousands of years ago, we spoke and read books. Without video games and computers, I think we encriched our minds in intelligence and just worked with what we had at the time.

Well said LiQuiD_FuSioN.

Folks always seem to try to sell our ancestors short by claiming aliens had a hand in helping out. People back then knew how to do more with less.

The giants (OLMECS) at the request of the Annunakis (gods) built the pyramids. The were build as reference points from our planet to guide and help space ships navigate. :wacko:

"more with less" ah, great point as well!

i believe the Egyptians had the ability to build the Pyramids themselves, regardless of where the knowledge came from, they still built the Pyramids, themselves.

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how do you know what god is or what he has done? has he communicated his actions to you in any way? has he spoke this principle of a 'no book god to you'? The irony is what you are saying is biblical, god has made himself known to all through the creation (Romans), so that no man has excuse to disbelieve, but in order for us to be sure that this is the case he has told us in the bible. Sorry this is my opinion.

and all are entitled to their opinions. The one true god, had men write down his word, and like all things written by man they were corrupted and changed over time, how one interprets these words shows what type of person you are. to know thy god is to thyself. Just my opinion.

Who or what created the pyramids in ancient Egypt?

Presumably we are speaking specifically of the Pyramids of Giza, not just pyramids in general? The Giza pyramids - I don't know who built them, but if I was forced into giving an answer, I'd have to say a race of beings (probably much like humans) from another planet built them.

Most of the stone for the Giza pyramids was quarried on the Giza plateau itself
The Egyptian Pyramid
so didnt some the material for the pyramid come from the sphinx enclosure? I thought the sphinx was OLD

No, from what I understand the Sphinx was carved out of bedrock and it "pre-dates" the Egyptians.

The Egyptians did.


Now lets play make-believe:

I think that 20 aliens (Reticulan, of couse) with 20 eyes each built the pyramids using only their tongues.

You are not alone with that idea. The only reason we call it Khufu's pyramid is because an ancient greek tourist was told it was by an ancient egyptian tour guide. The physical evidence so far discovered that proves it IS Khufu's pyramid and was actually built by him is very dubious indeed.

One other point that I must make here concerns the alleged water erosion of the sphinx. Established archeology shoots this theory down with the answer "then how come the great pyramids dont show the same level of erosion"?

Well firstly, the great pyramids were protected by a casing of limestone. This limestone casing has been stripped away apparently by local people in need of building material.

Ha-ha! I'm not gonna tell you how I did it! If I did there would be rival pyramids springing up all over.

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Ha-ha-ha-ha!

i would have to agree with bar man. if the egyptians could build something as big and mathmatically phenomenal as the great pyramids, then how come they are such an undeveloped country today?. egyptian hyroglyphics show what gods they worshipped. have you seen what some of them look like? nothing like thor, pluto, zeus or any other so called mythical god in history. much more alien.

now thats a good question. we are told that the ancient egyptians used copper tools to carve great limestone blocks.....well limestone is quite soft and I have actually tried cutting limestone for myself with home made copper chisels and yes it is possible but only for 3 minutes when the tool edge flattens. Then you need to resharpen the tool and re-temper it.
Those masons also worked routinely with Andesite granites which simply could not be cut or carved with such copper tools. It is a physical impossibility.
I suppose ther ancient masons could have had a conveyor belt of hardened and tempered tools following them but I somehow cant see it.
Little evidence exists to support the idea that those ancient people used steel tools....but I think they did.
Dont forget that amongst the displays in the cairo museum are numerous examples of turned decorative items like vases and pots etc. On those items, many of which are of the hardest stone, are lathe tool cutting marks which can only mean they were turned in a lathe. So what evidence is there to support the simple physical fact that the ancient egyptians could manufacture accurate lathes and the tools to go with them? So far as I know, none.

Hmmm, you know there are thousands of pyramids scattered through out egypt, non of them are anything as good as the great pyramid and those around it. It is thought that those pyramids are the latest version in the Egyptian building, when they perfected it and the other smaller ones, not as well constructed are more along the lines as prototypes so to speak. But what if it was the other way around, perhaps instead of being the latest they were the earlyest and what the other lesser pyamids that were belived to be the prototypes of the Egyptians where in reality the Egyptians trying to duplicated what they saw in the great pyramid which had been there much longer than when they arrived. But who know, all in all this is just another perspective and view point.

-Mateo

you echo my own thoughts. That the great pyramids, the sphinx and many temples were there when the egyptians arrived.

I find it very interesing that most of great egyptian works have very little writting if any on them, when egyptians are said to lable everything they create. But heres a site that better clarifys and makes the perspective I just wrote clearer, with more examples and details.


http://www.atlantisquest.com/Archeology.html#pyramid

-Mateo

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Look.. think of it like this.. They took stone's and they built a pyramind.. One on top of the other, They didn't invent cell phone's, They didn't find the cure to cancer.. They took stone's and stacked them on top of each other!... It was not really as complex as people try to act like it was.... People did it all over the world, Not just in Egypt...

Or you can check out this site and see what amazing precision the Ancient Egyptians had.
http://www.infinitetechnologies.co.za/arti...eatpyramid.html

u never know......maybe it wasn't as u or textbooks explain it. they could be other possibilities on how pyramids were made...no one can ever know for sure since there is no real evidence that they stacked stones on top of each other.....they probably used really big tools or something...but where are these tools? are there any hierogliphics of pictures to show how pyramids were made?

Nope

u never know......maybe it wasn't as u or textbooks explain it. they could be other possibilities on how pyramids were made...no one can ever know for sure since there is no real evidence that they stacked stones on top of each other.....they probably used really big tools or something...but where are these tools? are there any hierogliphics of pictures to show how pyramids were made?


ROFL... They did leave records of the blue print's for these tomb's... Tool's ask anyone from egypt they can show you the tool's used, They still use the same thing's today to cut stone and do repair's.... If you are looking for information try this site..It explain's it all....



http://www.narmer.pl/indexen.htm

Where are the blueprints on that specific site for a pyramid? What hieroglyphs? Malicious asked for the glyphs on *how* they were made. That site doesn't show how they were made, so not sure what you find amusing...

Look.. think of it like this.. They took stone's and they built a pyramind.. One on top of the other, They didn't invent cell phone's, They didn't find the cure to cancer.. They took stone's and stacked them on top of each other!... It was not really as complex as people try to act like it was.... People did it all over the world, Not just in Egypt...



Hummm I think there was a littel more to it then that

This is why I said it was a diffrent perspective, just another view to see it in, just as you have had ur "what ifs" this is just another what if. And who knows maybe one of our "what ifs" is correct, but we'll probably never totally know. But in the mean time, it is defently cool to hear everyones view.

-Mateo

well yes thats what the ancient egyptians actually did - the piled a load of stones on top of each other to form a pyramid.....but then it collapsed. In fact every pyramid that the ancient egyptians built except for the complex of pyramids at Giza suffered structural failure. and therein lies the rub....

i'll say this much...so long as the primary pyramids are not restored exactly to its original condition, they shall remain just that ~ a pile of stones..

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really ? name one stone mason that uses copper chisels. Name one repository that contains the 'blue prints' for the construction of Khufu's pyramid.

There are NO hieroglyphs as to how the pyramids were built. It was so important I thought I should mention it again.

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you would think they would, right? i mean building a pyramid must be a great achievement. why wouldn't they leave some type of painting or relief showing or stating something about building one.

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That is why I believe all pyramids to be pale imitations of the Pyramids of Giza which were around long before the Egyptian civilization in my opinion.

The Egyptians chose to copy what they saw. At first they tried doing it to exact specifications, but they didn't have the technical know-how to do it. So they made them with a smaller slope.

See the bent pyramid: It starts off at the same gradient as the Giza pyramids, but halfway through construction changes so the angle is the same as other pyramids. Is it possible that the Egyptians realised that they could not emulate the work of Giza and changed their minds?

Just a thought.



Regards, PA

well thats the $64,000 question. the great pyramid was completed down to the last detail. The gold pyramideon was placed on its summit. the layers of capstones were placed to perfection and there it sat,complete, gleaming white with gold top,in the desert....but with nothing to indicate who built it or why.
The ancient egyptians didnt need to build pyramids to achieve height. They could easily have built a rectangular or square monument to an equal or greater height and with less labour and material. So why a pyramid?
perhaps they knew that the pyramid shape is very resistant to earthquake and flood if it is built on a solid base and to a particular system of construction.
The pyramids were built with an interlocking mass of stone blocks each weighing two tons and up....some blocks weigh 30 tons. The entire mass of the great pyramid weighs an estimated 6.5 million tons and consists of some 2.5 million blocks.
Interlocking? -yes but why? why didnt they just sit the stones one on top of the other thereby speeding up the construction process?
They wanted them to stand for an eternity and it looks like they will.They built them to withstand earthquakes because they had experienced earthquakes and understood their effects on conventional building designs.
But the big question is this: did those builders also understand the effects of flood ?
The pyramid shape is a perfect design to resist both earthquake and flood.The system of construction made the inner chambers airtight and thus watertight. The shape of the pyramid is particularly resistant to the pressures imposed on it by great masses of moving water because there is no one face that can pose any positive resitance....all sides are angled like the bows of a ship.
So did the ancient egyptians,if indeed they were the actual builders, remember the flood from the last ice age and build their greatest monuments to resist the floods created by the melting of the northern ice sheets?
the great pyramid sends out a lot of messages to us. It is aligned with the points of the compass. It aligns with certain star systems. It contains complex mathematical formula in its construction. But there are no markings either without or within the monument that identify its builders. Why?

The bent pyramid predates the pyramids of Giza....there were an early attempt at a later perfected building technique.


The pyramids of Egypt were built by thousands of hardworking Egyptian men and some great architects. It's possible. Don't hate on ancient Egyptians. At least not about the pyramids, those things are cool.

yes and Djoser's pyramid at Saquarra was built only 70 years before the great pyramid of khufu. According to established science. So they went from the primitive to the perfect within 70 years.....amazing

I wouldn't call it "primitive". It was more like trial and error.

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They did. More pyramids, monumentals, tablets... you name it, it was probably build in stone. They say nothing is carved in stone, but with the ancient Egyptians, that statement is false.

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Uh the egyptian's....

The pyramids were built by survivors of Atlantis.

Doesn't anybody ever wonder whatever happend to all the absolutely incredible civilizations of the ancient world??

Not just the Egyptians, but all of them.

Where did they all go? Why did they all abandon their fantastic monolithic cities? If they simply were killed or died away, where are all the remains of those millions of people, and why didn't they leave some sort of last testament explaining what happend to them? If we are the supposed decendants of these people, how come all this history and knowlege wasn't simply passed down by word of mouth over the ages and recorded in some way? Why didn't they leave us records of how they built these unprecedented (and still unmatched today) structures? Where did they all come from in the first place? How did they end up covering all points of the globe in an age that supposedly didn't even have ships capable of crossing vast oceans? How did the different races come to be, and how did they end up dominating certain particular continents/areas of the ancient world (e.g. black-africa, white-europe, yellow-asia, brown-south/central america, red-north america, etc)?

I'm not looking for any of yall to quote me biblical passages (agnostic), nor do I want an itemized scientific method response for each question. I'm simply posing some things for you to swish around in your head for a little while, regardless of what your history and science books tell you.